Hello, I'm so green at using SailWave that I'm hangin' over the side a lot.
Anyway, my big question is: When we do 2 or 3 rolling starts (five
minutes between each start) we take down
every boat's elapsed finish time with the same watch we started the
sequence for the
first start with. This of course means that all boats in the first
start have an extra five minutes elapsed time,
boats in the second start get an extra 10 minutes of elapsed time and so on.
The person scoring the races last year said that this does not matter.
Either the software
adjusts, or it is ok to score boats with extra elapsed time, since it
affects them all.
I have tried to say that we should adjust the elapsed times as we enter
them into the program,
but I'm told I worry too much..
BTW, I'm the VC and have almost qualified for USSA's CRO, just need to
run a few more regattas..
Hi Jack
For the current version, start times for your different starts ('Fleets' - all your entrants need to be in a fleet) are set up using 'Edit', 'Race' - Sailwave sorts everything else out once you tell it what type of timing you are using ('Elapsed' or 'Start / Finish' - sounds like you want the latter). Hope this helps.
Mike Croker
Lancing SC
Jack Kamer wrote:
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Hello, I'm so green at using SailWave that I'm hangin' over the side a lot.
Anyway, my big question is: When we do 2 or 3 rolling starts (five
minutes between each start) we take down
every boat's elapsed finish time with the same watch we started the
sequence for the
first start with. This of course means that all boats in the first
start have an extra five minutes elapsed time,
boats in the second start get an extra 10 minutes of elapsed time and so on.
The person scoring the races last year said that this does not matter.
Either the software
adjusts, or it is ok to score boats with extra elapsed time, since it
affects them all.
I have tried to say that we should adjust the elapsed times as we enter
them into the program,
but I'm told I worry too much..
BTW, I'm the VC and have almost qualified for USSA's CRO, just need to
run a few more regattas..
or it is ok to score boats with extra elapsed time, since it affects them all.<<
This is not correct.
The effect of an extra 5 or 10mins may be marginal but it still gives the wrong result.
Get your person to score a race with an extra 60 mins & see how the results change!!
Suspect someone who lost a race by a couple of seconds on corrected time won't be too happy with
"it's the same for everyone"!!
Re entering start times, have a look at my recent email re Publishing Reports for the RC use
Hello, I'm so green at using SailWave that I'm hangin' over the side a lot.
Anyway, my big question is: When we do 2 or 3 rolling starts (five
minutes between each start) we take down
every boat's elapsed finish time with the same watch we started the
sequence for the
first start with. This of course means that all boats in the first
start have an extra five minutes elapsed time,
boats in the second start get an extra 10 minutes of elapsed time and so on.
The person scoring the races last year said that this does not matter.
Either the software
adjusts, or it is ok to score boats with extra elapsed time, since it
affects them all.
I have tried to say that we should adjust the elapsed times as we enter
them into the program,
but I'm told I worry too much..
BTW, I'm the VC and have almost qualified for USSA's CRO, just need to
run a few more regattas..
Read your question on elapsed time and the response's. Our club does
the same as yours so I wrote an Excel spread sheet that the Race Manager
use's. He prints out the spread sheet and records the elapsed time.
After the race he enters the elapsed time for each yacht and emails to
me. The spread sheet contains the start times for each fleet (currently
3 but could be expanded) and a adjustment time for each fleet. I wrote
some Visual Basic code in the spread sheet to calculate out the actual
finish time and export to Sailwave the race number, fleet, yacht class,
sail number, helm, start time and finish time. It works great for us
although I do agree about other comments in recording GPS time, it hard
to get people to change. I have no problem sharing this with you if you
think it would be helpfull.
Bob Johnson
Hello, I'm so green at using SailWave that I'm hangin' over the side a
lot.
Anyway, my big question is: When we do 2 or 3 rolling starts (five
minutes between each start) we take down
every boat's elapsed finish time with the same watch we started the
sequence for the
first start with. This of course means that all boats in the first
start have an extra five minutes elapsed time,
boats in the second start get an extra 10 minutes of elapsed time and
so on.
The person scoring the races last year said that this does not matter.
Either the software
adjusts, or it is ok to score boats with extra elapsed time, since it
affects them all.
I have tried to say that we should adjust the elapsed times as we
them into the program,
but I'm told I worry too much..
BTW, I'm the VC and have almost qualified for USSA's CRO, just need to
run a few more regattas..
1 - enter your competitors make sure you use one field indicating what start or fleet they are in. I usually call my fleets High, Med, Low. You would probably use Gold and Silver.
2 - When you are ready to enter the results for your first race you:
2a - go to sail number wizard
2b - edit the race (create it first if necessary)
2c - edit Start 1
2d - select competitors for Start 1 (Fleet = Gold)
2e - finishers will be recorded as finish time
2f - input start time for Start 1
2g - enter distance if using PHRF
2h - click OK
2i - new Start (Start 2)
2j - edit Start 2
2k - select competitors for Start 2 (Fleet = Silver)
2l - finisher will be recoreded as finish time
2m - input start time for Start 2
2n - enter distance
2o - click OK
2p - click OK
2q - click Next
2r - start entering times
Read your question on elapsed time and the response’s. Our club does
the same as yours so I wrote an Excel spread sheet that the Race Manager
use’s. He prints out the spread sheet and records the elapsed time.
After the race he enters the elapsed time for each yacht and emails to
me. The spread sheet contains the start times for each fleet (currently
3 but could be expanded) and a adjustment time for each fleet. I wrote
some Visual Basic code in the spread sheet to calculate out the actual
finish time and export to Sailwave the race number, fleet, yacht class,
sail number, helm, start time and finish time. It works great for us
although I do agree about other comments in recording GPS time, it hard
to get people to change. I have no problem sharing this with you if you
think it would be helpfull.
Hello, I’m so green at using SailWave that I’m hangin’ over the side a
lot.
Anyway, my big question is: When we do 2 or 3 rolling starts (five
minutes between each start) we take down
every boat’s elapsed finish time with the same watch we started the
sequence for the
first start with. This of course means that all boats in the first
start have an extra five minutes elapsed time,
boats in the second start get an extra 10 minutes of elapsed time and
so on.
The person scoring the races last year said that this does not matter.
Either the software
adjusts, or it is ok to score boats with extra elapsed time, since it
affects them all.
I have tried to say that we should adjust the elapsed times as we
enter
them into the program,
but I’m told I worry too much…
BTW, I’m the VC and have almost qualified for USSA’s CRO, just need to
run a few more regattas…
Who is correct or what in the h@#$% should I do?
Jack Kamer
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1 - enter your competitors make sure you use one field indicating what start or fleet they are in. I usually call my fleets High, Med, Low. You would probably use Gold and Silver.
2 - When you are ready to enter the results for your first race you:
2a - go to sail number wizard
2b - edit the race (create it first if necessary)
2c - edit Start 1
2d - select competitors for Start 1 (Fleet = Gold)
2e - finishers will be recorded as finish time
2f - input start time for Start 1
2g - enter distance if using PHRF
2h - click OK
2i - new Start (Start 2)
2j - edit Start 2
2k - select competitors for Start 2 (Fleet = Silver)
2l - finisher will be recoreded as finish time
2m - input start time for Start 2
2n - enter distance
2o - click OK
2p - click OK
2q - click Next
2r - start entering times
Read your question on elapsed time and the response's. Our club does
the same as yours so I wrote an Excel spread sheet that the Race Manager
use's. He prints out the spread sheet and records the elapsed time.
After the race he enters the elapsed time for each yacht and emails to
me. The spread sheet contains the start times for each fleet (currently
3 but could be expanded) and a adjustment time for each fleet. I wrote
some Visual Basic code in the spread sheet to calculate out the actual
finish time and export to Sailwave the race number, fleet, yacht class,
sail number, helm, start time and finish time. It works great for us
although I do agree about other comments in recording GPS time, it hard
to get people to change. I have no problem sharing this with you if you
think it would be helpfull.
Hello, I’m so green at using SailWave that I’m hangin’ over the side a
lot.
Anyway, my big question is: When we do 2 or 3 rolling starts (five
minutes between each start) we take down
every boat’s elapsed finish time with the same watch we started the
sequence for the
first start with. This of course means that all boats in the first
start have an extra five minutes elapsed time,
boats in the second start get an extra 10 minutes of elapsed time and
so on.
The person scoring the races last year said that this does not matter.
Either the software
adjusts, or it is ok to score boats with extra elapsed time, since it
affects them all.
I have tried to say that we should adjust the elapsed times as we
enter
them into the program,
but I’m told I worry too much…
BTW, I’m the VC and have almost qualified for USSA’s CRO, just need to
run a few more regattas…
Who is correct or what in the h@#$% should I do?
Jack Kamer
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