Flights then Gold Silver

Hi

Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I could not find it.

We often have a weekend event where the racing is split between the Saturday and the Sunday.
On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who race each other once or more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split into Gold and Silver. The gold sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the silver. The fleets are blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they race on two starts (i.e. race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow vs white)

Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot see how this can be done in Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.

Is it possible without resorting to excel?

If it can be done please can you point out where I go to get the instructions

Many Thanks

Adrian

Hi Adrian,

Yes it can be done in Sailwave without the use of Excel. It is quite a common situation.

Have you seen the User Guide written by Mark Townsend it is available at http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf and there is also a link on the Sailwave website.

Which part are you having trouble with?

Can you enter the competitors and assign them to flights?

Can you configure the Starts?

Is the problem assigning them to Gold and Silver?

Let us know how far you have got and I’m sure someone will help you over the initial learning curve

Jon

···

On 11 December 2012 13:26, addidici adrian@tattenham.com wrote:

Hi

Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I could not find it.

We often have a weekend event where the racing is split between the Saturday and the Sunday.
On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who race each other once or more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split into Gold and Silver. The gold sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the silver. The fleets are blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they race on two starts (i.e. race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow vs white)

Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot see how this can be done in Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.

Is it possible without resorting to excel?

If it can be done please can you point out where I go to get the instructions

Many Thanks

Adrian


Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

It is covered in the Sailwave User Guide http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf Setting up and running Appendix LE Addendum C events on page 9 and in more detail in Qualifying Series and Final Series on page 33.

If you have any have any suggestions to improve the guide I would be happy to incorporate them.

···

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: adrian@tattenham.com
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:26:00 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Flights then Gold Silver

Hi

Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I could not find it.

We often have a weekend event where the racing is split between the Saturday and the Sunday.

On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who race each other once or more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split into Gold and Silver. The gold sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the silver. The fleets are blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they race on two starts (i.e. race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow vs white)

Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot see how this can be done in Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.

Is it possible without resorting to excel?

If it can be done please can you point out where I go to get the instructions

Many Thanks

Adrian

Hi Mark,

“If you have any have any suggestions to improve the guide I would be happy to incorporate them.”

He may well do as I think this is Adrian Ward who has had an Oracle book published.

I’m sure he will update us!

Jon

···

On 11 December 2012 14:00, Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com wrote:

It is covered in the Sailwave User Guide http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf Setting up and running Appendix LE Addendum C events on page 9 and in more detail in Qualifying Series and Final Series on page 33.

If you have any have any suggestions to improve the guide I would be happy to incorporate them.


To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: adrian@tattenham.com

Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:26:00 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Flights then Gold Silver

Hi

Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I could not find it.

We often have a weekend event where the racing is split between the Saturday and the Sunday.

On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who race each other once or more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split into Gold and Silver. The gold sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the silver. The fleets are blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they race on two starts (i.e. race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow vs white)

Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot see how this can be done in Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.

Is it possible without resorting to excel?

If it can be done please can you point out where I go to get the instructions

Many Thanks

Adrian


Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

Ah ha. Blown my cover!

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@...> wrote:

Hi Mark,

*"If you have any have any suggestions to improve the guide I would be
happy to incorporate them."*
*
*
He may well do as I think this is Adrian Ward who has had an Oracle book
published.

I'm sure he will update us!

Jon

On 11 December 2012 14:00, Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> It is covered in the Sailwave User Guide
> http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf Setting up and
> running Appendix LE Addendum C events on page 9 and in more detail in
> Qualifying Series and Final Series on page 33.
>
> If you have any have any suggestions to improve the guide I would be happy
> to incorporate them.
>
> ------------------------------
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> From: adrian@...
> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:26:00 +0000
> Subject: [sailwave] Flights then Gold Silver
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I could not find it.
>
> We often have a weekend event where the racing is split between the
> Saturday and the Sunday.
> On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who race each other once or
> more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split into Gold and Silver. The gold
> sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the silver. The fleets are
> blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they race on two starts (i.e.
> race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow vs white)
>
> Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot see how this can be done in
> Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.
>
> Is it possible without resorting to excel?
>
> If it can be done please can you point out where I go to get the
> instructions
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
>

--
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype "eskdale"

Hi Jon

I had a go at this, using a real event for the numbers. I managed to get the flights allocated and scored without problem.
The issue I face is that the Silvers only had 6 races so I didn't add them to the 7th race start, however, they are all discarding the 7th race, not the race they should.

Adrian

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@...> wrote:

Hi Adrian,

Yes it can be done in Sailwave without the use of Excel. It is quite a
common situation.

Have you seen the User Guide written by Mark Townsend it is available at
http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf and there is also a
link on the Sailwave website.

Which part are you having trouble with?

Can you enter the competitors and assign them to flights?
Can you configure the Starts?
Is the problem assigning them to Gold and Silver?

Let us know how far you have got and I'm sure someone will help you over
the initial learning curve

Jon

On 11 December 2012 13:26, addidici <adrian@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi
>
> Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I could not find it.
>
> We often have a weekend event where the racing is split between the
> Saturday and the Sunday.
> On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who race each other once or
> more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split into Gold and Silver. The gold
> sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the silver. The fleets are
> blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they race on two starts (i.e.
> race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow vs white)
>
> Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot see how this can be done in
> Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.
>
> Is it possible without resorting to excel?
>
> If it can be done please can you point out where I go to get the
> instructions
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Adrian
>
>
>

--
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype "eskdale"

Hi Adrian,

Could you send the Sailwave file (.blw) so I can see exactly what you have done so far.

Happy New Year

Jon

···

On 31 December 2012 15:05, addidici adrian@tattenham.com wrote:

Hi Jon

I had a go at this, using a real event for the numbers. I managed to get the flights allocated and scored without problem.
The issue I face is that the Silvers only had 6 races so I didn’t add them to the 7th race start, however, they are all discarding the 7th race, not the race they should.

Adrian

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@…> wrote:

Hi Adrian,

Yes it can be done in Sailwave without the use of Excel. It is quite a

common situation.

Have you seen the User Guide written by Mark Townsend it is available at

http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf and there is also a

link on the Sailwave website.

Which part are you having trouble with?

Can you enter the competitors and assign them to flights?

Can you configure the Starts?

Is the problem assigning them to Gold and Silver?

Let us know how far you have got and I’m sure someone will help you over

the initial learning curve

Jon

On 11 December 2012 13:26, addidici <adrian@…> wrote:

**

Hi

Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I could not find it.

We often have a weekend event where the racing is split between the

Saturday and the Sunday.

On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who race each other once or

more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split into Gold and Silver. The gold

sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the silver. The fleets are

blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they race on two starts (i.e.

race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow vs white)

Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot see how this can be done in

Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.

Is it possible without resorting to excel?

If it can be done please can you point out where I go to get the

instructions

Many Thanks

Adrian

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”


Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

Adrian, I have scored several regattas using Sailwave with Gold and Silver flights, but I couldn’t find an example where the Silver fleet sailed one less race.

How were the Silver fleet competitors scored in the final race; DNC or a blank result? If they are all shown as DNC then Sailwave is correctly discarding the DNC result, you need to make sure that the Silver Fleet is show as not racing the last race, that is their result is blank. If you are having problems getting Sailwave not to give the silver fleet a blank result, you could give them all a scoring code result of BYE,or something similar and set the score for BYE to 0. Strictly speaking it is not the method, but it should get you the correct result.

I can take a look at the blw file if you can send it to me.

Thanks

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of addidici
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:05 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Flights then Gold Silver

Hi Jon

I had a go at this, using a real event for the numbers. I managed to get the flights allocated and scored without problem.
The issue I face is that the Silvers only had 6 races so I didn’t add them to the 7th race start, however, they are all discarding the 7th race, not the race they should.

Adrian

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@…> wrote:

Hi Adrian,

Yes it can be done in Sailwave without the use of Excel. It is quite a
common situation.

Have you seen the User Guide written by Mark Townsend it is available at
http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf and there is also a
link on the Sailwave website.

Which part are you having trouble with?

Can you enter the competitors and assign them to flights?
Can you configure the Starts?
Is the problem assigning them to Gold and Silver?

Let us know how far you have got and I’m sure someone will help you over
the initial learning curve

Jon

On 11 December 2012 13:26, addidici <adrian@…> wrote:

**

Hi

Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I could not find it.

We often have a weekend event where the racing is split between the
Saturday and the Sunday.
On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who race each other once or
more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split into Gold and Silver. The gold
sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the silver. The fleets are
blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they race on two starts (i.e.
race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow vs white)

Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot see how this can be done in
Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.

Is it possible without resorting to excel?

If it can be done please can you point out where I go to get the
instructions

Many Thanks

Adrian


Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”

Adrian,

I have scored many events where there have been a Qualifying series

(Q-series) with daily flight re-allocation, or just simple round
robin colour groups, prior to split into Gold, Silver etc fleets
for a Final series (F-series). With F-series fleets sailing
different number of races with discards working as expected.

I suspect that you may not have scored correctly. You have to change

the scoring option used once split into Gold, Silver etc for
F-series. Also it is usual to fix results from Q-series once a
F-series race has been completed.

As Jon & Mark have offered, I would also be willing to look at

your Sailwave .BLW file.

Kind regards,
Huw
···

On 31/12/2012 15:05, addidici wrote:

Hi Jon

          I had a go at this, using a real event for the numbers. I

managed to get the flights allocated and scored without
problem.
The issue I face is that the Silvers only had 6 races so I
didn’t add them to the 7th race start, however, they are
all discarding the 7th race, not the race they should.

          Adrian

          --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com              ,

Jon Eskdale wrote:

Hi Adrian,

Yes it can be done in Sailwave without the use of
Excel. It is quite a
common situation.

Have you seen the User Guide written by Mark Townsend
it is available at
and there is also a
link on the Sailwave website.

Which part are you having trouble with?
Can you enter the competitors and assign them to
flights?
Can you configure the Starts?
Is the problem assigning them to Gold and Silver?

Let us know how far you have got and I’m sure someone
will help you over
the initial learning curve

Jon

On 11 December 2012 13:26, addidici
wrote:

**

Hi

Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I
could not find it.

We often have a weekend event where the racing
is split between the

Saturday and the Sunday.
On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who
race each other once or

more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split
into Gold and Silver. The gold

sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the
silver. The fleets are

blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they
race on two starts (i.e.

race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow
vs white)

Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot
see how this can be done in

Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.

Is it possible without resorting to excel?

If it can be done please can you point out where
I go to get the

instructions

Many Thanks

Adrian

– > Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”

<jon@…>

http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf

<adrian@…>

Thanks Huw

I have uploaded the file, 29er Inlands 2012.blw.

The qualifying race points are not fixed, i.e. the discard can happen at any time.
To get around the problem I have added a silver fleet to race 7 and made this non discardeable, which seems to work.
Our next event is in February, when we intend to run a similar format.

Adrian

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Huw Pearce <huw.pearce@...> wrote:

Adrian,

I have scored many events where there have been a Qualifying series
(Q-series) with daily flight re-allocation, or just simple round robin
colour groups, prior to split into Gold, Silver /etc /fleets for a Final
series (F-series). With F-series fleets sailing different number of
races with discards working as expected.

I suspect that you may not have scored correctly. You have to change the
scoring option used once split into Gold, Silver etc for F-series. Also
it is usual to fix results from Q-series once a F-series race has been
completed.

As Jon & Mark have offered, I would also be willing to look at your
Sailwave .BLW file.

Kind regards,
Huw
On 31/12/2012 15:05, addidici wrote:
>
> Hi Jon
>
> I had a go at this, using a real event for the numbers. I managed to
> get the flights allocated and scored without problem.
> The issue I face is that the Silvers only had 6 races so I didn't add
> them to the 7th race start, however, they are all discarding the 7th
> race, not the race they should.
>
> Adrian
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Jon Eskdale <jon@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Adrian,
> >
> > Yes it can be done in Sailwave without the use of Excel. It is quite a
> > common situation.
> >
> > Have you seen the User Guide written by Mark Townsend it is available at
> > http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf and there is
> also a
> > link on the Sailwave website.
> >
> > Which part are you having trouble with?
> >
> > Can you enter the competitors and assign them to flights?
> > Can you configure the Starts?
> > Is the problem assigning them to Gold and Silver?
> >
> > Let us know how far you have got and I'm sure someone will help you over
> > the initial learning curve
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11 December 2012 13:26, addidici <adrian@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I could not find it.
> > >
> > > We often have a weekend event where the racing is split between the
> > > Saturday and the Sunday.
> > > On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who race each other
> once or
> > > more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split into Gold and Silver.
> The gold
> > > sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the silver. The
> fleets are
> > > blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they race on two starts
> (i.e.
> > > race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow vs white)
> > >
> > > Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot see how this can be
> done in
> > > Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.
> > >
> > > Is it possible without resorting to excel?
> > >
> > > If it can be done please can you point out where I go to get the
> > > instructions
> > >
> > > Many Thanks
> > >
> > > Adrian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jon Eskdale
> > 07976 709777
> > Skype "eskdale"
> >
>
>

Hi Adrian,

Just had an initial look at your file and I would not have set it up

in quite that way. I would have used Flight for the colour groups
and Fleets for Gold & Silver.

Things I have noticed so far:
                In Race 1 you have incorrectly set up

which colours are racing against each other,

                in start 1 you have Flight = Yellow or Flight = Blue

                in start 2 Fleet = R or Fleet = G



                In Race 1 Flight Blue = Blue but in other races it

is Bluee but does not affect things as Sailwave has
taken first letter

                on App LE Addendum C tab in Scoring System check

box ‘Do not recalculate qualifying series when at
least one finals race has been sailed’ is not set. I
would have expected the results from Q-series not to
change when a F-series has been sailed.

However, to quickly change your file to stop having Silver Flight

scored DNC for R7 and for majority have it as their discard you only
need to do one thing differently. When you score series use the
second radio button option and use Flight as the grouping after you
have deleted the results for the Silver Flight in R7.

If you want to discuss in more detail send me an email.

Kind regards,

Huw
···

On 01/01/2013 18:07, addidici wrote:

Thanks Huw

          I have uploaded the file, 29er Inlands 2012.blw.

          The qualifying race points are not fixed, i.e. the discard

can happen at any time.
To get around the problem I have added a silver fleet to
race 7 and made this non discardeable, which seems to
work.
Our next event is in February, when we intend to run a
similar format.

          Adrian

          --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com              ,

Huw Pearce wrote:

Adrian,

I have scored many events where there have been a
Qualifying series > (Q-series) with daily flight re-allocation, or just
simple round robin > colour groups, prior to split into Gold, Silver /etc
/fleets for a Final > series (F-series). With F-series fleets sailing
different number of > races with discards working as expected.

I suspect that you may not have scored correctly. You
have to change the > scoring option used once split into Gold, Silver etc
for F-series. Also > it is usual to fix results from Q-series once a
F-series race has been > completed.

As Jon & Mark have offered, I would also be
willing to look at your > Sailwave .BLW file.

Kind regards,
Huw
On 31/12/2012 15:05, addidici wrote:

Hi Jon

I had a go at this, using a real event for the
numbers. I managed to > > get the flights allocated and scored without
problem.

The issue I face is that the Silvers only had 6
races so I didn’t add > > them to the 7th race start, however, they are
all discarding the 7th > > race, not the race they should.

Adrian

— In , > > Jon Eskdale <jon@> wrote:

Hi Adrian,

Yes it can be done in Sailwave without the
use of Excel. It is quite a

common situation.

Have you seen the User Guide written by
Mark Townsend it is available at

and there is > > also a
link on the Sailwave website.

Which part are you having trouble with?

Can you enter the competitors and assign
them to flights?

Can you configure the Starts?
Is the problem assigning them to Gold and
Silver?

Let us know how far you have got and I’m
sure someone will help you over

the initial learning curve

Jon

On 11 December 2012 13:26, addidici
<adrian@> wrote:

**

Hi

Sorry if this is already covered
elsewhere but I could not find it.

We often have a weekend event where
the racing is split between the

Saturday and the Sunday.
On Sat the fleet is split into four
flights, who race each other > > once or

more, then one the Sunday the fleet is
split into Gold and Silver. > > The gold

sometimes have more races on the
Sunday than the silver. The > > fleets are

blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday
and they race on two starts > > (i.e.

race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2
= yellow vs white)

Having read the help and tried lots, I
cannot see how this can be > > done in

Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.

Is it possible without resorting to
excel?

If it can be done please can you point
out where I go to get the

instructions

Many Thanks

Adrian


Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”


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sailwave@yahoogroups.commailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com

http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf

I have advocated that Sailwave should be used by all the clubs we go round in Yorkshire and Humberside for the last 5 years. I am rapidly going off it. At this time of year I upload a new version for the new season. Why have you made it like a rubbish cheeting web site to get at?

So annoying. First avoid the .pdf creater, then get a log in. Then try to find where you acctually download the program I’m
looking for. All using up my very short time!!!

So annoying. And I know I will still have to work out how to get the new PY numbers and get the file in the right place etc etc.

William Redman [Chairman Yorkshire & Humberside Youth Sailing Association]

···

From: Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012, 14:00
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Flights then Gold Silver

It is covered in the Sailwave User Guide http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf Setting up and running Appendix LE Addendum C events on page 9 and in more detail in Qualifying Series and Final Series on page 33.

If you have any have any suggestions to improve the guide I would be happy to incorporate them.


To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: adrian@tattenham.com
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:26:00 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Flights then Gold Silver

Hi

Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I could not find it.

We often have a weekend event where the racing is split between the Saturday and the Sunday.

On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who race each other once or more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split into Gold and Silver. The gold sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the silver. The fleets are blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they race on two starts (i.e. race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow vs white)

Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot see how this can be done in Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.

Is it possible without resorting to excel?

If it can be done please can you point out where I go to get the instructions

Many Thanks

Adrian

Dear William,

You clicked on an advert. To download Sailwave, use the download menu.

Why the adverts?

The Sailwave server costs me personally about £20 a month to run. Adverts bring in less than £10 a month. Donations are very few and far between and rarely cover the rest averaged out. I/we provide out time completely free of charge because I mad a promise about 10 years ago that Sailwave would always be free. I don’t think that a few google adverts is a big deal personally, especially since they are so common and easy to spot.

Colin J

···

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:43 AM, WILLIAM REDMAN william.redman@btinternet.com wrote:

I have advocated that Sailwave should be used by all the clubs we go round in Yorkshire and Humberside for the last 5 years. I am rapidly going off it. At this time of year I upload a new version for the new season. Why have you made it like a rubbish cheeting web site to get at?

So annoying. First avoid the .pdf creater, then get a log in. Then try to find where you acctually download the program I’m
looking for. All using up my very short time!!!

So annoying. And I know I will still have to work out how to get the new PY numbers and get the file in the right place etc etc.

William Redman [Chairman Yorkshire & Humberside Youth Sailing Association]


From: Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012, 14:00
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Flights then Gold Silver

It is covered in the Sailwave User Guide http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf Setting up and running Appendix LE Addendum C events on page 9 and in more detail in Qualifying Series and Final Series on page 33.

If you have any have any suggestions to improve the guide I would be happy to incorporate them.


To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: adrian@tattenham.com

Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:26:00 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Flights then Gold Silver

Hi

Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I could not find it.

We often have a weekend event where the racing is split between the Saturday and the Sunday.

On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who race each other once or more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split into Gold and Silver. The gold sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the silver. The fleets are blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they race on two starts (i.e. race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow vs white)

Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot see how this can be done in Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.

Is it possible without resorting to excel?

If it can be done please can you point out where I go to get the instructions

Many Thanks

Adrian

Hi William,

Firstly Sorry you had a problem In this instance the link that you clicked on was an advert and we are not able to control the format of the adverts. I do agree with you whole heartedly that some of the adverts are designed to deceive people and when you are in a hurry it is easy to mistake them. But its either no adverts or adverts. The problem is that Sailwave is Free but it cost a considerable amount in additional resources which have to be paid for. The hosting of the server alone is several hundreds of pounds per year. One way we can recuperate some of this cost is to allow Google to place a few adverts on the site, in so doing we give them some space on each page to place their adverts but we do not control the adverts. In your message you say you clicked on a PDF creator advert but that advert will change. Next time you go to the Sailwave site it will probably be a different advert.

If you would like us to remove the Google adverts we would be very happy to replace them (or remove them) with an advert for your organisation if you would like to pay the costs. Please let us know if this a possible solution.

Colin and I have spent Many - Many hours developing / refining and supporting Sailwave. I guess you put many hours into supporting your Yorkshire and Humberside Youth Sailing Association the same but Sailwave does take up every spare minute of my time and Many weekends. It also cost me money purchasing the software to support it and cost me money going to Meetings and this year accomodation and travel to the Dinghy show to be on the stand. Maybe your Sailing association gets some Grants or Membership fees. Sailwave doesn’t get any of these. But we still aim to supply a Quality product Free of charge. We do get a few donations which are very gratefully received but these no way cover our cost. If you have some ideas then please let us know

We have tried to make it as simple as possible to download and use Sailwave. First we supply a dedicated site. The site has a menu with Download.

Inline images 1

If you click on Download you get

Inline images 2

So you can see we have even separated out the Beta versions for you to make it simpler. The Download of the Ratings files is on the same menu and you can put them where ever you like all you need to do is then tell Sailwave where you have put them See Setup - Global options - Folders - My Rating files

···

Oh and by the way there is no need to get a login to Sailwave to be able to download it you can even go straight to http://www.sailwave.com/category/download/sailwave but please take time to read some of the other pages such as the FAQ’s which you will hopefully find useful

Hope you and your organisation enjoy using your free Sailwave

Jon

Sailwave

On 17 February 2013 10:43, WILLIAM REDMAN william.redman@btinternet.com wrote:

I have advocated that Sailwave should be used by all the clubs we go round in Yorkshire and Humberside for the last 5 years. I am rapidly going off it. At this time of year I upload a new version for the new season. Why have you made it like a rubbish cheeting web site to get at?

So annoying. First avoid the .pdf creater, then get a log in. Then try to find where you acctually download the program I’m
looking for. All using up my very short time!!!

So annoying. And I know I will still have to work out how to get the new PY numbers and get the file in the right place etc etc.

William Redman [Chairman Yorkshire & Humberside Youth Sailing Association]


From: Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012, 14:00
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Flights then Gold Silver

It is covered in the Sailwave User Guide http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf Setting up and running Appendix LE Addendum C events on page 9 and in more detail in Qualifying Series and Final Series on page 33.

If you have any have any suggestions to improve the guide I would be happy to incorporate them.


To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: adrian@tattenham.com

Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:26:00 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Flights then Gold Silver

Hi

Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I could not find it.

We often have a weekend event where the racing is split between the Saturday and the Sunday.

On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who race each other once or more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split into Gold and Silver. The gold sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the silver. The fleets are blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they race on two starts (i.e. race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow vs white)

Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot see how this can be done in Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.

Is it possible without resorting to excel?

If it can be done please can you point out where I go to get the instructions

Many Thanks

Adrian

I’ve added the PDF converter advert and a few others with “download” on them to the block list - may take a while to kick in…

···

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com wrote:

Hi William,

Firstly Sorry you had a problem In this instance the link that you clicked on was an advert and we are not able to control the format of the adverts. I do agree with you whole heartedly that some of the adverts are designed to deceive people and when you are in a hurry it is easy to mistake them. But its either no adverts or adverts. The problem is that Sailwave is Free but it cost a considerable amount in additional resources which have to be paid for. The hosting of the server alone is several hundreds of pounds per year. One way we can recuperate some of this cost is to allow Google to place a few adverts on the site, in so doing we give them some space on each page to place their adverts but we do not control the adverts. In your message you say you clicked on a PDF creator advert but that advert will change. Next time you go to the Sailwave site it will probably be a different advert.

If you would like us to remove the Google adverts we would be very happy to replace them (or remove them) with an advert for your organisation if you would like to pay the costs. Please let us know if this a possible solution.

Colin and I have spent Many - Many hours developing / refining and supporting Sailwave. I guess you put many hours into supporting your Yorkshire and Humberside Youth Sailing Association the same but Sailwave does take up every spare minute of my time and Many weekends. It also cost me money purchasing the software to support it and cost me money going to Meetings and this year accomodation and travel to the Dinghy show to be on the stand. Maybe your Sailing association gets some Grants or Membership fees. Sailwave doesn’t get any of these. But we still aim to supply a Quality product Free of charge. We do get a few donations which are very gratefully received but these no way cover our cost. If you have some ideas then please let us know

We have tried to make it as simple as possible to download and use Sailwave. First we supply a dedicated site. The site has a menu with Download.

If you click on Download you get

So you can see we have even separated out the Beta versions for you to make it simpler. The Download of the Ratings files is on the same menu and you can put them where ever you like all you need to do is then tell Sailwave where you have put them See Setup - Global options - Folders - My Rating files

Oh and by the way there is no need to get a login to Sailwave to be able to download it you can even go straight to http://www.sailwave.com/category/download/sailwave but please take time to read some of the other pages such as the FAQ’s which you will hopefully find useful

Hope you and your organisation enjoy using your free Sailwave

Jon

Sailwave

On 17 February 2013 10:43, WILLIAM REDMAN william.redman@btinternet.com wrote:

I have advocated that Sailwave should be used by all the clubs we go round in Yorkshire and Humberside for the last 5 years. I am rapidly going off it. At this time of year I upload a new version for the new season. Why have you made it like a rubbish cheeting web site to get at?

So annoying. First avoid the .pdf creater, then get a log in. Then try to find where you acctually download the program I’m
looking for. All using up my very short time!!!

So annoying. And I know I will still have to work out how to get the new PY numbers and get the file in the right place etc etc.

William Redman [Chairman Yorkshire & Humberside Youth Sailing Association]


From: Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012, 14:00
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Flights then Gold Silver

It is covered in the Sailwave User Guide http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf Setting up and running Appendix LE Addendum C events on page 9 and in more detail in Qualifying Series and Final Series on page 33.

If you have any have any suggestions to improve the guide I would be happy to incorporate them.


To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: adrian@tattenham.com

Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:26:00 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Flights then Gold Silver

Hi

Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I could not find it.

We often have a weekend event where the racing is split between the Saturday and the Sunday.

On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who race each other once or more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split into Gold and Silver. The gold sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the silver. The fleets are blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they race on two starts (i.e. race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow vs white)

Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot see how this can be done in Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.

Is it possible without resorting to excel?

If it can be done please can you point out where I go to get the instructions

Many Thanks

Adrian

Hi Colin / Jon

I do appreciate the work you guys do, and to prove it have just done a pay-pal donation of £20 to keep the web-site running another month! (Please can we have a big green button with [Download Sailwave] on it near the top of the download tab?). Afraid I do it once a year. Then know I will have fun getting the PY file to work but am normally sorted when we start in March / April.

Pity you can’t get £1/month from every club which uses it!

Thanks William

William Redman [Contract Project Engineer] Mobile 07711117740

···

From: Colin Jenkins colin@sailwave.com
To: Sailwave User Group sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 17 February 2013, 12:42
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Why is it so hard to get the latest version of Sailwave

I’ve added the PDF converter advert and a few others with “download” on them to the block list - may take a while to kick in…

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com wrote:

Hi William,

Firstly Sorry you had a problem In this instance the link that you clicked on was an advert and we are not able to control the format of the adverts. I do agree with you whole heartedly that some of the adverts are designed to deceive people and when you are in a hurry it is easy to mistake them. But its either no adverts or adverts. The problem is that Sailwave is Free but it cost a considerable amount in additional resources which have to be paid for. The hosting of the server alone is several hundreds of pounds per year. One way we can recuperate some of this cost is to allow Google to place a few adverts on the site, in so doing we give them some space on each page to place their adverts but we do not control the adverts. In your message you say you clicked on a PDF creator advert but that advert will change. Next time you go to the Sailwave site
it will probably be a different advert.

If you would like us to remove the Google adverts we would be very happy to replace them (or remove them) with an advert for your organisation if you would like to pay the costs. Please let us know if this a possible solution.

Colin and I have spent Many - Many hours developing / refining and supporting Sailwave. I guess you put many hours into supporting your Yorkshire and Humberside Youth Sailing Association the same but Sailwave does take up every spare minute of my time and Many weekends. It also cost me money purchasing the software to support it and cost me money going to Meetings and this year accomodation and travel to the Dinghy show to be on the stand. Maybe your Sailing association gets some Grants or Membership fees. Sailwave doesn’t get any of these. But we still aim to supply a Quality product Free of charge. We do get a few donations which are very gratefully received but these no way cover our cost. If you have some ideas then please let us know

We have tried to make it as simple as possible to download and use Sailwave. First we supply a dedicated site. The site has a menu with Download.

Inline images 1

If you click on Download you get

Inline images 2

So you can see we have even separated out the Beta versions for you to make it simpler. The Download of the Ratings files is on the same menu and you can put them where ever you like all you need to do is then tell Sailwave where you have put them See Setup - Global options - Folders - My Rating files

Oh and by the way there is no need to get a login to Sailwave to be able to download it you can even go straight to http://www.sailwave.com/category/download/sailwave but please take time to read some of the other pages such as the FAQ’s which you will hopefully find useful

Hope you and your organisation enjoy using your free Sailwave

Jon

Sailwave

On 17 February 2013 10:43, WILLIAM REDMAN william.redman@btinternet.com wrote:

I have advocated that Sailwave should be used by all the clubs we go round in Yorkshire and Humberside for the last 5 years. I am rapidly going off it. At this time of year I upload a new version for the new season. Why have you made it like a rubbish cheeting web site to get at?

So annoying. First avoid the .pdf creater, then get a log in. Then try to find where you acctually download the program I’m
looking for. All using up my very short time!!!

So annoying. And I know I will still have to work out how to get the new PY numbers and get the file in the right place etc etc.

William Redman [Chairman Yorkshire & Humberside Youth Sailing Association]


From: Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012, 14:00
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Flights then Gold Silver

It is covered in the Sailwave User Guide http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf Setting up and running Appendix LE Addendum C events on page 9 and in more detail in Qualifying Series and Final Series on page 33.

If you have any have any suggestions to improve the guide I would be happy to incorporate them.


To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: adrian@tattenham.com

Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:26:00 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Flights then Gold Silver

Hi

Sorry if this is already covered elsewhere but I could not find it.

We often have a weekend event where the racing is split between the Saturday and the Sunday.

On Sat the fleet is split into four flights, who race each other once or more, then one the Sunday the fleet is split into Gold and Silver. The gold sometimes have more races on the Sunday than the silver. The fleets are blue/red/yellow/white on the Saturday and they race on two starts (i.e. race 1 start 1 = blue vs red, start 2 = yellow vs white)

Having read the help and tried lots, I cannot see how this can be done in Sailwave. It can be done in Sail100.

Is it possible without resorting to excel?

If it can be done please can you point out where I go to get the instructions

Many Thanks

Adrian