New poll for sailwave

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
sailwave group:

Would you like Sailwave Continue to be a race Scoring System
only, or would you like it to incorporate Race Management and
other functionality.

  o Race Scoring System only
  o Complete Race Management System

To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sailwave/surveys?id=12070038

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Thanks!

Awh. shoot... I did not want to stir the pot up this much.

Since the work here is more a labor of love then financial boon, Colin should do what interests him. I seem to remember that he considered developing a club management front end to sailwave and got as far as defining a web site before he noted that others were developing these tools and he put the project on the very back burner.

Unlike Huw, I personally, I think that adding the utility to log times while on the water is consistent with Sailwave's mission as a regatta scoring program and my vote in the poll reflects that nuance. (I also don�t run very complicated regattas)

For what's it worth. I have had a hell of a time getting clubs in my region to consider a regatta management program. CHANGE is not easy for many volunteer organizations and when you run an event once or twice a year with different volunteers in charge... the tried and true paper and pencil seem to be the way to go.... (Plus you get to be the martyr at the bar afterwards for all of your hard hard work.)

FYI
US Sailing offers an online registration and payment service as does www.sailregattas.com I am not familiar with any other vendors.

Thanks Colin for all of your excellent work.

Mark Schneider
CRAC
www.sailcrac.com

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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com Subject: [sailwave] New poll for sailwave
Date: 30 Jun 2005 22:54:03 -0000

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
sailwave group:

Would you like Sailwave Continue to be a race Scoring System
only, or would you like it to incorporate Race Management and
other functionality.

  o Race Scoring System only
  o Complete Race Management System

To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sailwave/surveys?id=12070038

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

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As a NRO a full race management system would be great, but first let us get a race scoring system fully operational before we deviate any further.
I have expressed in earlier emails the majority of Sailwave Users are the every day sailing clubs that have a varitety of boats, classes and skippers and their needs apart from scoring races quickly and efficiently and publishing the results on the club notice board, is to have some form of personal handicap to give the variety of people sailing every weekend individual competition. Just like a golf handicap where the beginner can sail against the champion and on a good day beat him on handicap.
Cheers
Wayne Nolan

Mark Schneider wrote:

···

Awh. shoot... I did not want to stir the pot up this much.

Since the work here is more a labor of love then financial boon, Colin should do what interests him. I seem to remember that he considered developing a club management front end to sailwave and got as far as defining a web site before he noted that others were developing these tools and he put the project on the very back burner.

Unlike Huw, I personally, I think that adding the utility to log times while on the water is consistent with Sailwave's mission as a regatta scoring program and my vote in the poll reflects that nuance. (I also don�t run very complicated regattas)

For what's it worth. I have had a hell of a time getting clubs in my region to consider a regatta management program. CHANGE is not easy for many volunteer organizations and when you run an event once or twice a year with different volunteers in charge... the tried and true paper and pencil seem to be the way to go.... (Plus you get to be the martyr at the bar afterwards for all of your hard hard work.)

FYI
US Sailing offers an online registration and payment service as does www.sailregattas.com I am not familiar with any other vendors.

Thanks Colin for all of your excellent work.

Mark Schneider
CRAC
www.sailcrac.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com Subject: [sailwave] New poll for sailwave
Date: 30 Jun 2005 22:54:03 -0000

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
sailwave group:

Would you like Sailwave Continue to be a race Scoring System
only, or would you like it to incorporate Race Management and
other functionality.

o Race Scoring System only
o Complete Race Management System

To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sailwave/surveys?id=12070038

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

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Hi Wayne,

In 1.74 (but download 1.75) there is a tool to assign personal handicaps
based on an expression and a few variables including the back calculated
rating from the previous race. Currently it's manual and the variable
repertoire is small, but requests for specific variables can be done quickly
and automation can evolve. Currently it uses the race-specific rating
field. It's primitive but a step forward...

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Wayne Nolan
Sent: 06 July 2005 08:25
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] New poll for sailwave

As a NRO a full race management system would be great, but first let us
get a race scoring system fully operational before we deviate any further.
I have expressed in earlier emails the majority of Sailwave Users are
the every day sailing clubs that have a varitety of boats, classes and
skippers and their needs apart from scoring races quickly and
efficiently and publishing the results on the club notice board, is to
have some form of personal handicap to give the variety of people
sailing every weekend individual competition. Just like a golf handicap
where the beginner can sail against the champion and on a good day beat
him on handicap.
Cheers
Wayne Nolan

Mark Schneider wrote:

>Awh. shoot... I did not want to stir the pot up this much.
>
>Since the work here is more a labor of love then financial boon, Colin
>should do what interests him. I seem to remember that he considered
>developing a club management front end to sailwave and got as far as
>defining a web site before he noted that others were developing
these tools
>and he put the project on the very back burner.
>
>Unlike Huw, I personally, I think that adding the utility to log times
>while on the water is consistent with Sailwave's mission as a regatta
>scoring program and my vote in the poll reflects that nuance.
(I also don�t
>run very complicated regattas)
>
>For what's it worth. I have had a hell of a time getting clubs
in my region
>to consider a regatta management program. CHANGE is not easy for many
>volunteer organizations and when you run an event once or twice
a year with
>different volunteers in charge... the tried and true paper and
pencil seem
>to be the way to go.... (Plus you get to be the martyr at the
bar afterwards
>for all of your hard hard work.)
>
>FYI
>US Sailing offers an online registration and payment service as does
>www.sailregattas.com I am not familiar with any other vendors.
>
>Thanks Colin for all of your excellent work.
>
>Mark Schneider
>CRAC
>www.sailcrac.com
>
>
>
>
>>From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
>>To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com Subject: [sailwave] New poll for sailwave
>>Date: 30 Jun 2005 22:54:03 -0000
>>
>>
>>Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
>>sailwave group:
>>
>>Would you like Sailwave Continue to be a race Scoring System
>>only, or would you like it to incorporate Race Management and
>>other functionality.
>>
>> o Race Scoring System only
>> o Complete Race Management System
>>
>>
>>To vote, please visit the following web page:
>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sailwave/surveys?id=12070038
>>
>>Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
>>not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
>>web site listed above.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-!- http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/ -!- http://www.sailing.org/ -!-
>>http://www.sailwave.com/ -!-
>>
>>Latest versions of sailwave can be downloaded from the 'files'
section at
>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sailwave/
>>
>>Convert to daily digest of emails send blank email to:
>>sailwave-digest@yahoogroups.com
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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>
>
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