Multiple starts in Fleets

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I must be missing something.

  We have just had our regatta with 5 starts. In the Fast Handicap

Fleet there were more than 10 RS 400s. My RO wished to separate
them from the rest of the Fast Handicaps for prizegiving. Although
I edited the race to have a Start for the FHcap AND Class <>
RS 400 and another start at the same time for FHcap AND Class = RS
400, I cannot manage to separate the sub fleets in the results.

  I have attached the blw file

  Ian Frogley
2

Hi

I think you just have to score by Class, and then only select the relevant class when you publish.

regards Karsten

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2016-09-03 18:37 GMT+02:00 Ian Frogley ian.frogley@ntlworld.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com:

I must be missing something.

  We have just had our regatta with 5 starts. In the Fast Handicap

Fleet there were more than 10 RS 400s. My RO wished to separate
them from the rest of the Fast Handicaps for prizegiving. Although
I edited the race to have a Start for the FHcap AND Class <>
RS 400 and another start at the same time for FHcap AND Class = RS
400, I cannot manage to separate the sub fleets in the results.

  I have attached the blw file



  Ian Frogley

Mvh. Karsten Svenningsen

3

You are scoring by fleet and the RS400 are in the Fhcap fleet. You need to move them to a new fleet. RS 400. Use the competitor tool to change the RS 400 Class
boats to a new RS 400 and add an RS 400 Start. See the results below.

···

Mark Townsend

Phone: 562-433-4366
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 9:38 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Multiple starts in Fleets [1 Attachment]

I must be missing something.

We have just had our regatta with 5 starts. In the Fast Handicap Fleet there were more than 10 RS 400s. My RO wished to separate them from the rest of the Fast Handicaps for prizegiving. Although I edited the race to have a Start for the FHcap AND Class <>
RS 400 and another start at the same time for FHcap AND Class = RS 400, I cannot manage to separate the sub fleets in the results.

I have attached the blw file

Ian Frogley

4

Attached is the modified blw file…

Hope that helped.

···

Mark Townsend

Phone: 562-433-4366
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 11:36 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Multiple starts in Fleets

You are scoring by fleet and the RS400 are in the Fhcap fleet. You need to move them to a new fleet. RS 400. Use the competitor tool
to change the RS 400 Class boats to a new RS 400 and add an RS 400 Start. See the results below.

Mark Townsend

Phone: 562-433-4366

Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 9:38 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Multiple starts in Fleets [1 Attachment]

I must be missing something.

We have just had our regatta with 5 starts. In the Fast Handicap Fleet there were more than 10 RS 400s. My RO wished to separate them from the rest of the Fast Handicaps for prizegiving. Although I edited the race to have a Start for the FHcap AND Class <>
RS 400 and another start at the same time for FHcap AND Class = RS 400, I cannot manage to separate the sub fleets in the results.

I have attached the blw file

Ian Frogley

5

If you wanted to score the RS 400 as part of the Fhcap fleet but give them separate prizes you can use the “Prizes” function and separate them that way.

···

Mark Townsend

Phone: 562-433-4366
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 11:38 AM
To: ‘sailwave@yahoogroups.com’
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Multiple starts in Fleets

Attached is the modified blw file…

Hope that helped.

Mark Townsend

Phone: 562-433-4366
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 11:36 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Multiple starts in Fleets

You are scoring by fleet and the RS400 are in the Fhcap fleet. You need to move them to a new fleet. RS 400. Use the competitor tool
to change the RS 400 Class boats to a new RS 400 and add an RS 400 Start. See the results below.

Mark Townsend

Phone: 562-433-4366

Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 9:38 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Multiple starts in Fleets [1 Attachment]

I must be missing something.

We have just had our regatta with 5 starts. In the Fast Handicap Fleet there were more than 10 RS 400s. My RO wished to separate them from the rest of the Fast Handicaps for prizegiving. Although I edited the race to have a Start for the FHcap AND Class <>
RS 400 and another start at the same time for FHcap AND Class = RS 400, I cannot manage to separate the sub fleets in the results.

I have attached the blw file

Ian Frogley

6

Thanks Mark, that is a solution I was aware of. I
thought there was a way I could score by Starts, as there is the
facility to determine both the Fleet and the Class in a start.

  That would have been quicker than editing each of the competitors.

  <img src="cid:part1.BF98B4A6.3B5F7963@ntlworld.com" alt="">

  It seems I was mistaken.

  Ian
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On 03/09/2016 19:38, Mark Townsend
[sailwave] wrote:

s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

        Attached

is the modified blw file…

        Hope

that helped.

** Mark
Townsend**

                      Phone:

562-433-4366
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From:

            []

Saturday, September 03, 2016 11:36 AM
RE: [sailwave] Multiple starts in Fleets

                You are

scoring by fleet and the RS400 are in the Fhcap
fleet. You need to move them to a new fleet. RS 400.
Use the competitor tool to change the RS 400 Class
boats to a new RS 400 and add an RS 400 Start. See
the results below.

** Mark
Townsend**

                                      Phone:

562-433-4366

                  Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com ]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 9:38
AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Multiple starts in
Fleets [1 Attachment]

                      I must be

missing something.

                      We have just had our regatta with 5 starts. In

the Fast Handicap Fleet there were more than
10 RS 400s. My RO wished to separate them from
the rest of the Fast Handicaps for
prizegiving. Although I edited the race to
have a Start for the FHcap AND Class <>
RS 400 and another start at the same time for
FHcap AND Class = RS 400, I cannot manage to
separate the sub fleets in the results.

                      I have attached the blw file



                      Ian Frogley

sailwave@yahoogroups.commailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
**To:**sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:

7

You can use the “Set Competitor Field” under “Tools” to change the Fleet assignment rather than editing each boat.

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Mark Townsend

Phone: 562-433-4366
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 12:37 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Multiple starts in Fleets [1 Attachment]

Thanks Mark, that is a solution I was aware of. I thought there was a way I could score by Starts, as there is the facility to determine both the Fleet and the Class in a start.

That would have been quicker than editing each of the competitors.

It seems I was mistaken.

Ian

On 03/09/2016 19:38, Mark Townsend
s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com [sailwave] wrote:

Attached is the modified blw file…

Hope that helped.

Mark Townsend

Phone: 562-433-4366

Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 11:36 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Multiple starts in Fleets

You are scoring by fleet and the RS400 are in the Fhcap fleet. You need to move them to a new fleet. RS 400. Use the competitor tool
to change the RS 400 Class boats to a new RS 400 and add an RS 400 Start. See the results below.

Mark Townsend

Phone: 562-433-4366

Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 9:38 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Multiple starts in Fleets [1 Attachment]

I must be missing something.

We have just had our regatta with 5 starts. In the Fast Handicap Fleet there were more than 10 RS 400s. My RO wished to separate them from the rest of the Fast Handicaps for prizegiving. Although I edited the race to have a Start for the FHcap AND Class <>
RS 400 and another start at the same time for FHcap AND Class = RS 400, I cannot manage to separate the sub fleets in the results.

I have attached the blw file

Ian Frogley

8

Thanks again,

  always something new to learn!

  Ian
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On 03/09/2016 20:54, Mark Townsend
[sailwave] wrote:

s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

        You

can use the “Set Competitor Field” under “Tools” to change
the Fleet assignment rather than editing each boat.

** Mark
Townsend**

                      Phone:

562-433-4366
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From:

            []

Saturday, September 03, 2016 12:37 PM
Re: [sailwave] Multiple starts in Fleets
[1 Attachment]

              Thanks Mark, that is a

solution I was aware of. I thought there was a way I
could score by Starts, as there is the facility to
determine both the Fleet and the Class in a start.

              That would have been quicker than editing each of the

competitors.

              It seems I was mistaken.



              Ian

              On 03/09/2016 19:38, Mark Townsend

                s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com [sailwave] wrote:

                  Attached is

the modified blw file…

                  Hope that

helped.

** Mark
Townsend**

                                          Phone:

562-433-4366

                    Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com ]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016
11:36 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Multiple starts
in Fleets

                          You

are scoring by fleet and the RS400 are in
the Fhcap fleet. You need to move them to
a new fleet. RS 400. Use the competitor
tool to change the RS 400 Class boats to a
new RS 400 and add an RS 400 Start. See
the results below.

** Mark
Townsend**

                                                          Phone:

562-433-4366

                            Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com ]
Sent: Saturday, September 03,
2016 9:38 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Multiple
starts in Fleets [1 Attachment]

                                I must

be missing something.

                                We have just had our regatta with 5

starts. In the Fast Handicap Fleet
there were more than 10 RS 400s. My
RO wished to separate them from the
rest of the Fast Handicaps for
prizegiving. Although I edited the
race to have a Start for the FHcap
AND Class <> RS 400 and
another start at the same time for
FHcap AND Class = RS 400, I cannot
manage to separate the sub fleets in
the results.

                                I have attached the blw file



                                Ian Frogley

sailwave@yahoogroups.commailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
**To:**sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:

9

For the purposes of your prizegiving, you could just score by
class (i.s.o. fleet), to get a ranking of the RS400s. This may not
give a satisfactory overall set of results for publication,
though.

  Or, score as one group, check the box Sort by field after

scoring, with field set to Class.

··· 
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei South Africa

   On 2016-09-03 18:37, Ian Frogley

[sailwave] wrote:

I must be missing something.

            We have just had our regatta with 5 starts. In the Fast

Handicap Fleet there were more than 10 RS 400s. My RO
wished to separate them from the rest of the Fast
Handicaps for prizegiving. Although I edited the race to
have a Start for the FHcap AND Class <> RS 400 and
another start at the same time for FHcap AND Class = RS
400, I cannot manage to separate the sub fleets in the
results.

            I have attached the blw file



            Ian Frogley


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In the peace and quiet of home, after prizegiving I
reset the fleets as suggested by Mark. Then they can be published
properly.

  It was just that the RO decided to award prizes to some classes

within the fleets. To get it done in time I had to handwrite him
the results by Fleet/Class as I couldn’t find a quick way of doing
it in SW

  Ian
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On 03/09/2016 21:29, Malcolm Osborne
[sailwave] wrote:

malcolmo@telkomsa.net

    For the purposes of your prizegiving, you could just score by

class (i.s.o. fleet), to get a ranking of the RS400s. This may
not give a satisfactory overall set of results for publication,
though.

    Or, score as one group, check the box Sort by field after

scoring, with field set to Class.

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei South Africa

    On 2016-09-03 18:37, Ian Frogley [sailwave] wrote:

ian.frogley@ntlworld.com

I must be missing something.

          We have just had our regatta with 5 starts. In the Fast

Handicap Fleet there were more than 10 RS 400s. My RO
wished to separate them from the rest of the Fast
Handicaps for prizegiving. Although I edited the race to
have a Start for the FHcap AND Class <> RS 400 and
another start at the same time for FHcap AND Class = RS
400, I cannot manage to separate the sub fleets in the
results.

          I have attached the blw file



          Ian Frogley


Virus-free. www.avast.com

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Hi Ian,

Just got Internet access back so bit late to this thread.

  What your RO decided to do needs consideration. There are two

different possibilities for producing a set of results for the
RS400 class, or any other class, in your case:

  •     extracted results where the overall position of the RS400 in
    the main fleet is used
  • re-scored for the RS400 class
    The latter could produce a different overall rank within the
    RS400 class compared to that of the the first way. This is due to
    the difference in relative positions between the main fleet and
    the RS400 class. I know this because it has happened to me many
    years ago when scoring an Optimist event.

Hope you did not have a problem.

  Another option is to use Jon's tool

[] which was
developed to produce Flight lists but can be used to produce other
lists. In your case you could use it to produce page separated
list of class results. - it would produce
extracted results not re-scored results.

Kind regards,

Huw

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On 03/09/2016 21:37, Ian Frogley
[sailwave] wrote:

ian.frogley@ntlworld.com

            In the peace and quiet of home, after

prizegiving I reset the fleets as suggested by Mark.
Then they can be published properly.

            It was just that the RO decided to award prizes to some

classes within the fleets. To get it done in time I had
to handwrite him the results by Fleet/Class as I
couldn’t find a quick way of doing it in SW

            Ian


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On 03/09/2016 21:29, Malcolm
Osborne [sailwave] wrote:

malcolmo@telkomsa.net

            For the purposes of your prizegiving, you could just

score by class (i.s.o. fleet), to get a ranking of the
RS400s. This may not give a satisfactory overall set of
results for publication, though.

            Or, score as one group, check the box Sort by field

after scoring, with field set to Class.

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei South Africa

            On 2016-09-03 18:37, Ian

Frogley [sailwave] wrote:

ian.frogley@ntlworld.com

I must be missing something.

                  We have just had our regatta with 5 starts. In the

Fast Handicap Fleet there were more than 10 RS
400s. My RO wished to separate them from the rest
of the Fast Handicaps for prizegiving. Although I
edited the race to have a Start for the FHcap AND
Class <> RS 400 and another start at the
same time for FHcap AND Class = RS 400, I cannot
manage to separate the sub fleets in the results.

                  I have attached the blw file



                  Ian Frogley


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