We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and participate in fewer events.
For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?
Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits that have changed from the previous finish time)
thanks,
PMB
ABYC Toronto
First question, simple answer
Edit > Mark unsailed competitors as excluded
It means also that you could have to include some of these later...
Phil DE TROY
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Brennan" <p_m_brennan@yahoo.ca>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:58 PM
Subject: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and participate in fewer events.
For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?
Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits that have changed from the previous finish time)
thanks,
PMB
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Unless you are using rule A9 or have specified a similar provision with your NOR and SI’s, DNC’s will impact the score of boats that come to the starting area, but do not start, do not finish, retire after finishing or are disqualified. If you hide the DNC boats result for that race DNS, OCS, DNF, RAF, etc. boats will not be able to understand how they are being scored.
If you use the real time scoring feature of Sailwave it will enter the time for you, otherwise I am not aware of a feature in sailwave.
From: Paul Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:58 AM
Subject: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and participate in fewer events.
For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?
Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits that have changed from the previous finish time)
thanks,
PMB
ABYC Toronto
Forgot to mention, I’m in the race right now taking the results…
All the info including NOR can be found here: http://www.optinam2009.org
Regards,
Manuel
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July
3, 2009 1:24:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Unless you are using rule A9 or have specified a similar provision with your NOR and SI’s, DNC’s will impact the score of boats that come to the starting area, but do not start, do not finish, retire after finishing or are disqualified. If you hide the DNC boats result for that race DNS, OCS, DNF, RAF, etc. boats will not be able to understand how they are being scored.
If you use the real time scoring feature of Sailwave it will enter the time for you, otherwise I am not aware of a feature in sailwave.
From: Paul Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:58 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and participate in fewer events.
For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?
Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits that have changed from the previous finish time)
thanks,
PMB
ABYC Toronto
It is important to understand the definitions of the terms used by Sailwave.
Fleet A group of boats that will sail and be scored
together, they can be a one design class, or different boats using a handicap or rating system. Portsmouth, PHRF, or IRC would be a fleet made up of several different classes of boats using a handicap or rating system. Conversely Naples Sabots, or Optimists may be broken up into several different fleets, As, Bs, Cs etc. flights, Blue, Yellow, Purple, etc. or Divisions, Men and Women.
Class The type of boat all carrying the same class insignia per rule G1.1(a). Farr 40, 49er, Snipe, Cal 20, Naples Sabot, Optimist, etc.
Division Generally used to further divides fleets. For example, Olympic 470 Men and Women often sail in a combined fleet, and are scored combined, with the division indicating Men and Women.
Flights A flight is a competitor attribute that changes on a per race basis, and who is sailing who can change each race.
In reading your SI’s you are using flights rather than divisions. That is who is sailing who changes each race.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:36 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I’m a bit confused… is there a phone that I can call you?? or do you have Skype ??
I can send you the details of what I’ve done ?? the file (attached), maybe you can help me.
The thing is that we practice with Sailwave and the webmaster configure the webpage so It can received XML docs and do some ranking updates.
But I did not know that the races were going to be combined with colors and it’s driving me nuts.
I had to use St. Pete scorer yesterday buit honestly I don’t like it.
Please let me know.
REgards,
Manuel
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 1:24:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Unless you are using rule A9 or have specified a similar provision with your NOR and SI’s, DNC’s will impact the score of boats that come to the starting area, but do not start, do not finish, retire after finishing or are disqualified. If you hide the DNC boats result for that race DNS, OCS, DNF, RAF, etc. boats will not be able to understand how they are being scored.
If you use the real time scoring feature of Sailwave it will enter the time for you, otherwise I am not aware of a feature in sailwave.
From: Paul Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:58 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and participate in fewer events.
For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?
Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits that have changed from the previous finish time)
thanks,
PMB
ABYC Toronto
In looking at the last file you sent, you have the boats divided into divisions not flights. Flights allow multiple 1st, 2nd, 3rd, Divisions do not.
Do the boats stay in the same flight through out the regatta? Once in the blue flight does the boat remain in the blue flight until the end of the regatta, or does the boat change flights each night, day one blue, day two tangerine, day three iron, etc.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:52 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I did have it as Divisions but I change everything to Flights but I just don’t get the flights…
I have more results for today that I have to post and I’m into incredible pressure from everybody at this moment.
The total amount is taking the whole flleet instead of calculating each group of 2 color “flights”.
Can you help!! please!!!, can I send you again what I have and you corrected it so I can post it!!?
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com; sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 2:41:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
It is important to understand the definitions of the terms used by Sailwave.
Fleet – A group of boats that will sail and be scor ed together, they can be a one design class, or different boats using a handicap or rating system. Portsmouth , PHRF, or IRC would be a fleet made up of several different classes of boats using a handicap or rating system. Conversely Naples Sabots, or Optimists may be broken up into several different fleets, A’s, B’s, C’s etc. flights, Blue, Yellow, Purple, etc. or Divisions, Men and Women.
Class – The type of boat all carrying the same class insignia per rule G1.1(a). Farr 40, 49er, Snipe, Cal 20, Naples Sabot, Optimist, etc.
Division – Generally us ed to further divides fleets. For example, Olympic 470 Men and Women often sail in a combined fleet, and are scored combined, with the division indicating Men and Women.
Flights – A flight is a competitor attribute that changes on a per race basis, and who is sailing who can change each race.
In reading your SI’s you are using flights rather than divisions. That is who is sailing who changes each race.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:36 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I’m a bit confused… is there a phone that I can call you?? or do you have Skype ??
I can send you the details of what I’ve done ?? the file (attached), maybe you can help me.
The thing is that we practice with Sailwave and the webmaster configure the webpage so It can received XML docs and do some ranking updates.
But I did not know that the races were going to be combined with colors and it’s driving me nuts.
I had to use St. Pete scorer yesterday buit honestly I don’t like it.
Please let me know.
REgards,
Manuel
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 1:24:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Unless you are using rule A9 or have specified a similar provision with your NOR and SI’s, DNC’s will impact the score of boats that come to the starting area, but do not start, do not finish, retire after finishing or are disqualified. If you hide the DNC boats result for that race DNS, OCS, DNF, RAF, etc. boats will not be able to understand how they are being scored.
If you use the real time scoring feature of Sailwave it will enter the time for you, otherwise I am not aware of a feature in sailwave.
From: Paul Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:58 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and participate in fewer events.
For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?
Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits that have changed from the previous finish time)
thanks,
PMB
ABYC Toronto
Attached is a revised file, which appears to be scored correctly. I made the following change
Using the Edit Race tool, I changed the starts to flights from fleets.
Using the Edit Scoring Codes dialog, I changed the scoring codes for DNF, DNC to a fixed number of points, 68 the max start size, it was the number of competitors in the series (event).
Below are the screen shots from Sailwave.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 1:29 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
I guess it would be flights then.
I’ve attached the last page of the NOR so you can see the schedule of the races and let me know some feedback.
The DNS, OSC, DNF etc should be the sum of the larger flight +1
Ej. WHITE 60 + GREEN 59 = DNF(61)
Now I have three races which shows a letter before the number but when I change it to score it shows fine.
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com; sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 4:01:40 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
In looking at the last file you sent, you have the boats divided into divisions not flights. Flights allow multiple 1st, 2nd, 3rd, Divisions do not.
Do the boats stay in the same flight through out the regatta? Once in the blue flight does the boat remain in the blue flight until the end of the regatta, or does the boat change flights each night, day one blue, day two tangerine, day three iron, etc.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:52 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I did have it as Divisions but I change everything to Flights but I just don’t get the flights…
I have more results for today that I have to post and I’m into incredible pressure from everybody at this moment.
The total amount is taking the whole flleet instead of calculating each group of 2 color “flights”.
Can you help!! please!!!, can I send you again what I have and you corrected it so I can post it!!?
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com; sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 2:41:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
It is important to understand the definitions of the terms used by Sailwave.
Fleet – A group of boats that will sail and be scor ed together, they can be a one design class, or different boats using a handicap or rating system. Portsmouth , PHRF, or IRC would be a fleet made up of several different classes of boats using a handicap or rating system. Conversely Naples Sabots, or Optimists may be broken up into several different fleets, A’s, B’s, C’s etc. flights, Blue, Yellow, Purple, etc. or Divisions, Men and Women.
Class – The type of boat all carrying the same class insignia per rule G1.1(a). Farr 40, 49er, Snipe, Cal 20, Naples Sabot, Optimist, etc.
Division – Generally us ed to further divides fleets. For example, Olympic 470 Men and Women often sail in a combined fleet, and are scored combined, with the division indicating Men and Women.
Flights – A flight is a competitor attribute that changes on a per race basis, and who is sailing who can change each race.
In reading your SI’s you are using flights rather than divisions. That is who is sailing who changes each race.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:36 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I’m a bit confused… is there a phone that I can call you?? or do you have Skype ??
I can send you the details of what I’ve done ?? the file (attached), maybe you can help me.
The thing is that we practice with Sailwave and the webmaster configure the webpage so It can received XML docs and do some ranking updates.
But I did not know that the races were going to be combined with colors and it’s driving me nuts.
I had to use St. Pete scorer yesterday buit honestly I don’t like it.
Please let me know.
REgards,
Manuel
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 1:24:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Unless you are using rule A9 or have specified a similar provision with your NOR and SI’s, DNC’s will impact the score of boats that come to the starting area, but do not start, do not finish, retire after finishing or are disqualified. If you hide the DNC boats result for that race DNS, OCS, DNF, RAF, etc. boats will not be able to understand how they are being scored.
If you use the real time scoring feature of Sailwave it will enter the time for you, otherwise I am not aware of a feature in sailwave.
From: Paul Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:58 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and participate in fewer events.
For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?
Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits that have changed from the previous finish time)
thanks,
PMB
ABYC Toronto
Attached is the xml file for today’s results… I just ran the extract for you, didn’t check any of the results, however I suspect you have 198 competitors doing that for you already.
Don’t know if anyone else in the group has had a problem with the xml feature.
From: Manolo
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 3:40 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I’m trying to export the file as .XML but it crashes every time, I have installed the old version v.7 and the old one v.6 to test it but nothing!!..
I need it for the webpage rankings feature, can you please process it for me and send it back ??
THanks,
Regards…
Manuel (Manolo)
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 7:41:03 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Send it to me, I will take a look at it… I think I have the first three races scored correctly.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:52 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I did have it as Divisions but I change everything to Flights but I just don’t get the flights…
I have more results for today that I have to post and I’m into incredible pressure from everybody at this moment.
The total amount is taking the whole flleet instead of calculating each group of 2 color “flights”.
Can you help!! please!!!, can I send you again what I have and you corrected it so I can post it!!?
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com; sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 2:41:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
It is important to understand the definitions of the terms used by Sailwave.
Fleet – A group of boats that will sail and be scor ed together, they can be a one design class, or different boats using a handicap or rating system. Portsmouth , PHRF, or IRC would be a fleet made up of several different classes of boats using a handicap or rating system. Conversely Naples Sabots, or Optimists may be broken up into several different fleets, A’s, B’s, C’s etc. flights, Blue, Yellow, Purple, etc. or Divisions, Men and Women.
Class – The type of boat all carrying the same class insignia per rule G1.1(a). Farr 40, 49er, Snipe, Cal 20, Naples Sabot, Optimist, etc.
Division – Generally us ed to further divides fleets. For example, Olympic 470 Men and Women often sail in a combined fleet, and are scored combined, with the division indicating Men and Women.
Flights – A flight is a competitor attribute that changes on a per race basis, and who is sailing who can change each race.
In reading your SI’s you are using flights rather than divisions. That is who is sailing who changes each race.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:36 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I’m a bit confused… is there a phone that I can call you?? or do you have Skype ??
I can send you the details of what I’ve done ?? the file (attached), maybe you can help me.
The thing is that we practice with Sailwave and the webmaster configure the webpage so It can received XML docs and do some ranking updates.
But I did not know that the races were going to be combined with colors and it’s driving me nuts.
I had to use St. Pete scorer yesterday buit honestly I don’t like it.
Please let me know.
REgards,
Manuel
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 1:24:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Unless you are using rule A9 or have specified a similar provision with your NOR and SI’s, DNC’s will impact the score of boats that come to the starting area, but do not start, do not finish, retire after finishing or are disqualified. If you hide the DNC boats result for that race DNS, OCS, DNF, RAF, etc. boats will not be able to understand how they are being scored.
If you use the real time scoring feature of Sailwave it will enter the time for you, otherwise I am not aware of a feature in sailwave.
From: Paul Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:58 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and participate in fewer events.
For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?
Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits that have changed from the previous finish time)
thanks,
PMB
ABYC Toronto
I think the attached is displayed in the manner you want. I changed the display to “Scored Points” and then published using the Volvo template.
The xml file still looks wrong. It is not a feature I have used before, we just publish the html page. I have copied the user group to see if anyone knows how to resolve the problem for you.
Mark Townsend
Alamitos Bay Y.C.
California USA
From: Manolo
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 4:31 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Thanks a lot, I’m having trouble presenting the html file because of the finishes, I need the finishing points but I get it right when I see it in Finishes (place/elapsed-time/finish-time/code).
Please see attached… how can I get the letter behind the number to not show ??
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:20:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Attached is the XML file you requested.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:29 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
Uff what a day!!!, I’m sending you a copy with your corrections to so you can take a look and confirm them to me.
I replace the Fleet column with nothing because I don’t need it anymore.
I need a favor from you though, I need that file in .XML format so I can upload it to the web page for some ranking feature. When I do it on my computer and some other ones that I have here it show’s and error and it does not complete the export. Can you please do it and sent it back the .XML ???
Thanks a million!!
Manuel (Manolo)
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 7:41:03 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Send it to me, I will take a look at it… I think I have the first three races scored correctly.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:52 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I did have it as Divisions but I change everything to Flights but I just don’t get the flights…
I have more results for today that I have to post and I’m into incredible pressure from everybody at this moment.
The total amount is taking the whole flleet instead of calculating each group of 2 color “flights”.
Can you help!! please!!!, can I send you again what I have and you corrected it so I can post it!!?
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com; sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 2:41:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
It is important to understand the definitions of the terms used by Sailwave.
Fleet – A group of boats that will sail and be scor ed together, they can be a one design class, or different boats using a handicap or rating system. Portsmouth , PHRF, or IRC would be a fleet made up of several different classes of boats using a handicap or rating system. Conversely Naples Sabots, or Optimists may be broken up into several different fleets, A’s, B’s, C’s etc. flights, Blue, Yellow, Purple, etc. or Divisions, Men and Women.
Class – The type of boat all carrying the same class insignia per rule G1.1(a). Farr 40, 49er, Snipe, Cal 20, Naples Sabot, Optimist, etc.
Division – Generally us ed to further divides fleets. For example, Olympic 470 Men and Women often sail in a combined fleet, and are scored combined, with the division indicating Men and Women.
Flights – A flight is a competitor attribute that changes on a per race basis, and who is sailing who can change each race.
In reading your SI’s you are using flights rather than divisions. That is who is sailing who changes each race.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:36 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I’m a bit confused… is there a phone that I can call you?? or do you have Skype ??
I can send you the details of what I’ve done ?? the file (attached), maybe you can help me.
The thing is that we practice with Sailwave and the webmaster configure the webpage so It can received XML docs and do some ranking updates.
But I did not know that the races were going to be combined with colors and it’s driving me nuts.
I had to use St. Pete scorer yesterday buit honestly I don’t like it.
Please let me know.
REgards,
Manuel
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 1:24:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Unless you are using rule A9 or have specified a similar provision with your NOR and SI’s, DNC’s will impact the score of boats that come to the starting area, but do not start, do not finish, retire after finishing or are disqualified. If you hide the DNC boats result for that race DNS, OCS, DNF, RAF, etc. boats will not be able to understand how they are being scored.
If you use the real time scoring feature of Sailwave it will enter the time for you, otherwise I am not aware of a feature in sailwave.
From: Paul Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:58 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and participate in fewer events.
For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?
Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits that have changed from the previous finish time)
thanks,
PMB
ABYC Toronto
Mark, on the file that you send using the Volvo template it is wrong… please check competitor BER 1016 on rank no.19, the Finishing place should be 26 and when you publish it , changes back to 25. That is what I was telling you about. If you change a competitor score and you use the Finishes (place/elapsed-time/finish-time/code) it looks ok but with a letter in front. When you change it to score it changes the number to 25… it should read 26.
I’ll be here waiting for you so I can post it, it is urgent that I post this asap, I have 198 competitors and family waiting, plus press…
THnaks,
Manolo
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Cc: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:56:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times? [1 Attachment]
I think the attached is displayed in the manner you want. I changed the display to “Scored Points” and then published using the Volvo template.
The xml file still looks wrong. It is not a feature I have used before, we just publish the html page. I have copied the user group to see if anyone knows how to resolve the problem for you.
Mark Townsend
Alamitos Bay Y.C.
California USA
From: Manolo
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 4:31 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Thanks a lot, I’m having trouble presenting the html file because of the finishes, I need the finishing points but I get it right when I see it in Finishes (place/elapsed- time/finish- time/code) .
Please see attached… how can I get the letter behind the number to not show ??
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:20:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Attached is the XML file you requested.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:29 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
Uff what a day!!!, I’m sending you a copy with your corrections to so you can take a look and confirm them to me.
I replace the Fleet column with nothing because I don’t need it anymore.
I need a favor from you though, I need that file in .XML format so I can upload it to the web page for some ranking feature. When I do it on my computer and some other ones that I have here it show’s and error and it does not complete the export. Can you please do it and sent it back the .XML ???
Thanks a million!!
Manuel (Manolo)
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 7:41:03 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Send it to me, I will take a look at it… I think I have the first three races scored correctly.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:52 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I did have it as Divisions but I change everything to Flights but I just don’t get the flights…
I have more results for today that I have to post and I’m into incredible pressure from everybody at this moment.
The total amount is taking the whole flleet instead of calculating each group of 2 color “flights”.
Can you help!! please!!!, can I send you again what I have and you corrected it so I can post it!!?
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com; sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 2:41:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
It is important to understand the definitions of the terms used by Sailwave.
Fleet – A group of boats that will sail and be scor ed together, they can be a one design class, or different boats using a handicap or rating system. Portsmouth , PHRF, or IRC would be a fleet made up of several different classes of boats using a handicap or rating system. Conversely Naples Sabots, or Optimists may be broken up into several different fleets, A’s, B’s, C’s etc. flights, Blue, Yellow, Purple, etc. or Divisions, Men and Women.
Class – The type of boat all carrying the same class insignia per rule G1.1(a). Farr 40, 49er, Snipe, Cal 20, Naples Sabot, Optimist, etc.
Division – Generally us ed to further divides fleets. For example, Olympic 470 Men and Women often sail in a combined fleet, and are scored combined, with the division indicating Men and Women.
Flights – A flight is a competitor attribute that changes on a per race basis, and who is sailing who can change each race.
In reading your SI’s you are using flights rather than divisions. That is who is sailing who changes each race.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:36 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I’m a bit confused… is there a phone that I can call you?? or do you have Skype ??
I can send you the details of what I’ve done ?? the file (attached), maybe you can help me.
The thing is that we practice with Sailwave and the webmaster configure the webpage so It can received XML docs and do some ranking updates.
But I did not know that the races were going to be combined with colors and it’s driving me nuts.
I had to use St. Pete scorer yesterday buit honestly I don’t like it.
Please let me know.
REgards,
Manuel
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 1:24:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Unless you are using rule A9 or have specified a similar provision with your NOR and SI’s, DNC’s will impact the score of boats that come to the starting area, but do not start, do not finish, retire after finishing or are disqualified. If you hide the DNC boats result for that race DNS, OCS, DNF, RAF, etc. boats will not be able to understand how they are being scored.
If you use the real time scoring feature of Sailwave it will enter the time for you, otherwise I am not aware of a feature in sailwave.
From: Paul Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:58 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and participate in fewer events.
For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?
Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits that have changed from the previous finish time)
thanks,
PMB
ABYC Toronto
I am not clear what penalty the Jury applied. Your note says:
In Race 1B BER 1016 should be scored place + 20 points. What was BER 1016 finishing position?
In Race 3A BER 1035 should be scored place + 20 points. What was BER 1035 finishing position?
I don’t see where you have used scoring codes for either of these boats.
You need to create a new scoring code, SCP+20, defined as place + 20 points, see screen shot below. Use this to apply the penalty to the two boats from Bermuda. If you change there finish place you will start changing the position of other boats in the series, which is not what you want.
From: Manolo
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 4:45 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Yes! I did that but it changes the score on a competitor that had a penalty imposed by a judge… on RACE 1B, BER 1016 and on Race 3A, BER 1035… they were both added 20 points penalty originally.
Let me know…
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:39:45 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Display “Scored Points” not finish place, see the attached screen shot.
From: Manolo
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 4:31 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Thanks a lot, I’m having trouble presenting the html file because of the finishes, I need the finishing points but I get it right when I see it in Finishes (place/elapsed-time/finish-time/code).
Please see attached… how can I get the letter behind the number to not show ??
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:20:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Attached is the XML file you requested.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:29 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
Uff what a day!!!, I’m sending you a copy with your corrections to so you can take a look and confirm them to me.
I replace the Fleet column with nothing because I don’t need it anymore.
I need a favor from you though, I need that file in .XML format so I can upload it to the web page for some ranking feature. When I do it on my computer and some other ones that I have here it show’s and error and it does not complete the export. Can you please do it and sent it back the .XML ???
Thanks a million!!
Manuel (Manolo)
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 7:41:03 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Send it to me, I will take a look at it… I think I have the first three races scored correctly.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:52 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I did have it as Divisions but I change everything to Flights but I just don’t get the flights…
I have more results for today that I have to post and I’m into incredible pressure from everybody at this moment.
The total amount is taking the whole flleet instead of calculating each group of 2 color “flights”.
Can you help!! please!!!, can I send you again what I have and you corrected it so I can post it!!?
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com; sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 2:41:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
It is important to understand the definitions of the terms used by Sailwave.
Fleet – A group of boats that will sail and be scor ed together, they can be a one design class, or different boats using a handicap or rating system. Portsmouth , PHRF, or IRC would be a fleet made up of several different classes of boats using a handicap or rating system. Conversely Naples Sabots, or Optimists may be broken up into several different fleets, A’s, B’s, C’s etc. flights, Blue, Yellow, Purple, etc. or Divisions, Men and Women.
Class – The type of boat all carrying the same class insignia per rule G1.1(a). Farr 40, 49er, Snipe, Cal 20, Naples Sabot, Optimist, etc.
Division – Generally us ed to further divides fleets. For example, Olympic 470 Men and Women often sail in a combined fleet, and are scored combined, with the division indicating Men and Women.
Flights – A flight is a competitor attribute that changes on a per race basis, and who is sailing who can change each race.
In reading your SI’s you are using flights rather than divisions. That is who is sailing who changes each race.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:36 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I’m a bit confused… is there a phone that I can call you?? or do you have Skype ??
I can send you the details of what I’ve done ?? the file (attached), maybe you can help me.
The thing is that we practice with Sailwave and the webmaster configure the webpage so It can received XML docs and do some ranking updates.
But I did not know that the races were going to be combined with colors and it’s driving me nuts.
I had to use St. Pete scorer yesterday buit honestly I don’t like it.
Please let me know.
REgards,
Manuel
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 1:24:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Unless you are using rule A9 or have specified a similar provision with your NOR and SI’s, DNC’s will impact the score of boats that come to the starting area, but do not start, do not finish, retire after finishing or are disqualified. If you hide the DNC boats result for that race DNS, OCS, DNF, RAF, etc. boats will not be able to understand how they are being scored.
If you use the real time scoring feature of Sailwave it will enter the time for you, otherwise I am not aware of a feature in sailwave.
From: Paul Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:58 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and participate in fewer events.
For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?
Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits that have changed from the previous finish time)
thanks,
PMB
ABYC Toronto
26th place in the pink blue start? That is why it is changing the score. What position did BER 1016 finish in the first race?
From: Manolo
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Mark, on the file that you send using the Volvo template it is wrong… please check competitor BER 1016 on rank no.19, the Finishing place should be 26 and when you publish it , changes back to 25. That is what I was telling you about. If you change a competitor score and you use the Finishes (place/elapsed-time/finish-time/code) it looks ok but with a letter in front. When you change it to score it changes the number to 25… it should read 26.
I’ll be here waiting for you so I can post it, it is urgent that I post this asap, I have 198 competitors and family waiting, plus press…
THnaks,
Manolo
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Cc:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:56:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times? [1 Attachment]
I think the attached is displayed in the manner you want. I changed the display to “Scored Points” and then published using the Volvo template.
The xml file still looks wrong. It is not a feature I have used before, we just publish the html page. I have copied the user group to see if anyone knows how to resolve the problem for you.
Mark Townsend
Alamitos Bay Y.C.
California USA
From: Manolo
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 4:31 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Thanks a lot, I’m having trouble presenting the html file because of the finishes, I need the finishing points but I get it right when I see it in Finishes (place/elapsed- time/finish- time/code) .
Please see attached… how can I get the letter behind the number to not show ??
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:20:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Attached is the XML file you requested.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:29 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
Uff what a day!!!, I’m sending you a copy with your corrections to so you can take a look and confirm them to me.
I replace the Fleet column with nothing because I don’t need it anymore.
I need a favor from you though, I need that file in .XML format so I can upload it to the web page for some ranking feature. When I do it on my computer and some other ones that I have here it show’s and error and it does not complete the export. Can you please do it and sent it back the .XML ???
Thanks a million!!
Manuel (Manolo)
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 7:41:03 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Send it to me, I will take a look at it… I think I have the first three races scored correctly.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:52 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I did have it as Divisions but I change everything to Flights but I just don’t get the flights…
I have more results for today that I have to post and I’m into incredible pressure from everybody at this moment.
The total amount is taking the whole flleet instead of calculating each group of 2 color “flights”.
Can you help!! please!!!, can I send you again what I have and you corrected it so I can post it!!?
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com; sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 2:41:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
It is important to understand the definitions of the terms used by Sailwave.
Fleet – A group of boats that will sail and be scor ed together, they can be a one design class, or different boats using a handicap or rating system. Portsmouth , PHRF, or IRC would be a fleet made up of several different classes of boats using a handicap or rating system. Conversely Naples Sabots, or Optimists may be broken up into several different fleets, A’s, B’s, C’s etc. flights, Blue, Yellow, Purple, etc. or Divisions, Men and Women.
Class – The type of boat all carrying the same class insignia per rule G1.1(a). Farr 40, 49er, Snipe, Cal 20, Naples Sabot, Optimist, etc.
Division – Generally us ed to further divides fleets. For example, Olympic 470 Men and Women often sail in a combined fleet, and are scored combined, with the division indicating Men and Women.
Flights – A flight is a competitor attribute that changes on a per race basis, and who is sailing who can change each race.
In reading your SI’s you are using flights rather than divisions. That is who is sailing who changes each race.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:36 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I’m a bit confused… is there a phone that I can call you?? or do you have Skype ??
I can send you the details of what I’ve done ?? the file (attached), maybe you can help me.
The thing is that we practice with Sailwave and the webmaster configure the webpage so It can received XML docs and do some ranking updates.
But I did not know that the races were going to be combined with colors and it’s driving me nuts.
I had to use St. Pete scorer yesterday buit honestly I don’t like it.
Please let me know.
REgards,
Manuel
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 1:24:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Unless you are using rule A9 or have specified a similar provision with your NOR and SI’s, DNC’s will impact the score of boats that come to the starting area, but do not start, do not finish, retire after finishing or are disqualified. If you hide the DNC boats result for that race DNS, OCS, DNF, RAF, etc. boats will not be able to understand how they are being scored.
If you use the real time scoring feature of Sailwave it will enter the time for you, otherwise I am not aware of a feature in sailwave.
From: Paul Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:58 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and participate in fewer events.
For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?
Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits that have changed from the previous finish time)
thanks,
PMB
ABYC Toronto
I have not found a way of printing the results for each race. I keep hopping that COLIN will add that feature.
However, you can view them using the “Rearrange recorded places” tool, see the screen shots below. This is how I found some of the anomalies in your results.
Race 1, Start 1A has two 1st place boats.
Race 1, Start 1B has no 6th place boat.
Race 2, Start 2B has two 51st place boats.
Race 3, Start 3A has no 11th place boat.
Race 4, Start 4A has numerous finishes missing 10, 11, 15, 19, 28, 34, 37, 43, 45, 47, 56, 57, and has two boats in 30th place
Race 4, Start 4B has no 3rd place boat.
Race 5, Start 5A has no 4th place boat.
Race 5, Start 5B has two boats in 46th place.
Are you using the Sail Num Wizard to enter the finish positions?
Below is a screen shot of Start 1A showing the two first place boats.
Start 1B
has no 6th place.
From: Manolo
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:39 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hi Mark,
Is there any way to print the flights ?? Ex. The races…
Manuel
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com; Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Cc: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 12:32:05 AM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
26th place in the pink blue start? That is why it is changing the score. What position did BER 1016 finish in the first race?
From: Manolo
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:09 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Mark, on the file that you send using the Volvo template it is wrong… please check competitor BER 1016 on rank no.19, the Finishing place should be 26 and when you publish it , changes back to 25. That is what I was telling you about. If you change a competitor score and you use the Finishes (place/elapsed- time/finish- time/code) it looks ok but with a letter in front. When you change it to score it changes the number to 25… it should read 26.
I’ll be here waiting for you so I can post it, it is urgent that I post this asap, I have 198 competitors and family waiting, plus press…
THnaks,
Manolo
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Cc:
sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:56:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times? [1 Attachment]
I think the attached is displayed in the manner you want. I changed the display to “Scored Points” and then published using the Volvo template.
The xml file still looks wrong. It is not a feature I have used before, we just publish the html page. I have copied the user group to see if anyone knows how to resolve the problem for you.
Mark Townsend
Alamitos Bay Y.C.
California USA
From: Manolo
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 4:31 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Thanks a lot, I’m having trouble presenting the html file because of the finishes, I need the finishing points but I get it right when I see it in Finishes (place/elapsed- time/finish- time/code) .
Please see attached… how can I get the letter behind the number to not show ??
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:20:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Attached is the XML file you requested.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:29 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
Uff what a day!!!, I’m sending you a copy with your corrections to so you can take a look and confirm them to me.
I replace the Fleet column with nothing because I don’t need it anymore.
I need a favor from you though, I need that file in .XML format so I can upload it to the web page for some ranking feature. When I do it on my computer and some other ones that I have here it show’s and error and it does not complete the export. Can you please do it and sent it back the .XML ???
Thanks a million!!
Manuel (Manolo)
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 7:41:03 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Send it to me, I will take a look at it… I think I have the first three races scored correctly.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:52 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I did have it as Divisions but I change everything to Flights but I just don’t get the flights…
I have more results for today that I have to post and I’m into incredible pressure from everybody at this moment.
The total amount is taking the whole flleet instead of calculating each group of 2 color “flights”.
Can you help!! please!!!, can I send you again what I have and you corrected it so I can post it!!?
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com; sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 2:41:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
It is important to understand the definitions of the terms used by Sailwave.
Fleet – A group of boats that will sail and be scor ed together, they can be a one design class, or different boats using a handicap or rating system. Portsmouth , PHRF, or IRC would be a fleet made up of several different classes of boats using a handicap or rating system. Conversely Naples Sabots, or Optimists may be broken up into several different fleets, A’s, B’s, C’s etc. flights, Blue, Yellow, Purple, etc. or Divisions, Men and Women.
Class – The type of boat all carrying the same class insignia per rule G1.1(a). Farr 40, 49er, Snipe, Cal 20, Naples Sabot, Optimist, etc.
Division – Generally us ed to further divides fleets. For example, Olympic 470 Men and Women often sail in a combined fleet, and are scored combined, with the division indicating Men and Women.
Flights – A flight is a competitor attribute that changes on a per race basis, and who is sailing who can change each race.
In reading your SI’s you are using flights rather than divisions. That is who is sailing who changes each race.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:36 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I’m a bit confused… is there a phone that I can call you?? or do you have Skype ??
I can send you the details of what I’ve done ?? the file (attached), maybe you can help me.
The thing is that we practice with Sailwave and the webmaster configure the webpage so It can received XML docs and do some ranking updates.
But I did not know that the races were going to be combined with colors and it’s driving me nuts.
I had to use St. Pete scorer yesterday buit honestly I don’t like it.
Please let me know.
REgards,
Manuel
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 1:24:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Unless you are using rule A9 or have specified a similar provision with your NOR and SI’s, DNC’s will impact the score of boats that come to the starting area, but do not start, do not finish, retire after finishing or are disqualified. If you hide the DNC boats result for that race DNS, OCS, DNF, RAF, etc. boats will not be able to understand how they are being scored.
If you use the real time scoring feature of Sailwave it will enter the time for you, otherwise I am not aware of a feature in sailwave.
From: Paul Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:58 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and participate in fewer events.
For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?
Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits that have changed from the previous finish time)
thanks,
PMB
ABYC Toronto
Colin,
There appears to be a problem with the “Save as an XML file” when you have 198 competitors in flights.
Hhave you added a method to print start results when scoring flights. The current publish race results produces a combined start report.
I sent you the following suggestion last year.
The published results for the individual race starts have the results of the different flight starts inter mixed. For example in Race 2 the Blue vs Red and Green vs Yellow are intermixed, the first boat from the Blue vs Red is followed by the first boat from the Green vs Yellow flight, rather than all the Blue vs Red competitors followed by all the Green vs Yellow competitors.
From: Manolo
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 8:46 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] OPTINAM 2009 Results Problems
Yes that’s how I’m, revising it right now…
Yes I am using the Sail Num wizard to enter the positions. At the beginning I was having trouble because the numbers of the positions were not entering, it stayed in 1. After I reconfigured the flights apparently everything got corrected.
It is a very important feature to add for the printing the Flights for each race. I mean I can look at them but not print them. Odd!!
Thanks for all your help…
From: S. Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com; sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Sunday, July 5, 2009 11:30:45 AM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] OPTINAM 2009 Results Problems
I have not found a way of printing the results for each race. I keep hopping that COLIN will add that feature.
However, you can view them using the “Rearrange recorded places” tool, see the screen shots below. This is how I found some of the anomalies in your results.
Race 1, Start 1A has two 1st place boats.
Race 1, Start 1B has no 6th place boat.
Race 2, Start 2B has two 51st place boats.
Race 3, Start 3A has no 11th place boat.
Race 4, Start 4A has numerous finishes missing 10, 11, 15, 19, 28, 34, 37, 43, 45, 47, 56, 57, and has two boats in 30th place
Race 4, Start 4B has no 3rd place boat.
Race 5, Start 5A has no 4th place boat.
Race 5, Start 5B has two boats in 46th place.
Are you using the Sail Num Wizard to enter the finish positions?
Below is a screen shot of Start 1A showing the two first place boats.
Start 1B
has no 6th place.
From: Manolo
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:39 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hi Mark,
Is there any way to print the flights ?? Ex. The races…
Manuel
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com; Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Cc: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 12:32:05 AM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
26th place in the pink blue start? That is why it is changing the score. What position did BER 1016 finish in the first race?
From: Manolo
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:09 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Mark, on the file that you send using the Volvo template it is wrong… please check competitor BER 1016 on rank no.19, the Finishing place should be 26 and when you publish it , changes back to 25. That is what I was telling you about. If you change a competitor score and you use the Finishes (place/elapsed- time/finish- time/code) it looks ok but with a letter in front. When you change it to score it changes the number to 25… it should read 26.
I’ll be here waiting for you so I can post it, it is urgent that I post this asap, I have 198 competitors and family waiting, plus press…
THnaks,
Manolo
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Cc:
sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent:
Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:56:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times? [1 Attachment]
I think the attached is displayed in the manner you want. I changed the display to “Scored Points” and then published using the Volvo template.
The xml file still looks wrong. It is not a feature I have used before, we just publish the html page. I have copied the user group to see if anyone knows how to resolve the problem for you.
Mark Townsend
Alamitos Bay Y.C.
California USA
From: Manolo
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 4:31 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Thanks a lot, I’m having trouble presenting the html file because of the finishes, I need the finishing points but I get it right when I see it in Finishes (place/elapsed- time/finish- time/code) .
Please see attached… how can I get the letter behind the number to not show ??
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:20:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Attached is the XML file you requested.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:29 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
Uff what a day!!!, I’m sending you a copy with your corrections to so you can take a look and confirm them to me.
I replace the Fleet column with nothing because I don’t need it anymore.
I need a favor from you though, I need that file in .XML format so I can upload it to the web page for some ranking feature. When I do it on my computer and some other ones that I have here it show’s and error and it does not complete the export. Can you please do it and sent it back the .XML ???
Thanks a million!!
Manuel (Manolo)
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 7:41:03 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Send it to me, I will take a look at it… I think I have the first three races scored correctly.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:52 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I did have it as Divisions but I change everything to Flights but I just don’t get the flights…
I have more results for today that I have to post and I’m into incredible pressure from everybody at this moment.
The total amount is taking the whole flleet instead of calculating each group of 2 color “flights”.
Can you help!! please!!!, can I send you again what I have and you corrected it so I can post it!!?
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com; sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent:
Friday, July 3, 2009 2:41:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
It is important to understand the definitions of the terms used by Sailwave.
Fleet – A group of boats that will sail and be scor ed together, they can be a one design class, or different boats using a handicap or rating system. Portsmouth , PHRF, or IRC would be a fleet made up of several different classes of boats using a handicap or rating system. Conversely Naples Sabots, or Optimists may be broken up into several different fleets, A’s, B’s, C’s etc. flights, Blue, Yellow, Purple, etc. or Divisions, Men and Women.
Class – The type of boat all carrying the same class insignia per rule G1.1(a). Farr 40, 49er, Snipe, Cal 20, Naples Sabot, Optimist, etc.
Division – Generally us ed to further divides fleets. For example, Olympic 470 Men and Women often sail in a combined fleet, and are scored combined, with the division indicating Men and Women.
Flights – A flight is a competitor attribute that changes on a per race basis, and who is sailing who can change each race.
In reading your SI’s you are using flights rather than divisions. That is who is sailing who changes each race.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:36 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I’m a bit confused… is there a phone that I can call you?? or do you have Skype ??
I can send you the details of what I’ve done ?? the file (attached), maybe you can help me.
The thing is that we practice with Sailwave and the webmaster configure the webpage so It can received XML docs and do some ranking updates.
But I did not know that the races were going to be combined with colors and it’s driving me nuts.
I had to use St. Pete scorer yesterday buit honestly I don’t like it.
Please let me know.
REgards,
Manuel
From: S. Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 1:24:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Unless you are using rule A9 or have specified a similar provision with your NOR and SI’s, DNC’s will impact the score of boats that come to the starting area, but do not start, do not finish, retire after finishing or are disqualified. If you hide the DNC boats result for that race DNS, OCS, DNF, RAF, etc. boats will not be able to understand how they are being scored.
If you use the real time scoring feature of Sailwave it will enter the time for you, otherwise I am not aware of a feature in sailwave.
From: Paul Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:58 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish times?
We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and participate in fewer events.
For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?
Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits that have changed from the previous finish time)
thanks,
PMB
ABYC Toronto
Manolo,Mark,
I missed all this over the weekend (entertaining mother-in-law -
Sailwave bugs would have been preferable…)
Mark, what feature is missing? - I expect I’ve asked before but…
Manolo - sorry Sailwave let you down in front of the IODA… They
don’t like it in the UK either…
I’ll look at the XML problem…
Colin
Sailwave
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