Joomla for Sailwave

Imported from Yahoo
1

I’d be very interested in a Joomla component. I run several Joomla websites, and generally use Joomla to create new websites for special events.

As the original poster said, the current method is pretty clunky - I usually just designate a directory on the web site where the results need to be, and then point to those individual HTML files. For individual events, I set up dummy html files (or preload competitor lists) with pre-set names, then tell the folks scoring what they need to name their files before uploading.

My personal feeling is that a proper Joomla component for Sailwave should actually allow for upload of the Sailwave files and then parse the files into the same database as Joomla itself. By doing this, you get a bunch of other advantages, like the ability to link competitor info from Sailwave with Joomla user info, using a component like Community Builder, for example. You also get some pretty nice dynamic control of race data display, so administrators or even site viewers can quickly and easily add or remove data columns, do additional calculations on the data, etc., without going back to Sailwave and re-generating the file. I guess if you really wanted to get fancy, you could show histories of competitors. How cool would it be to be able to click on a competitor from any race result, and get a single page showing things like a photo of his boat, details of his crew, historical performance over all the races in the database, etc. Farther down the wish list would be a way to list all competitors on the Joomla site, check those who are going to compete that day, and have Joomla generate a file that could be imported to Sailwave for use by the scorer or on the water.

Been thinking about this a bit! I’m not an expert at PHP (I’ve done a bit…), but I’d be happy to contribute to this effort in any way I can.

Andy

(andy@sailor.nu)

2

Hi Andy,

The current component, which will always be the free and ‘basic’ version, allows the results files to be uploaded into a specific directory andwill then load the content from those files into the joomla template. Not as an iframe, but as part of the joomla generated output.

I’m also considering, later, a pro version (commanding a small fee) which would parse the data into the database and allow much more integration with searches and such like, but that’s a way off yet.

At the moment Joomla Sailwave is concentrating on results presentation and not going to be heading down the route of trying to turn into a regatta management system. TBH that would be a whole standalone project.

Cheers

Keith

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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Barrow
Sent: 05 November 2012 15:01
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Joomla for Sailwave

I’d be very interested in a Joomla component. I run several Joomla websites, and generally use Joomla to create new websites for special events.

As the original poster said, the current method is pretty clunky - I usually just designate a directory on the web site where the results need to be, and then point to those individual HTML files. For individual events, I set up dummy html files (or preload competitor lists) with pre-set names, then tell the folks scoring what they need to name their files before uploading.

My personal feeling is that a proper Joomla component for Sailwave should actually allow for upload of the Sailwave files and then parse the files into the same database as Joomla itself. By doing this, you get a bunch of other advantages, like the ability to link competitor info from Sailwave with Joomla user info, using a component like Community Builder, for example. You also get some pretty nice dynamic control of race data display, so administrators or even site viewers can quickly and easily add or remove data columns, do additional calculations on the data, etc., without going back to Sailwave and re-generating the file. I guess if you really wanted to get fancy, you could show histories of competitors. How cool would it be to be able to click on a competitor from any race result, and get a single page showing things like a photo of his boat, details of his crew, historical performance over all the races in the database, etc. Farther down the wish list would be a way to list all competitors on the Joomla site, check those who are going to compete that day, and have Joomla generate a file that could be imported to Sailwave for use by the scorer or on the water.

Been thinking about this a bit! I’m not an expert at PHP (I’ve done a bit…), but I’d be happy to contribute to this effort in any way I can.

Andy

(andy@sailor.nu)

3

I have a joomla developer that could help us, but I think what should be done is to outline the basic requirements first of what joomla users want to do and see, then once that works, we can expand.

Eddie

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--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Andy Barrow <andy@...> wrote:

I'd be very interested in a Joomla component. I run several Joomla
websites, and generally use Joomla to create new websites for special
events.

As the original poster said, the current method is pretty clunky - I
usually just designate a directory on the web site where the results need
to be, and then point to those individual HTML files. For individual
events, I set up dummy html files (or preload competitor lists) with
pre-set names, then tell the folks scoring what they need to name their
files before uploading.

My personal feeling is that a proper Joomla component for Sailwave should
actually allow for upload of the Sailwave files and then parse the files
into the same database as Joomla itself. By doing this, you get a bunch of
other advantages, like the ability to link competitor info from Sailwave
with Joomla user info, using a component like Community Builder, for
example. You also get some pretty nice dynamic control of race data
display, so administrators or even site viewers can quickly and easily add
or remove data columns, do additional calculations on the data, etc.,
without going back to Sailwave and re-generating the file. I guess if you
really wanted to get fancy, you could show histories of competitors. How
cool would it be to be able to click on a competitor from any race result,
and get a single page showing things like a photo of his boat, details of
his crew, historical performance over all the races in the database, etc.
Farther down the wish list would be a way to list all competitors on the
Joomla site, check those who are going to compete that day, and have Joomla
generate a file that could be imported to Sailwave for use by the scorer or
on the water.

Been thinking about this a bit! I'm not an expert at PHP (I've done a
bit...), but I'd be happy to contribute to this effort in any way I can.

Andy
(andy@...)

4

I’d be very interested in a Joomla component. I run several Joomla websites, and generally use Joomla to create new websites for special events.

As the original poster said, the current method is pretty clunky - I usually just designate a directory on the web site where the results need to be, and then point to those individual HTML files. For individual events, I set up dummy html files (or preload competitor lists) with pre-set names, then tell the folks scoring what they need to name their files before uploading.

For an event this works, but even then you either have to have the link pre published to a menu and a blank page appear or delay publishing the link. For something more than an event this is even more complex.

My personal feeling is that a proper Joomla component for Sailwave should actually allow for upload of the Sailwave files and then parse the files into the same database as Joomla itself.

Couldn’t agree more - BUT its a major piece of work

By doing this, you get a bunch of other advantages, like the ability to link competitor info from Sailwave with Joomla user info, using a component like Community Builder, for example.

But - you’d need to decide what you link… joomla user id to what field in sailwave? You can’t do sail number to helm easily as people change boat over different events

You also get some pretty nice dynamic control of race data display, so administrators or even site viewers can quickly and easily add or remove data columns, do additional calculations on the data, etc., without going back to Sailwave and re-generating the file.

Yes - but more work than you want to imagine!

I guess if you really wanted to get fancy, you could show histories of competitors. How cool would it be to be able to click on a competitor from any race result, and get a single page showing things like a photo of his boat, details of his crew, historical performance over all the races in the database, etc.

Once you can link a helm to something else you are on a winner. Differences in spelling, differences in full name or first letter and surname will cause issues. Its do-able with a well known results website. But really only for event entry not so much for club racing.

Farther down the wish list would be a way to list all competitors on the Joomla site, check those who are going to compete that day, and have Joomla generate a file that could be imported to Sailwave for use by the scorer or on the water.

You can do that in sailwave and publish it to Joomla ?

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On 2012-11-05 15:00, Andy Barrow wrote:

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We are going to use Jevents as our diary and its RSVP feature to allow event registration. Yet to configure it but the plan will be that it can produce an entry list to import into sailwave, score it in sailwave and then publish the result back to Joomla.

Ideally you’d be able to add and remove fields, sort, have extra hyperlinks etc from the results etc. However, it may actually be better to do that using something like JQuery than to do it from the Joomla database… But search would benefit from it being databased…

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On 2012-11-05 15:26, Keith Mountifield wrote:

At the moment Joomla Sailwave is concentrating on results presentation and not going to be heading down the route of trying to turn into a regatta management system. TBH that would be a whole standalone project.

6

Following a discussion with Andy a couple of months back on an event management component I have been off developing a Joomla Component that will better import a Sailwave File. It has just been accepted onto the Joomla Extensions Directory which should make it a bit more visible.

For those of you who don’t know what Joomla is - sorry this post is probably not for you - suffice to say its a website content management system that is a bit like Word Press. As a (biased) Joomla User I’d suggest its better geared to managing websites for clubs etc than WordPress is. The reality is they both came from different places - Joomla a Content Management System, WordPress a blogging platform but are actually both on simillar trajectories. If you have a Joomla based club or event website keep reading this post is for you…

Andy set out a wish list back in 2012 - copied below and I haven’t gone the full route he suggested. Instead I’ve gone for a component that I hope improves on the approach adopted in my previous post a year ago where I offered up a button to include a result in an article. At the moment that button is independent of this but it may well become part of the package in the future…

A proper Joomla component for Sailwave should actually allow for:

  • upload of the Sailwave files and then parse the files into the same database as Joomla itself.

Not strictly what I’m doing, rather I’m uploading the HTML file and importing the tables into a Joomla Article.

By doing this, you get a bunch of other advantages, like the ability to link competitor info from Sailwave with Joomla user info,

using a component like Community Builder, for example.

You would if the Sailwave file could identify the Joomla User. Unless the sign-up is on the Joomla site I’m not sure that will happen (certainly not with my race officers who last week managed to record finishing places and not times for a handicap race!)

You also get some pretty nice dynamic control of race data display, so administrators or even site viewers can quickly and easily

add or remove data columns, do additional calculations on the data, etc., without going back to Sailwave and re-generating the

file. I guess if you really wanted to get fancy, you could show histories of competitors. How cool would it be to be able to click on

a competitor from any race result, and get a single page showing things like a photo of his boat, details of his crew, historical

performance over all the races in the database, etc.

Actually - the competitor pages might be possible in the future - Its on the maybe for the future list. But for now my aim was just to get the results relatively seemlessly into Joomla.

There are some other things that getting the result within Joomla does. So my Joomla site uses a variety of extra components that do things for me:

  • Search (so you can now go to my club website, search my name and will see all results where I feature. [That may be the start of the above!!])

  • Newsletter Component that can send all content articles (or at least the intro text) - as we are trying to increase member engagement and involvement

  • FrontPage articles - I wanted to have a small news box showing when new results had been listed

  • We Auto Tweet & Facebook when news is uploaded

All of that needed more than a HTML page in a folder. We could use the “Blog” option in Sailwave. But that means I need to get my ODs to remember their club website passwords and trust that if they can post a result they don’t also post any jibberish etc.

Farther down the wish list would be a way to list all competitors on the Joomla site, check those who are going to compete that #

day, and have Joomla generate a file that could be imported to Sailwave for use by the scorer or on the water.

So this is where Andy and I started the other week - we are booth using JoomDonations Event Booking tool and its exporter of competitors isn’t perfect as you need to manipulate it to get entrants into Sailwave (Name is in Firstname and Surname columns for instance). This is likely to be added to the same component (or maybe one called SailwaveExporter) that will handle it…

···

So what I have created is:

  • You upload to a folder default SailwaveResults in a normal kind of way from Sailwave using FTP. (There is a new template to do that so that the event id from sailwave can be included)

  • Every 5 mins (time set by webmaster) system checks for new results

  • New result is checked for anything dodgy that would harm the site or anything missing like event id.

  • If all is good if its a new event a new Article is created, if its an updated result the original article is updated.

  • Article is posted to a Joomla Content Category of webmaster’s choosing

  • Webmaster chooses the style sheet to apply

  • Article intro includes a paragraph saying “Results have been uploaded for [EVENT NAME].” Says if provisional. Includes notes as intro text to allow OD to post some comments that improve engagement.

  • All automated

I’m still calling this a beta version - we have so far posted 1 event result in a live environment…

Available via:

http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/extension/sports-a-games/sports/sailwaveimporter

Available free and with GPL v2.0 licence.

Happy to have a link on sailwave website if Colin et al think it would be useful.

(Issues etc reported via the bitbucket site that hosts the code please as I don’t check here enough. https://bitbucket.org/shinysolutions/sre/issues )

On 2012-11-05 15:00, Andy Barrow wrote:

I’d be very interested in a Joomla component. I run several Joomla websites, and generally use Joomla to create new websites for special events.

As the original poster said, the current method is pretty clunky - I usually just designate a directory on the web site where the results need to be, and then point to those individual HTML files. For individual events, I set up dummy html files (or preload competitor lists) with pre-set names, then tell the folks scoring what they need to name their files before uploading.

My personal feeling is that a proper Joomla component for Sailwave should actually allow for upload of the Sailwave files and then parse the files into the same database as Joomla itself. By doing this, you get a bunch of other advantages, like the ability to link competitor info from Sailwave with Joomla user info, using a component like Community Builder, for example. You also get some pretty nice dynamic control of race data display, so administrators or even site viewers can quickly and easily add or remove data columns, do additional calculations on the data, etc., without going back to Sailwave and re-generating the file. I guess if you really wanted to get fancy, you could show histories of competitors. How cool would it be to be able to click on a competitor from any race result, and get a single page showing things like a photo of his boat, details of his crew, historical performance over all the races in the database, etc. Farther down the wish list would be a way to list all competitors on the Joomla site, check those who are going to compete that day, and have Joomla generate a file that could be imported to Sailwave for use by the scorer or on the water.

Been thinking about this a bit! I’m not an expert at PHP (I’ve done a bit…), but I’d be happy to contribute to this effort in any way I can.

Andy

(andy@sailor.nu)

7

Thanks Calum - I’ve put info about it on the Third Party section of the Sailwave Website with a link. I did notice the link specifies that you can download Sailwave from www.sailwave.org this should be www.sailwave.com. Thanks
Jon

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On 26 March 2016 at 12:57, yahoo@wittongilbert.free-online.co.uk [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Following a discussion with Andy a couple of months back on an event management component I have been off developing a Joomla Component that will better import a Sailwave File. It has just been accepted onto the Joomla Extensions Directory which should make it a bit more visible.

For those of you who don’t know what Joomla is - sorry this post is probably not for you - suffice to say its a website content management system that is a bit like Word Press. As a (biased) Joomla User I’d suggest its better geared to managing websites for clubs etc than WordPress is. The reality is they both came from different places - Joomla a Content Management System, WordPress a blogging platform but are actually both on simillar trajectories. If you have a Joomla based club or event website keep reading this post is for you…

Andy set out a wish list back in 2012 - copied below and I haven’t gone the full route he suggested. Instead I’ve gone for a component that I hope improves on the approach adopted in my previous post a year ago where I offered up a button to include a result in an article. At the moment that button is independent of this but it may well become part of the package in the future…

A proper Joomla component for Sailwave should actually allow for:

  • upload of the Sailwave files and then parse the files into the same database as Joomla itself.

Not strictly what I’m doing, rather I’m uploading the HTML file and importing the tables into a Joomla Article.

By doing this, you get a bunch of other advantages, like the ability to link competitor info from Sailwave with Joomla user info,

using a component like Community Builder, for example.

You would if the Sailwave file could identify the Joomla User. Unless the sign-up is on the Joomla site I’m not sure that will happen (certainly not with my race officers who last week managed to record finishing places and not times for a handicap race!)

You also get some pretty nice dynamic control of race data display, so administrators or even site viewers can quickly and easily

add or remove data columns, do additional calculations on the data, etc., without going back to Sailwave and re-generating the

file. I guess if you really wanted to get fancy, you could show histories of competitors. How cool would it be to be able to click on

a competitor from any race result, and get a single page showing things like a photo of his boat, details of his crew, historical

performance over all the races in the database, etc.

Actually - the competitor pages might be possible in the future - Its on the maybe for the future list. But for now my aim was just to get the results relatively seemlessly into Joomla.

There are some other things that getting the result within Joomla does. So my Joomla site uses a variety of extra components that do things for me:

  • Search (so you can now go to my club website, search my name and will see all results where I feature. [That may be the start of the above!!])
  • Newsletter Component that can send all content articles (or at least the intro text) - as we are trying to increase member engagement and involvement
  • FrontPage articles - I wanted to have a small news box showing when new results had been listed
  • We Auto Tweet & Facebook when news is uploaded

All of that needed more than a HTML page in a folder. We could use the “Blog” option in Sailwave. But that means I need to get my ODs to remember their club website passwords and trust that if they can post a result they don’t also post any jibberish etc.

Farther down the wish list would be a way to list all competitors on the Joomla site, check those who are going to compete that #

day, and have Joomla generate a file that could be imported to Sailwave for use by the scorer or on the water.

So this is where Andy and I started the other week - we are booth using JoomDonations Event Booking tool and its exporter of competitors isn’t perfect as you need to manipulate it to get entrants into Sailwave (Name is in Firstname and Surname columns for instance). This is likely to be added to the same component (or maybe one called SailwaveExporter) that will handle it…

So what I have created is:

  • You upload to a folder default SailwaveResults in a normal kind of way from Sailwave using FTP. (There is a new template to do that so that the event id from sailwave can be included)
  • Every 5 mins (time set by webmaster) system checks for new results
  • New result is checked for anything dodgy that would harm the site or anything missing like event id.
  • If all is good if its a new event a new Article is created, if its an updated result the original article is updated.
  • Article is posted to a Joomla Content Category of webmaster’s choosing
  • Webmaster chooses the style sheet to apply
  • Article intro includes a paragraph saying “Results have been uploaded for [EVENT NAME].” Says if provisional. Includes notes as intro text to allow OD to post some comments that improve engagement.
  • All automated

I’m still calling this a beta version - we have so far posted 1 event result in a live environment…

Available via:

http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/extension/sports-a-games/sports/sailwaveimporter

Available free and with GPL v2.0 licence.

Happy to have a link on sailwave website if Colin et al think it would be useful.

(Issues etc reported via the bitbucket site that hosts the code please as I don’t check here enough. https://bitbucket.org/shinysolutions/sre/issues )

On 2012-11-05 15:00, Andy Barrow wrote:

I’d be very interested in a Joomla component. I run several Joomla websites, and generally use Joomla to create new websites for special events.

As the original poster said, the current method is pretty clunky - I usually just designate a directory on the web site where the results need to be, and then point to those individual HTML files. For individual events, I set up dummy html files (or preload competitor lists) with pre-set names, then tell the folks scoring what they need to name their files before uploading.

My personal feeling is that a proper Joomla component for Sailwave should actually allow for upload of the Sailwave files and then parse the files into the same database as Joomla itself. By doing this, you get a bunch of other advantages, like the ability to link competitor info from Sailwave with Joomla user info, using a component like Community Builder, for example. You also get some pretty nice dynamic control of race data display, so administrators or even site viewers can quickly and easily add or remove data columns, do additional calculations on the data, etc., without going back to Sailwave and re-generating the file. I guess if you really wanted to get fancy, you could show histories of competitors. How cool would it be to be able to click on a competitor from any race result, and get a single page showing things like a photo of his boat, details of his crew, historical performance over all the races in the database, etc. Farther down the wish list would be a way to list all competitors on the Joomla site, check those who are going to compete that day, and have Joomla generate a file that could be imported to Sailwave for use by the scorer or on the water.

Been thinking about this a bit! I’m not an expert at PHP (I’ve done a bit…), but I’d be happy to contribute to this effort in any way I can.

Andy

(andy@sailor.nu)

Jon Eskdale
07530 112233

Skype “eskdale”

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Interesting that it seems no one seems to have done something similar for WordPress, not wanting to get into a WordPress versus Joomla debate - but statistically the number of WordPress websites dwarf Joomla.

I put something simple process together of ours (WordPress site), basically it allows any file name to be uploaded (ftp) from sailwave, then it strips the dom and adds it into a custom WordPress page template. ( I avoided using a custom SailWave template, as this means that the template would have to be loaded on to all PC’s uploading as it is local to the PC )

I then wrote some code to read the upload files directory to create the nav links automatically.

Doesn’t go any further than that, but it is effective. If anyone wants that bundled into a WordPress plugin I can take a look.

Alan

9

This looks like a great component. My first attempt at an install has failed and I’ve created an issue in the bitbucket.

I have been publishing the sailwave results on our website for some time, but without the sophistication this component will offer… See here

Race Results

image

Race Results
The best sailing club in Essex

View on www.blackwatersailin…

Preview by Yahoo

I used the sailwave inbuilt ftp transfer to upload the race results as an html file, and then use the easyfolderlistingpro plugin to show the list of files available. Then all the users have to do is click on the racename to get the results.

Regards

Jan

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Hi all,

I am in the process of updating my own Joomla Sailwave component for the latest version of Joomla. Once that is complete, I will be looking at the feasibility of using a similar methodology for wordrpess.

I will keep the group posted.

If anyone would be interested in acting as a beta tester for me, please drop me an email.

Thanks

Keith

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 26 March 2016 16:07
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Announcing: SailwaveImporter for Joomla

Interesting that it seems no one seems to have done something similar for WordPress, not wanting to get into a WordPress versus Joomla debate - but statistically the number of WordPress websites dwarf Joomla.

I put something simple process together of ours (WordPress site), basically it allows any file name to be uploaded (ftp) from sailwave, then it strips the dom and adds it into a custom WordPress page template. ( I avoided using a custom SailWave template, as this means that the template would have to be loaded on to all PC’s uploading as it is local to the PC )

I then wrote some code to read the upload files directory to create the nav links automatically.

Doesn’t go any further than that, but it is effective. If anyone wants that bundled into a WordPress plugin I can take a look.

Alan

11

Hi all,

I am in the process of updating my own Joomla Sailwave component for the latest version of Joomla. Once that is complete, I will be looking at the feasibility of using a similar methodology for wordrpess.

I will keep the group posted.

If anyone would be interested in acting as a beta tester for me, please drop me an email.

Thanks

Keith

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 26 March 2016 16:07
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Announcing: SailwaveImporter for Joomla

Interesting that it seems no one seems to have done something similar for WordPress, not wanting to get into a WordPress versus Joomla debate - but statistically the number of WordPress websites dwarf Joomla.

I put something simple process together of ours (WordPress site), basically it allows any file name to be uploaded (ftp) from sailwave, then it strips the dom and adds it into a custom WordPress page template. ( I avoided using a custom SailWave template, as this means that the template would have to be loaded on to all PC’s uploading as it is local to the PC )

I then wrote some code to read the upload files directory to create the nav links automatically.

Doesn’t go any further than that, but it is effective. If anyone wants that bundled into a WordPress plugin I can take a look.

Alan

12

Hi Calum,

I have installed your Joomla plug-ins and I have got as far as

trying to do something. However I am getting the following when I
scan for results to import:

information
SailwaveImported
has started processing the following
file(s):

2016inlands.html

Error

                            2016inlands.html

does not contain the required
sailwave_id - processing failed. File
moved to quarantine.

Scan Sailwave Results Folder for New

Files for Import
As far as I know Sailwave when publishing an HTML file does not
include a “sailwave_id”. I know where to find a unique id in an open
Sailwave.BLW file.

Look forward to understanding what needs to be done.

Kind regards,

Huw
···

On 05/04/16 21:06,
[sailwave] wrote:

yahoo@wittongilbert.free-online.co.uk

          Sorry - probably wasn't the smartest move to post this

just before going away on holiday!

Will address bitbucket tickets via there.

          Likewise I don't want to get into a Joomla vs Wordpress

debate. In the early days Joomla had a broader range of
extra plugins than Word Press but that may have changed.
I didn’t want a club website driven around blog style
content it needed to handle member logins, payments, event
management etc so we went Joomla a while back and so that
is out direction of travel. The concept is similar to
what you describe on WP - the difference being I wanted to
update an article for updated results not post a fresh
one… …i know my ROs for a Sunday series will take 3 or
4 uploads each Sunday when they spot typos etc. If thats
an open event that could be 3 uploads per race, 5 races a
day, I don’t fancy 15 articles - so I needed to unpick the
event into a unique ID. file naming changes previously
suggested that wasn’t going to happen from the filename!

           On 2016-03-29 11:47, 'Keith Mountifield'

[sailwave] wrote:

                      Hi

all,

                      I

am in the process of updating my own Joomla
Sailwave component for the latest version of
Joomla. Once that is complete, I will be
looking at the feasibility of using a similar
methodology for wordrpess.

                      I

will keep the group posted.

                      If

anyone would be interested in acting as a beta
tester for me, please drop me an email.

Thanks

Keith

From:

                          [] 26 March 2016 16:07

[sailwave] Re:
Announcing: SailwaveImporter for Joomla

                          Interesting that it seems no one seems to

have done something similar for WordPress,
not wanting to get into a WordPress versus
Joomla debate - but statistically the
number of WordPress websites dwarf Joomla.

                            I put something

simple process together of ours
(WordPress site), basically it allows
any file name to be uploaded (ftp) from
sailwave, then it strips the dom and
adds it into a custom WordPress page
template. ( I avoided using a custom
SailWave template, as this means that
the template would have to be loaded on
to all PC’s uploading as it is local to
the PC )

                            I then wrote some

code to read the upload files directory
to create the nav links automatically.

                            Doesn't go any

further than that, but it is effective.
If anyone wants that bundled into a
WordPress plugin I can take a look.

Alan

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Hi Calum,

After some more investigation, I realised I was using the wrong

Publish option :frowning:

After using the right publishing option, I have put an .HTML file

and an .HTM file in the top level results folder, i.e . web
root/sailwave, which after doing config has 3 sub-folders [Imported,
Processing & Quarantined]. When I select the option to
check-for-new-results under Components | Sailwave in the Joomla
Admin interface I get a page with "

Scan Sailwave Results Folder for New Files for Import

" with no Joomla icons, buttons or anything that can be clicked; the

only way to get something is to click the back button in my Firefox
web browser.

When I check in the file system the .HTML & .HTM files have

moved from the webroot/sailwave folder to the
webroot/Sailwave/Processing folder with the correct owner:group for
the web server.

Also answered another of the questions I asked in a direct email to

you regarding use of effects when publishing. It would be great if
you could enhance your Joomla component to support the presentation
effects that Sailwave has available, i.e . HighlightWins3,
Tablesort, Scrolling.

Look forward to any suggestions of what to try next.

Kind regards,

Huw
···

On 27/04/16 15:38, Huw Pearce wrote:

Hi Calum,

  I have installed your Joomla plug-ins and I have got as far as

trying to do something. However I am getting the following when I
scan for results to import:

information

                              SailwaveImported

has started processing the following
file(s):

2016inlands.html

Error

                              2016inlands.html

does not contain the required
sailwave_id - processing failed. File
moved to quarantine.

Scan Sailwave Results Folder for New

Files for Import
As far as I know Sailwave when publishing an HTML file does not
include a “sailwave_id”. I know where to find a unique id in an
open Sailwave.BLW file.

  Look forward to understanding what needs to be done.

  Kind regards,

  Huw

    On 05/04/16 21:06, [sailwave] wrote:

yahoo@wittongilbert.free-online.co.uk

            Sorry - probably wasn't the smartest move to post this

just before going away on holiday!

Will address bitbucket tickets via there.

            Likewise I don't want to get into a Joomla vs Wordpress

debate. In the early days Joomla had a broader range of
extra plugins than Word Press but that may have changed.
I didn’t want a club website driven around blog style
content it needed to handle member logins, payments,
event management etc so we went Joomla a while back and
so that is out direction of travel. The concept is
similar to what you describe on WP - the difference
being I wanted to update an article for updated results
not post a fresh one… …i know my ROs for a Sunday
series will take 3 or 4 uploads each Sunday when they
spot typos etc. If thats an open event that could be 3
uploads per race, 5 races a day, I don’t fancy 15
articles - so I needed to unpick the event into a unique
ID. file naming changes previously suggested that
wasn’t going to happen from the filename!

            On 2016-03-29 11:47, 'Keith Mountifield' [sailwave] wrote:

                        Hi

all,

                        I

am in the process of updating my own Joomla
Sailwave component for the latest version of
Joomla. Once that is complete, I will be
looking at the feasibility of using a
similar methodology for wordrpess.

                        I

will keep the group posted.

                        If

anyone would be interested in acting as a
beta tester for me, please drop me an email.

Thanks

Keith

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[]
26 March 2016
16:07
[sailwave] Re:
Announcing: SailwaveImporter for Joomla

                            Interesting that it seems no one seems

to have done something similar for
WordPress, not wanting to get into a
WordPress versus Joomla debate - but
statistically the number of WordPress
websites dwarf Joomla.

                              I put something

simple process together of ours
(WordPress site), basically it
allows any file name to be uploaded
(ftp) from sailwave, then it strips
the dom and adds it into a custom
WordPress page template. ( I avoided
using a custom SailWave template, as
this means that the template would
have to be loaded on to all PC’s
uploading as it is local to the PC )

                              I then wrote some

code to read the upload files
directory to create the nav links
automatically.

                              Doesn't go any

further than that, but it is
effective. If anyone wants that
bundled into a WordPress plugin I can
take a look.

Alan

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Hi Huw

So - yes it needs to use the publish to joomla option thats added to the publishing menu. Basically that uses a tweaked template which includes the sailwave event id - which becomes a unique identifier so that updates over-write the existing article rather than create new articles. That means any weblinks / social media links etc will then point to the most up to date version of the article.

Things should only sit in processing for a very short period of time (perhaps seconds). You shouldn’t really need to manually force a scan for new content via the menu (hence it has no buttons its there as a way to force it if you needed to). You would use the plugin to scan periodically. But something is not right if its getting stuck - can you pop me an email (send to cpolwart@ instead of yahoo@ off forum with a link to your site and the file that is stuck in processing? I’ll copy it off and process it on a development server and see what the story is.

I have a mail filter which puts anything with [sailwave] in the subject line in a subfolder and I confess I haven’t been checking it. Must set an exclusion for anything with joomla not to go there. Sorry about the lack of comms on this.

Will go add the effects as a feature request on the bug tracker.

Calum

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On 27/04/16 15:38, Huw Pearce wrote:

Hi Calum,

I have installed your Joomla plug-ins and I have got as far as trying to do something. However I am getting the following when I scan for results to import:

information
SailwaveImported has started processing the following file(s):

2016inlands.html

Error

2016inlands.html does not contain the required sailwave_id - processing failed. File moved to quarantine.

Scan Sailwave Results Folder for New Files for Import

As far as I know Sailwave when publishing an HTML file does not include a “sailwave_id”. I know where to find a unique id in an open Sailwave.BLW file.

Look forward to understanding what needs to be done.
Kind regards,
Huw

On 05/04/16 21:06, [sailwave] wrote:

yahoo@wittongilbert.free-online.co.uk

Sorry - probably wasn’t the smartest move to post this just before going away on holiday!

Will address bitbucket tickets via there.

Likewise I don’t want to get into a Joomla vs Wordpress debate. In the early days Joomla had a broader range of extra plugins than Word Press but that may have changed. I didn’t want a club website driven around blog style content it needed to handle member logins, payments, event management etc so we went Joomla a while back and so that is out direction of travel. The concept is similar to what you describe on WP - the difference being I wanted to update an article for updated results not post a fresh one… …i know my ROs for a Sunday series will take 3 or 4 uploads each Sunday when they spot typos etc. If thats an open event that could be 3 uploads per race, 5 races a day, I don’t fancy 15 articles - so I needed to unpick the event into a unique ID. file naming changes previously suggested that wasn’t going to happen from the filename!

On 2016-03-29 11:47, ‘Keith Mountifield’ [sailwave] wrote:

Hi all,

I am in the process of updating my own Joomla Sailwave component for the latest version of Joomla. Once that is complete, I will be looking at the feasibility of using a similar methodology for wordrpess.

I will keep the group posted.

If anyone would be interested in acting as a beta tester for me, please drop me an email.

Thanks

Keith

From: [] 26 March 2016 16:07 [sailwave] Re: Announcing: SailwaveImporter for Joomla

Interesting that it seems no one seems to have done something similar for WordPress, not wanting to get into a WordPress versus Joomla debate - but statistically the number of WordPress websites dwarf Joomla.

I put something simple process together of ours (WordPress site), basically it allows any file name to be uploaded (ftp) from sailwave, then it strips the dom and adds it into a custom WordPress page template. ( I avoided using a custom SailWave template, as this means that the template would have to be loaded on to all PC’s uploading as it is local to the PC )

I then wrote some code to read the upload files directory to create the nav links automatically.

Doesn’t go any further than that, but it is effective. If anyone wants that bundled into a WordPress plugin I can take a look.

Alan

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