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Re: [sailwave] OPTINAM 2009 Results PROBLEMS
Date:
Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:33:21 +0100
From:
Colin Jenkins
Organisation:
Sailwave
To:
Manolo
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Manolo,
I just read this thread - as far as I can see you don’t need to be
using “flights” in Sailwave because the competitors stay in the same
fleet or flight for the whole series. In Sailwave you only use it’s
“flights” feature if competitors change flight/fleet after N races
throughout the series (i.e. as per IASF Addendum C).
So Mark’s file should have been fine because he set up the starts for
the rest of the series. Sailwave has been used for some huge events -
flight (ISAF Addendum C) and not-flight based (round robin starts) and
is capable of handling it - the IODA not “trusting it”
notwithstanding…! I would be happy to talk to them if they think
Sailwave has compromised their event.
Colin Jenkins
Sailwave
I forgot… Mark, the flights are different on each race… the
combination of colors is different…
From: S.
Mark Townsend Manolo
; Tuesday, July 7,
2009 12:06:13 AM
Re:
[sailwave] OPTINAM 2009 Results PROBLEMSYou didn’t assign the competitors to
flights for race 7… As they don’t change flights each race you can do
it with the
Attached is the file. I added races
7 through 12 and assigned the competitors to flights.
From: Manolo
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 2:25 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend ; colin@sailwave.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] OPTINAM 2009 Results PROBLEMS
Hello Mark and Coling,
I’m having a VERY HARD TIME with Sailwave… Could you please
check the attached file.
I’m currently in a race, everything was fine till RACE 7, todays
first race. I’ve added the race, added the copetitors to the race and
when I when to the Sailing Wizard to enter the scores BAM!! it erase
all the FLIGHTS… please check this for me and let me know asap.
The IODA representatives are here and are furious with Sailwave,
they have installed their St. Pete and are working on entering every
race from the beginning because they don’t trust the program.
Please let me know asap, thanks…
Manolo
From: S.
Mark Townsend Manolo
; Sunday, July 5,
2009 8:13:56 PM
Re:
[sailwave] OPTINAM 2009 Results PROBLEMSLooks like other than the XML you
are in good shape on the scoring for the regatta.
From: Manolo
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] OPTINAM 2009 Results PROBLEMS
Hey Guys,
I’m attaching the corrected file up today. Colin If you can
find a way to export the file as XML I’ll appreciate it. I only need
the top 10.
Please let me know, thanks!!
Manolo
From: S.
Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com; sailwave@yahoogroups.com; colin@sailwave.com
Sent: Sunday, July 5,
2009 12:06:56 PM
Subject: Re:
[sailwave] OPTINAM 2009 Results PROBLEMSColin,
There appears to be a problem with
the “Save as an XML file” when you have 198 competitors in flights.
Hhave you added a method to print start results when scoring
flights. The current publish race results produces a combined start
report.
I sent you the following suggestion
last year.
*Problem –Race Results are not in race
finish sequence*
The published results for the individual race
starts have the results of the different flight starts inter mixed. For
example in Race 2 the Blue vs Red and Green vs Yellow are intermixed,
the first boat from the Blue vs Red is followed by the first boat from
the Green vs Yellow flight, rather than all the Blue vs Red competitors
followed by all the Green vs Yellow competitors.
From: Manolo
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 8:46 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] OPTINAM 2009 Results Problems
Yes that’s how I’m, revising it right now…
Yes I am using the Sail Num wizard to enter the positions. At
the beginning I was having trouble because the numbers of the positions
were not entering, it stayed in 1. After I reconfigured the flights
apparently everything got corrected.
It is a very important feature to add for the printing the
Flights for each race. I mean I can look at them but not print them.
Odd!!
Thanks for all your help…
From: S.
Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo
;
sailwave@yahoogroup Sunday, July 5,
2009 11:30:45 AM
Re:
[sailwave] OPTINAM 2009 Results ProblemsI have not found a way of printing
the results for each race. I keep hopping that COLIN will add that
feature.
However, you can view them using the
“Rearrange recorded places” tool, see the screen shots below. This is
how I found some of the anomalies in your results.
Race 1, Start 1A has two 1st place
boats.
Race 1, Start 1B has no 6th place
boat.
Race 2, Start 2B has two 51st place
boats.
Race 3, Start 3A has no 11th place
boat.
Race 4, Start 4A has numerous
finishes missing 10, 11, 15, 19, 28, 34, 37, 43, 45, 47, 56, 57, and
has two boats in 30th place
Race 4, Start 4B has no 3rd place
boat.
Race 5, Start 5A has no 4th place
boat.
Race 5, Start 5B has two boats in 46th place.
Are you using the Sail Num Wizard to enter the finish
positions?
Below is a screen shot of Start
1A showing the two first place boats.
Start 1B has no 6th place.
From: Manolo
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:39 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries;
defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hi Mark,
Is there any way to print the flights ?? Ex. The races…
Manuel
From: S.
Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com;
Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Cc: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 5,
2009 12:32:05 AM
Subject: Re:
[sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish
times?26th place in the pink blue start?
That is why it is changing the score. What position did BER 1016
finish in the first race?
From: Manolo
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:09 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries;
defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Mark, on the file that you send using the Volvo template it is
wrong… please check competitor BER 1016 on rank no.19, the Finishing
place should be 26 and when you publish it , changes back to 25. That
is what I was telling you about. If you change a competitor score and
you use the Finishes (place/elapsed- time/finish- time/code) it looks
ok but with a letter in front. When you change it to score it changes
the number to 25… it should read 26.
I’ll be here waiting for you so I can post it, it is urgent that
I post this asap, I have 198 competitors and family waiting, plus
press…
THnaks,
Manolo
From: S.
Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo
sailwave@yahoogroup Saturday, July
4, 2009 7:56:05 PM
Re:
[sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish
times? [1 Attachment]I think the attached is displayed in
the manner you want. I changed the display to “Scored Points” and then
published using the Volvo template.
The xml file still looks wrong. It
is not a feature I have used before, we just publish the html page. I
have copied the user group to see if anyone knows how to resolve the
problem for you.
Mark Townsend
Alamitos Bay Y.C.
California USA
From: Manolo
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 4:31 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries;
defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Thanks a lot, I’m having trouble presenting the html file
because of the finishes, I need the finishing points but I get it right
when I see it in Finishes (place/elapsed- time/finish- time/code) .
Please see attached… how can I get the letter behind the number
to not show ??
From: S.
Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo mnlo@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, July
4, 2009 7:20:33 PM
Subject: Re:
[sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish
times?Attached is the XML file you
requested.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:29 PM
To: S. Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries;
defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
Uff what a day!!!, I’m sending you a copy with your corrections
to so you can take a look and confirm them to me.
I replace the Fleet column with nothing because I don’t need it
anymore.
I need a favor from you though, I need that file in .XML format
so I can upload it to the web page for some ranking feature. When I do
it on my computer and some other ones that I have here it show’s and
error and it does not complete the export. Can you please do it and
sent it back the .XML ???
Thanks a million!!
Manuel (Manolo)
From: S.
Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo
Friday, July 3,
2009 7:41:03 PM
Re:
[sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish
times?Send it to me, I will take a look at
it… I think I have the first three races scored correctly.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:52 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries;
defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I did have it as Divisions but I change everything to Flights
but I just don’t get the flights…
I have more results for today that I have to post and I’m into
incredible pressure from everybody at this moment.
The total amount is taking the whole flleet instead of
calculating each group of 2 color “flights”.
Can you help!! please!!!, can I send you again what I have and
you corrected it so I can post it!!?
From: S.
Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To: Manolo
;
sailwave@yahoogroup Friday, July 3,
2009 2:41:33 PM
Re:
[sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish
times?It is important to understand the
definitions of the terms used by Sailwave.
Fleet
– A group of boats that will sail and be scor ed together, they can be
a one design class, or different boats using a handicap or rating
system. Portsmouth , PHRF, or IRC would be a fleet made up of several
different classes of boats using a handicap or rating system.
Conversely Naples Sabots, or Optimists may be broken up into several
different fleets, A’s, B’s, C’s etc. flights, Blue, Yellow, Purple,
etc. or Divisions, Men and Women.
Class
– The type of boat all carrying the same class insignia per rule
G1.1(a). Farr 40, 49er, Snipe, Cal 20, Naples Sabot, Optimist, etc.
Division
– Generally us ed to further divides fleets. For example, Olympic 470
Men and Women often sail in a combined fleet, and are scored combined,
with the division indicating Men and Women.
Flights
– A flight is a competitor attribute that changes on a per race basis,
and who is sailing who can change each race.
In reading your SI’s you are using
flights rather than divisions. That is who is sailing who changes each
race.
From: Manolo
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:36 AM
To: s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries;
defaulted hour entry in finish times?
Hello Mark,
I’m
a bit confused… is there a phone that I can call you?? or do you have
Skype ??
I
can send you the details of what I’ve done ?? the file (attached),
maybe you can help me.
The
thing is that we practice with Sailwave and the webmaster configure the
webpage so It can received XML docs and do some ranking updates.
But
I did not know that the races were going to be combined with colors and
it’s driving me nuts.
I
had to use St. Pete scorer yesterday buit honestly I don’t like it.
Please
let me know.
REgards,
Manuel
From: S.
Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@ hotmail.com>
To:
sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, July 3,
2009 1:24:05 PM
Subject: Re:
[sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted hour entry in finish
times?Unless you
are using rule A9 or have specified a similar provision with your NOR
and SI’s, DNC’s will impact the score of boats that come to the
starting area, but do not start, do not finish, retire after finishing
or are disqualified. If you hide the DNC boats result for that race
DNS, OCS, DNF, RAF, etc. boats will not be able to understand how they
are being scored.
If you use the real time scoring feature of
Sailwave it will enter the time for you, otherwise I am not aware of a
feature in sailwave.
From: Paul Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:58 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [sailwave] DNCs in series summaries; defaulted
hour entry in finish times?
We have a number of sailors who register for everything, and
participate in fewer events.For individual races, I can hide DNCs. Is there any way to leave those
who were DNC for ALL races off the series summary?Also, is there any feature that does a rolling default on the
significant digits for finish times? (i.e. you enter just the digits
that have changed from the previous finish time)thanks,
PMB
ABYC Toronto
s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
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