Hi, Due to some recent feedback from an association I want to bring Sailwave
up to date WRT App KE (again!). It seems to me that fundamentally all that
is needed is to allow more then one 1st, 2nd etc per race. E.g. take the
ISAF's example of 4 fleets ABCD. To create the qualifying series you create
a series of N races where N is a multiple of 3 because each "set" has 3
races (AB+CD,AC+BD,AD+BC). Then just enter the results of each race
allowing more then one 1st, 2nd per race; i.e. *not* scoring the fleets
separately or modelling the fleets at all.
This leaves fleet assignment as an administrative rather then a scoring task
*for now*, but does facilitate scoring an App K qualifying series, or have I
missed something...? The maths seems to work.
e.g. 4 'fleets' 2 competitors per fleet, one set.
r1 r2 r3
c1 1 1 1
c2 2 2 2
c3 1 1 1
c4 2 2 2
c5 1 1 1
c6 2 2 2
c7 1 1 1
c8 2 2 2
From a UI POV it just comes down to a 3rd option for "race tie resolution"
in Edit+ScoringSystem of "App KE qualifying series" or something...
An extension would be to show 'fleet' assignments for the purposes of racing
letting competitors know what racing fleet they are in.
NB: A whole race can already be explicitly excluded from scoring in Sailwave
which facilitates the requirement of dumping recent scores if boats sail
different numbers of races.
Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com
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Remember that it is not ALWAYS 4 groups… In the Optimist Worlds it was 6 groups, and it could be other numbers… Also remember that ISAF has a new proposal, addendum C, wich was like the 49er class is racing. I think that more group racing can be like that in the future, and tha it will then be less “old” ABCD groups…
Martin
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Colin Jenkins
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Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:37 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Appendix KE (again)
` Hi, Due to some recent feedback from an association I want to bring Sailwave
up to date WRT App KE (again!). It seems to me that fundamentally all that
is needed is to allow more then one 1st, 2nd etc per race. E.g. take the
ISAF’s example of 4 fleets ABCD. To create the qualifying series you create
a series of N races where N is a multiple of 3 because each “set” has 3
races (AB+CD,AC+BD,AD+BC). Then just enter the results of each race
allowing more then one 1st, 2nd per race; i.e. not scoring the fleets
separately or modelling the fleets at all.
This leaves fleet assignment as an administrative rather then a scoring task
for now, but does facilitate scoring an App K qualifying series, or have I
missed something…? The maths seems to work.
e.g. 4 ‘fleets’ 2 competitors per fleet, one set.
r1 r2 r3
c1 1 1 1
c2 2 2 2
c3 1 1 1
c4 2 2 2
c5 1 1 1
c6 2 2 2
c7 1 1 1
c8 2 2 2
From a UI POV it just comes down to a 3rd option for “race tie resolution”
in Edit+ScoringSystem of “App KE qualifying series” or something…
An extension would be to show ‘fleet’ assignments for the purposes of racing
letting competitors know what racing fleet they are in.
NB: A whole race can already be explicitly excluded from scoring in Sailwave
which facilitates the requirement of dumping recent scores if boats sail
different numbers of races.
Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com
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Hi Martin,
Remember that it is not ALWAYS 4 groups… In the Optimist Worlds it was 6 groups, and it could be other numbers… <
Sure, but by allowing more then one 1st, 2nd etc per race you can handle anything. Fleet assignment is a publishing/administrative issue…
Also remember that ISAF has a new proposal, addendum C, wich was like the 49er class is racing. I think that more group racing can be like that in the future, and tha it will then be less “old” ABCD groups… <
Yes, it was Addendum C I was referring to. There are just a few complications WRT mixing the qualifying and final series when required. But it seems to me that the basic qualifying series can be scored as one fleet by allowing more then one 1st, 2nd etc…
Regards,
Colin