I’m involved with the management of a reasonably large dinghy event – Chichester Harbour Federation Week – and this year we are using Sailwave for the first time. It all looks good apart from this scenario:
Competitors are required to sign afloat and ashore. There are percentages penalties for failing to do one or both – 15% for the first offence and 30% thereafter. There is also the possibility of Z-flag and exoneration penalties. In theory a boat could receive multiple penalties in a single race yet Sailwave accepts only a single scoring code.
I can quite see that there are significant complications for Sailwave in processing multiple codes but nevertheless this looks to me like a real situation that others must have encountered.
So, if you have run into this yourself, how have you dealt with it?
If it was me I would consider creating a new code that combines the two penalties - if you publish the codes used it will show competitors an explanation of the codes being used.
On the few occasions I have had a need, it has all been manual. Be
interesting to hear Jon’s thoughts.
I agree it is something that could and does happen. The suggestion
of creating new codes for multiple penalties is a way to do it IF
the penalties are applied to race scores. If penalties are applied
to race scores they could end up being the discard.
For the first time at the RYA Youth Nationals this year tally
penalties were against the competitor not a race score and therefore
could not be discarded and the accumalated points added to the Net
Score.
Exoneration penalty - I have created a a code ARB for the situation
where a competitor accepts an arbitration decision instead of going
to full protest, so I would create a code, say EXO, for exoneration
with the appropriate percentage penalty.
Don't forget that a competitor could get multiple Z-flag penalty for
a single race and there have been discussions on whether 2x 20%
penalty is same as 1x 40%!
large dinghy event – Chichester Harbour Federation Week
– and this year we are using Sailwave for the first
time. It all looks good apart from this scenario:
Competitors are required to sign afloat and ashore.
There are percentages penalties for failing to do one or
both – 15% for the first offence and 30% thereafter.
There is also the possibility of Z-flag and exoneration
penalties. In theory a boat could receive multiple
penalties in a single race yet Sailwave accepts only a
single scoring code.
I can quite see that there are significant complications
for Sailwave in processing multiple codes but
nevertheless this looks to me like a real situation that
others must have encountered.
So, if you have run into this yourself, how have you
dealt with it?
Thanks
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Unfortunately I don’t see setting up special codes for combinations of percentages working because, as Huw points out, 30% Plus 20% is not 50%, it’s 56%. Given that this event already has the potential for 15%, 20% and 30% penalties that is a lot of special codes all pretty much meaningless to competitors and their followers.
It is probably just the programmer in me trying to cover all eventualities and in reality it won’t actually happen (much). So I’m thinking about creating a version of RDG named, say, PEN. When and if we hit this situation we manually work out what the miscreant’s points should be, give him a PEN and enter the points. That way he is published with the appropriate points with PEN beside them. And if he wants to know why then he can come to the race box and ask!
When I wrote Sailwave I was unaware that multiple penalties could be applied and it never got addressed thereafter because as you say it’s relatively rare and there are workarounds - but also as you say - you have to be careful because of rounding…
