How to install Sailwave on OSX with Wine

Can anyone please offer an advice on the most reliable way to install Sailwave on an OSX environment using Wine please? I have tried several times, with varying degrees of success, but it never works completely. for instance you get 2 option on how to run sailwave using wine Run Directly in your users folder or convert to simple OSX application bundle with winebottler, which is the most reliable?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks John

Hi John,

  I have done it once with WineBottler and had no problem and I

know of others who have done so as well.

  I have made some notes on installing Sailwave on MacOS under

WineBottler, see attached, which you might find useful.

Kind regards,

Huw

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On 05/06/2017 17:04, [sailwave] wrote:

ejwjohn@gmail.com

            Can anyone please offer an advice on the most

reliable way to install Sailwave on an OSX environment
using Wine please? I have tried several times, with
varying degrees of success, but it never works
completely. for instance you get 2 option on how to run
sailwave using wine Run Directly in your users folder
or convert to simple OSX application bundle with
winebottler, which is the most reliable?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks John


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Huw,

Thank
You for your help, i cleared out all signs of previous installation of both
Wine and Wine Bottler, and stated again following your instructions, and i seem
to have sorted most of my issues.

One
of the problems i had was because i had a separate Template folder specified
and when the Installation under Wine fired up it could not locate that folder,
so that sorted that issue… Now i have two final problem and i must admit i am
struggling.

I
have added Effects to my javascript folder and i need to add them to the
current wine installation, When i try to locate the wine folders under OSX they
appear to be in a Folder called WINE on my Home on OSX, but not all the
folders and files appear to be there like the Sailwave .exe etc cannot be
found. However if i go to the Wine File Manager i can locate all the Sailwave
folders and files, But i still do not know where these folders and files are on
my OSX environment, i have tried the Application Support folder with no
success… the issue i have is that i cannot copy a file/folder from OSX and
paste it into the WIne environment.

So
i cannot update my Javascript folder nor can i update to the latest version of
Sailwave exe.

What
am i missing here please?

Thanks
Again.

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Huw,

Figured it out now, the real folders are in the Application Support folder within the Library, and i could copy and paste my files for the Effects and the Sailwave update there.

Thanks for all the help.

John

Hi John,

  Great to hear that you have moved forward and can now copy files

to where you want them.

Enjoy the learning curve. I appreciate it can be daunting.

Kind regards,

Huw

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On 06/06/2017 12:45, [sailwave] wrote:

ejwjohn@gmail.com

Huw,

          Figured it out now, the real folders are in the

Application Support folder within the Library, and i could
copy and paste my files for the Effects and the Sailwave
update there.

Thanks for all the help.

John


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Huw,

Yes there is a lot to learn, and i suspect i will be on the Forum again shortly as we have a Regatta coming up and there will be One Design and other craft with PY handicaps, which i have not worked with before on Sailwave.

Thanks a lot for all the support.

John

Hi John,

Keep the faith :wink:

For your regatta you have two choices:

  1. use separate Sailwave files for One Design and PY
  2.     use single Sailwave file and tag which boats are in which
    

grouping, usually for dinghies use Fleet
Second option you would score series using the second scoring
option, but also have to set up things under scoring system for
each grouping.

The best solution for you will depend on the NoR & SI’s.

Kind regards,

Huw

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On 06/06/2017 19:19, [sailwave] wrote:

ejwjohn@gmail.com

Huw,

          Yes there is a lot to learn, and i suspect i will be on

the Forum again shortly as we have a Regatta coming up and
there will be One Design and other craft with PY
handicaps, which i have not worked with before on
Sailwave.

Thanks a lot for all the support.

John


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Huw,

Thanks for the tips,

I need to review my options based on your advice.

However, at this point my inclination is to go for separate Sailwave score sheets for each of the One Design and then treat the PY boats separately again.

However, this is a moving target

thx

John

John,

  An advantage of using one Sailwave fie is that if a single finish

boat finishes PY & One Design boats then they do not have to
separate the finishers, they can just record all boats in the
order they cross the finish line. Sailwave will sort things out
for you automatically.

  However, if you use two Sailwave files and the finish boat does

not separate boats out, then you will have to go through the sheet
marking who is who before you can enter data. THis slows down the
results processing.

All the best.

Kind regards,

Huw

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On 06/06/2017 20:06, [sailwave] wrote:

ejwjohn@gmail.com

Huw,

Thanks for the tips,

I need to review my options based on your advice.

          However, at this point my inclination is to go for

separate Sailwave score sheets for each of the One Design
and then treat the PY boats separately again.

However, this is a moving target

thx

John


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Hi John,

One other thing to consider is how you wish to publish the results. If you want them displayed both on a single page then they will need to be in the same file. If they are in the same file you have the choice of displaying them as one page or multiple pages. If you have two files then you can’t have a single file.

Another factor which may make you decide is if they will be racing a similar number of races.

Jon

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On 6 June 2017 at 21:06, Huw Pearce huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

John,

  An advantage of using one Sailwave fie is that if a single finish

boat finishes PY & One Design boats then they do not have to
separate the finishers, they can just record all boats in the
order they cross the finish line. Sailwave will sort things out
for you automatically.

  However, if you use two Sailwave files and the finish boat does

not separate boats out, then you will have to go through the sheet
marking who is who before you can enter data. THis slows down the
results processing.

All the best.

Kind regards,

Huw

On 06/06/2017 20:06, ejwjohn@gmail.com
[sailwave] wrote:

Huw,

Thanks for the tips,

I need to review my options based on your advice.

          However, at this point my inclination is to go for

separate Sailwave score sheets for each of the One Design
and then treat the PY boats separately again.

However, this is a moving target

thx

John


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Jon Eskdale
07530 112233

Skype “eskdale”

Jon & Huw,

So if i understand you correctly, i can create one large file of yachts including One design and PY and as long as all races have a start time and each boat is finished with a Finish time ( even though One design do not need that, then Sailwave can resolve all of the positions of finishers in each respective class.?

Is this basic understanding correct please?

As if this is correct then the next question will be how do i “load” up the initial race information? to deferentially between each “Class” or “Fleet”… this is were the learning curve takes a steep direction … North…

if you know what i mean.

Thanks Again

John

Hi John,

Sailwave will know which fleet the boat is in so will score it with that fleet.

For each race you specify starts - So you specify which fleets start together. You also specify if you are recording by position, elapsed time or finish time, If it is by finish time then you will specify a start time for that start, Sailwave will then compute the elapsed time for you.

You could have some starts recorded by place and others by time if you wish.

Jon

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On 6 June 2017 at 23:03, ejwjohn@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon & Huw,

So if i understand you correctly, i can create one large file of yachts including One design and PY and as long as all races have a start time and each boat is finished with a Finish time ( even though One design do not need that, then Sailwave can resolve all of the positions of finishers in each respective class.?

Is this basic understanding correct please?

As if this is correct then the next question will be how do i “load” up the initial race information? to deferentially between each “Class” or “Fleet”… this is were the learning curve takes a steep direction … North…

if you know what i mean.

Thanks Again

John

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