App LE Add C [INTRO]

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Hi,

INTRO

···

-----

This an introductory email to an experiment we're just about to run.
Anybody can join in. The goal is to make sure we all understand App LE
Addemdum C - i.e. scoring a major event using flighted qualifying and finals
series - and to make sure that Sailwave can do it in a ressonable way. I
expect to change Sailwave as we go. We will proceed in stages like this:-

  � CJ will post a message called App LE Add C [XXX].

  � That message will be my interpretation of a certain stage of setting up
and scoring; and how Sailwave does it; for example an early topic will be
seeding and a later one reassigning flights.

  � Chitchat will follow (please do not change the message title).

  � Changes will be made to Sailwave if necessary and uploaded.

  � More chit chat until nobody has an issue/question.

Then we go to the next stage and CJ will post a message called called App LE
Add C [YYY]

Repeat until we're all experts and the series is scored - I'm not expert at
present and neither is Sailwav.

***** IMPORTANT******
I propose to use a small series concentrate on the **conceptual/functional**
issues (and ignore things like usability problems wuth duplicate sail
numbers etc) and then extend it to a big series to highlight practical
issues - i.e. after we're all experts in the conceptual/functional issues.
Let's try not to get distracted with minutae at first.
*********************

SOMETHING TO READ
----------------

If you're going to follow this, please read App LE Add C.
http://www.sailing.org/rrs2005/AppLE010105template.doc

THE SERIES
----------

I was going to use Martin's recent series he scored but it's too big, we
need something simple that we can all get into our heads and refer to.
Propose this:-

20 boats in the series with sail numbers 1 to 20.

The boats will be seeded 1-20 according to their sail no.

The 20 boats are split into 4 flights Yellow,Red,Blue,Green for quals.

The 20 boats are split into 4 flights Emerald,Bronze,Silver,Gold for finals.

There at 8 qualification races, 2 per day.

There are 4 finals races, 2 per day.

Also propose to do an alternative finals with just 2 flights (and/or fleets)
Gold and Silver - the reason being that this seems to happen but I'm
convenced it doesn't work! Hopefully I'm wrong.

NEXT
----

Unless there is chit-chat about this post, I'll post the .blw file with the
initial entries and a populated seeding column this afternoon.

PS: this is not about me saying this is how it is - it's more me saying I'm
confused - perhaps those are not confused will straighten things out along
the way - and hopefully others who are confused like me, we'll become
unconfused... (hopefully like I will)!

Colin
www.sailwave.com

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I have been speaking to Ralph over this.

I may be trying to help score the 49er Worlds from the 26th in Moscow.

The sooner the better for me!

Mike Butterfield

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: [sailwave] App LE Add C [INTRO]

Hi,

INTRO
-----

This an introductory email to an experiment we're just about to run.
Anybody can join in. The goal is to make sure we all understand App LE
Addemdum C - i.e. scoring a major event using flighted qualifying and finals
series - and to make sure that Sailwave can do it in a ressonable way. I
expect to change Sailwave as we go. We will proceed in stages like this:-

� CJ will post a message called App LE Add C [XXX].

� That message will be my interpretation of a certain stage of setting up
and scoring; and how Sailwave does it; for example an early topic will be
seeding and a later one reassigning flights.

� Chitchat will follow (please do not change the message title).

� Changes will be made to Sailwave if necessary and uploaded.

� More chit chat until nobody has an issue/question.

Then we go to the next stage and CJ will post a message called called App LE
Add C [YYY]

Repeat until we're all experts and the series is scored - I'm not expert at
present and neither is Sailwav.

***** IMPORTANT******
I propose to use a small series concentrate on the **conceptual/functional**
issues (and ignore things like usability problems wuth duplicate sail
numbers etc) and then extend it to a big series to highlight practical
issues - i.e. after we're all experts in the conceptual/functional issues.
Let's try not to get distracted with minutae at first.
*********************

SOMETHING TO READ
----------------

If you're going to follow this, please read App LE Add C.
http://www.sailing.org/rrs2005/AppLE010105template.doc

THE SERIES
----------

I was going to use Martin's recent series he scored but it's too big, we
need something simple that we can all get into our heads and refer to.
Propose this:-

20 boats in the series with sail numbers 1 to 20.

The boats will be seeded 1-20 according to their sail no.

The 20 boats are split into 4 flights Yellow,Red,Blue,Green for quals.

The 20 boats are split into 4 flights Emerald,Bronze,Silver,Gold for finals.

There at 8 qualification races, 2 per day.

There are 4 finals races, 2 per day.

Also propose to do an alternative finals with just 2 flights (and/or fleets)
Gold and Silver - the reason being that this seems to happen but I'm
convenced it doesn't work! Hopefully I'm wrong.

NEXT
----

Unless there is chit-chat about this post, I'll post the .blw file with the
initial entries and a populated seeding column this afternoon.

PS: this is not about me saying this is how it is - it's more me saying I'm
confused - perhaps those are not confused will straighten things out along
the way - and hopefully others who are confused like me, we'll become
unconfused... (hopefully like I will)!

Colin
www.sailwave.com

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Hi Mike,

Ralph sent me the SIs. It includes some non-standard (but apparently
common) stuff that we can tackle as a veriation in 'the experiment' (why
I've called it an experiment I dont know!) towards the end. I think it's
best we're all talking the same language re stand App LE Add C first...

(I did Russian O'level but can't remember much...!)

Colin
www.sailwave.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Mike & Trish Butterfield
Sent: 19 August 2005 10:46
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] App LE Add C [INTRO]

I have been speaking to Ralph over this.

I may be trying to help score the 49er Worlds from the 26th in Moscow.

The sooner the better for me!

Mike Butterfield
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: [sailwave] App LE Add C [INTRO]

> Hi,
>
> INTRO
> -----
>
> This an introductory email to an experiment we're just about to run.
> Anybody can join in. The goal is to make sure we all understand App LE
> Addemdum C - i.e. scoring a major event using flighted qualifying and
> finals
> series - and to make sure that Sailwave can do it in a
ressonable way. I
> expect to change Sailwave as we go. We will proceed in stages
like this:-
>
> � CJ will post a message called App LE Add C [XXX].
>
> � That message will be my interpretation of a certain stage of
setting up
> and scoring; and how Sailwave does it; for example an early
topic will be
> seeding and a later one reassigning flights.
>
> � Chitchat will follow (please do not change the message title).
>
> � Changes will be made to Sailwave if necessary and uploaded.
>
> � More chit chat until nobody has an issue/question.
>
> Then we go to the next stage and CJ will post a message called
called App
> LE
> Add C [YYY]
>
> Repeat until we're all experts and the series is scored - I'm
not expert
> at
> present and neither is Sailwav.
>
> ***** IMPORTANT******
> I propose to use a small series concentrate on the
> **conceptual/functional**
> issues (and ignore things like usability problems wuth duplicate sail
> numbers etc) and then extend it to a big series to highlight practical
> issues - i.e. after we're all experts in the
conceptual/functional issues.
> Let's try not to get distracted with minutae at first.
> *********************
>
>
>
> SOMETHING TO READ
> ----------------
>
> If you're going to follow this, please read App LE Add C.
> http://www.sailing.org/rrs2005/AppLE010105template.doc
>
>
>
> THE SERIES
> ----------
>
> I was going to use Martin's recent series he scored but it's too big, we
> need something simple that we can all get into our heads and refer to.
> Propose this:-
>
> 20 boats in the series with sail numbers 1 to 20.
>
> The boats will be seeded 1-20 according to their sail no.
>
> The 20 boats are split into 4 flights Yellow,Red,Blue,Green for quals.
>
> The 20 boats are split into 4 flights Emerald,Bronze,Silver,Gold for
> finals.
>
> There at 8 qualification races, 2 per day.
>
> There are 4 finals races, 2 per day.
>
> Also propose to do an alternative finals with just 2 flights (and/or
> fleets)
> Gold and Silver - the reason being that this seems to happen but I'm
> convenced it doesn't work! Hopefully I'm wrong.
>
>
>
> NEXT
> ----
>
> Unless there is chit-chat about this post, I'll post the .blw file with
> the
> initial entries and a populated seeding column this afternoon.
>
> PS: this is not about me saying this is how it is - it's more me saying
> I'm
> confused - perhaps those are not confused will straighten
things out along
> the way - and hopefully others who are confused like me, we'll become
> unconfused... (hopefully like I will)!
>
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
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>
>
>
> -!- http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/ -!- http://www.sailing.org/ -!-
> http://www.sailwave.com/ -!-
>
> Latest versions of sailwave can be downloaded from the 'files'
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sailwave/
>
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We have turned the attachments feature back on for the duration of this experiment.

Simon

[Moderator]

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----- Original Message -----

From:
Colin Jenkins

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:33 AM

Subject: [sailwave] App LE Add C [INTRO]

`Hi,

INTRO

This an introductory email to an experiment we’re just about to run.
Anybody can join in. The goal is to make sure we all understand App LE
Addemdum C - i.e. scoring a major event using flighted qualifying and finals
series - and to make sure that Sailwave can do it in a ressonable way. I
expect to change Sailwave as we go. We will proceed in stages like this:-

¤ CJ will post a message called App LE Add C [XXX].

¤ That message will be my interpretation of a certain stage of setting up

and scoring; and how Sailwave does it; for example an early topic will be
seeding and a later one reassigning flights.

¤ Chitchat will follow (please do not change the message title).

¤ Changes will be made to Sailwave if necessary and uploaded.

¤ More chit chat until nobody has an issue/question.

Then we go to the next stage and CJ will post a message called called App LE
Add C [YYY]

Repeat until we’re all experts and the series is scored - I’m not expert at
present and neither is Sailwav.

***** IMPORTANT******
I propose to use a small series concentrate on the conceptual/functional
issues (and ignore things like usability problems wuth duplicate sail
numbers etc) and then extend it to a big series to highlight practical
issues - i.e. after we’re all experts in the conceptual/functional issues.
Let’s try not to get distracted with minutae at first.

SOMETHING TO READ

If you’re going to follow this, please read App LE Add C.
http://www.sailing.org/rrs2005/AppLE010105template.doc

THE SERIES

I was going to use Martin’s recent series he scored but it’s too big, we
need something simple that we can all get into our heads and refer to.
Propose this:-

20 boats in the series with sail numbers 1 to 20.

The boats will be seeded 1-20 according to their sail no.

The 20 boats are split into 4 flights Yellow,Red,Blue,Green for quals.

The 20 boats are split into 4 flights Emerald,Bronze,Silver,Gold for finals.

There at 8 qualification races, 2 per day.

There are 4 finals races, 2 per day.

Also propose to do an alternative finals with just 2 flights (and/or fleets)
Gold and Silver - the reason being that this seems to happen but I’m
convenced it doesn’t work! Hopefully I’m wrong.

NEXT

Unless there is chit-chat about this post, I’ll post the .blw file with the
initial entries and a populated seeding column this afternoon.

PS: this is not about me saying this is how it is - it’s more me saying I’m
confused - perhaps those are not confused will straighten things out along
the way - and hopefully others who are confused like me, we’ll become
unconfused… (hopefully like I will)!

Colin
www.sailwave.com

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