I'm very impressed with the new beta version(s) that build on the work done previously. The sail number wizard is an absolute boon.
I really like the way in putting 4324 converts to 43m:24s as that makes inputting so much quicker and easier.
I have however not found a way around one problem - apologies if it's obvious or has previously been discussed.
We have a big event soon. All boats will be scored as one race, but will be split into slow, medium and fast. They will start 5 minutes aart. So, I set up 3 starts for each race with start time for first away as 00:00:00, start 2 00:05:00 and start 3 00:10:00. Then as boats finish we record elapsed time for all and actual elapsed time is automatically adjusted by 0. 5, or 10 minutes as appropriate.
Catch is that if you eneter 4324 it assumes thats an elapsed time of 43 days or possibly hours - either way it's no use, so you haave to revert to 00:43:24 format (I think 004324 works but thats still not as good as 'normal' system.
Is there a simpler way of automatically adjusting times by 5 and 10 minutes, and or is it possible to have the same style of inputting for staggered starts as for all at once starts?
Thanks
Keith
Hi Keith,
Thanks for you comments on the revised sail no wizard and I’m pleased you like them.
As for adjusting the elapsed times - I think you are using almost the most efficient method at them moment.
You can however get away by using just a single “0” if you enter the time as 04324 that will format it as 00:43:24 using the new sail number wizard when using finishing times as you propose. Whenever you enter 5 or 6 digits it will add the preceding 0 if required automatically.
Jon
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On 17 December 2012 19:02, keithescritt escritt@gmail.com wrote:
I’m very impressed with the new beta version(s) that build on the work done previously. The sail number wizard is an absolute boon.
I really like the way in putting 4324 converts to 43m:24s as that makes inputting so much quicker and easier.
I have however not found a way around one problem - apologies if it’s obvious or has previously been discussed.
We have a big event soon. All boats will be scored as one race, but will be split into slow, medium and fast. They will start 5 minutes aart. So, I set up 3 starts for each race with start time for first away as 00:00:00, start 2 00:05:00 and start 3 00:10:00. Then as boats finish we record elapsed time for all and actual elapsed time is automatically adjusted by 0. 5, or 10 minutes as appropriate.
Catch is that if you eneter 4324 it assumes thats an elapsed time of 43 days or possibly hours - either way it’s no use, so you haave to revert to 00:43:24 format (I think 004324 works but thats still not as good as ‘normal’ system.
Is there a simpler way of automatically adjusting times by 5 and 10 minutes, and or is it possible to have the same style of inputting for staggered starts as for all at once starts?
Thanks
Keith
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Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”
Jon,
I think there is still something that could be tweaked here - been queried before.
e.g. At a race start, a stop watch is activated at the first start, recording race elapsed times. With three starts, to record individual start elapsed times, 5 and 10 minutes has to be subtracted from start 2 and start 3 to get start elapsed times.
I don't think SW caters for setting start time 500 and 1000 to be able to do this subtraction, currently
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
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On 2012/12/17 22:00, Jon Eskdale wrote:
Hi Keith,
Thanks for you comments on the revised sail no wizard and I'm pleased you like them.
As for adjusting the elapsed times - I think you are using almost the most efficient method at them moment.
You can however get away by using just a single "0" if you enter the time as 04324 that will format it as 00:43:24 using the new sail number wizard when using finishing times as you propose. Whenever you enter 5 or 6 digits it will add the preceding 0 if required automatically.
Jon
On 17 December 2012 19:02, keithescritt <escritt@gmail.com > <mailto:escritt@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm very impressed with the new beta version(s) that build on the
work done previously. The sail number wizard is an absolute boon.
I really like the way in putting 4324 converts to 43m:24s as that
makes inputting so much quicker and easier.
I have however not found a way around one problem - apologies if
it's obvious or has previously been discussed.
We have a big event soon. All boats will be scored as one race,
but will be split into slow, medium and fast. They will start 5
minutes aart. So, I set up 3 starts for each race with start time
for first away as 00:00:00, start 2 00:05:00 and start 3 00:10:00.
Then as boats finish we record elapsed time for all and actual
elapsed time is automatically adjusted by 0. 5, or 10 minutes as
appropriate.
Catch is that if you eneter 4324 it assumes thats an elapsed time
of 43 days or possibly hours - either way it's no use, so you
haave to revert to 00:43:24 format (I think 004324 works but thats
still not as good as 'normal' system.
Is there a simpler way of automatically adjusting times by 5 and
10 minutes, and or is it possible to have the same style of
inputting for staggered starts as for all at once starts?
Thanks
Keith
--
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype "eskdale"
Keith
I’ll confess I haven’t installed the beta - was waiting for the season to finsih before breaking things!
You say you are using Start Times with Elapsed Time - I didn’t know that was possible. I’d have done this with start and finish times before, and I just lie about the start times:
Fleet = Fleet 1 - Start Time 00:00:00
Fleet = Fleet 2 - Start Time 00:05:00
Fleet = Fleet 3 - Start Time 00:10:00
Then you just enter in the finish time as 4324 and it seems to know its 43:24 and if they are fleet 2 the elapsed time shown on the sail wizard form is shown as 00:38:24
Even better - persaude the scorers to drop the stop watch and use a radio controlled clock. Two RC clocks on the boat are far more reliable. (Finding one with seconds is not that easy but I got one from Amazon a year or two ago… just need to find a supplier that pays some tax now !!) The scorers just record the actual start time and then the actual finish time and sailwave does the hard work. The advantage is no stop button to hit by accident. No need to hit start as someone honks a horn and someone pulls up a flag (one less hand needed per stopwatch). If it all goes pete tong and both clocks fail any other watch / clock can be used to record finish times and then ‘corrected’ by later refering to the atomic clock to work out how wrong the clock used was…
If you film your finish or dictate then the clock can be synced before the race and will then match up too…
Calum
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On 17 December 2012 19:02, keithescritt escritt@gmail.com wrote:
I’m very impressed with the new beta version(s) that build on the work done previously. The sail number wizard is an absolute boon.
I really like the way in putting 4324 converts to 43m:24s as that makes inputting so much quicker and easier.
I have however not found a way around one problem - apologies if it’s obvious or has previously been discussed.
We have a big event soon. All boats will be scored as one race, but will be split into slow, medium and fast. They will start 5 minutes aart. So, I set up 3 starts for each race with start time for first away as 00:00:00, start 2 00:05:00 and start 3 00:10:00. Then as boats finish we record elapsed time for all and actual elapsed time is automatically adjusted by 0. 5, or 10 minutes as appropriate.
Catch is that if you eneter 4324 it assumes thats an elapsed time of 43 days or possibly hours - either way it’s no use, so you haave to revert to 00:43:24 format (I think 004324 works but thats still not as good as ‘normal’ system.
Is there a simpler way of automatically adjusting times by 5 and 10 minutes, and or is it possible to have the same style of inputting for staggered starts as for all at once starts?
Thanks
Keith
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Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”
Hi Calum & Malcom
I think what Keith is doing is as Callum is suggesting that of setting a time of 00:00:00 for the first start and 00:05:00 for the second start etc. and then enter the elapsed time as if it is a Finish time (Real Time). This will work fine with the new version as long as you enter the time using the sail no wizard as either 004223 or 04223 both of these are then formatted and displayed as 00:42:23. What Keith was asking is could he drop the leading 0 when using Real time. He can do this if he is entering an elapsed time but not if it is a True time (Finish Time).
Although I do agree with Calum that using a Radio controlled Clock or watch is better and or safer solution.
Jon
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On 17 December 2012 22:17, yahoo@wittongilbert.free-online.co.uk wrote:
Keith
I’ll confess I haven’t installed the beta - was waiting for the season to finsih before breaking things!
You say you are using Start Times with Elapsed Time - I didn’t know that was possible. I’d have done this with start and finish times before, and I just lie about the start times:
Fleet = Fleet 1 - Start Time 00:00:00
Fleet = Fleet 2 - Start Time 00:05:00
Fleet = Fleet 3 - Start Time 00:10:00
Then you just enter in the finish time as 4324 and it seems to know its 43:24 and if they are fleet 2 the elapsed time shown on the sail wizard form is shown as 00:38:24
Even better - persaude the scorers to drop the stop watch and use a radio controlled clock. Two RC clocks on the boat are far more reliable. (Finding one with seconds is not that easy but I got one from Amazon a year or two ago… just need to find a supplier that pays some tax now !!) The scorers just record the actual start time and then the actual finish time and sailwave does the hard work. The advantage is no stop button to hit by accident. No need to hit start as someone honks a horn and someone pulls up a flag (one less hand needed per stopwatch). If it all goes pete tong and both clocks fail any other watch / clock can be used to record finish times and then ‘corrected’ by later refering to the atomic clock to work out how wrong the clock used was…
If you film your finish or dictate then the clock can be synced before the race and will then match up too…
Calum
On 2012-12-17 20:00, Jon Eskdale wrote:
Hi Keith,
Thanks for you comments on the revised sail no wizard and I’m pleased you like them.
As for adjusting the elapsed times - I think you are using almost the most efficient method at them moment.
You can however get away by using just a single “0” if you enter the time as 04324 that will format it as 00:43:24 using the new sail number wizard when using finishing times as you propose. Whenever you enter 5 or 6 digits it will add the preceding 0 if required automatically.
Jon
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Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”
On 17 December 2012 19:02, keithescritt escritt@gmail.com wrote:
I’m very impressed with the new beta version(s) that build on the work done previously. The sail number wizard is an absolute boon.
I really like the way in putting 4324 converts to 43m:24s as that makes inputting so much quicker and easier.
I have however not found a way around one problem - apologies if it’s obvious or has previously been discussed.
We have a big event soon. All boats will be scored as one race, but will be split into slow, medium and fast. They will start 5 minutes aart. So, I set up 3 starts for each race with start time for first away as 00:00:00, start 2 00:05:00 and start 3 00:10:00. Then as boats finish we record elapsed time for all and actual elapsed time is automatically adjusted by 0. 5, or 10 minutes as appropriate.
Catch is that if you eneter 4324 it assumes thats an elapsed time of 43 days or possibly hours - either way it’s no use, so you haave to revert to 00:43:24 format (I think 004324 works but thats still not as good as ‘normal’ system.
Is there a simpler way of automatically adjusting times by 5 and 10 minutes, and or is it possible to have the same style of inputting for staggered starts as for all at once starts?
Thanks
Keith
–
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”