Hunting start

Anders_Meiton · 3 May 2019 15:38

Hi
We are a small Sailing club in Sweden and we are Sinclair years having an old system.
We practice hunting start. Can sailwave manage that?

//Anders

Sailwave · 3 May 2019 16:39

Hi Anders,
Welcome to Sailwave. Sorry could you explain what you mean by hunting start.

Regards

Jon

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Anders_Meiton · 3 May 2019 17:23

Hi

The slowest boats starts first and the fastest later. The handicap is saying which time you will start.

I’m not sure Hunting start is the correct word, I took it from Google translate.

We use to be 10 boats every Tuesday evening.

Today we use an very old data system, only supporting older Windows.

Have a nice day,

Fair Winds/Vänliga hälsningar,

Anders Meiton, Managing Director
Gobius Sensor Technology AB**
Ljungåsvägen 2
302 91 Halmstad**

Sweden

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Hi Anders,

Welcome to Sailwave. Sorry could you explain what you mean by hunting start.

Regards

Jon

Jon Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 17:01, anders.meiton@gobius.se [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi
We are a small Sailing club in Sweden and we are Sinclair years having an old system.
We practice hunting start. Can sailwave manage that?

//Anders

Anders_Meiton · 3 May 2019 17:30

Hi again

My IPhone are making its own translating,

we are Sinclair years having an old system

should have been

we are since many years having an old system.

Fanny, but not good…

//Anders

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Hi Anders,

Welcome to Sailwave. Sorry could you explain what you mean by hunting start.

Regards

Jon

Jon Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 17:01, anders.meiton@gobius.se [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi
We are a small Sailing club in Sweden and we are Sinclair years having an old system.
We practice hunting start. Can sailwave manage that?

//Anders

kirk · 3 May 2019 17:41

In Canada we call that a Pursuit race. At our club we have a spreadsheet with minutes per mile for all boats. then we start them grouped at 1 or 2 minute intervals depending on the race length.
After that Sailwave takes over as a non-handicapped race; be glad to send you copy

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On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 1:46 PM ‘Anders Meiton’ anders.meiton@gobius.se [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi

The slowest boats starts first and the fastest later. The handicap is saying which time you will start.

I’m not sure Hunting start is the correct word, I took it from Google translate.

We use to be 10 boats every Tuesday evening.

Today we use an very old data system, only supporting older Windows.

Have a nice day,

Fair Winds/Vänliga hälsningar,

Anders Meiton, Managing Director
Gobius Sensor Technology AB**
Ljungåsvägen 2
302 91 Halmstad**

Sweden

+46 (0)31 65 01 70, office
+46 (0)70 84 90 627, mobile
www.gobius.se

www.gobiuspro.com

Gobius Pro nominated for the DAME Award 2018

If you have time, please visit www.hss1910.nu

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Hi Anders,

Welcome to Sailwave. Sorry could you explain what you mean by hunting start.

Regards

Jon

Jon Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 17:01, anders.meiton@gobius.se [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi
We are a small Sailing club in Sweden and we are Sinclair years having an old system.
We practice hunting start. Can sailwave manage that?

//Anders

Huw2 · 3 May 2019 17:45

Jon,

  My guess would be a what we know as a pursuit race and the

Americans as a rabbit race.

Kind regards,

Huw

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jon@sailwave.com

Hi Anders,
Welcome to Sailwave. Sorry could you explain
what you mean by hunting start.

Regards

Jon

Jon Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

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17:01, anders.meiton@gobius.se
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Hi
We are a small Sailing club in Sweden and we
are Sinclair years having an old system.
We practice hunting start. Can sailwave manage
that?
                      //Anders

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Anders_Meiton · 3 May 2019 18:10

Thank you, for helping me to find the right name, Pursuit Race.

Is it possible to use Sailwave?

//Anders

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Ämne: Re: [sailwave] Hunting start

In Canada we call that a Pursuit race. At our club we have a spreadsheet with minutes per mile for all boats. then we start them grouped at 1 or 2 minute intervals depending on the race length.

After that Sailwave takes over as a non-handicapped race; be glad to send you copy

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 1:46 PM ‘Anders Meiton’ anders.meiton@gobius.se [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi

The slowest boats starts first and the fastest later. The handicap is saying which time you will start.

I’m not sure Hunting start is the correct word, I took it from Google translate.

We use to be 10 boats every Tuesday evening.

Today we use an very old data system, only supporting older Windows.

Have a nice day,

Fair Winds/Vänliga hälsningar,

Anders Meiton, Managing Director
Gobius Sensor Technology AB**
Ljungåsvägen 2
302 91 Halmstad**

Sweden

+46 (0)31 65 01 70, office
+46 (0)70 84 90 627, mobile
www.gobius.se

www.gobiuspro.com

Gobius Pro nominated for the DAME Award 2018

If you have time, please visit www.hss1910.nu

Från: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
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Hi Anders,

Welcome to Sailwave. Sorry could you explain what you mean by hunting start.

Regards

Jon

Jon Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 17:01, anders.meiton@gobius.se [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi
We are a small Sailing club in Sweden and we are Sinclair years having an old system.
We practice hunting start. Can sailwave manage that?

//Anders

Art_Engel · 4 May 2019 03:49

I have heard Americans use either "inverted start race" or "pursuit
race." Never, "rabbit."

The term "rabbit start" is when one boat sails upwind on a tack and all
boats must pass behind that boat on the opposite tack. The first boat is
referred to as the "rabbit" (you probably want a slower or
middle-of-the-fleet boat to be the rabbit). The idea is that no race
committee is necessary for the start and all boats are at approximately
the same distance upwind as the stern of the rabbit when they pass
behind the rabbit's transom. So, while the "rabbit" might have a small
advantage (in terms of upwind distance) the rest of the fleet starts
approximately equal. Of course, the "rabbit" has the potential
disadvantage of being stuck on one tack until all boats have passed
astern of her.

Art

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On 5/3/2019 10:45 AM, Huw Pearce huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk [sailwave] wrote:

Jon,

My guess would be a what we know as a pursuit race and the Americans as
a rabbit race.

Kind regards,

Huw

On 03/05/2019 17:39, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] wrote:

Hi Anders,
Welcome to Sailwave.� Sorry could you explain what�you mean by hunting
start.

Regards

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On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 17:01, anders.meiton@gobius.se >> <mailto:anders.meiton@gobius.se> [sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

    Hi
    We are a small Sailing club in Sweden and we are Sinclair years
    having an old system.
    We practice hunting start. Can sailwave manage that?

    //Anders

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kirk · 4 May 2019 03:42

Quite right, but usually the rabbit has only to stay on her tack for few minutes. It is amazing how well it works even for keel boats

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Subject: Re: [sailwave] Hunting start

I have heard Americans use either “inverted start race” or "pursuit

race." Never, “rabbit.”

The term “rabbit start” is when one boat sails upwind on a tack and all

boats must pass behind that boat on the opposite tack. The first boat is

referred to as the “rabbit” (you probably want a slower or

middle-of-the-fleet boat to be the rabbit). The idea is that no race

committee is necessary for the start and all boats are at approximately

the same distance upwind as the stern of the rabbit when they pass

behind the rabbit’s transom. So, while the “rabbit” might have a small

advantage (in terms of upwind distance) the rest of the fleet starts

approximately equal. Of course, the “rabbit” has the potential

disadvantage of being stuck on one tack until all boats have passed

astern of her.

Art

On 5/3/2019 10:45 AM, Huw Pearce huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk [sailwave] wrote:

Jon,

My guess would be a what we know as a pursuit race and the Americans as

a rabbit race.

Kind regards,

Huw

On 03/05/2019 17:39, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] wrote:

Hi Anders,

Welcome to Sailwave. Sorry could you explain what you mean by hunting

start.

Regards

Jon

 Jon Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 17:01, anders.meiton@gobius.se >> mailto:anders.meiton@gobius.se [sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com >> mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi

We are a small Sailing club in Sweden and we are Sinclair years

having an old system.

We practice hunting start. Can sailwave manage that?

//Anders

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Sailwave · 4 May 2019 05:43

Hi Anders,

Yes, you can use Sailwave for pursuit races.

There are several ways of running pursuit races.

In its simplest form the results are the positions they cross the finishing line.

The difficult part is working out the start times. But many clubs also like to record the finishing times so that competitors can see by how much they won or lost, and organisers may use to adjust the ratings for future races. Sailwave can do this for you.

In addition to all the features built into Sailwave there is also this extra addon which works with Sailwave specially for calculating and setting starts for pursuit races. You can watch a video about it here http://www.screencast.com/t/y9I1STtFcxG

Details of the program are here https://sites.google.com/site/eskdalesite/home/swph

If you need any help please let us know

Regards

Jon

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Anders_Meiton · 4 May 2019 07:19

Thank you Jon

I will discuss this with HSS, our sailing club, this week.

May be I will need your support later on.

Have a nice weekend.

Fair Winds/Vänliga hälsningar,

Anders Meiton, Managing Director
Gobius Sensor Technology AB**
Ljungåsvägen 2
302 91 Halmstad**

Sweden

+46 (0)31 65 01 70, office
+46 (0)70 84 90 627, mobile
www.gobius.se

www.gobiuspro.com

Gobius Pro nominated for the DAME Award 2018

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Hi Anders,

Yes, you can use Sailwave for pursuit races.

There are several ways of running pursuit races.

In its simplest form the results are the positions they cross the finishing line.

The difficult part is working out the start times. But many clubs also like to record the finishing times so that competitors can see by how much they won or lost, and organisers may use to adjust the ratings for future races. Sailwave can do this for you.

In addition to all the features built into Sailwave there is also this extra addon which works with Sailwave specially for calculating and setting starts for pursuit races. You can watch a video about it here http://www.screencast.com/t/y9I1STtFcxG

Details of the program are here https://sites.google.com/site/eskdalesite/home/swph

If you need any help please let us know

Regards

Jon

Jon Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

.

MalcolmO · 4 May 2019 11:13

Art,

This is normally termed Gate Start, with the rabbit being the boat chosen to set off on port to open the gate.

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei, South Africa

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On 2019-05-04 05:49, Art Engel art@racingrules.org [sailwave] wrote:

I have heard Americans use either "inverted start race" or "pursuit
race." Never, "rabbit."

The term "rabbit start" is when one boat sails upwind on a tack and all
boats must pass behind that boat on the opposite tack. The first boat is
referred to as the "rabbit" (you probably want a slower or
middle-of-the-fleet boat to be the rabbit). The idea is that no race
committee is necessary for the start and all boats are at approximately
the same distance upwind as the stern of the rabbit when they pass
behind the rabbit's transom. So, while the "rabbit" might have a small
advantage (in terms of upwind distance) the rest of the fleet starts
approximately equal. Of course, the "rabbit" has the potential
disadvantage of being stuck on one tack until all boats have passed
astern of her.

Art

On 5/3/2019 10:45 AM, Huw Pearce huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk [sailwave] wrote:

Jon,

My guess would be a what we know as a pursuit race and the Americans as
a rabbit race.

Kind regards,

Huw

On 03/05/2019 17:39, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] wrote:

Hi Anders,
Welcome to Sailwave.� Sorry could you explain what�you mean by hunting
start.

Regards

Jon

� � �Jon Eskdale

� �03333 443377
� �07530 112233

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     Hi
     We are a small Sailing club in Sweden and we are Sinclair years
     having an old system.
     We practice hunting start. Can sailwave manage that?

     //Anders

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