Our club has also gone to the use of time of day scoring primarily
for the reasons that were listed in the previous post. Could
Sailwave be made to ask for the starting time for the first boat in
each fleet? The default could be 00:00:00. We have multiple fleets
at all of our regattas. When entering results with sail number
wizard, it is easy to miss the 1st boat in a fleet because the sail
numbers are all similar.
Is the import of a string of finish times on the list of things to
add to Sailwave? We use an Alge Timing timer at our large regattas
(100 boats) that can export a string of times to a PC. It would save
a lot of time & eliminate fat finger errors if we could have sail
number wizard offer up the next time in a string of times as each
sail number is typed in.
Happy New Year to All;
Tom Liston
Scoring Chairman
Catamaran Racing Association of Michigan (CRAM)
Dear All,
This topic floated by Colin has made the group active again 
I advocate using real time, 24-hr clock times, for ALL time
recording. Why?
The number of times in my early days of being a race officer that my
timekeeper or I pressed the wrong button on a stop watch and lost
the time.
When a sequence of starts are being run, when does one start the
stopwatch
- at the first warning signal
- at the first start
When General Recall is involved it is much easier to work things
out when a
sequence is involved if real times are used not elapsed times.
If there are problems with different watches being used for start
and finish
times it is possible to sort things out if both watches being are
using real
time. If stop watches are used then by the time a problem as been
noted the
watches are very likely to have been reset. It is also possible to
compare
race team times with competitors times if real 24-hr clock times
are used.
It is probably true that most clubs use a computer program to
calculate race
results - that is why we are all contributing to this thread(!).
Computers
programs once fully sorted are less likely to make mathematical
errors than
harassed race teams trying to work out the correct elapsed times.
So Colin's option of only having the capability of entering
Start/Finish
times covers the situation of those wanting to enter elapsed times
only, by
the fact that the start time defaults to 0(zero). But from the
needs of
clubs that have multiple start sequence there could beneficially be
a
mechanism for entering multiple start times or start time offsets
from the
first warning signal. Instead of remembering as in the present
evolution of
SailWave to enter the appropriate start time for the first boat to
finish in
each Fleet. Suggestion - perhaps an extra tab on the Race
Information, i.e.
where you can record a name for the race, date of race, wind
strength &
direction etc.
Finally Colin keep up the fantastic work. Hope you finish the
decorating in
time for Christmas. PS - How close is the electronic import of
finish
times? FYI - We will be testing our PROlog application for real
shortly.
Kind regards to all,
Huw Pearce
RYA Open Meeting Race Officer
Club Secretary, Datchet Water Sailing Club
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@s…]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:34 PM
To: Sailwave User Group
Subject: [sailwave] FW: start/finish times
Hi all,
I would like to run some past the group...
Presently you can enter results as positions, elapsed times or
start/finish
times. In an effort to simplify, would I be removing anything from
usability if I dumped the elapsed method - using the start/finish
method
instead with a start time of 00:00:00... The 0 starts could be
appropriately defaulted etc ensuring that there was no extra
effort. I ask
because the Auto checkbox can cause confusion and can be removed
with this
generalisation; it also simplifies other areas of Sailwave like the
Enter-By-Sail-Number wizard...
Other stuff...
I've changed the registration scheme from sending you a file to
the more
usual method of sending you a registration name (typically the name
of your
club or event) and a registration code which you enter via the
Help+ApplyRegistration menu. All currently registered users will
receive
registration codes before version 1.46 beta 1 is released. To
satisfy some
users that are mobile (LindaJo) - using different clubs computers
each week,
you will also receive a registration code than once applied will
time out
after N days - allowing you to be registered for the duration of an
event
while using somebody else's computer.
Like the bathroom, 1.46 beta 1 (possibly 2.0 as suggested) is
getting
there, apologies (again) for the delay...
Google has been updated for this month and there are now around
2900
uploaded results.
My PHP/mySQL skills are gradually improving; thanks to those that
pointed
me at LAMP - PHP and mySQL do work wonderfully together; lots of
irons in
the fire in this respect...
The development plan has been removed from the web site.
Regards to everybody,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com
PS: Please don't be afraid to beat me up about promises that don't
seem to
be happening...
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