Importing Results

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1

Hi All,

I have been experimenting withan android app LSC - Dinghy Sailing (Still very Beta) Witten by Robbie at Lakeside Sailing Club. It’s quite simple as it only deals with 1 start at present but it would suite our club with a few little improvments it runs the start sequence and records laptimes and does create a text tile that can be imported to sailwave. I have asked Robbie to tweak the race time (to seconds from thousands and add a Laps field). I have had to edit his output file to add a race number to get it to import to sailwave,

Is there any chance at a later version

  1. sailwave could prompt for a race number on import, as each file created is for an indivual race. Or maybe create a new race in race number is 0.

  2. Does sailwave look for any race information in the import file such as Name, Date and Times of race? If so how does this need to entered in the file?

  3. Sailwave remembers the mapping, HelmName, SailNo, Class, not so for RaceNo Elapsed and Laps is this by design?

Many thanks In advance

Keith

2

Hi Keith

Can’t be of any help but wanted to jump on what you had going as it has some interesting points.

We recently stopped using the import function as it was too easy to overwrite existing races in a series.

I like your idea of prompting for a race number during the import and to add to that have a clarification pop up if there was already any results in the race number that has been assigned to prevent the problem of overwriting. To the average Sunday OOD its not visible that has been done until its too late

Matt

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On Friday, June 15, 2018, 5:43:12 PM GMT+1, keithsykes69@yahoo.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi All,

I have been experimenting withan android app LSC - Dinghy Sailing (Still very Beta) Witten by Robbie at Lakeside Sailing Club. It’s quite simple as it only deals with 1 start at present but it would suite our club with a few little improvments it runs the start sequence and records laptimes and does create a text tile that can be imported to sailwave. I have asked Robbie to tweak the race time (to seconds from thousands and add a Laps field). I have had to edit his output file to add a race number to get it to import to sailwave,

Is there any chance at a later version

  1. sailwave could prompt for a race number on import, as each file created is for an indivual race. Or maybe create a new race in race number is 0.

  2. Does sailwave look for any race information in the import file such as Name, Date and Times of race? If so how does this need to entered in the file?

  3. Sailwave remembers the mapping, HelmName, SailNo, Class, not so for RaceNo Elapsed and Laps is this by design?

Many thanks In advance

Keith

3

If we are having a vote, then I also think this is a good idea to prompt for the race number and warn if it already contains results.

In answer to the question about how the import works; Jon pointed me to this link on the web site:

https://www.sailwave.com/how-do-i-import-a-list-of-race-results

What I am still not 100% sure about is what to do with a mix of times and codes. I am assuming that they need to be two columns, with Null entries for the Code when entering a Time and vice versa.

Mark.

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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 18 June 2018 22:14
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Importing Results

Hi Keith

Can’t be of any help but wanted to jump on what you had going as it has some interesting points.

We recently stopped using the import function as it was too easy to overwrite existing races in a series.

I like your idea of prompting for a race number during the import and to add to that have a clarification pop up if there was already any results in the race number that has been assigned to prevent the problem of overwriting. To the average Sunday OOD its not visible that has been done until its too late

Matt

On Friday, June 15, 2018, 5:43:12 PM GMT+1, keithsykes69@yahoo.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi All,

I have been experimenting withan android app LSC - Dinghy Sailing (Still very Beta) Witten by Robbie at Lakeside Sailing Club. It’s quite simple as it only deals with 1 start at present but it would suite our club with a few little improvments it runs the start sequence and records laptimes and does create a text tile that can be imported to sailwave. I have asked Robbie to tweak the race time (to seconds from thousands and add a Laps field). I have had to edit his output file to add a race number to get it to import to sailwave,

Is there any chance at a later version

  1. sailwave could prompt for a race number on import, as each file created is for an indivual race. Or maybe create a new race in race number is 0.

  2. Does sailwave look for any race information in the import file such a s Name, Date and Times of race? If so how does this need to entered in the file?

  3. Sailwave remembers the mapping, HelmName, SailNo, Class, not so for RaceNo Elapsed and Laps is this by design?

Many thanks In advance

Keith

4

Hi Mark,

Sometimes an example is easier.

raceno, class, sailno, start, finish, code

4, Topper, 234221, 16:05, 17:02

4, Tiger F18, 1111, 16:05, 16:59

3, Dart 18, 6885, 13:00, 14:01, OCS

3, Stealth R, 516, 13:00, 14:22

3, Topper, 234221, 13:00, 15:06,

3, Tiger F18, 1111, 13:00, 14:02, BFD

4, Dart 18, 6885, 16:05, 17:34

4, Stealth R, 516, DNF

This is a sample with both codes and times

If we look at line 3 this results in

image.png

Where both Start time and finish time are entered, the elapsed time is calculated.

And the code is set to OCS so if there is a protest and the OCS is withdrawn then the times are already there.

if no times are supplied then you get a result as below

image.png

I will look into the ability to prompt for Race number

Regards

Jon

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Hi Jon,

Is there a way to import just the raceno & sailno and have Sailwave assign the place like in the Sail num Wizard?

Cheers,

Peter

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On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Mark,

Sometimes an example is easier.

raceno, class, sailno, start, finish, code

4, Topper, 234221, 16:05, 17:02

4, Tiger F18, 1111, 16:05, 16:59

3, Dart 18, 6885, 13:00, 14:01, OCS

3, Stealth R, 516, 13:00, 14:22

3, Topper, 234221, 13:00, 15:06,

3, Tiger F18, 1111, 13:00, 14:02, BFD

4, Dart 18, 6885, 16:05, 17:34

4, Stealth R, 516, DNF

This is a sample with both codes and times

If we look at line 3 this results in

Where both Start time and finish time are entered, the elapsed time is calculated.

And the code is set to OCS so if there is a protest and the OCS is withdrawn then the times are already there.

if no times are supplied then you get a result as below

I will look into the ability to prompt for Race number

Regards

Jon

Jon Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 at 22:34, ‘Mark Warren’ junkemail@talktalk.net [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

If we are having a vote, then I also think this is a good idea to prompt for the race number and warn if it already contains results.

In answer to the question about how the import works; Jon pointed me to this link on the web site:

https://www.sailwave.com/how-do-i-import-a-list-of-race-results

What I am still not 100% sure about is what to do with a mix of times and codes. I am assuming that they need to be two columns, with Null entries for the Code when entering a Time and vice versa.

Mark.

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 18 June 2018 22:14
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Importing Results

Hi Keith

Can’t be of any help but wanted to jump on what you had going as it has some interesting points.

We recently stopped using the import function as it was too easy to overwrite existing races in a series.

I like your idea of prompting for a race number during the import and to add to that have a clarification pop up if there was already any results in the race number that has been assigned to prevent the problem of overwriting. To the average Sunday OOD its not visible that has been done until its too late

Matt

On Friday, June 15, 2018, 5:43:12 PM GMT+1, keithsykes69@yahoo.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi All,

I have been experimenting withan android app LSC - Dinghy Sailing (Still very Beta) Witten by Robbie at Lakeside Sailing Club. It’s quite simple as it only deals with 1 start at present but it would suite our club with a few little improvments it runs the start sequence and records laptimes and does create a text tile that can be imported to sailwave. I have asked Robbie to tweak the race time (to seconds from thousands and add a Laps field). I have had to edit his output file to add a race number to get it to import to sailwave,

Is there any chance at a later version

  1. sailwave could prompt for a race number on import, as each file created is for an indivual race. Or maybe create a new race in race number is 0.
  1. Does sailwave look for any race information in the import file such a s Name, Date and Times of race? If so how does this need to entered in the file?
  1. Sailwave remembers the mapping, HelmName, SailNo, Class, not so for RaceNo Elapsed and Laps is this by design?

Many thanks In advance

Keith

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Hi Peter

Not currently in Sailwave but have a look when I get a few minutes

However, it is possible using the import feature in the SWGP program I wrote some years ago https://sites.google.com/site/eskdalesite/home/sailwave-multi-lap-finishing-grand-prix

This has an addition to its main function a couple of other features one of which is a simple CSV results import

From the documentation

Results Import
Simple CSV Import

An additional feature is the ability to import results that can be inserted into Sailwave

It currently supports 2 different

  • Import from a simple CSV file
  • Import from SailRacer or another website

The Import Simple CSV is an extra which allows results in the format

RaceNo, SailNo, Code

to be read into the program. The results are verified that the SailNo’s are not duplicated and that they are valid Sail No.s

Example
1,234,
,236,
,239,
,254,OCS
,236,OCS

this is for Race 1
Sail nos are finished 234,236,239 in that order

254 will not have a position but will have OCS
236 will have a position of 2nd but also an OCS (Both will be entered into Sailwave)

So as you will see once you specify a position the others are autoincremented

Which some might find useful

Regards

Jon

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Jon Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Mark,

Sometimes an example is easier.

raceno, class, sailno, start, finish, code

4, Topper, 234221, 16:05, 17:02

4, Tiger F18, 1111, 16:05, 16:59

3, Dart 18, 6885, 13:00, 14:01, OCS

3, Stealth R, 516, 13:00, 14:22

3, Topper, 234221, 13:00, 15:06,

3, Tiger F18, 1111, 13:00, 14:02, BFD

4, Dart 18, 6885, 16:05, 17:34

4, Stealth R, 516, DNF

This is a sample with both codes and times

If we look at line 3 this results in

Where both Start time and finish time are entered, the elapsed time is calculated.

And the code is set to OCS so if there is a protest and the OCS is withdrawn then the times are already there.

if no times are supplied then you get a result as below

I will look into the ability to prompt for Race number

Regards

Jon

Jon Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 at 22:34, ‘Mark Warren’ junkemail@talktalk.net [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

If we are having a vote, then I also think this is a good idea to prompt for the race number and warn if it already contains results.

In answer to the question about how the import works; Jon pointed me to this link on the web site:

https://www.sailwave.com/how-do-i-import-a-list-of-race-results

What I am still not 100% sure about is what to do with a mix of times and codes. I am assuming that they need to be two columns, with Null entries for the Code when entering a Time and vice versa.

Mark.

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 18 June 2018 22:14
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Importing Results

Hi Keith

Can’t be of any help but wanted to jump on what you had going as it has some interesting points.

We recently stopped using the import function as it was too easy to overwrite existing races in a series…

I like your idea of prompting for a race number during the import and to add to that have a clarification pop up if there was already any results in the race number that has been assigned to prevent the problem of overwriting. To the average Sunday OOD its not visible that has been done until its too late

Matt

On Friday, June 15, 2018, 5:43:12 PM GMT+1, keithsykes69@yahoo.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi All,

I have been experimenting withan android app LSC - Dinghy Sailing (Still very Beta) Witten by Robbie at Lakeside Sailing Club. It’s quite simple as it only deals with 1 start at present but it would suite our club with a few little improvments it runs the start sequence and records laptimes and does create a text tile that can be imported to sailwave. I have asked Robbie to tweak the race time (to seconds from thousands and add a Laps field). I have had to edit his output file to add a race number to get it to import to sailwave,

Is there any chance at a later version

1… sailwave could prompt for a race number on import, as each file created is for an indivual race. Or maybe create a new race in race number is 0.

  1. Does sailwave look for any race information in the import file such a s Name, Date and Times of race? If so how does this need to entered in the file?
  1. Sailwave remembers the mapping, HelmName, SailNo, Class, not so for RaceNo Elapsed and Laps is this by design?

Many thanks In advance

Keith

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Hi John,

Quick update, Robbie has now updated the android app (LSC Dinghy) to create a sailwave compatible file and this works well for small fleets upto 40 boats single start

Just wondered is it may be possible for sailwave to remember the import field settings.

It seem to remember the competitor selection but not the race fields (Image attached)

Robbie is still to add a Code option and is looking at adding a fleet import in the future & maybe rolling starts and recal, abandon sound signals

Incase anyone want to take a look haere are sme top tips (1 check out the help!!)

Settings - Degug reduces start sequence to 2,1, seconds

Settings - Sailwave on creates .csv file for import to sailwave

Long press edits competitors in fleet., short press adds boats to next race

Race number press to increase long press decrease number

You can edit the whole fleet in settings Edit fleet info - only supports 40 boats must be 40 boats

Pasting in a whole fleet works but you may need to delete an unwanted leading CR to improve layout

When race complete Review Results, Saved results, select the csv and share you can then email it to yourself for import to sailwave

Cheers

Keith

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Hi Keith,

If you click the “Press this button for Sailwave to guess any unmapped fields” does that not fill them in for you?

Would it not be nice if the Android App stored the file on a dropbox or google drive so there was no need to email and it could be imported directly.

Perhaps he could also use SWCList (Installed with Sailwave) to create a csv of the competitors which his app could pickup to save entering their details and again via a Google Drive or Dropbox would make this simple.

Jon

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Thanks John,

I missed that button, must get my eyes tested, works well especially as elapsed overrides position.

(I should hace looked harder especially knowing how flexible sailwave is.)

I might get Robbie to remove the individual lap times as these all map to Laps but it actually imports the correct one.

I have now installed the dropbox app on my phone and LSC now shares to dropbox so this saves a couple of operations, Good Idea that thanks.

I had already exported competitors using copy to clipboard but SWClist is much simpler. I shall pass back to info back to Robbie.

I still think some flexability as to which race to import / overwite / safety check would be good in the future.

Many thanks as always

Keith

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Keith,

I think that the facility to keep all the lap times is useful in situations where the RO decides the last lap was unfair and wants to revert to the previous one. We do that occasionally with competitor consultation. If Sailwave deals with the current setup for laps then please don’t alter lap recording.

How does one import boat data to the app - perhaps I’m missing something? I already use and understand the options to export from Sailwave.

What does the Sailwave option in Settings do?

I had a look at the “.txt” file created and found times recorded to 1/1000 of a second. In real life, the vast majority of times will be recorded to the nearest second (if that!) and the resulting corrected time rounded to the nearest second (for the PY system) before ranking. The one test calculation that I’ve done was 1 second different from the app’s calculation recorded in the “.txt” file. Competitors will check the calculation in their own way based on the published output and complain if it’s “wrong”. So I suggest that the underlying data needs to exactly equal the published data which is generally based on whole seconds; the app needs to achieve that at the start of the corrected time calculation.

Keep developing!

Regards,

www.chanonry.org.uk

···

Richard

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Hello

Where can I find out more about the LSC Dinghy app and will it work on iPhone?

Thank You
John Williams

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On 21 Jun 2018, at 14:28, ‘Richard Evans (GMail)’ richardf.evans@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Keith,

I think that the facility to keep all the lap times is useful in situations where the RO decides the last lap was unfair and wants to revert to the previous one. We do that occasionally with competitor consultation. If Sailwave deals with the current setup for laps then please don’t alter lap recording.

How does one import boat data to the app - perhaps I’m missing something? I already use and understand the options to export from Sailwave.

What does the Sailwave option in Settings do?

I had a look at the “.txt” file created and found times recorded to 1/1000 of a second. In real life, the vast majority of times will be recorded to the nearest second (if that!) and the resulting corrected time rounded to the nearest second (for the PY system) before ranking. The one test calculation that I’ve done was 1 second different from the app’s calculation recorded in the “.txt” file. Competitors will check the calculation in their own way based on the published output and complain if it’s “wrong”. So I suggest that the underlying data needs to exactly equal the published data which is generally based on whole seconds; the app needs to achieve that at the start of the corrected time calculation.

Keep developing!

Regards,

Richard

www…chanonry.org.uk

On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 at 13:10, keithsykes69@yahoo.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Thanks John,

I missed that button, must get my eyes tested, works well especially as elapsed overrides position.

(I should hace looked harder especially knowing how flexible sailwave is.)

I might get Robbie to remove the individual lap times as these all map to Laps but it actually imports the correct one.

I have now installed the dropbox app on my phone and LSC now shares to dropbox so this saves a couple of operations, Good Idea that thanks.

I had already exported competitors using copy to clipboard but SWClist is much simpler. I shall pass back to info back to Robbie.

I still think some flexability as to which race to import / overwite / safety check would be good in the future.

Many thanks as always

Keith

12

Hi John,
The app is an android app and it is in the Play store

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.g0hyn.racecontrol&hl=en_GB

As it is an Android app it won’t work on an iPhone or iPad without the author creating an iOs version which is still quite a bit of work to do even if you have an Android version.

One day when I get some free time I must write an iOS app. I have all the tools and have signed up and paid my fees to Apple but have not as yet written an iOS app. I have written Android apps in the past - NFC Tally system. Perhaps I should write an iOS timing input app for Sailwave

Jon

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03333 443377

07530 112233

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Jon

I look forward to helping you test the iOS app… hopefully it will capture timed finishes

Thank You
John Williams

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On 21 Jun 2018, at 15:20, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi John,
The app is an android app and it is in the Play store

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.g0hyn.racecontrol&hl=en_GB

As it is an Android app it won’t work on an iPhone or iPad without the author creating an iOs version which is still quite a bit of work to do even if you have an Android version.

One day when I get some free time I must write an iOS app. I have all the tools and have signed up and paid my fees to Apple but have not as yet written an iOS app. I have written Android apps in the past - NFC Tally system. Perhaps I should write an iOS timing input app for Sailwave

Jon
Jon Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 at 13:55, John Williams ejwjohn@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hello

Where can I find out more about the LSC Dinghy app and will it work on iPhone?

Thank You
John Williams
Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Jun 2018, at 14:28, ‘Richard Evans (GMail)’ richardf.evans@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Keith,

I think that the facility to keep all the lap times is useful in situations where the RO decides the last lap was unfair and wants to revert to the previous one. We do that occasionally with competitor consultation. If Sailwave deals with the current setup for laps then please don’t alter lap recording.

How does one import boat data to the app - perhaps I’m missing something? I already use and understand the options to export from Sailwave.

What does the Sailwave option in Settings do?

I had a look at the “.txt” file created and found times recorded to 1/1000 of a second. In real life, the vast majority of times will be recorded to the nearest second (if that!) and the resulting corrected time rounded to the nearest second (for the PY system) before ranking. The one test calculation that I’ve done was 1 second different from the app’s calculation recorded in the “.txt” file. Competitors will check the calculation in their own way based on the published output and complain if it’s “wrong”. So I suggest that the underlying data needs to exactly equal the published data which is generally based on whole seconds; the app needs to achieve that at the start of the corrected time calculation.

Keep developing!

Regards,

Richard

www…chanonry.org.uk

On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 at 13:10, keithsykes69@yahoo.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Thanks John,

I missed that button, must get my eyes tested, works well especially as elapsed overrides position.

(I should hace looked harder especially knowing how flexible sailwave is.)

I might get Robbie to remove the individual lap times as these all map to Laps but it actually imports the correct one.

I have now installed the dropbox app on my phone and LSC now shares to dropbox so this saves a couple of operations, Good Idea that thanks.

I had already exported competitors using copy to clipboard but SWClist is much simpler. I shall pass back to info back to Robbie.

I still think some flexability as to which race to import / overwite / safety check would be good in the future.

Many thanks as always

Keith

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Hi John,

You might be interested in this iOS app then

Kind regards,

Huw

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https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/iyachtcalc/id595780204?mt=8
On 21/06/2018 14:46, John Williams
[sailwave] wrote:

ejwjohn@gmail.com

Jon

          I look forward to helping you test the iOS app...

hopefully it will capture timed finishes

Thank You
John Williams
Sent from my iPhone

            On 21 Jun 2018, at 15:20, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com
            [sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com                >

wrote:

Hi John,
The app is an android app and it is in the
Play store

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.g0hyn.racecontrol&hl=en_GB

                        As it is an Android app it won't work on

an iPhone or iPad without the author
creating an iOs version which is still quite
a bit of work to do even if you have an
Android version.

                        One day when I get some free time I must

write an iOS app. I have all the tools and
have signed up and paid my fees to Apple but
have not as yet written an iOS app. I have
written Android apps in the past - NFC Tally
system. Perhaps I should write an iOS
timing input app for Sailwave

Jon
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Jon Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

                  On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 at 13:55, John

Williams ejwjohn@gmail.com
[sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com >
wrote:

Hello

                            Where can I find out more about the

LSC Dinghy app and will it work on
iPhone?

                              Thank

You
John Williams
Sent from my iPhone

                              On 21 Jun 2018, at 14:28, 'Richard

Evans (GMail)’ richardf.evans@gmail.com
[sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com >
wrote:

Keith,

                                      I

think that the facility to
keep all the lap times is
useful in situations where the
RO decides the last lap was
unfair and wants to revert to
the previous one. We do that
occasionally with competitor consultation.
If Sailwave deals with the
current setup for laps then
please don’t alter lap
recording.

                                      How

does one import boat data to
the app - perhaps I’m missing
something? I already use and
understand the options to
export from Sailwave.

                                      What

does the Sailwave option in
Settings do?

                                        I

had a look at the “.txt”
file created and found times
recorded to 1/1000 of a
second. In real life, the
vast majority of times will
be recorded to the nearest
second (if that!) and the
resulting corrected time
rounded to the nearest
second (for the
PY system ) before
ranking. The one test
calculation that I’ve done
was 1 second different from
the app’s calculation
recorded in the “.txt” file.
Competitors will check the
calculation in their own way
based on the published
output and complain if it’s
“wrong”. So I suggest that
the underlying data needs to
exactly equal the published
data which is ge nerally
based on whole seconds; the app needs to
achieve that at the start
of the corrected time
calculation.

                                        Keep

developing!

Regards,

Richard

www…chanonry.org.uk

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2018 at 13:10, keithsykes69@yahoo.com
[sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com >
wrote:

                                                  Thanks

John,

                                                I missed that

button, must get my
eyes tested, works
well especially as
elapsed overrides
position.

                                                (I should hace

looked harder
especially knowing
how flexible
sailwave is.)

I m ight
get Robbie to
remove the
individual lap
times as these all
map to Laps but it
actually imports
the correct one.

                                                I have now

installed the
dropbox app on my
phone and LSC now
shares to dropbox so
this saves a couple
of operations, Good
Idea that thanks.

                                                  I

had already
exported
competitors using
copy to clipboard
but SWClist is
much simpler. I
shall pass back to
info back to
Robbie.

                                                I still think

some flexability as
to which race to
import / overwite /
safety check would
be good in the
future.< /div>

                                                  Many thanks as

always

Keith


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Hi John,

Here is another one as well

Kind regards,

Huw

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http://www.541go.com/541go-iphone-app/
On 21/06/2018 15:04, Huw Pearce
[sailwave] wrote:

huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk

Hi John,

You might be interested in this iOS app then

Kind regards,

Huw

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/iyachtcalc/id595780204?mt=8
On 21/06/2018 14:46, John
Williams [sailwave] wrote:

ejwjohn@gmail.com

Jon

              I look forward to helping you test the iOS app...

hopefully it will capture timed finishes

Thank You
John Williams
Sent from my iPhone

                On 21 Jun 2018, at 15:20, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com
                [sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com                    >

wrote:

Hi John,
The app is an android app and it is in
the Play store

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.g0hyn.racecontrol&hl=en_GB

                            As it is an Android app it won't work

on an iPhone or iPad without the author
creating an iOs version which is still
quite a bit of work to do even if you
have an Android version.

                            One day when I get some free time I

must write an iOS app. I have all the
tools and have signed up and paid
my fees to Apple but have not as yet
written an iOS app. I have written
Android apps in the past - NFC Tally
system. Perhaps I should write an iOS
timing input app for Sailwave

Jon
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Jon
Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

                      On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 at 13:55,

John Williams ejwjohn@gmail.com
[sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com >
wrote:

Hello

                                Where can I find out more about

the LSC Dinghy app and will it work
on iPhone?

                                  Thank

You
John Williams
Sent from my iPhone

                                  On 21 Jun 2018, at 14:28, 'Richard

Evans (GMail)’ richardf.evans@gmail.com
[sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com >
wrote:

Keith,

                                          I

think that the facility to
keep all the lap times is
useful in situations where
the RO decides the last
lap was unfair and wants
to revert to the previous
one. We do that
occasionally with competitor consultation.
If Sailwave deals with the
current setup for laps
then please don’t alter
lap recording.

                                          How

does one import boat data
to the app - perhaps I’m
missing something? I
already use and understand
the options to export from
Sailwave.

                                          What

does the Sailwave option
in Settings do?

                                            I

had a look at the “.txt”
file created and found
times recorded to 1/1000
of a second. In real
life, the vast majority
of times will be
recorded to the nearest
second (if that!) and
the resulting corrected
time rounded to the
nearest second (for the PY system )
before ranking. The one
test calculation that
I’ve done was 1 second
different from the app’s
calculation recorded in
the “.txt” file.
Competitors will check
the calculation in their
own way based on the
published output and
complain if it’s
“wrong”. So I suggest
that the underlying data
needs to exactly equal
the published data which
is ge nerally based on
whole seconds; the app needs to
achieve that at the
start of the corrected
time calculation.

                                            Keep

developing!

Regards,

Richard

www…chanonry.org.uk

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                                          On Thu, 21

Jun 2018 at 13:10, keithsykes69@yahoo.com
[sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com >
wrote:

                                                      Thanks

John,

                                                    I missed that

button, must get
my eyes tested,
works well
especially as
elapsed
overrides
position.

                                                    (I should

hace looked
harder
especially
knowing how
flexible
sailwave is.)

I m ight
get Robbie to
remove the
individual lap
times as these
all map to
Laps but it
actually
imports the
correct one.

                                                    I have now

installed the
dropbox app on
my phone and LSC
now shares to
dropbox so this
saves a couple
of operations,
Good Idea that
thanks.

                                                      I

had already
exported
competitors
using copy to
clipboard but
SWClist is
much simpler.
I shall pass
back to info
back to
Robbie.

                                                    I still think

some flexability
as to which race
to import /
overwite /
safety check
would be good in
the future.<
/div>

                                                      Many thanks

as always

Keith


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Huw

Thanks for this does anyone know if I can export competitor and race info from/ to Sailwave

Thank You
John Williams

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On 21 Jun 2018, at 16:04, Huw Pearce huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi John,

You might be interested in this iOS app then

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/iyachtcalc/id595780204?mt=8

Kind regards,

Huw

  On 21/06/2018 14:46, John Williams

ejwjohn@gmail.com [sailwave] wrote:

Jon

          I look forward to helping you test the iOS app...

hopefully it will capture timed finishes

Thank You
John Williams
Sent from my iPhone


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            On 21 Jun 2018, at 15:20, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com
            [sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com                >

wrote:

Hi John,
The app is an android app and it is in the
Play store

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.g0hyn.racecontrol&hl=en_GB

                        As it is an Android app it won't work on

an iPhone or iPad without the author
creating an iOs version which is still quite
a bit of work to do even if you have an
Android version.

                        One day when I get some free time I must

write an iOS app. I have all the tools and
have signed up and paid my fees to Apple but
have not as yet written an iOS app. I have
written Android apps in the past - NFC Tally
system. Perhaps I should write an iOS
timing input app for Sailwave

Jon
< div
dir=“ltr”>
Jon Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

                  On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 at 13:55, John

Williams ejwjohn@gmail.com
[sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com >
wrote:

Hello

                            Where can I find out more about the

LSC Dinghy app and will it work on
iPhone?

                              Thank

You
John Williams
Sent from my iPhone

                              On 21 Jun 2018, at 14:28, 'Richard

Evans (GMail)’ richardf.evans@gmail.com
[sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com >
wrote:

Keith,

                                      I

think that the facility to
keep all the lap times is
useful in situations where the
RO decides the last lap was
unfair and wants to revert to
the previous one. We do that
occasionally with competitor consultation.
If Sailwave deals with the
current setup for laps then
please don’t alter lap
recording.

                                      How

does one import boat data to
the app - perhaps I’m missing
something? I already use and
understand the options to
export from Sailwave.

                                      What

does the Sailwave option in
Settings do?

                                        I

had a look at the “.txt”
file created and found times
recorded to 1/1000 of a
second. In real life, the
vast majority of times will
be recorded to the nearest
second (if that!) and the
resulting corrected time
rounded to the nearest
second (for the
PY system ) before
ranking. The one test
calculation that I’ve done
was 1 second different from
the app’s calculation
recorded in the “.txt” file.
Competitors will check the
calculation in their own way
based on the published
output and complain if it’s
“wrong”. So I suggest that
the underlying data needs to
exactly equal the published
data which is ge nerally
based on whole seconds; the app needs to
achieve that at the start
of the corrected time
calculation.

                                        Keep

developing!

Regards,

Richard

www…chanonry.org.uk

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                                      On Thu, 21 Jun

2018 at 13:10, keithsykes69@yahoo.com
[sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com >
wrote:

                                                  Thanks

John,

                                                I missed that

button, must get my
eyes tested, works
well especially as
elapsed overrides
position.

                                                (I should hace

looked harder
especially knowing
how flexible
sailwave is.)

I m ight
get Robbie to
remove the
individual lap
times as these all
map to Laps but it
actually imports
the correct one.

                                                I have now

installed the
dropbox app on my
phone and LSC now
shares to dropbox so
this saves a couple
of operations, Good
Idea that thanks.

                                                  I

had already
exported
competitors using
copy to clipboard
but SWClist is
much simpler. I
shall pass back to
info back to
Robbie.

                                                I still think

some flexability as
to which race to
import / overwite /
safety check would
be good in the
future.< /div>

                                                  Many thanks as

always

Keith

17

Hi Richard,

Robbie has been beavering away.

App is android only call " LSC Dinghy"

  1. Turn on the sailwave option in settings and the app outputs .csv for
    input into sailwave with times in seconds or mins:sec depending on setting
    "seconds’ in settings

  2. Importing fleet. (Pasting for now) ,import to follow.

Make sure you have exited the app at least one, as this sets up some
storage

This can be accomplished on the Edit Fleet screen in Settings,

Export fleet from sailwave using SWClist installed with sailwave change
heading and column order add extra column “Comma” as requires
trailing comma, Saved as CSV

Opened in Notepad (Copied all)

Used Google Keep as the link between PC and Phone so pasted into keep on
PC

Copied from Keep on Tablet phone (Remove “comma heading”)

Pasted OK with no extra CR / Lines into LSC

If you use other progs such as email the pasting adds an extra CR in
front of each entry, still works and can be eddited out but looks a bit messy

A little convoluted but OK for now as a one off a season job.

Have to be very careful to have 40 entries anything else fails.

Feel free to email directly with other questions as don’t wont to monopolise
sailwave forumn

Robbie is still developing more functionality so look out for updates.

Keith

keith.sykes@telecomsense.co.uk

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