I am keen to use the RYA Rules Dispute process, which included the exoneration penalty taken voluntarily after finishing by a boat which broke a rule but didn’t take turns at the time.
The penalty is a 30% scoring penalty (which can be configured) but if making a new code eg EXP. But the RYA guidance also stipulates that the minimum penalty is 3 places and a boat shall not be scored worse than the number of boats that came to the starting area.
Is it possible to set up such a code in Sailwave, or does it just have to be calculated by the Scoring/Racing team and added “freehand” to the results?
If anyone can answer this I would be most grateful.
Aha thanks Mike for pointing out that it is known as a Post-Race penalty as well as Exoneration penalty elsewhere. But I can’t see on Sailwave that there is either EXP or PRP or similar code. Do you think Sailwave is capable of actually working out the penalty, with the provisos stipulated in my earlier post?
It is possible to create the codes EXP, PRP or ARB; the later I
use for highlighting that an Arbitration Penalty has been
accepted.
Sailwave has currently 2 default codes [SCP & ZFP] which
implement a %age penalty. I would highlight one of these and click
new on the Scoring codes tab of Scoring system, and then edit the
new code and change the string to EXA, ARB or PRP as appropriate.
You can then change the %age penalty, and the method used to
calculate the points associated with the code.
Neither of the two standard codes 'award' points greater than
DNF. I am not sure currently about a minimum of 3 places. Ideally
the code would allow one to set the minimum points to be added.
Hope that helps. I am sure Jon who maintains & enhances
Sailwave will respond in more detail. FYI - he made available an
extra method fro determining the points: “* Points for the place
of finishing+ SCP(value) but not more than half the difference
between place and DNF*”
Aha thanks Mike for pointing out that it is known as a
Post-Race penalty as well as Exoneration penalty
elsewhere. But I can’t see on Sailwave that there is
either EXP or PRP or similar code. Do you think Sailwave
is capable of actually working out the penalty, with the
provisos stipulated in my earlier post?
Thank you so much Huw. I see that the method you describe “Points for the place of finishing+ SCP(value) but not more than half the difference between place and DNF” gives a fairer Exoneration penalty, as the RYA Exoneration penalties do stipulate that the final result should not be worse than the number of boats which came to the Start Area. In an irregularly attended series there can be a big difference between the boats in the starting are and the total series entries.
I just wonder if it is possible to set up an Exoneration Penalty code which replicates the RYA Rules Dispute Guidance which is:
The short answer is yes, it should be possible to add a new
method which replicates the RYA Exoneration Penalty code as your
quote below. But that is one for Jon who maintains and enhances
the Sailwave code.
Thanks to Colin the original author and Jon the current person
who maintains / enhances Sailwave, Sailwave has continued to
evolve to meet new scoring challenges. As an example, Jon has
recently been looking at an additional tie break rule for a class
which I know is proving challenging!
describe "* Points for the place of
finishing+ SCP(value) but not more than half the
difference between place and DNF* " gives a fairer
Exoneration penalty, as the RYA Exoneration penalties do
stipulate that the final result should not be worse than
the number of boats which came to the Start Area. In an
irregularly attended series there can be a big
difference between the boats in the starting are and the
total series entries.
I just wonder if
it is possible to set up an Exoneration Penalty code
which replicates the RYA Rules Dispute Guidance which
is:
I’ve just messaged Jon / the website to ask if it might be possible to have a PRP (post race penalty) calculated according to the RYA Dec 2018 guidance.
As the penalty is significantly less than RTD or RAF it would encourage sailors to admit fault after a race (or at least seek advice!)
