The Laser class in Norway are using the following formula for calculating the overall series ranking:
("Number of competitors" - finishingposition + 1) * Category = rank pts.
Category varies from regatta to regatta, and can be 1 to 4.
The help text on this point is no good...
Anyone who has any expieriece ?
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We have just completed the Thames Frostbite and although I am not on the
committee, I still try to think of scenarios where Sailwave might have room
for improvement.
The Frostbite is essentially a race down the Thames and back again the next
day. Leg 1 is on Day one and Leg 2 is on Day 2.
The problem is that Yachts have to navigate through the Thames Barrier under
power, from a position 500 Meters before the barrier, to a position 500
meters beyond the barrier. At the beginning and end of these sections, there
is a committee boat that takes the times each yacht passes this point.
The time taken to pass between these two points is deducted from the elapsed
time to only show sailing time in overall results.
Would be nice if There was an easy way to get sailwave to produce the
results of such a race but to also show the times taken to pass the barrier
as times excluded from the race.
The results for this race can be viewed at
http://www.cruising.org.uk/frostbite2005.htm
Regards
Terry
Why not enter a start time for the boat, equivalent to the time taken to motor past the barrier, as
a time past a theoretical midnight.(i.e if it takes 18mins to navigate the barrier, enter a start
time of 00:18)
Not sure if SW can display start times, but if not, no doubt there is an html program guru out there
who could show you how to set up a template which printed the start time (barrier time), total time,
then net elapsed time.
Regards
Ralph Tingle
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From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
Sent: 29 March 2005 18:18
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Exclude times
We have just completed the Thames Frostbite and although I am not on the
committee, I still try to think of scenarios where Sailwave might have room
for improvement.
The Frostbite is essentially a race down the Thames and back again the next
day. Leg 1 is on Day one and Leg 2 is on Day 2.
The problem is that Yachts have to navigate through the Thames Barrier under
power, from a position 500 Meters before the barrier, to a position 500
meters beyond the barrier. At the beginning and end of these sections, there
is a committee boat that takes the times each yacht passes this point.
The time taken to pass between these two points is deducted from the elapsed
time to only show sailing time in overall results.
Would be nice if There was an easy way to get sailwave to produce the
results of such a race but to also show the times taken to pass the barrier
as times excluded from the race.
The results for this race can be viewed at
http://www.cruising.org.uk/frostbite2005.htm
Regards
Terry
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Sailwave will do something similar to what you want using the accumulated time feature.
You will need to setup four races each direction.
Race 1 will be from Start to the upstream side of the Thames Barrier
Race 2 will be from the upstream side of the Thames Barrier to the downstream side
Race 3 will be from the downstream side of the Thames Barrier to the Finish
Race 4 would be an accumulation of Race 1 and 3.
Setup a spreadsheet with columns for Start, Upstream Side, Downstream Side, Finish Times, plus sail number, etc. Import into Sailwave for each race specifying the correct combinations of times to use as start and finish time for each race.
Mark Townsend
s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
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From: "Terry" <terry.home@home-it.com>
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To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [sailwave] Exclude times
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:18:08 +0100
We have just completed the Thames Frostbite and although I am not on the
committee, I still try to think of scenarios where Sailwave might have room
for improvement.
The Frostbite is essentially a race down the Thames and back again the next
day. Leg 1 is on Day one and Leg 2 is on Day 2.
The problem is that Yachts have to navigate through the Thames Barrier under
power, from a position 500 Meters before the barrier, to a position 500
meters beyond the barrier. At the beginning and end of these sections, there
is a committee boat that takes the times each yacht passes this point.
The time taken to pass between these two points is deducted from the elapsed
time to only show sailing time in overall results.
Would be nice if There was an easy way to get sailwave to produce the
results of such a race but to also show the times taken to pass the barrier
as times excluded from the race.
The results for this race can be viewed at
http://www.cruising.org.uk/frostbite2005.htm
Regards
Terry
I have used this this high point scoring, is there any help i can give.
Mike Butterfield
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From: "Martin Bølgen" <martin@seilforening.no>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:57 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Need some caculating help...
The Laser class in Norway are using the following formula for calculating
the overall series ranking:
("Number of competitors" - finishingposition + 1) * Category = rank pts.
Category varies from regatta to regatta, and can be 1 to 4.
The help text on this point is no good...
Anyone who has any expieriece ?
--
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97517102/37251906
Grimstad seilforening
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Hi!
I've been looking for a solution for the Norwegian Laser club, to have a ranking system like:
("Number of competitors in race" - finishingposition + 1) * Category = rank pts.
Category varies from regatta to regatta, and can be 1 to 4.
This points out to be a "high point system" because if you wins a regatta with 20 boats and weight/category=4, you should have (20-1+1)*4= 80pts. Number 2 should have (20-2+1)*4=76 pts
So, I tried to use "custom high point defined by a list of expressions" set to: s-p+1. Then I set weight in each regatta, but a high weight gave a low point..?? So, I found out that for High point systems, SW divides points with the weight.... And multiplies for low point systems... Is this correct? I tought it should have been the other way around.... Anyway, I could have solved my problem if I was alowed to divide by 0.25 i.e. set the weighting to 0.25. But, I was not allowed to make the weighting lower than 1..?
Any suggestions?
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike & Trish Butterfield
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Need some caculating help...
I have used this this high point scoring, is there any help i can give.
Mike Butterfield
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From: "Martin Bølgen" <martin@seilforening.no>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:57 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Need some caculating help...
The Laser class in Norway are using the following formula for calculating
the overall series ranking:
("Number of competitors" - finishingposition + 1) * Category = rank pts.
Category varies from regatta to regatta, and can be 1 to 4.
The help text on this point is no good...
Anyone who has any expieriece ?
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97517102/37251906
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Use the expression you have and multiply by 24.
Then set the weighting of the races Edit Race
to 24 for factor 1
12 factor 2
8 factor 3
6 factor 4
Mike Butterfield
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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Need some caculating help...
Hi!
I've been looking for a solution for the Norwegian Laser club, to have a ranking system like:
("Number of competitors in race" - finishingposition + 1) * Category = rank pts.
Category varies from regatta to regatta, and can be 1 to 4.
This points out to be a "high point system" because if you wins a regatta with 20 boats and weight/category=4, you should have (20-1+1)*4= 80pts. Number 2 should have (20-2+1)*4=76 pts
So, I tried to use "custom high point defined by a list of expressions" set to: s-p+1. Then I set weight in each regatta, but a high weight gave a low point..?? So, I found out that for High point systems, SW divides points with the weight.... And multiplies for low point systems... Is this correct? I tought it should have been the other way around.... Anyway, I could have solved my problem if I was alowed to divide by 0.25 i.e. set the weighting to 0.25. But, I was not allowed to make the weighting lower than 1..?
Any suggestions?
----- Original Message ----- From: Mike & Trish Butterfield
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Need some caculating help...
I have used this this high point scoring, is there any help i can give.
Mike Butterfield
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin B�lgen" <martin@seilforening.no>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:57 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Need some caculating help...
The Laser class in Norway are using the following formula for calculating
the overall series ranking:
("Number of competitors" - finishingposition + 1) * Category = rank pts.
Category varies from regatta to regatta, and can be 1 to 4.
The help text on this point is no good...
Anyone who has any expieriece ?
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Thanks.
What's the deal here? I tought the formula was going to be: Custom HighPoint / weight. And now it is (myexpression*24)/factor.....
So, if I had a factor 5... Should I then set the weighting to 4.8, or should I find another number to multiply with ??
Anyway, thanks again! It worked.....!!
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Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Need some caculating help...
Use the expression you have and multiply by 24.
Then set the weighting of the races Edit Race
to 24 for factor 1
12 factor 2
8 factor 3
6 factor 4
Mike Butterfield
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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Need some caculating help...
Hi!
I've been looking for a solution for the Norwegian Laser club, to have a
ranking system like:
("Number of competitors in race" - finishingposition + 1) * Category = rank
pts.
Category varies from regatta to regatta, and can be 1 to 4.
This points out to be a "high point system" because if you wins a regatta
with 20 boats and weight/category=4, you should have (20-1+1)*4= 80pts.
Number 2 should have (20-2+1)*4=76 pts
So, I tried to use "custom high point defined by a list of expressions" set
to: s-p+1. Then I set weight in each regatta, but a high weight gave a low
point..?? So, I found out that for High point systems, SW divides points
with the weight.... And multiplies for low point systems... Is this correct?
I tought it should have been the other way around.... Anyway, I could have
solved my problem if I was alowed to divide by 0.25 i.e. set the weighting
to 0.25. But, I was not allowed to make the weighting lower than 1..?
Any suggestions?
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike & Trish Butterfield
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Need some caculating help...
I have used this this high point scoring, is there any help i can give.
Mike Butterfield
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From: "Martin Bølgen" <martin@seilforening.no>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:57 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Need some caculating help...
The Laser class in Norway are using the following formula for calculating
the overall series ranking:
("Number of competitors" - finishingposition + 1) * Category = rank pts.
Category varies from regatta to regatta, and can be 1 to 4.
The help text on this point is no good...
Anyone who has any expieriece ?
--
Martin Bølgen
97517102/37251906
Grimstad seilforening
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Hi Martin,
I'm not sure I follow that. You can enter a point expression something like
that to score the points for individual races, but you mention "overall
series ranking" and that the bit I don't follow. can you provide some more
detail...?
Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com
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From: Martin B�lgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]
Sent: 29 March 2005 13:58
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Need some caculating help...The Laser class in Norway are using the following formula for
calculating the overall series ranking:("Number of competitors" - finishingposition + 1) * Category = rank pts.
Category varies from regatta to regatta, and can be 1 to 4.
The help text on this point is no good...
Anyone who has any expieriece ?
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Hi Terry,
I would agree with Mark that the 'leg' fcaility in Sailwave should help here
(if not get back to me and we'll sort something out). It allows each leg of
a race to be entered into Sailwave as a separate (Sailwave) race with a
final race accumulating the previous legs (or a selection of them). See the
Edit+Race details. Thanks for the feedback and the thoughts; it is
appreciated.
Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com
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From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
Sent: 29 March 2005 18:18
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Exclude timesWe have just completed the Thames Frostbite and although I am not on the
committee, I still try to think of scenarios where Sailwave might
have room
for improvement.The Frostbite is essentially a race down the Thames and back
again the next
day. Leg 1 is on Day one and Leg 2 is on Day 2.The problem is that Yachts have to navigate through the Thames
Barrier under
power, from a position 500 Meters before the barrier, to a position 500
meters beyond the barrier. At the beginning and end of these
sections, there
is a committee boat that takes the times each yacht passes this point.The time taken to pass between these two points is deducted from
the elapsed
time to only show sailing time in overall results.Would be nice if There was an easy way to get sailwave to produce the
results of such a race but to also show the times taken to pass
the barrier
as times excluded from the race.The results for this race can be viewed at
http://www.cruising.org.uk/frostbite2005.htm
Regards
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