Hi All,
Quals and finals and Complexity
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I very much want to simply how Sailwave deals with App LE Add C. I
originally added options so that it could all be done in one series because
of Add C 20.4 (below) which seems to imply that there is not a fixed
qualfying score that is carried forward to finals, but rather than a
selection of qualifying and finals races is chosen depending on how many
qual/finals races have been sailed (but maybe and hopefully I have
misinterpreted that).
From experience and looking at event SIs it is by far more common to
deliniate the quals and the finals and it also makes things easier for the
competitor - they know exactly what's happening and can follow where their
score is coming from. i.e. run quals, carry forward points to finals, run
finals. This is how Huw and I set up the 29er Worlds and 49er Europeans.
It's much easier to manage because as soon as the quals are over you can
forget about those races and concentrate on the finals. Also when
publishing the qual results are largely irrelevant so you have to supress
them anyway, so two separate series seemed a common sense approach - it
worked well - and was far easier to understand/manage...
http://www.9erchamps2006.com/results/overall29er.htm
http://www.9erchamps2006.com/results/overall49er.htm
It would also greatly simplify Sailwave and event SIs because essentially
it's just two series flowing into one another each with their individual
scoring system. At present, because it's all in one file, I need all the
extra 'finals' bits in the scoring system that would in fact become
redundant (like the extra discard profile).
Because it seems to be how people are interpreting Add C 20.4, I propose to
make this simplification and add facilities to flow one series into another;
which as it happens also helps in other contexts...
In summary: score quals and get a *fixed* easy to understannd qual score
that is carried forward into a new CFWD column in another series
automatically. i.e. the other series would be setup to suck in a CFWD score
as approripate (NB: Huw - with options to use places or points!). The
sucking in would be done each time you score the finals series, so you could
go and rescore quals if needed.
20.4 (below) does not seem to deliniate the two series because it's
referring to a total number of races sailed, even though further up the text
it refers to a qualifying series and a finals series as two separate
entities... 20.4 (c) is the problem: both scores may come from the quals
*or* one may come from the quals and one from the finals - that is also a
problem because fleet sizes are different and comparing scores across
quals/finals in terms of discards and absolute points is serioously flawed
(surely?).
What do you think...?
Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com
20.4
(a) When fewer than 5 races have been completed, a boat�s regatta score will
be
the total of her race scores.
(b) When from 5 to 11 races have been completed, a boat�s regatta score will
be
the total of her race scores excluding her worst score.
(c) When 12 or more races have been completed, a boat�s regatta score will
be the
total of her race scores excluding her two worst scores. [However, no more
than one score may be excluded from the final series and only when two or
more final-series races have been completed.]
(d) For boats with scores from final-series races, ties in the regatta score
are
broken by final-series scores with no race score excluded. This changes rule
A8.
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