Competitor entry - selecting class

pjhorner · 27 June 2008 20:32

I have just loaded version 1.95 build 9 and found the class selection
in the competitor entry has changed from the earlier versions I have
used. One used to be able to type in the first few characters and then
click on the drop down list arrow and select the actual class
required. Now there is nothing in the list, except for those already
entered for other competitors, and you have to click on the file link
and scan down the file list to pick the class. This is very time
consuming compared with the old method. Not what you want when the
race officer is waiting for the list of competitors to take out on the
committee boat. Is there any configuration setting to get the class
selection to work the friendly way it used to?

ColinJenkins · 2 July 2008 08:45

hi,

I was trying to tidy things up so that the drop down lists are always
what is already in the file. However i can see your point. The counter
argument is that once all the competitors are in the file, the class
list is still huge if you use it to set up starts etc - so the new way
is better in that context…

I wil try and do somehting so bothe contexts are covered…

Regards

Colin J

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MR_PAUL_CRAIG · 3 July 2008 18:57

Colin,

I concur with pjhorner, I’ve tried using build 11 since the beginning of last weekend and its taken me a bit of extra time as we are still fairly early on in our series and so new boats are entering the series.

I also noticed that the rating isnt inserted automatically once the class is selected, instead I have to click the button next to the rating box and select the class from the list again. Also build 11 is pulling in all ratings files in the folder not just the book1.csv, was this always the case, I cant remember ?

Paul

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To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: colin@sailwave.com
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:45:21 +0100
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Competitor entry - selecting class

hi,

I was trying to tidy things up so that the drop down lists are always what is already in the file. However i can see your point. The counter argument is that once all the competitors are in the file, the class list is still huge if you use it to set up starts etc - so the new way is better in that context…

I wil try and do somehting so bothe contexts are covered…

Regards
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

pjhorner wrote:



I have just loaded version 1.95 build 9 and found the class selection in the competitor entry has changed from the earlier versions I have used. One used to be able to type in the first few characters and then click on the drop down list arrow and select the actual class required. Now there is nothing in the list, except for those already entered for other competitors, and you have to click on the file link and scan down the file list to pick the class. This is very time consuming compared with the old method. Not what you want when the race officer is waiting for the list of competitors to take out on the committee boat. Is there any configuration setting to get the class selection to work the friendly way it used to?
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Huw2 · 4 July 2008 08:30

Paul,

Yes it has been for a long time that Sailwave ‘pulls’ in all rating
files in the ratings folder. They are now more obvious as the name of
the file is listed.

Note - with Sailwave on Microsoft Vista something odd happens if you
try to move unused rating files to another location. Somehow Sailwave
on Microsoft Vista knows where they have been moved to. Colin & I
have looked at this and have not figured the exact circumstances out,
but it appears to be something with Microsoft Vista not Sailwave.

Kind regards,

Huw

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Harvey_John · 4 July 2008 08:36

Vista can be nasty.

Directories aren’t always what they appear to be and some directories are some sort of overlay/redirected directory depending on the user and the privilige settings of the application.

And what you see in a command shell can be different from what you see in windows explorer and applications can see one or other as well.

So its not always a case of what you see in one place is what a programme will see.

I’ll try to take a look and see if i can work it out.

We are gradually begining to understand the strange things Vista can do to you.

John

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Subject: Re: [sailwave] Competitor entry - selecting class

Paul,

Yes it has been for a long time that Sailwave ‘pulls’ in all rating files in the ratings folder. They are now more obvious as the name of the file is listed.

Note - with Sailwave on Microsoft Vista something odd happens if you try to move unused rating files to another location. Somehow Sailwave on Microsoft Vista knows where they have been moved to. Colin & I have looked at this and have not figured the exact circumstances out, but it appears to be something with Microsoft Vista not Sailwave.

Kind regards,
Huw

Paul Craig wrote:
Colin,
I concur with pjhorner, I've tried using build 11 since the beginning of last weekend and its taken me a bit of extra time as we are still fairly early on in our series and so new boats are entering the series.

I also noticed that the rating isnt inserted automatically once the class is selected, instead I have to click the button next to the rating box and select the class from the list again. Also build 11 is pulling in all ratings files in the folder not just the book1.csv, was this always the case, I cant remember ?
Paul

hi,

I was trying to tidy things up so that the drop down lists are *always* what is already in the file. However i can see your point.  The counter argument is that once all the competitors are in the file, the class list is still huge if you use it to set up starts etc - so the new way is better in that context...

I wil try and do somehting so bothe contexts are covered...

Regards
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

pjhorner wrote:



I have just loaded version 1.95 build 9 and found the class selection in the competitor entry has changed from the earlier versions I have used. One used to be able to type in the first few characters and then click on the drop down list arrow and select the actual class required. Now there is nothing in the list, except for those already entered for other competitors, and you have to click on the file link and scan down the file list to pick the class. This is very time consuming compared with the old method. Not what you want when the race officer is waiting for the list of competitors to take out on the committee boat. Is there any configuration setting to get the class selection to work the friendly way it used to?
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ColinJenkins · 4 July 2008 09:13

OK - I will do somehting - I stil like the idea of
KISS in that the droopdowns (by default) are always what is in teh
series - no surprised then. but i’ll add some personal global options
so that mroe experienced users can opt for hully populated lists fomr
the rating files.

cj

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colin@sailwave.com

hi,

I was trying to tidy things up so that the drop down lists are always
what is already in the file. However i can see your point. The counter
argument is that once all the competitors are in the file, the class
list is still huge if you use it to set up starts etc - so the new way
is better in that context…

I wil try and do somehting so bothe contexts are covered…

Regards

Colin J

www.sailwave.com

pjhorner wrote:



I have just loaded version 1.95 build 9 and found the class selection in the competitor entry has changed from the earlier versions I have used. One used to be able to type in the first few characters and then click on the drop down list arrow and select the actual class required. Now there is nothing in the list, except for those already entered for other competitors, and you have to click on the file link and scan down the file list to pick the class. This is very time consuming compared with the old method. Not what you want when the race officer is waiting for the list of competitors to take out on the committee boat. Is there any configuration setting to get the class selection to work the friendly way it used to?
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ColinJenkins · 4 July 2008 09:14

but the rating should be being set when you
select class - if not its a bug - it works here ok… anybore else got
that proboem?

cj

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Tony_Tucker · 4 July 2008 09:30

Colin

Yes I've noticed this. I've added my own file to the ratings folder, and previously as soon as I selected a boat type the PY appeared, now I need to click on the little Sailwave icon to get the ratings. Not a big issue, but another click.

Can I make a suggestion for competitors, which is probably a biggish change but would make life much easier. I'd like to have a competitors file with all my club members in, then when I'm using the Sail number wizard, I'd love it to look at my competitors file and automatically add the competitor if they are not already in this series. At the moment I go through the score sheet first to check all the entrants are in this series, adding any missing, then go tot he wizard to enter the time.

cheers
Tony

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At 10:14 04/07/2008, Colin Jenkins wrote:

but the rating *should* be being set when you select class - if not its a bug - it works here ok... anybore else got that proboem?
cj

Huw Pearce wrote:

Paul,

Yes it has been for a long time that Sailwave 'pulls' in all rating files in the ratings folder. They are now more obvious as the name of the file is listed.

Note - with Sailwave on Microsoft Vista something odd happens if you try to move unused rating files to another location. Somehow Sailwave on Microsoft Vista knows where they have been moved to. Colin & I have looked at this and have not figured the exact circumstances out, but it appears to be something with Microsoft Vista not Sailwave.

Kind regards,
Huw

Paul Craig wrote:

Colin,

I concur with pjhorner, I've tried using build 11 since the beginning of last weekend and its taken me a bit of extra time as we are still fairly early on in our series and so new boats are entering the series.

I also noticed that the rating isnt inserted automatically once the class is selected, instead I have to click the button next to the rating box and select the class from the list again. Also build 11 is pulling in all ratings files in the folder not just the book1.csv, was this always the case, I cant remember ?

Paul

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To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: colin@sailwave.com
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:45:21 +0100
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Competitor entry - selecting class

hi,

I was trying to tidy things up so that the drop down lists are *always* what is already in the file. However i can see your point. The counter argument is that once all the competitors are in the file, the class list is still huge if you use it to set up starts etc - so the new way is better in that context...

I wil try and do somehting so bothe contexts are covered...

Regards
Colin J
<http://www.sailwave.com/>www.sailwave.com

pjhorner wrote:

I have just loaded version 1.95 build 9 and found the class selection

in the competitor entry has changed from the earlier versions I have

used. One used to be able to type in the first few characters and then

click on the drop down list arrow and select the actual class

required. Now there is nothing in the list, except for those already

entered for other competitors, and you have to click on the file link

and scan down the file list to pick the class. This is very time

consuming compared with the old method. Not what you want when the

race officer is waiting for the list of competitors to take out on the

committee boat. Is there any configuration setting to get the class

selection to work the friendly way it used to?

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ColinJenkins · 4 July 2008 10:14

OK - ill fix it - that’s a real pain…

CJ

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Huw2 · 4 July 2008 12:09

Tony,

With the latest build of Sailwave, you can have all your club sailors
in the one file The trick is to mark unsailed competitors as hidden. When you enter a
competitor in the Sail Number Wizard they are found and the status is
changed from hidden to not hidden.
Kind regards,
Huw
Tony Tucker wrote:

···

Colin

Yes I’ve noticed this. I’ve added my own file to the ratings
folder, and previously as soon as I selected a boat type the PY
appeared, now I need to click on the little Sailwave icon to get the
ratings. Not a big issue, but another click.

Can I make a suggestion for competitors, which is probably a
biggish change but would make life much easier. I’d like to have a
competitors file with all my club members in, then when I’m using the
Sail number wizard, I’d love it to look at my competitors file and
automatically add the competitor if they are not already in this
series. At the moment I go through the score sheet first to check all
the entrants are in this series, adding any missing, then go tot he
wizard to enter the time.

cheers
Tony

At 10:14 04/07/2008, Colin Jenkins wrote:

but the rating should be being set when you select class - if not

its a bug - it works here ok… anybore else got that proboem?
cj

Huw Pearce wrote:

Paul,

Yes it has been for a long time that Sailwave ‘pulls’ in all
rating

files in the ratings folder. They are now more obvious as the
name

of the file is listed.

Note - with Sailwave on Microsoft Vista something odd happens
if

you try to move unused rating files to another location.
Somehow

Sailwave on Microsoft Vista knows where they have been moved
to.

Colin & I have looked at this and have not figured the
exact

circumstances out, but it appears to be something with
Microsoft

Vista not Sailwave.

Kind regards,
Huw

Paul Craig wrote:

Colin,

I concur with pjhorner, I’ve tried using build 11 since the

beginning of last weekend and its taken me a bit of extra
time as

we are still fairly early on in our series and so new boats
are

entering the series.

I also noticed that the rating isnt inserted automatically
once

the class is selected, instead I have to click the button
next to

the rating box and select the class from the list again.
Also

build 11 is pulling in all ratings files in the folder not
just

the book1.csv, was this always the case, I cant remember ?

Paul

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

From: colin@sailwave.com

Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:45:21 +0100

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Competitor entry - selecting class

hi,

I was trying to tidy things up so that the drop down lists
are

always what is already in the file. However i can see
your

point. The counter argument is that once all the
competitors are

in the file, the class list is still huge if you use it to
set up

starts etc - so the new way is better in that context…

I wil try and do somehting so bothe contexts are covered…

Regards

Colin J

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pjhorner wrote:

I have just loaded version 1.95 build 9 and found the class
selection

in the competitor entry has changed from the earlier
versions I have

used. One used to be able to type in the first few
characters and then

click on the drop down list arrow and select the actual
class

required. Now there is nothing in the list, except for
those already

entered for other competitors, and you have to click on the
file link

and scan down the file list to pick the class. This is very
time

consuming compared with the old method. Not what you want
when the

race officer is waiting for the list of competitors to take
out on the

committee boat. Is there any configuration setting to get
the class

selection to work the friendly way it used to?

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Tony_Tucker · 4 July 2008 12:42

Excellent Thanks Huw

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At 13:09 04/07/2008, Huw Pearce wrote:

Tony,

With the latest build of Sailwave, you can have all your club sailors in the one file

The trick is to mark unsailed competitors as hidden. When you enter a competitor in the Sail Number Wizard they are found and the status is changed from hidden to not hidden.

Kind regards,
Huw

Tony Tucker wrote:

Colin

Yes I've noticed this. I've added my own file to the ratings
folder, and previously as soon as I selected a boat type the PY
appeared, now I need to click on the little Sailwave icon to get the
ratings. Not a big issue, but another click.

Can I make a suggestion for competitors, which is probably a
biggish change but would make life much easier. I'd like to have a
competitors file with all my club members in, then when I'm using the
Sail number wizard, I'd love it to look at my competitors file and
automatically add the competitor if they are not already in this
series. At the moment I go through the score sheet first to check all
the entrants are in this series, adding any missing, then go tot he
wizard to enter the time.

cheers
Tony

At 10:14 04/07/2008, Colin Jenkins wrote:

>but the rating *should* be being set when you select class - if not
>its a bug - it works here ok... anybore else got that proboem?
>cj
>
>Huw Pearce wrote:
>>Paul,
>>
>>Yes it has been for a long time that Sailwave 'pulls' in all rating
>>files in the ratings folder. They are now more obvious as the name
>>of the file is listed.
>>
>>Note - with Sailwave on Microsoft Vista something odd happens if
>>you try to move unused rating files to another location. Somehow
>>Sailwave on Microsoft Vista knows where they have been moved to.
>>Colin & I have looked at this and have not figured the exact
>>circumstances out, but it appears to be something with Microsoft
>>Vista not Sailwave.
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>Huw
>>
>>Paul Craig wrote:
>>>
>>>Colin,
>>>
>>>I concur with pjhorner, I've tried using build 11 since the
>>>beginning of last weekend and its taken me a bit of extra time as
>>>we are still fairly early on in our series and so new boats are
>>>entering the series.
>>>
>>>I also noticed that the rating isnt inserted automatically once
>>>the class is selected, instead I have to click the button next to
>>>the rating box and select the class from the list again. Also
>>>build 11 is pulling in all ratings files in the folder not just
>>>the book1.csv, was this always the case, I cant remember ?
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>
>>>----------
>>>
>>>To: <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>sailwave@yahoogroups.com
>>>From: <mailto:colin%40sailwave.com>colin@sailwave.com
>>>Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:45:21 +0100
>>>Subject: Re: [sailwave] Competitor entry - selecting class
>>>
>>>hi,
>>>
>>>I was trying to tidy things up so that the drop down lists are
>>>*always* what is already in the file. However i can see your
>>>point. The counter argument is that once all the competitors are
>>>in the file, the class list is still huge if you use it to set up
>>>starts etc - so the new way is better in that context...
>>>
>>>I wil try and do somehting so bothe contexts are covered...
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Colin J
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>>>pjhorner wrote:
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>>>I have just loaded version 1.95 build 9 and found the class selection
>>>
>>>in the competitor entry has changed from the earlier versions I have
>>>
>>>used. One used to be able to type in the first few characters and then
>>>
>>>click on the drop down list arrow and select the actual class
>>>
>>>required. Now there is nothing in the list, except for those already
>>>
>>>entered for other competitors, and you have to click on the file link
>>>
>>>and scan down the file list to pick the class. This is very time
>>>
>>>consuming compared with the old method. Not what you want when the
>>>
>>>race officer is waiting for the list of competitors to take out on the
>>>
>>>committee boat. Is there any configuration setting to get the class
>>>
>>>selection to work the friendly way it used to?
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ColinJenkins · 17 September 2008 21:19

this is now back as it was. watch out for 1.95
build 12 announcement.

colin

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pjhorner · 19 September 2008 16:43

That's great. Thank you Colin.