Adjusting handicaps to make results more equitable

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Hi Jon,

Thanks for your quick reply. I am ok with changing the ratings as you indicated.

Our PRO asked: “Can you use Sailwave to adjust the handicaps for boats who completed 12 races to make them more equitable? Let me know”

We have a series that runs from May - October and we use the 12 best races (of up to 20 or so ) of the series to score the series. Some boats are consistently way out front.

The intent is to adjust handicaps one-time for the upcoming series in an attempt to better ‘level’ the playing field.

Can we use the BCR info to facilitate this?

I looked at the info regarding NHC. Hmmm, lot of stuff.

Do you recommend we go the NHC route?

Thanks,

Michael

2

Hi Michael,

NHC in its standard form is a progressive / personal handicap originally developed for cruisers and it adjusts automatically after each race. However the implementation within Sailwave allows you to customise it to perform however you wish. Having said that it is a bit of an overkill for what you say you would like to do.

You could use the BCR’s from the series and average them - you may want to normalise them back so that the average of the new ratings is the same as the average of the original ratings. There are many methods of determining a new rating - some of the members of the forum have a lot of experience in this and I’m sure some of them will be happy to advise you.

Jon

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On 19 December 2013 14:23, Michael Dobrzensky msdobrzensky@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi Jon,

Thanks for your quick reply. I am ok with changing the ratings as you indicated.

Our PRO asked: “Can you use Sailwave to adjust the handicaps for boats who completed 12 races to make them more equitable? Let me know”

We have a series that runs from May - October and we use the 12 best races (of up to 20 or so ) of the series to score the series. Some boats are consistently way out front.

The intent is to adjust handicaps one-time for the upcoming series in an attempt to better ‘level’ the playing field.

Can we use the BCR info to facilitate this?

I looked at the info regarding NHC. Hmmm, lot of stuff.

Do you recommend we go the NHC route?

Thanks,

Michael

3

Jon

I was looking at the Laser Masters Worlds 2013 results page:

http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm

I noticed it was using Sailwave 2.13.3 - is this available?

It also contained the “Prizes” information for the regatta. Is this feature available in the current beta (2.12.3) ?

Please can you confirm that Sailwave “saves” the “Setup” values in the Registry on the local computer.

Regards

Pete

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Hi Pete,

The latest official release of Sailwave is 2.9.7 but there is a

newer beta release 2.12.3 available as you are aware. The release
being used at the Laser Masters is the latest development release
that has been made available for testing to a few people. The main
reason for using it at the Laser Masters was it has additional
functionality available for checking ISAF Sailor ID’s and the
various Laser World Championships were good testing grounds with
someone doing the scoringwith a good understanding of the software
and that it might still have issues.

I anticipate the next official release of Sailwave to be in

February/March time frame and include the revised RYA NHC handicap
calculations. It might also include some other functionality that
has been discussed - the capability to specify which races in a
Sailwave to use to produce a set of series results from.

Sailwave has Prizes functionality available in version 2.9.7 but the

utility, Sailwave Prizes produced by Jon Eskdale provides
additional flexibility and can be downloaded from
Kind regards,
Huw

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wrote:

Jon

                          I was looking at the

Laser Masters Worlds 2013 results page:

          [http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm](http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm)

                          I noticed it was using

Sailwave 2.13.3 - is this available?

                          It also contained the

“Prizes” information for the regatta. Is this feature
available in the current beta (2.12.3) ?

                          Please can you confirm

that Sailwave “saves” the “Setup” values in the Registry
on the local computer.

          Regards

          Pete


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Huw,

If a future release of Sailwave can verify ISAF IDs will it also be able to verify the competitors current ISAF Sailor Classification. This would be a useful facility.

Gordon

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On 01/01/2014 17:14, Huw Pearce wrote:

Hi Pete,

The latest official release of Sailwave is 2.9.7 but there is a newer beta release 2.12.3 available as you are aware. The release being used at the Laser Masters is the latest development release that has been made available for testing to a few people. The main reason for using it at the Laser Masters was it has additional functionality available for checking ISAF Sailor ID's and the various Laser World Championships were good testing grounds with someone doing the scoringwith a good understanding of the software and that it might still have issues.

I anticipate the next official release of Sailwave to be in February/March time frame and include the revised RYA NHC handicap calculations. It might also include some other functionality that has been discussed - the capability to specify which races in a Sailwave to use to produce a set of series results from.

Sailwave has Prizes functionality available in version 2.9.7 but the utility, Sailwave Prizes produced by Jon Eskdale provides additional flexibility and can be downloaded from https://sites.google.com/site/eskdalesite/

Kind regards,
Huw

On 30/12/2013 13:38, Pete J Scrutton wrote:

Jon

I was looking at the Laser Masters Worlds 2013 results page:

http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm

I noticed it was using Sailwave 2.13.3 - is this available?

It also contained the "Prizes" information for the regatta. Is this feature available in the current beta (2.12.3) ?

Please can you confirm that Sailwave "saves" the "Setup" values in the Registry on the local computer.

Regards

Pete

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Gordon,

Currently it is only for checking ISAF Sailor ID's but Jon may be

able to extend for classification. The work on Sailor ID’s is so
events which have to send results to ISAF can do so easily and if
Sailor ID’s are not correct the upload fails.

Hopefully Jon will answer more fully.

I would be interested to know why classification info would be

useful as I have not needed it.

Kind regards,
Huw
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Huw,

          If a future release of Sailwave can verify ISAF IDs will

it also be able to verify the competitors current ISAF
Sailor Classification. This would be a useful facility.

          Gordon

          On 01/01/2014 17:14, Huw Pearce wrote:

Hi Pete,

              The latest official release of Sailwave is 2.9.7 but

there is a newer beta release 2.12.3 available as you
are aware. The release being used at the Laser Masters
is the latest development release that has been made
available for testing to a few people. The main reason
for using it at the Laser Masters was it has
additional functionality available for checking ISAF
Sailor ID’s and the various Laser World Championships
were good testing grounds with someone doing the
scoringwith a good understanding of the software and
that it might still have issues.

              I anticipate the next official release of Sailwave to

be in February/March time frame and include the
revised RYA NHC handicap calculations. It might also
include some other functionality that has been
discussed - the capability to specify which races in a
Sailwave to use to produce a set of series results
from.

              Sailwave has Prizes functionality available in version

2.9.7 but the utility, Sailwave Prizes produced by
Jon Eskdale provides additional flexibility and can be
downloaded from Kind regards,
Huw

https://sites.google.com/site/eskdalesite/

              On 30/12/2013 13:38, Pete J

Scrutton wrote:

Jon

                                          I was looking at

the Laser Masters Worlds 2013 results page:

                  [http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm](http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm)

                                          I noticed it was

using Sailwave 2.13.3 - is this available?

                                          It also contained

the “Prizes” information for the regatta. Is
this feature available in the current beta
(2.12.3) ?

                                          Please can you

confirm that Sailwave “saves” the “Setup” values
in the Registry on the local computer.

                  Regards

                  Pete


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This might explain why, when I got results from a recent regatta, Helm Names were linked to ISAF. Problem is that the font changes and doesn't print clearly.

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

···

On 2014/01/01 19:14, Huw Pearce wrote:

Hi Pete,

The latest official release of Sailwave is 2.9.7 but there is a newer beta release 2.12.3 available as you are aware. The release being used at the Laser Masters is the latest development release that has been made available for testing to a few people. The main reason for using it at the Laser Masters was it has additional functionality available for checking ISAF Sailor ID's and the various Laser World Championships were good testing grounds with someone doing the scoringwith a good understanding of the software and that it might still have issues.

I anticipate the next official release of Sailwave to be in February/March time frame and include the revised RYA NHC handicap calculations. It might also include some other functionality that has been discussed - the capability to specify which races in a Sailwave to use to produce a set of series results from.

Sailwave has Prizes functionality available in version 2.9.7 but the utility, Sailwave Prizes produced by Jon Eskdale provides additional flexibility and can be downloaded from https://sites.google.com/site/eskdalesite/

Kind regards,
Huw

On 30/12/2013 13:38, Pete J Scrutton wrote:

Jon

I was looking at the Laser Masters Worlds 2013 results page:

http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm

I noticed it was using Sailwave 2.13.3 - is this available?

It also contained the "Prizes" information for the regatta. Is this feature available in the current beta (2.12.3) ?

Please can you confirm that Sailwave "saves" the "Setup" values in the Registry on the local computer.

Regards

Pete

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Hi Malcolm,

Happy New Year (Blwyddyn Newydd Dda). Sorry to hear you have had

problems.

Could expand on '*Problem is that font changes*...', please?

Kind regards,
Huw
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          This might explain why, when I

got results from a recent regatta, Helm Names were linked
to ISAF. Problem is that the font changes and doesn’t
print clearly.

          On 2014/01/01 19:14, Huw Pearce wrote:

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

Hi Pete,

              The latest official release of Sailwave is 2.9.7 but

there is a newer beta release 2.12.3 available as you
are aware. The release being used at the Laser Masters
is the latest development release that has been made
available for testing to a few people. The main reason
for using it at the Laser Masters was it has
additional functionality available for checking ISAF
Sailor ID’s and the various Laser World Championships
were good testing grounds with someone doing the
scoringwith a good understanding of the software and
that it might still have issues.

              I anticipate the next official release of Sailwave to

be in February/March time frame and include the
revised RYA NHC handicap calculations. It might also
include some other functionality that has been
discussed - the capability to specify which races in a
Sailwave to use to produce a set of series results
from.

              Sailwave has Prizes functionality available in version

2.9.7 but the utility, Sailwave Prizes produced by
Jon Eskdale provides additional flexibility and can be
downloaded from Kind regards,
Huw

https://sites.google.com/site/eskdalesite/

              On 30/12/2013 13:38, Pete J

Scrutton wrote:

Jon

                                          I was looking at

the Laser Masters Worlds 2013 results page:

                  [http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm](http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm)

                                          I noticed it was

using Sailwave 2.13.3 - is this available?

                                          It also contained

the “Prizes” information for the regatta. Is
this feature available in the current beta
(2.12.3) ?

                                          Please can you

confirm that Sailwave “saves” the “Setup” values
in the Registry on the local computer.

                  Regards

                  Pete


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I have a major championship for off shores in Ireland which use classification for the crews.

We had a complaint that some boats had wrongly classified crew numbers and this may have assisted to check at and before the regatta.

Mike Butterfield

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On 01/01/2014 17:37, Gordon Davies
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Huw,

          If a future release of Sailwave can verify ISAF IDs will

it also be able to verify the competitors current ISAF
Sailor Classification. This would be a useful facility.

          Gordon

          On 01/01/2014 17:14, Huw Pearce wrote:

Hi Pete,

              The latest official release of Sailwave is 2.9.7 but

there is a newer beta release 2.12.3 available as you
are aware. The release being used at the Laser Masters
is the latest development release that has been made
available for testing to a few people. The main reason
for using it at the Laser Masters was it has
additional functionality available for checking ISAF
Sailor ID’s and the various Laser World Championships
were good testing grounds with someone doing the
scoringwith a good understanding of the software and
that it might still have issues.

              I anticipate the next official release of Sailwave to

be in February/March time frame and include the
revised RYA NHC handicap calculations. It might also
include some other functionality that has been
discussed - the capability to specify which races in a
Sailwave to use to produce a set of series results
from.

              Sailwave has Prizes functionality available in version

2.9.7 but the utility, Sailwave Prizes produced by
Jon Eskdale provides additional flexibility and can be
downloaded from Kind regards,
Huw

https://sites.google.com/site/eskdalesite/

              On 30/12/2013 13:38, Pete J

Scrutton wrote:

Jon

                                          I was looking at

the Laser Masters Worlds 2013 results page:

                  [http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm](http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm)

                                          I noticed it was

using Sailwave 2.13.3 - is this available?

                                          It also contained

the “Prizes” information for the regatta. Is
this feature available in the current beta
(2.12.3) ?

                                          Please can you

confirm that Sailwave “saves” the “Setup” values
in the Registry on the local computer.

                  Regards

                  Pete


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Thank you Mike for explaining why a Classification check might be useful. Of more use for big boat regattas with restrictions on professional sailors.

Gordon

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On 01/01/2014 19:04, Patricia Butterfield wrote:

I have a major championship for off shores in Ireland which use classification for the crews.

We had a complaint that some boats had wrongly classified crew numbers and this may have assisted to check at and before the regatta.

Mike Butterfield

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On 1 Jan 2014, at 17:52, "Huw Pearce" <huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk > <mailto:huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk>> wrote:

Gordon,

Currently it is only for checking ISAF Sailor ID's but Jon may be able to extend for classification. The work on Sailor ID's is so events which have to send results to ISAF can do so easily and if Sailor ID's are not correct the upload fails.

Hopefully Jon will answer more fully.

I would be interested to know why classification info would be useful as I have not needed it.

Kind regards,
Huw

On 01/01/2014 17:37, Gordon Davies wrote:

Huw,

If a future release of Sailwave can verify ISAF IDs will it also be able to verify the competitors current ISAF Sailor Classification. This would be a useful facility.

Gordon

On 01/01/2014 17:14, Huw Pearce wrote:

Hi Pete,

The latest official release of Sailwave is 2.9.7 but there is a newer beta release 2.12.3 available as you are aware. The release being used at the Laser Masters is the latest development release that has been made available for testing to a few people. The main reason for using it at the Laser Masters was it has additional functionality available for checking ISAF Sailor ID's and the various Laser World Championships were good testing grounds with someone doing the scoringwith a good understanding of the software and that it might still have issues.

I anticipate the next official release of Sailwave to be in February/March time frame and include the revised RYA NHC handicap calculations. It might also include some other functionality that has been discussed - the capability to specify which races in a Sailwave to use to produce a set of series results from.

Sailwave has Prizes functionality available in version 2.9.7 but the utility, Sailwave Prizes produced by Jon Eskdale provides additional flexibility and can be downloaded from https://sites.google.com/site/eskdalesite/

Kind regards,
Huw

On 30/12/2013 13:38, Pete J Scrutton wrote:

Jon

I was looking at the Laser Masters Worlds 2013 results page:

http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm

I noticed it was using Sailwave 2.13.3 - is this available?

It also contained the "Prizes" information for the regatta. Is this feature available in the current beta (2.12.3) ?

Please can you confirm that Sailwave "saves" the "Setup" values in the Registry on the local computer.

Regards

Pete

Holiday booked:
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Huw,

Best wishes for the New Year from South Africa.

See http://www.laser.org.za/Results/SASEC2013Laser.htm

I still intend to put that file thru' a html editor to remove the links.

Its probably as the results were started in the new SW version, then I opened it with my 2.9.7. Problem will resolve itself once I upgrade.

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

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On 2014/01/01 20:18, Huw Pearce wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

Happy New Year (Blwyddyn Newydd Dda). Sorry to hear you have had problems.

Could expand on '/Problem is that font changes/...', please?

Kind regards,
Huw

On 01/01/2014 18:06, Malcolm Osborne wrote:

This might explain why, when I got results from a recent regatta, Helm Names were linked to ISAF. Problem is that the font changes and doesn't print clearly.
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
On 2014/01/01 19:14, Huw Pearce wrote:

Hi Pete,

The latest official release of Sailwave is 2.9.7 but there is a newer beta release 2.12.3 available as you are aware. The release being used at the Laser Masters is the latest development release that has been made available for testing to a few people. The main reason for using it at the Laser Masters was it has additional functionality available for checking ISAF Sailor ID's and the various Laser World Championships were good testing grounds with someone doing the scoringwith a good understanding of the software and that it might still have issues.

I anticipate the next official release of Sailwave to be in February/March time frame and include the revised RYA NHC handicap calculations. It might also include some other functionality that has been discussed - the capability to specify which races in a Sailwave to use to produce a set of series results from.

Sailwave has Prizes functionality available in version 2.9.7 but the utility, Sailwave Prizes produced by Jon Eskdale provides additional flexibility and can be downloaded from https://sites.google.com/site/eskdalesite/

Kind regards,
Huw

On 30/12/2013 13:38, Pete J Scrutton wrote:

Jon

I was looking at the Laser Masters Worlds 2013 results page:

http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm

I noticed it was using Sailwave 2.13.3 - is this available?

It also contained the "Prizes" information for the regatta. Is this feature available in the current beta (2.12.3) ?

Please can you confirm that Sailwave "saves" the "Setup" values in the Registry on the local computer.

Regards

Pete

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Malcolm,

You should not need to put file through html editor to remove links,

just switch the option to publish links off and republish results.

Select '*Series properties*' and  then the '*Publishing*    '

tab and untick 'Publish ISAF Sailor IDs as hyperlinks ’ and
the the ISAF id if published and the Helm name should not have
hyperlinks any more.

Kind regards,
Huw
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Huw,

          Best wishes for the New Year from South Africa.

          See [http://www.laser.org.za/Results/SASEC2013Laser.htm](http://www.laser.org.za/Results/SASEC2013Laser.htm)

          I still intend to put that file thru' a html editor to

remove the links.

          Its probably as the results were started in the new SW

version, then I opened it with my 2.9.7. Problem will
resolve itself once I upgrade.

          On 2014/01/01 20:18, Huw Pearce wrote:

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

Hi Malcolm,

              Happy New Year (Blwyddyn Newydd Dda). Sorry to hear

you have had problems.

              Could expand on '*Problem is that font changes*
              ...',

please?

              Kind regards,
              Huw

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                  This might explain why,

when I got results from a recent regatta, Helm
Names were linked to ISAF. Problem is that the
font changes and doesn’t print clearly.

                  On 2014/01/01 19:14, Huw Pearce wrote:

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

Hi Pete,

                      The latest official release of Sailwave is

2.9.7 but there is a newer beta release 2.12.3
available as you are aware. The release being
used at the Laser Masters is the latest
development release that has been made
available for testing to a few people. The
main reason for using it at the Laser Masters
was it has additional functionality available
for checking ISAF Sailor ID’s and the various
Laser World Championships were good testing
grounds with someone doing the scoringwith a
good understanding of the software and that it
might still have issues.

                      I anticipate the next official release of

Sailwave to be in February/March time frame
and include the revised RYA NHC handicap
calculations. It might also include some other
functionality that has been discussed - the
capability to specify which races in a
Sailwave to use to produce a set of series
results from.

                      Sailwave has Prizes functionality available in

version 2.9.7 but the utility, Sailwave
Prizes produced by Jon Eskdale provides
additional flexibility and can be downloaded
from Kind regards,
Huw

https://sites.google.com/site/eskdalesite/

                      On 30/12/2013

13:38, Pete J Scrutton wrote:

Jon

                                                          I was

looking at the Laser Masters Worlds 2013
results page:

                          [http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm](http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm)

                                                          I noticed

it was using Sailwave 2.13.3 - is this
available?

                                                          It also

contained the “Prizes” information for
the regatta. Is this feature available
in the current beta (2.12.3) ?

                                                          Please

can you confirm that Sailwave “saves”
the “Setup” values in the Registry on
the local computer.

                          Regards

                          Pete


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Happy New Year to Everyone - back from my Cornwall Christmas break

Huw is correct in that if you don’t want the hyperlinks published then do as he suggests although it is nice to have the hyperlinks there.

The reason they are hard to read in your case is because of the custom CSS you are using. If you modify you custom CSS you can change the colour and hence make it easy to read.

The very last line here will change the colour of the hyperlinks - so choose a colour that is readable such as shown below

.caption {color: navy; text-align: center; padding: 3px; font-weight: bold;}
h1 {font-size: 1.8em; color:red;}
h2 {font-size: 1.6em; color:blue;}
h3 {font-size: 1.2em; color: #000066;}
p {text-align: center;}
th {background-color: #0055aa; color: #ffffff;}
a {color: #0000ff;}

Hope this helps

Jon

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On 3 January 2014 10:26, Huw Pearce huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk wrote:

Malcolm,

You should not need to put file through html editor to remove links,

just switch the option to publish links off and republish results.

Select '*Series properties*' and  then the '*Publishing*    '

tab and untick 'Publish ISAF Sailor IDs as hyperlinks ’ and
the the ISAF id if published and the Helm name should not have
hyperlinks any more.

Kind regards,
Huw

  On 01/01/2014 22:39, Malcolm Osborne

wrote:

Huw,

          Best wishes for the New Year from South Africa.



          See [http://www.laser.org.za/Results/SASEC2013Laser.htm](http://www.laser.org.za/Results/SASEC2013Laser.htm)



          I still intend to put that file thru' a html editor to

remove the links.

          Its probably as the results were started in the new SW

version, then I opened it with my 2.9.7. Problem will
resolve itself once I upgrade.

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2014/01/01 20:18, Huw Pearce wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

              Happy New Year (Blwyddyn Newydd Dda). Sorry to hear

you have had problems.

              Could expand on '*Problem is that font changes*
              ...',

please?

              Kind regards,
              Huw

              On 01/01/2014 18:06,

Malcolm Osborne wrote:

                  This might explain why,

when I got results from a recent regatta, Helm
Names were linked to ISAF. Problem is that the
font changes and doesn’t print clearly.

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2014/01/01 19:14, Huw Pearce wrote:

Hi Pete,

                      The latest official release of Sailwave is

2.9.7 but there is a newer beta release 2.12.3
available as you are aware. The release being
used at the Laser Masters is the latest
development release that has been made
available for testing to a few people. The
main reason for using it at the Laser Masters
was it has additional functionality available
for checking ISAF Sailor ID’s and the various
Laser World Championships were good testing
grounds with someone doing the scoringwith a
good understanding of the software and that it
might still have issues.

                      I anticipate the next official release of

Sailwave to be in February/March time frame
and include the revised RYA NHC handicap
calculations. It might also include some other
functionality that has been discussed - the
capability to specify which races in a
Sailwave to use to produce a set of series
results from.

                      Sailwave has Prizes functionality available in

version 2.9.7 but the utility, Sailwave
Prizes produced by Jon Eskdale provides
additional flexibility and can be downloaded
from https://sites.google.com/site/eskdalesite/

                      Kind regards,
                      Huw

                      On 30/12/2013

13:38, Pete J Scrutton wrote:

Jon

                                                          I was

looking at the Laser Masters Worlds 2013
results page:

                          [http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm](http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm)

                                                          I noticed

it was using Sailwave 2.13.3 - is this
available?

                                                          It also

contained the “Prizes” information for
the regatta. Is this feature available
in the current beta (2.12.3) ?

                                                          Please

can you confirm that Sailwave “saves”
the “Setup” values in the Registry on
the local computer.

                          Regards

                          Pete


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                            19-24 Feb



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Thanks Huw and Jon for the responses.

"it is nice to have the hyperlinks there" - not in this case, as most of our sailors aren't registered with ISAF, and the links pointed to DOB, i.s.o. ISAF ID, for some reason.

I did try the change to the CSS - does improve the legibility.

I tried Huw's suggestion, but it didn't work, probably due to the 2.9.7 / 2.12.3 incompatibility, back to html editor!

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

···

On 2014/01/03 13:24, Jon Eskdale wrote:

Happy New Year to Everyone - back from my Cornwall Christmas break

Huw is correct in that if you don't want the hyperlinks published then do as he suggests although it is nice to have the hyperlinks there.

The reason they are hard to read in your case is because of the custom CSS you are using. If you modify you custom CSS you can change the colour and hence make it easy to read.

The very last line here will change the colour of the hyperlinks - so choose a colour that is readable such as shown below

.caption {color: navy; text-align: center; padding: 3px; font-weight: bold;} h1 {font-size: 1.8em; color:red;} h2 {font-size: 1.6em; color:blue;} h3 {font-size: 1.2em; color: #000066;} p {text-align: center;} th {background-color: #0055aa; color: #ffffff;} a {color: #0000ff;}

Hope this helps

Jon

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03333 443377
07976 709777

On 3 January 2014 10:26, Huw Pearce <huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk > <mailto:huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk>> wrote:

    Malcolm,

    You should not need to put file through html editor to remove
    links, just switch the option to publish links off and republish
    results.

    Select '/Series properties/' and then the '/Publishing/' tab and
    untick '/Publish ISAF Sailor IDs as hyperlinks/' and the the ISAF
    id if published and the Helm name should not have hyperlinks any more.

    Kind regards,
    Huw

    On 01/01/2014 22:39, Malcolm Osborne wrote:

    Huw,

    Best wishes for the New Year from South Africa.

    See http://www.laser.org.za/Results/SASEC2013Laser.htm

    I still intend to put that file thru' a html editor to remove the
    links.

    Its probably as the results were started in the new SW version,
    then I opened it with my 2.9.7. Problem will resolve itself once
    I upgrade.
    regards,
    Malcolm Osborne
    Sedgefield South Africa
    On 2014/01/01 20:18, Huw Pearce wrote:

    Hi Malcolm,

    Happy New Year (Blwyddyn Newydd Dda). Sorry to hear you have had
    problems.

    Could expand on '/Problem is that font changes/...', please?

    Kind regards,
    Huw

    On 01/01/2014 18:06, Malcolm Osborne wrote:

    This might explain why, when I got results from a recent
    regatta, Helm Names were linked to ISAF. Problem is that the
    font changes and doesn't print clearly.
    regards,
    Malcolm Osborne
    Sedgefield South Africa
    On 2014/01/01 19:14, Huw Pearce wrote:

    Hi Pete,

    The latest official release of Sailwave is 2.9.7 but there is
    a newer beta release 2.12.3 available as you are aware. The
    release being used at the Laser Masters is the latest
    development release that has been made available for testing
    to a few people. The main reason for using it at the Laser
    Masters was it has additional functionality available for
    checking ISAF Sailor ID's and the various Laser World
    Championships were good testing grounds with someone doing the
    scoringwith a good understanding of the software and that it
    might still have issues.

    I anticipate the next official release of Sailwave to be in
    February/March time frame and include the revised RYA NHC
    handicap calculations. It might also include some other
    functionality that has been discussed - the capability to
    specify which races in a Sailwave to use to produce a set of
    series results from.

    Sailwave has Prizes functionality available in version 2.9.7
    but the utility, Sailwave Prizes produced by Jon Eskdale
    provides additional flexibility and can be downloaded from
    https://sites.google.com/site/eskdalesite/

    Kind regards,
    Huw

    On 30/12/2013 13:38, Pete J Scrutton wrote:

    Jon

    I was looking at the Laser Masters Worlds 2013 results page:

    http://jpvm.org/results/2013/Laser_Masters_Worlds/Results.htm

    I noticed it was using Sailwave 2.13.3 - is this available?

    It also contained the "Prizes" information for the regatta.
    Is this feature available in the current beta (2.12.3) ?

    Please can you confirm that Sailwave "saves" the "Setup"
    values in the Registry on the local computer.

    Regards

    Pete

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Hi Huw

Do you know what revisions are going to be made to the RYA NHC calculations please? Are any details published yet? - I can't see anything on the RYA web site.

Thanks if you can help.

Alan

···

On 1 Jan 2014, at 17:14, Huw Pearce <huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk> wrote:

……
I anticipate the next official release of Sailwave to be in February/March time frame and include the revised RYA NHC handicap calculations. It might also include some other functionality that has been discussed - the capability to specify which races in a Sailwave to use to produce a set of series results from.
…….

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Hi Alan,

The new 2014 NHC has not been finalised yet and is still being fine tuned.

The principle is that new ratings are calculated as previously. Then the standard deviation is calculated for the new ratings. Those outside a predetermined deviation are then classified as Extreme performers. These are then ignored and the calculations redone on the remaining boats.

Each rating is then adjusted by a percentage based on whether they were a standard or extreme performer and whether their adjustment is positive or Negative.

These percentages are still to be finalised.

The ratings are then realigned so that the average of the base ratings for the finishing boats is the same as the average for the new ratings. This realignment method is still under discussion as in the extreme case of a single boat finishing this realignment specification would mean that the finishing boats rating gets set to its base rating (Start of series rating) but no other boats would change, A solution put forward is to not change the ratings unless some predefined no of boats finish say 3 or 5 as an example

Now as Sailwave can support virtually any personal handicap system using an Excel Template - I have produced a template which works to the current latest thinking for the new NHC. This can be downloaded from

https://dl.dropboxusercontent. com/u/220425/SWNHC3.xls

In the template you will find some boxes where you can experiment with different settings

Make sure you edit the template if you want it to work on all future calculations

You can however change it for a particular series by changing it for race 1 and pressing F9 to recalculate the spreadsheet.

What I suggest is that you create a folder named NHC2014 within the Templates directory

and then point the custom templates directory in the Global options to use this directory e.g.

This way you can switch between the 2013 and the 2014 calculations by simply changing the directory of the Templates

To use the template simply select NHC Club mode and Ext/Debug mode

If anyone has any comments are suggestions please let me know while there is some chance of changing it.

Make sure you are using the latest SWHelper File

Which has already been posted here on the forum version 1.3.2

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/220425/SWHelper.EXE

This file goes in the same directory as your Sailwave.exe file.

Jon

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Hi Huw

Do you know what revisions are going to be made to the RYA NHC calculations please? Are any details published yet? - I can’t see anything on the RYA web site.

Thanks if you can help.

Alan

On 1 Jan 2014, at 17:14, Huw Pearce huw.pearce@… wrote:

……
I anticipate the next official release of Sailwave to be in February/March time frame and include the revised RYA NHC handicap calculations. It might also include some other functionality that has been discussed - the capability to specify which races in a Sailwave to use to produce a set of series results from.
…….