1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

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Hi Colin
Prior to publishing results, I have been hiding some of the columns to reduce the width of the print
out.
(I right clicked on the title to hide the column)
Unfortunately after a column has been hidden, SW resorts the data :-/

This is particularly frustrating (especially when everyone is waiting for the results) when a print
needs running off again because I forgot to resort the data on the Ranking column :frowning:

Is it me or is it a problem with SW??

Regards
Ralph

2

Hi Ralph,

Instead of hiding and unhiding on screen, Click the columns button on the
toolbar and just mark the columns you don't weant published as such (mouse
right-click is quickest). You can see them on screen then and sort by them,
but they'll not come out on the paperwork and the sort order is retained.

Colin
www.sailwave.com

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Behalf Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:01
To: Sailwave
Subject: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

Hi Colin
Prior to publishing results, I have been hiding some of the
columns to reduce the width of the print
out.
(I right clicked on the title to hide the column)
Unfortunately after a column has been hidden, SW resorts the data :-/

This is particularly frustrating (especially when everyone is
waiting for the results) when a print
needs running off again because I forgot to resort the data on
the Ranking column :frowning:

Is it me or is it a problem with SW??

Regards
Ralph

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I thought you might say that ;-(

I seem to remember Anders or Martin complaining about having to go back & forth in the columns
window, which I agree is a bit of a pain.
I presume that you have it on your todo list somewhere so will live with it so that you can deal
with higher priority issues.

Fortunately, I don't get involved much, in processing actual results these days

Regards
Ralph

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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:05
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

Hi Ralph,

Instead of hiding and unhiding on screen, Click the columns button on the
toolbar and just mark the columns you don't weant published as such (mouse
right-click is quickest). You can see them on screen then and sort by them,
but they'll not come out on the paperwork and the sort order is retained.

Colin
www.sailwave.com

-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:01
To: Sailwave
Subject: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

Hi Colin
Prior to publishing results, I have been hiding some of the
columns to reduce the width of the print
out.
(I right clicked on the title to hide the column)
Unfortunately after a column has been hidden, SW resorts the data :-/

This is particularly frustrating (especially when everyone is
waiting for the results) when a print
needs running off again because I forgot to resort the data on
the Ranking column :frowning:

Is it me or is it a problem with SW??

Regards
Ralph

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Hi Ralph,

Once they're turned off for printing can't you leave them off - or do you
mean you have to go back and turn them on for another printing context?

If so, yes one day the publishing stuff will get more generalised to include
presetn columns to publish in that context, this is a stage 1.

CJ

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-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:23
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

I thought you might say that ;-(

I seem to remember Anders or Martin complaining about having to
go back & forth in the columns
window, which I agree is a bit of a pain.
I presume that you have it on your todo list somewhere so will
live with it so that you can deal
with higher priority issues.

Fortunately, I don't get involved much, in processing actual
results these days

Regards
Ralph

-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:05
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

Hi Ralph,

Instead of hiding and unhiding on screen, Click the columns button on the
toolbar and just mark the columns you don't weant published as such (mouse
right-click is quickest). You can see them on screen then and
sort by them,
but they'll not come out on the paperwork and the sort order is retained.

Colin
www.sailwave.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
> Behalf Of Ralph Tingle
> Sent: 11 October 2005 10:01
> To: Sailwave
> Subject: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)
>
>
> Hi Colin
> Prior to publishing results, I have been hiding some of the
> columns to reduce the width of the print
> out.
> (I right clicked on the title to hide the column)
> Unfortunately after a column has been hidden, SW resorts the data :-/
>
> This is particularly frustrating (especially when everyone is
> waiting for the results) when a print
> needs running off again because I forgot to resort the data on
> the Ranking column :frowning:
>
> Is it me or is it a problem with SW??
>
>
> Regards
> Ralph
>
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For future development:

SW columns can be used for many types of data, especially where prizes are involved or group info
is needed to set starts/score by etc etc. But not all, these need to be printed every time

This weekend's event (Symmetric Grand Prix) has a policy that the majority of the prizes (for which
there are many) go to boats that are not winners.
We had categories re age range groups, Super Spar mast or not, SGP 'Virgins' as well as the normal
class, male/female, club etc. each set up in their own columns

A race or regatta print with all this info was very helpful for the people giving out prizes,
especially if the individual was not there, in which case it went to the next on the list
Printing regatta results however, just needs race results to keep the sheets simple & font size
reasonable.

The outcome is that there are various occasions when the print needs to be to a certain
pre-determined format.
I presume that templates could do this, but that is for the 'Techies' :wink:

The latest scoring system principles where you set up various scoring systems for the regatta could
be equally applied to print layouts.
Perhaps more than one publish column in the edit columns window?
Then when publishing we just select the relevant publish column in destination options??

Just a thought!

Regards
Ralph

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-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:46
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

Hi Ralph,

Once they're turned off for printing can't you leave them off - or do you
mean you have to go back and turn them on for another printing context?

If so, yes one day the publishing stuff will get more generalised to include
presetn columns to publish in that context, this is a stage 1.

CJ

-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:23
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

I thought you might say that ;-(

I seem to remember Anders or Martin complaining about having to
go back & forth in the columns
window, which I agree is a bit of a pain.
I presume that you have it on your todo list somewhere so will
live with it so that you can deal
with higher priority issues.

Fortunately, I don't get involved much, in processing actual
results these days

Regards
Ralph

-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:05
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

Hi Ralph,

Instead of hiding and unhiding on screen, Click the columns button on the
toolbar and just mark the columns you don't weant published as such (mouse
right-click is quickest). You can see them on screen then and
sort by them,
but they'll not come out on the paperwork and the sort order is retained.

Colin
www.sailwave.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
> Behalf Of Ralph Tingle
> Sent: 11 October 2005 10:01
> To: Sailwave
> Subject: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)
>
>
> Hi Colin
> Prior to publishing results, I have been hiding some of the
> columns to reduce the width of the print
> out.
> (I right clicked on the title to hide the column)
> Unfortunately after a column has been hidden, SW resorts the data :-/
>
> This is particularly frustrating (especially when everyone is
> waiting for the results) when a print
> needs running off again because I forgot to resort the data on
> the Ranking column :frowning:
>
> Is it me or is it a problem with SW??
>
>
> Regards
> Ralph
>
>
>
>
>
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Yes, they need to be turned back on again.
Probably when others pick this thread up, they will identify other circumstances when turning off &
on is necessary

Regards
Ralph

···

-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:46
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

Hi Ralph,

Once they're turned off for printing can't you leave them off - or do you
mean you have to go back and turn them on for another printing context?

If so, yes one day the publishing stuff will get more generalised to include
presetn columns to publish in that context, this is a stage 1.

CJ

-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:23
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

I thought you might say that ;-(

I seem to remember Anders or Martin complaining about having to
go back & forth in the columns
window, which I agree is a bit of a pain.
I presume that you have it on your todo list somewhere so will
live with it so that you can deal
with higher priority issues.

Fortunately, I don't get involved much, in processing actual
results these days

Regards
Ralph

-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:05
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

Hi Ralph,

Instead of hiding and unhiding on screen, Click the columns button on the
toolbar and just mark the columns you don't weant published as such (mouse
right-click is quickest). You can see them on screen then and
sort by them,
but they'll not come out on the paperwork and the sort order is retained.

Colin
www.sailwave.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
> Behalf Of Ralph Tingle
> Sent: 11 October 2005 10:01
> To: Sailwave
> Subject: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)
>
>
> Hi Colin
> Prior to publishing results, I have been hiding some of the
> columns to reduce the width of the print
> out.
> (I right clicked on the title to hide the column)
> Unfortunately after a column has been hidden, SW resorts the data :-/
>
> This is particularly frustrating (especially when everyone is
> waiting for the results) when a print
> needs running off again because I forgot to resort the data on
> the Ranking column :frowning:
>
> Is it me or is it a problem with SW??
>
>
> Regards
> Ralph
>
>
>
>
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Hi, Colin & Ralph!

Ralph is right re I’ve been “complaining”… Ralph is also right about the need to turn on/off.

The way to turn on/off today, in the columns button on the
toolbar works quite good as a “Stage one” solution. It’s a “pain in the ass” when I have to click two times; one for hiding on screen, and one for hiding on print. I’ve earlier suggested a Checkbox (tick off) for each, so just one click is enough. Colin said that dev.software didn’t handle that too good, so I’ll be waiting for next releas of Clarion…

Anyway, the way of moving up/down coloumns is good. All in all, it’s not bad!

The sailing season on the northern hemishphere migth bee over soon…? We’re having the last regattas next weekend, for both “my” classes: 29er & Zoom8. Looking forward to a little more quiet time, and planning next year!

regards,

Martin

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----- Original Message -----

From:
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To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:39 PM

Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

`Yes, they need to be turned back on again.
Probably when others pick this thread up, they will identify other circumstances when turning off &
on is necessary

Regards
Ralph

-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:46
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

Hi Ralph,

Once they’re turned off for printing can’t you leave them off - or do you
mean you have to go back and turn them on for another printing context?

If so, yes one day the publishing stuff will get more generalised to include
presetn columns to publish in that context, this is a stage 1.

CJ

-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:23
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

I thought you might say that ;-(

I seem to remember Anders or Martin complaining about having to
go back & forth in the columns
window, which I agree is a bit of a pain.
I presume that you have it on your todo list somewhere so will
live with it so that you can deal
with higher priority issues.

Fortunately, I don’t get involved much, in processing actual
results these days

Regards
Ralph

-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:05
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

Hi Ralph,

Instead of hiding and unhiding on screen, Click the columns button on the
toolbar and just mark the columns you don’t weant published as such (mouse
right-click is quickest). You can see them on screen then and
sort by them,
but they’ll not come out on the paperwork and the sort order is retained.

Colin
www.sailwave.com

-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 11 October 2005 10:01
To: Sailwave
Subject: [sailwave] 1.87 Hiding Columns & Resort (bug?)

Hi Colin
Prior to publishing results, I have been hiding some of the
columns to reduce the width of the print
out.
(I right clicked on the title to hide the column)
Unfortunately after a column has been hidden, SW resorts the data :-/

This is particularly frustrating (especially when everyone is
waiting for the results) when a print
needs running off again because I forgot to resort the data on
the Ranking column :frowning:

Is it me or is it a problem with SW??

Regards
Ralph

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