date forms

Hi Bill and Colin,

i Scandinavia we use YYYY/MM/DD and YY/MM/DD

/Anders

Hi Colin,

You are correct, mm/dd/yy or mm/dd/yyyy are the common forms. I

rarely if

ever see dd/mm/yyyy here in the states.

-Bill

From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@s…]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:11 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] date forms

Am I right in thinking that in the USA ( at least) the most common

short

date form is mm/dd/yy, as opposed to our UK date form of

dd/mm/yy? Or do

you use both equally as much...? If the former, it would

presumably be

something of an irritant to have to enter dd/mm/yy...? The

context here is

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-----Original Message-----
From: Anders Landenstad [mailto:anders.landenstad@telia.com]
Sent: 06 May 2004 13:12
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: date forms

Hi Bill and Colin,

i Scandinavia we use YYYY/MM/DD and YY/MM/DD

/Anders

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hunt" <webmaster@b…> wrote:
> Hi Colin,
>
> You are correct, mm/dd/yy or mm/dd/yyyy are the common forms. I
rarely if
> ever see dd/mm/yyyy here in the states.
>
> -Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@s…]
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:11 AM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] date forms
>
> Am I right in thinking that in the USA ( at least) the most common
short
> date form is mm/dd/yy, as opposed to our UK date form of
dd/mm/yy? Or do
> you use both equally as much…? If the former, it would
presumably be
> something of an irritant to have to enter dd/mm/yy…? The
context here is
> dates in start/finish times.
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
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When programming there is a way to set your program to use the
default date format used by the system you are working on. I am not a
programmer but I have done lots of testing for programmers in the
past and this problem often crops up. It is best solved by using the
default system as defined in the regional settings on a computer.

Regards
Terry

From: Anders Landenstad [mailto:anders.landenstad@telia.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 01:12 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: date forms

Hi Bill and Colin,

i Scandinavia we use YYYY/MM/DD and YY/MM/DD

/Anders

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hunt" <webmaster@b...>

wrote:

> Hi Colin,
>
> You are correct, mm/dd/yy or mm/dd/yyyy are the common forms. I
rarely if
> ever see dd/mm/yyyy here in the states.
>
> -Bill
>
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@s…]
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:11 AM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] date forms
>
> Am I right in thinking that in the USA ( at least) the most

common

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short
> date form is mm/dd/yy, as opposed to our UK date form of
dd/mm/yy? Or do
> you use both equally as much...? If the former, it would
presumably be
> something of an irritant to have to enter dd/mm/yy...? The
context here is
> dates in start/finish times.
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
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Hi Terry,

Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately that doesn't work in this context
because it's part of the start/finish time specification - i.e. something
the user must type in (using a UI would be too slow).

Also the textual form must be retained for checking against the paper
results. If I forced use of the system time and then you send the series to
somebody else and score it, you'll get different results
or it will not score at all. The specificarion of the date format for
start/finish times must be in the series itself for that reason - not really
a problem - I was just trying to get away with only having dd/mm/yy, and
failing... :slight_smile:

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

···

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
Sent: 06 May 2004 13:34
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: date forms

When programming there is a way to set your program to use the
default date format used by the system you are working on. I am not a
programmer but I have done lots of testing for programmers in the
past and this problem often crops up. It is best solved by using the
default system as defined in the regional settings on a computer.

Regards
Terry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anders Landenstad [mailto:anders.landenstad@telia.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 01:12 PM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Re: date forms
>
>
> Hi Bill and Colin,
>
> i Scandinavia we use YYYY/MM/DD and YY/MM/DD
>
> /Anders
>
> — In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hunt" <webmaster@b…>
wrote:
> > Hi Colin,
> >
> > You are correct, mm/dd/yy or mm/dd/yyyy are the common forms. I
> rarely if
> > ever see dd/mm/yyyy here in the states.
> >
> > -Bill
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@s…]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:11 AM
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [sailwave] date forms
> >
> > Am I right in thinking that in the USA ( at least) the most
common
> short
> > date form is mm/dd/yy, as opposed to our UK date form of
> dd/mm/yy? Or do
> > you use both equally as much…? If the former, it would
> presumably be
> > something of an irritant to have to enter dd/mm/yy…? The
> context here is
> > dates in start/finish times.
> >
> > Regards,
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colin,

Can I be taken off the sail.wave email list that includes me in all emails.

Thanks

Steve Leo
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  From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
  Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 5:53 AM
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: date forms

  Hi Terry,

  Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately that doesn't work in this context
  because it's part of the start/finish time specification - i.e. something
  the user must type in (using a UI would be too slow).

  Also the textual form must be retained for checking against the paper
  results. If I forced use of the system time and then you send the series
to
  somebody else and score it, you'll get different results
  or it will not score at all. The specificarion of the date format for
  start/finish times must be in the series itself for that reason - not
really
  a problem - I was just trying to get away with only having dd/mm/yy, and
  failing... :slight_smile:

  Regards,
  Colin J
  www.sailwave.com

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
  > Sent: 06 May 2004 13:34
  > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: date forms
  >
  >
  > When programming there is a way to set your program to use the
  > default date format used by the system you are working on. I am not a
  > programmer but I have done lots of testing for programmers in the
  > past and this problem often crops up. It is best solved by using the
  > default system as defined in the regional settings on a computer.
  >
  > Regards
  > Terry
  >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: Anders Landenstad [mailto:anders.landenstad@telia.com]
  > > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 01:12 PM
  > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  > > Subject: [sailwave] Re: date forms
  > >
  > >
  > > Hi Bill and Colin,
  > >
  > > i Scandinavia we use YYYY/MM/DD and YY/MM/DD
  > >
  > > /Anders
  > >
  > > — In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hunt" <webmaster@b…>
  > wrote:
  > > > Hi Colin,
  > > >
  > > > You are correct, mm/dd/yy or mm/dd/yyyy are the common forms. I
  > > rarely if
  > > > ever see dd/mm/yyyy here in the states.
  > > >
  > > > -Bill
  > > >
  > > > -----Original Message-----
  > > > From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@s…]
  > > > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:11 AM
  > > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  > > > Subject: [sailwave] date forms
  > > >
  > > > Am I right in thinking that in the USA ( at least) the most
  > common
  > > short
  > > > date form is mm/dd/yy, as opposed to our UK date form of
  > > dd/mm/yy? Or do
  > > > you use both equally as much…? If the former, it would
  > > presumably be
  > > > something of an irritant to have to enter dd/mm/yy…? The
  > > context here is
  > > > dates in start/finish times.
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In Windows Registry, there are some locale settings for dates. See
the following MSDN notes:

LCTYPE Constants
An LCTYPE constant is a constant that specifies a particular piece
of locale information.

The values in the following list correspond to the names of these
values in the configuration registry, under both the user's
preferences (as values in the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control
Panel\International) and the system's installed languages (as files
pointed to by registry keys, one key per language installed, under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\NLS). All values
are null-terminated Unicode™ strings. If no maximum length is
indicated, the strings may vary in length.

Constant Description
LOCALE_SDATE Character(s) for the date separator.
LOCALE_STIME Character(s) for the time separator.
LOCALE_STIMEFORMAT Time formatting strings for this locale. The
string can consist of a combination of the hour, minute, and second
format pictures defined in the Hour, Minute, and Second Format
Pictures table in National Language Support Constants.
LOCALE_SYEARMONTH The Year/Month formatting string for the locale.
This string shows the proper format for a date string that contains
only the year and the month.
LOCALE_SSHORTDATE Short date formatting string for this locale. The
string can consist of a combination of day, month, and year format
pictures defined in Day, Month, Year, and Era Format Pictures table
in National Language Support Constants.
LOCALE_SLONGDATE Long date formatting string for this locale. The
string can consist of a combination of day, month, and year format
pictures defined in the Day, Month, Year, and Era Format Pictures
table in National Language Support Constants and any string of
characters enclosed in single quotes. Characters in single quotes
remain as given.
LOCALE_IDATE Short date format-ordering specifier. The maximum
number of characters allowed for this string is 2. The specifier can
be one of the following values:

Value Meaning
0 Month-Day-Year
1 Day-Month-Year
2 Year-Month-Day

LOCALE_ILDATE Long date format-ordering specifier. The maximum
number of characters allowed for this string is 2. The specifier can
be one of the following values:

Value Meaning
0 Month-Day-Year
1 Day-Month-Year
2 Year-Month-Day

LOCALE_ITIME Time format specifier. The maximum number of characters
allowed for this string is 2. The specifier can be one of the
following values:

Value Meaning
0 AM / PM 12-hour format
1 24-hour format

LOCALE_ICENTURY Specifier for full 4-digit century. The maximum
number of characters allowed for this string is 2. The specifier can
be one of the following values:

Value Meaning
0 Abbreviated 2-digit century
1 Full 4-digit century

LOCALE_ITLZERO Specifier for leading zeros in time fields. The
maximum number of characters allowed for this string is 2. The
specifier can be one of the following values:

Value Meaning
0 No leading zeros for hours
1 Leading zeros for hours

LOCALE_IDAYLZERO Specifier for leading zeros in day fields. The
maximum number of characters allowed for this string is 2. The
specifier can be one of the following values:

Value Meaning
0 No leading zeros for days
1 Leading zeros for days

LOCALE_IMONLZERO Specifier for leading zeros in month fields. The
maximum number of characters allowed for this string is 2. The
specifier can be one of the following values:

Value Meaning
0 No leading zeros for months
1 Leading zeros for months

LOCALE_S1159 String for the AM designator.
LOCALE_S2359 String for the PM designator.
LOCALE_ICALENDARTYPE Current calendar type. This type can be one of
these values:

Value Meaning
1 Gregorian (as in United States)
2 Gregorian (English strings always)
3 Era: Year of the Emperor (Japan)
4 Era: Year of Taiwan Region
5 Tangun Era (Korea)

LOCALE_IOPTIONALCALENDAR Additional calendar types. This can be a
zero-separated list of one or more of these calendars type values:

Value Meaning
0 No additional types valid
1 Gregorian (as in United States)
2 Gregorian (English strings always)
3 Era: Year of the Emperor (Japan)
4 Era: Year of Taiwan Region
5 Tangun Era (Korea)

LOCALE_IFIRSTDAYOFWEEK Specifier for the first day in a week. The
specifier can be one of these values:

Value Meaning
0 LOCALE_SDAYNAME1
1 LOCALE_SDAYNAME2
2 LOCALE_SDAYNAME3
3 LOCALE_SDAYNAME4
4 LOCALE_SDAYNAME5
5 LOCALE_SDAYNAME6
6 LOCALE_SDAYNAME7

LOCALE_IFIRSTWEEKOFYEAR Specifier for the first week of the year.
The specifier can be one of these values:

Value Meaning
0 Week containing 1/1 is the first week of that year.
1 First full week following 1/1 is the first week of that year.
2 First week containing at least 4 days is the first week of that
year.

LOCALE_SDAYNAME1 Native long name for Monday.
LOCALE_SDAYNAME2 Native long name for Tuesday.
LOCALE_SDAYNAME3 Native long name for Wednesday.
LOCALE_SDAYNAME4 Native long name for Thursday.
LOCALE_SDAYNAME5 Native long name for Friday.
LOCALE_SDAYNAME6 Native long name for Saturday.
LOCALE_SDAYNAME7 Native long name for Sunday.
LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME1 Native abbreviated name for Monday.
LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME2 Native abbreviated name for Tuesday.
LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME3 Native abbreviated name for Wednesday.
LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME4 Native abbreviated name for Thursday.
LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME5 Native abbreviated name for Friday.
LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME6 Native abbreviated name for Saturday.
LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME7 Native abbreviated name for Sunday.
LOCALE_SMONTHNAME1 Native long name for January.
LOCALE_SMONTHNAME2 Native long name for February.
LOCALE_SMONTHNAME3 Native long name for March.
LOCALE_SMONTHNAME4 Native long name for April.
LOCALE_SMONTHNAME5 Native long name for May.
LOCALE_SMONTHNAME6 Native long name for June.
LOCALE_SMONTHNAME7 Native long name for July.
LOCALE_SMONTHNAME8 Native long name for August.
LOCALE_SMONTHNAME9 Native long name for September.
LOCALE_SMONTHNAME10 Native long name for October.
LOCALE_SMONTHNAME11 Native long name for November.
LOCALE_SMONTHNAME12 Native long name for December.
LOCALE_SMONTHNAME13 Native name for 13th month, if exists.
LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME1 Native abbreviated name for January.
LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME2 Native abbreviated name for February.
LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME3 Native abbreviated name for March.
LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME4 Native abbreviated name for April.
LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME5 Native abbreviated name for May.
LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME6 Native abbreviated name for June.
LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME7 Native abbreviated name for July.
LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME8 Native abbreviated name for August.
LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME9 Native abbreviated name for September.
LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME10 Native abbreviated name for October.
LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME11 Native abbreviated name for November.
LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME12 Native abbreviated name for December.
LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME13 Native abbreviated name for 13th month, if
exists.

When programming there is a way to set your program to use the
default date format used by the system you are working on. I am

not a

programmer but I have done lots of testing for programmers in the
past and this problem often crops up. It is best solved by using

the

default system as defined in the regional settings on a computer.

Regards
Terry

> From: Anders Landenstad [mailto:anders.landenstad@t…]
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 01:12 PM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Re: date forms
>
>
> Hi Bill and Colin,
>
> i Scandinavia we use YYYY/MM/DD and YY/MM/DD
>
> /Anders
>
> — In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hunt" <webmaster@b…>
wrote:
> > Hi Colin,
> >
> > You are correct, mm/dd/yy or mm/dd/yyyy are the common forms. I
> rarely if
> > ever see dd/mm/yyyy here in the states.
> >
> > -Bill
> >
> > From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@s…]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:11 AM
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [sailwave] date forms
> >
> > Am I right in thinking that in the USA ( at least) the most
common
> short
> > date form is mm/dd/yy, as opposed to our UK date form of
> dd/mm/yy? Or do
> > you use both equally as much…? If the former, it would
> presumably be
> > something of an irritant to have to enter dd/mm/yy…? The
> context here is
> > dates in start/finish times.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Colin
> > www.sailwave.com
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The format ccyy/mm/dd is the most universal standard and if you only want to
use one I would suggest using that format... People in all parts of the
globe understand that format where as dd/mm/yy, mm/dd/yy or yy/mm/dd always
causes confusiuon...

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-------Original Message-------

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Date: 05/08/04 02:02:43
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: date forms

Hi Terry,

Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately that doesn't work in this context
because it's part of the start/finish time specification - i.e. something
the user must type in (using a UI would be too slow).

Also the textual form must be retained for checking against the paper
results. If I forced use of the system time and then you send the series to
somebody else and score it, you'll get different results
or it will not score at all. The specificarion of the date format for
start/finish times must be in the series itself for that reason - not really
a problem - I was just trying to get away with only having dd/mm/yy, and
failing... :slight_smile:

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
Sent: 06 May 2004 13:34
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: date forms

When programming there is a way to set your program to use the
default date format used by the system you are working on. I am not a
programmer but I have done lots of testing for programmers in the
past and this problem often crops up. It is best solved by using the
default system as defined in the regional settings on a computer.

Regards
Terry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anders Landenstad [mailto:anders.landenstad@telia.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 01:12 PM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Re: date forms
>
>
> Hi Bill and Colin,
>
> i Scandinavia we use YYYY/MM/DD and YY/MM/DD
>
> /Anders
>
> — In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hunt" <webmaster@b…>
wrote:
> > Hi Colin,
> >
> > You are correct, mm/dd/yy or mm/dd/yyyy are the common forms. I
> rarely if
> > ever see dd/mm/yyyy here in the states.
> >
> > -Bill
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@s…]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:11 AM
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [sailwave] date forms
> >
> > Am I right in thinking that in the USA ( at least) the most
common
> short
> > date form is mm/dd/yy, as opposed to our UK date form of
> dd/mm/yy? Or do
> > you use both equally as much…? If the former, it would
> presumably be
> > something of an irritant to have to enter dd/mm/yy…? The
> context here is
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I have never seen anyone in the states use ccyy/mm/dd, including the US
Olympic Committee and US Sailing Association. The only form used
without confusion would be mm/dd/yy or mm/dd/yyyy. Your program is the
best, please do not change the format. Thank you!

···

Mark Townsend wrote on 5/10/2004, 12:47 PM:

> The format ccyy/mm/dd is the most universal standard and if you only
> want to
> use one I would suggest using that format… People in all parts of the
> globe understand that format where as dd/mm/yy, mm/dd/yy or yy/mm/dd
> always
> causes confusiuon…
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 05/08/04 02:02:43
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: date forms
>
> Hi Terry,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately that doesn't work in this context
> because it's part of the start/finish time specification - i.e. something
> the user must type in (using a UI would be too slow).
>
> Also the textual form must be retained for checking against the paper
> results. If I forced use of the system time and then you send the
> series to
> somebody else and score it, you'll get different results
> or it will not score at all. The specificarion of the date format for
> start/finish times must be in the series itself for that reason - not
> really
> a problem - I was just trying to get away with only having dd/mm/yy, and
> failing… :slight_smile:
>
> Regards,
> Colin J
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
> > Sent: 06 May 2004 13:34
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: date forms
> >
> >
> > When programming there is a way to set your program to use the
> > default date format used by the system you are working on. I am not a
> > programmer but I have done lots of testing for programmers in the
> > past and this problem often crops up. It is best solved by using the
> > default system as defined in the regional settings on a computer.
> >
> > Regards
> > Terry
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Anders Landenstad [mailto:anders.landenstad@telia.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 01:12 PM
> > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [sailwave] Re: date forms
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Bill and Colin,
> > >
> > > i Scandinavia we use YYYY/MM/DD and YY/MM/DD
> > >
> > > /Anders
> > >
> > > — In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hunt" <webmaster@b…>
> > wrote:
> > > > Hi Colin,
> > > >
> > > > You are correct, mm/dd/yy or mm/dd/yyyy are the common forms. I
> > > rarely if
> > > > ever see dd/mm/yyyy here in the states.
> > > >
> > > > -Bill
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@s…]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:11 AM
> > > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [sailwave] date forms
> > > >
> > > > Am I right in thinking that in the USA ( at least) the most
> > common
> > > short
> > > > date form is mm/dd/yy, as opposed to our UK date form of
> > > dd/mm/yy? Or do
> > > > you use both equally as much…? If the former, it would
> > > presumably be
> > > > something of an irritant to have to enter dd/mm/yy…? The
> > > context here is
> > > > dates in start/finish times.
> > > >
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Hi Fred,

The only form used without confusion
would be mm/dd/yy or mm/dd/yyyy.

Without confusion in the USA :slight_smile:

I think I'll have to live with a "this is the date format I'm using"
field, which I can then check if there is ambiguity and further warn
if there is ambiguity and it's not set - that way everything is
fairly safe. Also, I'll echo the expected form as per the spec under
start time fields.

Thanks for your comments.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

I still do not understand what all the fuss is about, why not simply
let your program use the computers regional settings for date format.
Look at "Excel", It is an Internationally recognised product and is
used all over the world. Setting up an excel spreadsheet and sending
it from the UK to the US or anywhere else where dates are read
differently does not suddenly muddle up the results. This is because
dates are actually read in Julian date format (where 5/11/2004 =
38296 and 05/11/2004 10:38:11 = 38296.4431828704) To check this
enter a date in Excel, then change the format of the cell to
"general" to see what the Julian date value is.

Every country can therefore change and enter or extract data in
whatever format they choose without causing any errors when
calculations are made.

Regards
Terry

From: sailwavedev [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 09:17 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: date forms

Hi Fred,

> The only form used without confusion
> would be mm/dd/yy or mm/dd/yyyy.

Without confusion in the USA :slight_smile:

I think I'll have to live with a "this is the date format I'm

using"

field, which I can then check if there is ambiguity and further

warn

if there is ambiguity and it's not set - that way everything is
fairly safe. Also, I'll echo the expected form as per the spec

under

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Thanks for your comments.

Regards,
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www.sailwave.com

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