Hi Phil
Don't worry too much about the NZ Laser Nationals file.
John sent the file simply as an example of what the problem was
You need to look at the Laser Worlds SIs & evaluate against SW.
http://events.laserinternational.org/en/events/overview/100z10
Mike, Huw & I have tried to spot any set up error but as you said,
seems to be a bug - Colin will try & have a look this weekend.
I did see an error in the NZ file where the discard profile in the
Finals is different to the overall regatta profile. Beware, the
finals text is misleading and it needs to be entered in the same
syntax as the overall profile
Ralph
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "FFYB Web Manager" <webmanager@...>
wrote:
As Belgium is organising the Laser Europeans in July, we are also
concerned, but with more time to find a solution.
The case of this regatta is very complicated, as 16 masters have
sailed only 6 quals and 2 finals, and even with 8 races only 1 is
discarded in the results (should be 2?).
Quals are scored with DNF 40 points (event for R7 where there were
16 Masters missing), this could be also an error (don't say bug...)
Coded scores for Master and Silver Fleet Finals are scored 17 or
24, hence they are unlikely to be discarded, as there should be
higher scores up to 40 in the quals.
For the others, I'm working on a control sheet in Excel, the
formula to apply should be SUM(Race1:Race7;Final1:Final5)-MAX
(Race1:Race7;MAX(Final1:Final5)
Just a problem with a DNE, but this is another question (and solved
in the file...). My sheet does not display discards, but these may
be displayed with some more calcutations.
Note that I had some problems as some races are not entered for
some competitors, according to the points they should be DNC or so
but not entered as such.
Phil DE TROY
From: Colin Jenkins
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] FW: Sailwave - Excluded Scores from Final
Series LASER PROBLEM
OK - I'll have a look this weekend - assuming Wales loose... he
he... Don't mention the rugby, don't mention the rugby, Dont ...
:)
Ralph Tingle wrote:
Hi Colin
This is John's original email which explains his problem
It demonstrates that when a boat has its two worst scores in
the Finals but only 1 discard is allowed in the final, it does not
discard one of the Qual scores
This looks like a bug but your input (if you have the time)
would be helpful
···
----- Original Message -----
You might be able to spot something quicker
Regards
Ralph
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From: John Bullôt [mailto:john@…]
Sent: 06 February 2008 01:16
To: 'Ralph Tingle'; Michael Butterfield
Cc: Colin Jenkins
Subject: Sailwave - Excluded Scores from Final Series
Hi Ralph, Mike and Colin,
Greeting from New Zealand.
Last weekend the NZL Laser National Championships were sailed
on Lake Taupo in the centre of the North Island. It was a wonderful
5 day regatta with 145 lasers racing. From a judges point of view
there was some fabulous racing and wonderful spirit amongst the
sailors, but isn't that what sailing is all about.
The regatta used Sailwave (v1.95 b6) for the results system.
Which by the way we also hope to use at the Radial World
Championships which are being sailed in Auckland in a months time.
In using the programme I think we found a bug, although of
course it may also be an operator error.
The Radial fleet of 78 boats (including the CHN girl who was WC
in Los Angeles in 2006) sailed a qualifying series of of 7 races and
then a final series of a further 5 races. The discard profile was 1
at 6 and 2 at 10 with only one race discarded from the final series
(race 8 onwards).
The error in the results was that where a sailors two worst
results were in the final series the programme excluded one race from
the final-series races but but then did not exclude another race from
the qualifying-series, therefore some sailors only had one discard
recorded after race 10 rather than two. The attached PDF file
highlights the sailors where this error occurred. Also attached is
the BLW file with results recorded up to race 10.
Can any of you advise if this is an operator error or a
programme error.
Thank you for your assistance.
Good Sailing.
John Bullot IJ NZL
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