finish order??

jrculter · 2 July 2006 15:09

In 1.57 it was pretty easy to print a finish order for combined fleets.
Can't figure out how to do that in 1.93.

Just want a list of boats as they crossed the finishing line, to
compare against the hand-written finish sheets. Any ideas?

I've unscored, flipped the view to finish order -- looks fine on SW
page, but can't make it publish.

Thanks in advance,

John Culter
Vancouver

Huw2 · 2 July 2006 15:45

John,

First you have to score the series then sort on the race column in question, select view by ‘Finishes (place/elapsed-time/finish-time/code)’ then you can publish the results for that race and they come out in ascending order of finish time. Well it does for me with only finish times entered and no laps;-)

Hope this helps,

Kind regards,

Huw

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[sailwave] finish order??

In 1.57 it was pretty easy to print a finish order for combined fleets.
Can’t figure out how to do that in 1.93.

Just want a list of boats as they crossed the finishing line, to
compare against the hand-written finish sheets. Any ideas?

I’ve unscored, flipped the view to finish order – looks fine on SW
page, but can’t make it publish.

Thanks in advance,

John Culter
Vancouver

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jrculter · 3 July 2006 01:24

Huw,

I tried both scored and unscored fleets, sorted on the race 1 column,
which worked fine. Then tried to publish it, but it broke the fleets
into Byte - Laser - Radial when I wanted a single list.

No concept of finish times -- this is OD. Not sure what you mean
about laps. Anyway, can't make it publish. Disappointing.

jrc

John,

First you have to score the series then sort on the race column in

question,

select view by 'Finishes (place/elapsed-time/finish-time/code)' then

you can

publish the results for that race and they come out in ascending

order of

finish time. Well it does for me with only finish times entered and no
laps;-)

Hope this helps,
Kind regards,
Huw
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  In 1.57 it was pretty easy to print a finish order for combined

fleets.

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  Can't figure out how to do that in 1.93.

  Just want a list of boats as they crossed the finishing line, to
  compare against the hand-written finish sheets. Any ideas?

  I've unscored, flipped the view to finish order -- looks fine on SW
  page, but can't make it publish.

  Thanks in advance,

  John Culter
  Vancouver

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Richard2 · 3 July 2006 07:05

jrculter
wrote:

I tried both scored and unscored fleets, sorted on the race 1
column,
which worked fine. Then tried to publish it, but it broke the fleets
into Byte - Laser - Radial when I wanted a single list.

Did you tick “Publish as separate tables” in the Publish dialogue box?

Richard

jrculter · 3 July 2006 16:27

Richard,

Tried all possible combinations, always got the data published by
fleet. Using IE 6.0.2800.1106 on Win2K, all auto updates installed.

What's needed is a facility to print/publish the finish order for any
given race. The process is that a printed finish order list should be
matched against the handwritten finish sheets before you hit the
'score' button. If the two lists match, things are good. If they
don't, best to clear up registration/missing boats/other issues before
worrying about breaking out the fleets. First priority is to match
the actual data sheets.

As previously noted, this was pretty easy in 1.57; now seems
hard/impossible. But we always need to be able to print the actual
finish order, at any time in the process.

I thought we had got that point across a couple of years ago. Otoh,
more or less free software, so . . . .

jrc

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<richard.readings@...> wrote:

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jrculter wrote:

> I tried both scored and unscored fleets, sorted on the race 1 column,
> which worked fine. Then tried to publish it, but it broke the fleets
> into Byte - Laser - Radial when I wanted a single list.
>

Did you tick "Publish as separate tables" in the Publish dialogue box?

Richard

RalphT · 3 July 2006 21:31

Hi JRC

The latest versions of SW definitely print race results in finish time order

I use it for publishing General Handicap results in the order that boats crossed the line.

This is much easier for race team & competitors to check before calculating & publishing corrected times

Could you reply & attach a copy of your problem blw file

This might make it easier to find out what is going wrong

Regards

Ralph

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From: jrculter [mailto:jrculter@medi.net]
Sent: 03 July 2006 17:28
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: finish order??

Richard,

Tried all possible combinations, always got the data published by
fleet. Using IE 6.0.2800.1106 on Win2K, all auto updates installed.

What’s needed is a facility to print/publish the finish order for any
given race. The process is that a printed finish order list should be
matched against the handwritten finish sheets before you hit the
‘score’ button. If the two lists match, things are good. If they
don’t, best to clear up registration/ missing boats/other issues before
worrying about breaking out the fleets. First priority is to match
the actual data sheets.

As previously noted, this was pretty easy in 1.57; now seems
hard/impossible. But we always need to be able to print the actual
finish order, at any time in the process.

I thought we had got that point across a couple of years ago. Otoh,
more or less free software, so . . . .

jrc

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com , Richard Readings
<richard.readings@…> wrote:

jrculter wrote:

I tried both scored and unscored fleets, sorted on the race 1 column,
which worked fine. Then tried to publish it, but it broke the fleets
into Byte - Laser - Radial when I wanted a single list.

Did you tick “Publish as separate tables” in the Publish dialogue box?

Richard

ColinJenkins · 4 July 2006 17:00

Hi jrc,

I thought we had got that point across a couple of years ago. Otoh,

more or less free software, so . . . . <<

Use this procedure for now. Score everybody as one group, sort as required,
publish.

I'll sort it out properly ASAP.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

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RalphT · 6 July 2006 11:36

Hi John

Got your file thanks.

I think your problem may be that you have been scoring groups of competitors separately

This is totally logical as you have 3 classes/fleets racing all in their own starts.

For races 1 - 3, it looks as though you have one single finish sheet with all boats recorded in the order that they crossed the line.

Presume you have then used Sail num wizard to enter the results.

By scoring groups of competitors separately, this has automatically set up the 3 classes to be printed separately.

The solution to your problem is to:

score all competitors as one group
sort on the race you want to check
change the view to ‘Finishes’
publish individual race table for the race in question

When the results are ok, you can then score by group again

From race 4 onwards, you have entered finishing places for each fleet separately, ie 3 1sts, 3 2nds etc etc

This means that the above will just produce rubbish

If you don’t ‘tell’ SW the order in which boats crossed the line, you cannot display/publish that info ;-/

If you have just moved up from 1.57, it is worth spending some time on understanding the different view options & the fact that places(rank) can be different to points

Not sure about the actual circumstances of your RDG(3) query but alternate the view between scored rank (place) & scored points & you might be able to see the light

Hope this has helped

Regards

Ralph

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-----Original Message-----
From: jrculter [mailto:jrculter@medi.net]
Sent: 02 July 2006 16:09
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] finish order??

In 1.57 it was pretty easy to print a finish order for combined fleets.
Can’t figure out how to do that in 1.93.

Just want a list of boats as they crossed the finishing line, to
compare against the hand-written finish sheets. Any ideas?

I’ve unscored, flipped the view to finish order – looks fine on SW
page, but can’t make it publish.

Thanks in advance,

John Culter
Vancouver