I have had a catastrophic crash of my development machine and lost
all current development, which was significant stuff - real big
changes to infrastructure; I'll be out of the loop for a while.
Writing this on-line from my kids' computer...
CJ
it's worse than that. the backbups seem to be corrupted. as it
stands sailwave doesn't exist in a development form; i may have to
start again... happy xmas. cj.
···
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, colin@s... wrote:
I have had a catastrophic crash of my development machine and lost
all current development, which was significant stuff - real big
changes to infrastructure; I'll be out of the loop for a while.
Writing this on-line from my kids' computer...CJ
Hi Colin,
Not withstanding the your computer issues <oops>, we do hope you had a wonderful xmas and will have an great New Year. A few of us at the Surrey Sailing Club (in British Columbia, Canada) have requested of the treasurer to send a cheque to you for Sailwave. I will attempt to speed up the process as I can see that a new machine is something that Santa didn't foresee.
Now would be a good time for everyone who hasn't made a donation to Colin for his efforts, and regularly use his Sailwave, to do so.
Colin, thanks again for your hard work, it is well appreciated.
Jim
Webmaster, Surrey Sailing Club
www.surreysailingclub.bc.ca
colin@sailwave.com wrote:
it's worse than that. the backbups seem to be corrupted. as it
stands sailwave doesn't exist in a development form; i may have to
start again... happy xmas. cj.
I have had a catastrophic crash of my development machine and lost
all current development, which was significant stuff - real big
changes to infrastructure; I'll be out of the loop for a while.
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Thanks Jim, spent Xmas in Fuerteventura and still here... 
Very
sunny, not looking forward to UK weather when we get back; I have
found a backup of a couple of version ago, so I´ll use that and redo
the dev since then...
Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com
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wrote:
Hi Colin,
Not withstanding the your computer issues <oops>, we do hope you
had a wonderful xmas and will have an great New Year. A few of us
at the Surrey Sailing Club (in British Columbia, Canada) have
requested of the treasurer to send a cheque to you for Sailwave. I
will attempt to speed up the process as I can see that a new machine
is something that Santa didn't foresee.
Now would be a good time for everyone who hasn't made a donation
to Colin for his efforts, and regularly use his Sailwave, to do so.
Colin, thanks again for your hard work, it is well appreciated.
Jim
Webmaster, Surrey Sailing Club
www.surreysailingclub.bc.cacolin@s... wrote:
it's worse than that. the backbups seem to be corrupted. as it
stands sailwave doesn't exist in a development form; i may have to
start again... happy xmas. cj.> I have had a catastrophic crash of my development machine and
lost
> all current development, which was significant stuff - real big
> changes to infrastructure; I'll be out of the loop for a while.
> Writing this on-line from my kids' computer...
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Hello Collin,
I am sorry to hear about the problems you are having
with the development computer for sail wave. First off, please let me
introduce myself and the club. I am involved with a small trailer sailer
club on the South Coast of NSW in Australia. (About 200 ks south of
Sydney). We race on St Georges Basin adjacent Jervis Bay. Most of our
members have retired from the workforce. (average age is about 65, our
oldest is 80). We only have about 20 boats on our books with normal fleet
sizes from 8 to 14. We don't have a club house or rescue boat and rely on
the genorosity on some of the members to assist with these needs with a
private boat and water front property for social gatherings after the races.
Given that most of our members are aged, our races are cancelled when wind
strengths exceed 25 kts. We usually loose half of our races before
christmas when we experience frequent 25 kt north easters.
I have recently been given the task of handicaper and scorer. This can be a
painful experience trying to do it all the old fashion way especially for a
regatta. I was trying to set up an Excel spreadsheet to assist when I was
told about your program. I have had a quick look at your program and I am
very impressed with what you have done so far. I still have a little bit to
learn on getting the most out of the program. eg. I am currently trying to
work out how to include PBH results by using the custom formula. We use a
simple whole minute system where we add (or subtract) the PBH to/from the
elapsed time to get a result. Unfortunately I cant get the program to
recognise the formula. I have attached a screen print of the formula I have
atempted to use. Essentially I was hoping to be able to use this program to
record all starting and finishing times, and positions. When I publish the
results, I would like to include the times. I cant do this if I select a
position.
Can the program cater for this type of PBH?
I know a handicapping capability is not currently included but is there any
intention to include this capability in the future?
I think you have done an excellent job on this program so far and it seems
to work exceptionally well for CBH racing but unfortunately most of our
races are based on a PBH. I am going to trial the program with our regatta
next weekend. When I fully understand the workings of the program and the
benefits to the club, I will discuss with the committee, the possibility of
a donation to assist with further development .
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for the opportunity to
trial your program and will pass it on to other clubs on our area. Many of
the other visiting club members will see it in action as I am hoping to have
a lap top set up in the officials tent.
If you know of any handicapping programs that will work in well with your
program, please let me know. Hope to hear from you soon.
Regards
Greg
···
----- Original Message -----
From: <colin@sailwave.com>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:54 AM
Subject: [sailwave] Re: disaster
it's worse than that. the backbups seem to be corrupted. as it
stands sailwave doesn't exist in a development form; i may have to
start again... happy xmas. cj.--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, colin@s... wrote:
> I have had a catastrophic crash of my development machine and lost
> all current development, which was significant stuff - real big
> changes to infrastructure; I'll be out of the loop for a while.
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Colin
Spurred on by Jim (and others) I have got agreement for ALDENHAM
SAILING CLUB (Hertfordshire, UK see www.aldenhamsc.co.uk) to become a
Sailwave Sponsor and have paid up via PayPal. It wasn't hard to get
agreement as all at the club recognise the value of Sailwave. Other
clubs should do it!
Hope you get up and running again soon.
Best wishes for 2004
James Le Couilliard
Sailing Secretary
Aldenham Sailing Club
www.aldenhamsc.co.uk
Hi Colin,
Not withstanding the your computer issues <oops>, we do hope you
had a wonderful xmas and will have an great New Year. A few of us at
the Surrey Sailing Club (in British Columbia, Canada) have requested
of the treasurer to send a cheque to you for Sailwave. I will
attempt to speed up the process as I can see that a new machine is
something that Santa didn't foresee.
Now would be a good time for everyone who hasn't made a donation to
Colin for his efforts, and regularly use his Sailwave, to do so.
Colin, thanks again for your hard work, it is well appreciated.
Jim
Webmaster, Surrey Sailing Club
www.surreysailingclub.bc.cacolin@s... wrote:
it's worse than that. the backbups seem to be corrupted. as it
stands sailwave doesn't exist in a development form; i may have to
start again... happy xmas. cj.> I have had a catastrophic crash of my development machine and
lost
···
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jim de Vries <laser93069@y...> wrote:
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, colin@s... wrote:
> all current development, which was significant stuff - real big
> changes to infrastructure; I'll be out of the loop for a while.
> Writing this on-line from my kids' computer...
>
> CJ
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Hi Jim,
Hi Colin,
Not withstanding the your computer issues <oops>,
we do hope you had a wonderful xmas and will have
an great New Year. A few of us at the Surrey Sailing
Club (in British Columbia, Canada) have requested of
the treasurer to send a cheque to you for Sailwave.
I will attempt to speed up the process as I can see
that a new machine is something that Santa didn't
foresee.
Thanks, Jim. Almost caught up and new website up and running now; thanks
for sponsorship consideration. I've changed 'sponsor' to 'partner' to avoid
some of the negative aspects of 'on-line' sponsors.
Now would be a good time for everyone who hasn't made a
donation to Colin for his efforts, and regularly use his
Sailwave, to do so. Colin, thanks again for your hard
work, it is well appreciated.
Thanks for you comments Jim. they are appreciated.
Regards,
Colin Jenkins
www.sailwave.com
----- original message
Jim
Webmaster, Surrey Sailing Club
www.surreysailingclub.bc.ca
colin@sailwave.com wrote:
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stands sailwave doesn't exist in a development form; i may have to
start again... happy xmas. cj.
I have had a catastrophic crash of my development machine and lost
all current development, which was significant stuff - real big
changes to infrastructure; I'll be out of the loop for a while.
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Hi Greg
We use a simple whole minute system where we
add (or subtract) the PBH to/from the
elapsed time to get a result.
The board ate your attachment so I can't see you formula but if I understand
you correctly, the formula would be something like:-
e + r*60
Where the rating values are in minutes and signed. Thu multiplication by 60
is needed because at the point the rating system is evaluated, all times are
in seconds. On your other point, I'm not sure I understand it as in my head
(which is iften wonky) one records finish times or positions but not both.
Can you explain further.
Regards,
Colin Jenkins
www.sailwave.com
···
-----Original Message-----
From: greg brown [mailto:gmrlbrown@shoal.net.au]
Sent: 06 January 2004 12:19
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: disaster
Hello Collin,
I am sorry to hear about the problems you are having
with the development computer for sail wave. First off, please let me
introduce myself and the club. I am involved with a small trailer sailer
club on the South Coast of NSW in Australia. (About 200 ks south of
Sydney). We race on St Georges Basin adjacent Jervis Bay. Most of our
members have retired from the workforce. (average age is about 65, our
oldest is 80). We only have about 20 boats on our books with normal fleet
sizes from 8 to 14. We don't have a club house or rescue boat and rely on
the genorosity on some of the members to assist with these needs with a
private boat and water front property for social gatherings after the races.
Given that most of our members are aged, our races are cancelled when wind
strengths exceed 25 kts. We usually loose half of our races before
christmas when we experience frequent 25 kt north easters.
I have recently been given the task of handicaper and scorer. This can be a
painful experience trying to do it all the old fashion way especially for a
regatta. I was trying to set up an Excel spreadsheet to assist when I was
told about your program. I have had a quick look at your program and I am
very impressed with what you have done so far. I still have a little bit to
learn on getting the most out of the program. eg. I am currently trying to
work out how to include PBH results by using the custom formula. We use a
simple whole minute system where we add (or subtract) the PBH to/from the
elapsed time to get a result. Unfortunately I cant get the program to
recognise the formula. I have attached a screen print of the formula I have
atempted to use. Essentially I was hoping to be able to use this program to
record all starting and finishing times, and positions. When I publish the
results, I would like to include the times. I cant do this if I select a
position.
Can the program cater for this type of PBH?
I know a handicapping capability is not currently included but is there any
intention to include this capability in the future?
I think you have done an excellent job on this program so far and it seems
to work exceptionally well for CBH racing but unfortunately most of our
races are based on a PBH. I am going to trial the program with our regatta
next weekend. When I fully understand the workings of the program and the
benefits to the club, I will discuss with the committee, the possibility of
a donation to assist with further development .
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for the opportunity to
trial your program and will pass it on to other clubs on our area. Many of
the other visiting club members will see it in action as I am hoping to have
a lap top set up in the officials tent.
If you know of any handicapping programs that will work in well with your
program, please let me know. Hope to hear from you soon.
Regards
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: <colin@sailwave.com>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:54 AM
Subject: [sailwave] Re: disaster
it's worse than that. the backbups seem to be corrupted. as it
stands sailwave doesn't exist in a development form; i may have to
start again... happy xmas. cj.--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, colin@s... wrote:
> I have had a catastrophic crash of my development machine and lost
> all current development, which was significant stuff - real big
> changes to infrastructure; I'll be out of the loop for a while.
> Writing this on-line from my kids' computer...
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Hi James,
Spurred on by Jim (and others) I have got agreement for ALDENHAM
SAILING CLUB (Hertfordshire, UK see www.aldenhamsc.co.uk) to become a
Sailwave Sponsor and have paid up via PayPal. It wasn't hard to get
agreement as all at the club recognise the value of Sailwave. Other
clubs should do it! Hope you get up and running again soon.<
Thanks James, Aldenham are not a sponsor (partner) and appar in the list on
the web site.
Regards,
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Hi Colin,
Thanks for your response. I tried your formula (c=e+r*60) but I am
still getting an error message. It says "Corrected time is being evaluated
as 0" . See Attachment.
I have been reading all the other emails on the site. For a lot of reasons,
I prefer the rating needed to win system that others are using to calculate
a PBH. I notice that many clubs use the average of this rating over three
races to calculate their PBH in a spread sheet. Are there any plans to
incorporate the spread sheet function into sailwave ie. automatically
calculate the average rating needed to win over the previous three(or any
number) races and insert in into the "override with" rating box? This would
provide an excellent PBH rating and scoring system in one. I will be trying
to convince our club to change to this system next season. In this case I
would not need to worry about the custom formula.
The current sailwave program was terrific with our last regatta. It was
worth having just for that. I am still anticipating becoming a sponsor
because as the handicapper and scorer, I can see the value in this program.
I will let you know how I get on.
Thanks again.
Regards
Greg
···
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <gmrlbrown@shoal.net.au>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:58 PM
Subject: [sailwave] PBH rating
Hi Greg
> We use a simple whole minute system where we
> add (or subtract) the PBH to/from the
> elapsed time to get a result.The board ate your attachment so I can't see you formula but if I
understand
you correctly, the formula would be something like:-
e + r*60
Where the rating values are in minutes and signed. Thu multiplication by
60
is needed because at the point the rating system is evaluated, all times
are
in seconds. On your other point, I'm not sure I understand it as in my
head
(which is iften wonky) one records finish times or positions but not both.
Can you explain further.Regards,
Colin Jenkins
www.sailwave.com-----Original Message-----
From: greg brown [mailto:gmrlbrown@shoal.net.au]
Sent: 06 January 2004 12:19
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: disasterHello Collin,
I am sorry to hear about the problems you are having
with the development computer for sail wave. First off, please let me
introduce myself and the club. I am involved with a small trailer sailer
club on the South Coast of NSW in Australia. (About 200 ks south of
Sydney). We race on St Georges Basin adjacent Jervis Bay. Most of our
members have retired from the workforce. (average age is about 65, our
oldest is 80). We only have about 20 boats on our books with normal fleet
sizes from 8 to 14. We don't have a club house or rescue boat and rely on
the genorosity on some of the members to assist with these needs with a
private boat and water front property for social gatherings after the
races.
Given that most of our members are aged, our races are cancelled when wind
strengths exceed 25 kts. We usually loose half of our races before
christmas when we experience frequent 25 kt north easters.
I have recently been given the task of handicaper and scorer. This can be
a
painful experience trying to do it all the old fashion way especially for
a
regatta. I was trying to set up an Excel spreadsheet to assist when I was
told about your program. I have had a quick look at your program and I am
very impressed with what you have done so far. I still have a little bit
to
learn on getting the most out of the program. eg. I am currently trying
to
work out how to include PBH results by using the custom formula. We use a
simple whole minute system where we add (or subtract) the PBH to/from the
elapsed time to get a result. Unfortunately I cant get the program to
recognise the formula. I have attached a screen print of the formula I
have
atempted to use. Essentially I was hoping to be able to use this program
to
record all starting and finishing times, and positions. When I publish
the
results, I would like to include the times. I cant do this if I select a
position.
Can the program cater for this type of PBH?
I know a handicapping capability is not currently included but is there
any
intention to include this capability in the future?
I think you have done an excellent job on this program so far and it seems
to work exceptionally well for CBH racing but unfortunately most of our
races are based on a PBH. I am going to trial the program with our
regatta
next weekend. When I fully understand the workings of the program and the
benefits to the club, I will discuss with the committee, the possibility
of
a donation to assist with further development .
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for the opportunity to
trial your program and will pass it on to other clubs on our area. Many of
the other visiting club members will see it in action as I am hoping to
have
a lap top set up in the officials tent.
If you know of any handicapping programs that will work in well with your
program, please let me know. Hope to hear from you soon.Regards
Greg----- Original Message -----
From: <colin@sailwave.com>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:54 AM
Subject: [sailwave] Re: disaster> it's worse than that. the backbups seem to be corrupted. as it
> stands sailwave doesn't exist in a development form; i may have to
> start again... happy xmas. cj.
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, colin@s... wrote:
> > I have had a catastrophic crash of my development machine and lost
> > all current development, which was significant stuff - real big
> > changes to infrastructure; I'll be out of the loop for a while.
> > Writing this on-line from my kids' computer...
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> > CJ
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Hi Greg,
Thanks for your response. I tried your formula (c=e+r*60) but I am
still getting an error message. It says "Corrected time is being evaluated
as 0" . See Attachment.<
Make sure the c= part is not part of the formula. Other then that send me
the series and I'll have a look at it for you.
I have been reading all the other emails on the site. For a lot of
reasons,
I prefer the rating needed to win system that others are using to calculate
a PBH. I notice that many clubs use the average of this rating over three
races to calculate their PBH in a spread sheet. Are there any plans to
incorporate the spread sheet function into sailwave ie. automatically
calculate the average rating needed to win over the previous three(or any
number) races and insert in into the "override with" rating box? This would
provide an excellent PBH rating and scoring system in one. I will be trying
to convince our club to change to this system next season. In this case I
would not need to worry about the custom formula.
The current sailwave program was terrific with our last regatta. It was
worth having just for that. I am still anticipating becoming a sponsor
because as the handicapper and scorer, I can see the value in this program.
I will let you know how I get on.
Thanks again.<
There is a PH release planned but it's some way down the line at it stands.
I'll think about the BCH method and see if I can do somehting sooner. See
www.sailwave.com for dev plan.
Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <gmrlbrown@shoal.net.au>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:58 PM
Subject: [sailwave] PBH rating
Hi Greg
> We use a simple whole minute system where we
> add (or subtract) the PBH to/from the
> elapsed time to get a result.The board ate your attachment so I can't see you formula but if I
understand
you correctly, the formula would be something like:-
e + r*60
Where the rating values are in minutes and signed. Thu multiplication by
60
is needed because at the point the rating system is evaluated, all times
are
in seconds. On your other point, I'm not sure I understand it as in my
head
(which is iften wonky) one records finish times or positions but not both.
Can you explain further.Regards,
Colin Jenkins
www.sailwave.com-----Original Message-----
From: greg brown [mailto:gmrlbrown@shoal.net.au]
Sent: 06 January 2004 12:19
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: disasterHello Collin,
I am sorry to hear about the problems you are having
with the development computer for sail wave. First off, please let me
introduce myself and the club. I am involved with a small trailer sailer
club on the South Coast of NSW in Australia. (About 200 ks south of
Sydney). We race on St Georges Basin adjacent Jervis Bay. Most of our
members have retired from the workforce. (average age is about 65, our
oldest is 80). We only have about 20 boats on our books with normal fleet
sizes from 8 to 14. We don't have a club house or rescue boat and rely on
the genorosity on some of the members to assist with these needs with a
private boat and water front property for social gatherings after the
races.
Given that most of our members are aged, our races are cancelled when wind
strengths exceed 25 kts. We usually loose half of our races before
christmas when we experience frequent 25 kt north easters.
I have recently been given the task of handicaper and scorer. This can be
a
painful experience trying to do it all the old fashion way especially for
a
regatta. I was trying to set up an Excel spreadsheet to assist when I was
told about your program. I have had a quick look at your program and I am
very impressed with what you have done so far. I still have a little bit
to
learn on getting the most out of the program. eg. I am currently trying
to
work out how to include PBH results by using the custom formula. We use a
simple whole minute system where we add (or subtract) the PBH to/from the
elapsed time to get a result. Unfortunately I cant get the program to
recognise the formula. I have attached a screen print of the formula I
have
atempted to use. Essentially I was hoping to be able to use this program
to
record all starting and finishing times, and positions. When I publish
the
results, I would like to include the times. I cant do this if I select a
position.
Can the program cater for this type of PBH?
I know a handicapping capability is not currently included but is there
any
intention to include this capability in the future?
I think you have done an excellent job on this program so far and it seems
to work exceptionally well for CBH racing but unfortunately most of our
races are based on a PBH. I am going to trial the program with our
regatta
next weekend. When I fully understand the workings of the program and the
benefits to the club, I will discuss with the committee, the possibility
of
a donation to assist with further development .
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for the opportunity to
trial your program and will pass it on to other clubs on our area. Many of
the other visiting club members will see it in action as I am hoping to
have
a lap top set up in the officials tent.
If you know of any handicapping programs that will work in well with your
program, please let me know. Hope to hear from you soon.Regards
Greg----- Original Message -----
From: <colin@sailwave.com>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:54 AM
Subject: [sailwave] Re: disaster> it's worse than that. the backbups seem to be corrupted. as it
> stands sailwave doesn't exist in a development form; i may have to
> start again... happy xmas. cj.
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, colin@s... wrote:
> > I have had a catastrophic crash of my development machine and lost
> > all current development, which was significant stuff - real big
> > changes to infrastructure; I'll be out of the loop for a while.
> > Writing this on-line from my kids' computer...
> >
> > CJ
>
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Hi all,
I have been further pondering this series of emails since my previous
message.
The problem with using the value that Sailwave calculates, i.e Rating to Win
(RWin), is that it is I believe only meaningful in the context of the actual
race in question. It and the EWin value are nice indicators to competitors
of what they would have had to do in that race to come joint first and from
Colin's point of view I suspect quite easy to calculate.
At my club, Datchet Water SC we have a very wide range of sailing
capabilities from world champions to new to racing and the exact mix on any
one day can be very varied in terms of number of boats racing, classes of
boat racing and the skill level. I suspect other clubs have similar
diversity of sailing capability. So what I believe is necessary is to
calculate Personal Handicap (PH) values based on a 'middle' band of
competitors in a race. I have in the past proposed that the UK National
Authority, the RYA, change their calculation procedure from the top
two-thirds of competitors to the middle two-thirds. I note that in some
planned RYA documentation, in support of their publication YR2, on
calculating handicap values they are suggesting that 'maverick' performers
are excluded and that these can be considered the top sixth and the bottom
sixth as long as there are at least 10 boats in the middle band. It is
actually more mathematical than that if one has spreadsheets and calculators
with statistical functions, i.e. using standard deviations.
In another thread Ralph Tingle suggested that things might be getting to
complicated. So perhaps Colin needs to develop plug-ins to support
different requirements like the RYA Annual Return, the US Sailing Annual
return, a PH system based on RWin, a PH system based on the methods
documented in the RYA publication YR2 etc. OR to provide another separate
piece of software to do the PH and Annual Return calculations which is
linked to Sailwave in some manner. The other application I referred to in
my previous posting does not use a text file for storing its data but a
database. Colin has also suggested in the past two versions of Sailwave,
one a fairly simple package dedicated to individual race results and series
calculations based on one value for a handicap rating and a second more
functional version providing additional facilities like PH, Annual Returns
etc. I suggest that simpler version would be used by clubs for there duty
race team to use and the more advanced version would be used by the club
handicap officer or committee to do the more advanced analysis. It might be
that a password or some other protection mechanism allows access to the more
functional areas for those who have the inclination and wish to understand
the more technical aspects.
Just some thoughts from someone who is interested in Sailwave continuing to
have the ease of use for the newcomer or those how do not want to make use
of more enhanced facilities and providing those enhanced capabilities for
those who are interested or need them.
Keep up the good work Colin.
Kind regards,
Huw Pearce
WebMaster, Datchet Water Sailing Club
www www.dwsc.co.uk
e-mail webmaster@dwsc.co.uk
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