NHC question

In scoring a series using NHC with internal mode, the winner (a Fireball) is shown with a new rating higher than his initial rating, and all new ratings are shown to 2 decimal points. Scoring this series with external mode, the new rating for this Fireball is lower (more expected) and all new ratings are integer values.

Am I doing something wrong with NHC internal mode?

Sailwave 2.17.1

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Hi Malcom,

If you would like to send me the blw I’ll have a look and see why there is a difference

Regards

Jon

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On 2 March 2015 at 10:01, Malcolm Osborne malcolmo@telkomsa.net [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

In scoring a series using NHC with internal mode, the winner (a
Fireball) is shown with a new rating higher than his initial rating, and
all new ratings are shown to 2 decimal points. Scoring this series with
external mode, the new rating for this Fireball is lower (more expected)
and all new ratings are integer values.

Am I doing something wrong with NHC internal mode?

Sailwave 2.17.1


regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa


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I also have found NHC Internal Mode gives slightly different race ratings and corrected times than NHC External/custom mode. Curious why --and which mode is correct?

Ian Grant

Hi - Ian there should be no difference - if there is then there is something wrong. With the external mode you can see all the calculations.

If you could send me a blw that has different results then I will investigate and tell you why. May be if you could tell which is the first race that is different then it would give you a clue.

May be it is it the use of some scoring code?

Jon

···

On 17 March 2015 at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I also have found NHC Internal Mode gives slightly different race ratings and corrected times than NHC External/custom mode. Curious why --and which mode is correct?

Ian Grant

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

Hi Jon,

Here is an example blw file which gives different race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I have also included screen shots of the race ratings so you can see what I’m seeing…

I have also noticed that when I select “custom external” mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not found in the template directory.

I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from the web site last week.

Glad to have your insights–many thanks for your patience.

Kind regards,

Ian Grant.

···

On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi - Ian there should be no difference - if there is then there is something wrong. With the external mode you can see all the calculations.

If you could send me a blw that has different results then I will investigate and tell you why. May be if you could tell which is the first race that is different then it would give you a clue.

May be it is it the use of some scoring code?

Jon

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 17 March 2015 at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I also have found NHC Internal Mode gives slightly different race ratings and corrected times than NHC External/custom mode. Curious why --and which mode is correct?

Ian Grant

I had a similar query recently - Jon provided the answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn't quite correct for NHC and the internal mode doesn't cater for this. The external mode gives the correct figures (coverts correctly back to Portsmouth)

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

···

On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] wrote:

Hi Jon,
Here is an example blw file which gives different race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I have also included screen shots of the race ratings so you can see what I'm seeing..
I have also noticed that when I select "custom external" mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not found in the template directory.
I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from the web site last week.
Glad to have your insights--many thanks for your patience.
Kind regards,
Ian Grant.

On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com > <mailto:jon@sailwave.com> [sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

    Hi - Ian there should be no difference - if there is then there is
    something wrong. With the external mode you can see all the
    calculations.

    If you could send me a blw that has different results then I will
    investigate and tell you why. May be if you could tell which is
    the first race that is different then it would give you a clue.

    May be it is it the use of some scoring code?

    Jon

    Jon Eskdale
    07976 709777
    Skype "eskdale"

    On 17 March 2015 at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com > <mailto:ian.grant12@gmail.com> [sailwave] > <sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

        I also have found NHC Internal Mode gives slightly different
        race ratings and corrected times than NHC External/custom
        mode. Curious why --and which mode is correct?

        Ian Grant

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Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for sharing your insights.

For new entrants to a series who do not have an NHC rating from previous races, I have used PY as the default initial rating.

Given your observation I’ll use external mode.‎

Thanks,

Ian

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

···

I had a similar query recently - Jon
provided the answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn’t quite correct
for NHC and the internal mode doesn’t cater for this. The external
mode gives the correct figures (coverts correctly back to
Portsmouth)

  On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant [sailwave]

wrote:

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

ian.grant12@gmail.com

Hi Jon,

            Here is an example blw file which gives different

race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I
have also included screen shots of the race ratings so
you can see what I’m seeing…

            I have also noticed that when I select "custom

external" mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not
found in the template directory.

            I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from

the web site last week.

            Glad to have your insights--many thanks for your

patience.

Kind regards,

Ian Grant.

            On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon

Eskdale jon@sailwave.com
[sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

                        Hi - Ian there should be no

difference - if there is then there is
something wrong. With the external mode you
can see all the calculations.

                          If you could send me a blw that has

different results then I will investigate
and tell you why. May be if you could
tell which is the first race that is
different then it would give you a clue.

                          May be it is it the use of some scoring

code?

Jon

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

                            On 17 March 2015

at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com
[sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

                                        I also have found NHC

Internal Mode gives slightly
different race ratings and
corrected times than NHC
External/custom mode.
Curious why --and which mode
is correct?

Ian Grant



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Hi Ian,

Just in case you didn’t see my earlier post - The problem you have is that you are using PY ratings - These are currently only supported in external mode

Jon

···

On 18 March 2015 at 04:20, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for sharing your insights.

For new entrants to a series who do not have an NHC rating from previous races, I have used PY as the default initial rating.

Given your observation I’ll use external mode.‎

Thanks,

Ian

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: Malcolm Osborne malcolmo@telkomsa.net [sailwave]

Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2015 03:09

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Reply To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

  I had a similar query recently - Jon

provided the answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn’t quite correct
for NHC and the internal mode doesn’t cater for this. The external
mode gives the correct figures (coverts correctly back to
Portsmouth)

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave]
wrote:

Hi Jon,

            Here is an example blw file which gives different

race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I
have also included screen shots of the race ratings so
you can see what I’m seeing…

            I have also noticed that when I select "custom

external" mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not
found in the template directory.

            I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from

the web site last week.

            Glad to have your insights--many thanks for your

patience.

Kind regards,

Ian Grant.



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Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

            On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon

Eskdale jon@sailwave.com
[sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

                        Hi - Ian there should be no

difference - if there is then there is
something wrong. With the external mode you
can see all the calculations.

                          If you could send me a blw that has

different results then I will investigate
and tell you why. May be if you could
tell which is the first race that is
different then it would give you a clue.

                          May be it is it the use of some scoring

code?

Jon

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

                            On 17 March 2015

at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com
[sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

                                        I also have found NHC

Internal Mode gives slightly
different race ratings and
corrected times than NHC
External/custom mode.
Curious why --and which mode
is correct?

Ian Grant

Jon and Sailwave experts

I have encountered a problem with NHC in external mode.

My list of competitors has finally crossed the line from 40 to 41, and I am getting an error message telling me to use a larger template?

I have no idea how to do this, I assume this is with the excel spreadsheet that comes with Sailwave helper, but that spreadsheet is blank.

I attach a screen grab of same??

What should I do?

Patrick

···

On 18 March 2015 at 14:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Ian,

Just in case you didn’t see my earlier post - The problem you have is that you are using PY ratings - These are currently only supported in external mode

Jon

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 18 March 2015 at 04:20, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for sharing your insights.

For new entrants to a series who do not have an NHC rating from previous races, I have used PY as the default initial rating.

Given your observation I’ll use external mode.‎

Thanks,

Ian

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: Malcolm Osborne malcolmo@telkomsa.net [sailwave]

Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2015 03:09

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Reply To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

  I had a similar query recently - Jon

provided the answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn’t quite correct
for NHC and the internal mode doesn’t cater for this. The external
mode gives the correct figures (coverts correctly back to
Portsmouth)

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave]
wrote:

Hi Jon,

            Here is an example blw file which gives different

race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I
have also included screen shots of the race ratings so
you can see what I’m seeing…

            I have also noticed that when I select "custom

external" mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not
found in the template directory.

            I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from

the web site last week.

            Glad to have your insights--many thanks for your

patience.

Kind regards,

Ian Grant.



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            On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon

Eskdale jon@sailwave.com
[sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

                        Hi - Ian there should be no

difference - if there is then there is
something wrong. With the external mode you
can see all the calculations.

                          If you could send me a blw that has

different results then I will investigate
and tell you why. May be if you could
tell which is the first race that is
different then it would give you a clue.

                          May be it is it the use of some scoring

code?

Jon

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

                            On 17 March 2015

at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com
[sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

                                        I also have found NHC

Internal Mode gives slightly
different race ratings and
corrected times than NHC
External/custom mode.
Curious why --and which mode
is correct?

Ian Grant

Hi Patrick

Not a big problem

First some background info

Sailwave is using a template SWNHC3.xls to specify the rules for the calculation This template by default is in Public Documents - Sailwave - Templates folder (C:\Users\Public\Documents\Sailwave\Templates) although you can change the folder in Sailwave - Setup - Global Options - Folders

First make a backup copy of this file then open it in Excel

Now lets assume you want to add another 10 lines

Click on the 9 of row 9 and while holding the button down move the mouse to 18 so that you have highlighted 10 rows as below

Inline images 1

Now right click and select Copy

Now right click on the 19 and select Insert Copied Cells - see below

Inline images 4

You have now inserted 10 more rows we just need to tell Sailwave that this template now has 10 more rows available. To do this click on the Config worksheet and change the SheetSize value from 40 to 50

Inline images 3

Switch back to the Main sheet and select cell A4 (This is just a blank cell where the selection will appear when it runs) now save the modified sheet (must be SWNHC3.xls) and you are ready to go

The size of the sheet you use would depend upon you fleet size. It will work fine up to 200 boats but as you increase the size the spreadsheet gets larger and hence slower. Although the rows you copied look empty at first glance the cells do contain formulae.

Any problems please come back to me

Jon

···

On 20 March 2015 at 08:24, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon and Sailwave experts

I have encountered a problem with NHC in external mode.

My list of competitors has finally crossed the line from 40 to 41, and I am getting an error message telling me to use a larger template?

I have no idea how to do this, I assume this is with the excel spreadsheet that comes with Sailwave helper, but that spreadsheet is blank.

I attach a screen grab of same??

What should I do?

Patrick

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 18 March 2015 at 14:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Ian,

Just in case you didn’t see my earlier post - The problem you have is that you are using PY ratings - These are currently only supported in external mode

Jon

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 18 March 2015 at 04:20, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for sharing your insights.

For new entrants to a series who do not have an NHC rating from previous races, I have used PY as the default initial rating.

Given your observation I’ll use external mode.‎

Thanks,

Ian

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: Malcolm Osborne malcolmo@telkomsa.net [sailwave]

Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2015 03:09

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Reply To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

  I had a similar query recently - Jon

provided the answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn’t quite correct
for NHC and the internal mode doesn’t cater for this. The external
mode gives the correct figures (coverts correctly back to
Portsmouth)

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave]
wrote:

Hi Jon,

            Here is an example blw file which gives different

race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I
have also included screen shots of the race ratings so
you can see what I’m seeing…

            I have also noticed that when I select "custom

external" mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not
found in the template directory.

            I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from

the web site last week.

            Glad to have your insights--many thanks for your

patience.

Kind regards,

Ian Grant.



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            On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon

Eskdale jon@sailwave.com
[sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

                        Hi - Ian there should be no

difference - if there is then there is
something wrong. With the external mode you
can see all the calculations.

                          If you could send me a blw that has

different results then I will investigate
and tell you why. May be if you could
tell which is the first race that is
different then it would give you a clue.

                          May be it is it the use of some scoring

code?

Jon

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

                            On 17 March 2015

at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com
[sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

                                        I also have found NHC

Internal Mode gives slightly
different race ratings and
corrected times than NHC
External/custom mode.
Curious why --and which mode
is correct?

Ian Grant

Thanks Jon, I will give that a go when I get home.

Patrick

···

On 20 March 2015 at 08:24, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon and Sailwave experts

I have encountered a problem with NHC in external mode.

My list of competitors has finally crossed the line from 40 to 41, and I am getting an error message telling me to use a larger template?

I have no idea how to do this, I assume this is with the excel spreadsheet that comes with Sailwave helper, but that spreadsheet is blank.

I attach a screen grab of same??

What should I do?

Patrick

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 18 March 2015 at 14:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Ian,

Just in case you didn’t see my earlier post - The problem you have is that you are using PY ratings - These are currently only supported in external mode

Jon

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 18 March 2015 at 04:20, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for sharing your insights.

For new entrants to a series who do not have an NHC rating from previous races, I have used PY as the default initial rating.

Given your observation I’ll use external mode.‎

Thanks,

Ian

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: Malcolm Osborne malcolmo@telkomsa.net [sailwave]

Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2015 03:09

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Reply To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

  I had a similar query recently - Jon

provided the answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn’t quite correct
for NHC and the internal mode doesn’t cater for this. The external
mode gives the correct figures (coverts correctly back to
Portsmouth)

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave]
wrote:

Hi Jon,

            Here is an example blw file which gives different

race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I
have also included screen shots of the race ratings so
you can see what I’m seeing…

            I have also noticed that when I select "custom

external" mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not
found in the template directory.

            I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from

the web site last week.

            Glad to have your insights--many thanks for your

patience.

Kind regards,

Ian Grant.



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            On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon

Eskdale jon@sailwave.com
[sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

                        Hi - Ian there should be no

difference - if there is then there is
something wrong. With the external mode you
can see all the calculations.

                          If you could send me a blw that has

different results then I will investigate
and tell you why. May be if you could
tell which is the first race that is
different then it would give you a clue.

                          May be it is it the use of some scoring

code?

Jon

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

                            On 17 March 2015

at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com
[sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

                                        I also have found NHC

Internal Mode gives slightly
different race ratings and
corrected times than NHC
External/custom mode.
Curious why --and which mode
is correct?

Ian Grant

Jon,

I am having difficulty in adding the additional cells on to the excel worksheet SWNHC3.xls

Firstly, the file was not in its default location, and I’m not sure why (I don’t recall setting any other default location – but maybe I did inadvertently?)

See Snip 1 for details

Then when I make the changes as you suggest I can’t save the file except in a different location and with a different name? I don’t appear to have administrator privileges.

See Snip 2 and 3 for details.

I may be just sufficiently unaware of the way to change these things that this, normal, step is beyond my excel abilities??

Grateful for any further help?

Thanks

Patrick

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 20 March 2015 11:15
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick

Not a big problem

First some background info

Sailwave is using a template SWNHC3.xls to specify the rules for the calculation This template by default is in Public Documents - Sailwave - Templates folder (C:\Users\Public\Documents\Sailwave\Templates) although you can change the folder in Sailwave - Setup - Global Options - Folders

First make a backup copy of this file then open it in Excel

Now lets assume you want to add another 10 lines

Click on the 9 of row 9 and while holding the button down move the mouse to 18 so that you have highlighted 10 rows as below

Inline images 1

Now right click and select Copy

Now right click on the 19 and select Insert Copied Cells - see below

Inline images 4

You have now inserted 10 more rows we just need to tell Sailwave that this template now has 10 more rows available. To do this click on the Config worksheet and change the SheetSize value from 40 to 50

Inline images 3

Switch back to the Main sheet and select cell A4 (This is just a blank cell where the selection will appear when it runs) now save the modified sheet (must be SWNHC3.xls) and you are ready to go

The size of the sheet you use would depend upon you fleet size. It will work fine up to 200 boats but as you increase the size the spreadsheet gets larger and hence slower. Although the rows you copied look empty at first glance the cells do contain formulae.

Any problems please come back to me

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 20 March 2015 at 08:24, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon and Sailwave experts

I have encountered a problem with NHC in external mode.

My list of competitors has finally crossed the line from 40 to 41, and I am getting an error message telling me to use a larger template?

I have no idea how to do this, I assume this is with the excel spreadsheet that comes with Sailwave helper, but that spreadsheet is blank.

I attach a screen grab of same??

What should I do?

Patrick

On 18 March 2015 at 14:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Ian,

Just in case you didn’t see my earlier post - The problem you have is that you are using PY ratings - These are currently only supported in external mode

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 18 March 2015 at 04:20, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for sharing your insights.

For new entrants to a series who do not have an NHC rating from previous races, I have used PY as the default initial rating.

Given your observation I’ll use external mode.‎

Thanks,

Ian

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: Malcolm Osborne malcolmo@telkomsa.net [sailwave]

Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2015 03:09

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Reply To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

I had a similar query recently - Jon provided the answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn’t quite correct for NHC and the internal mode doesn’t cater for this. The external mode gives the correct figures (coverts correctly back to Portsmouth)

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] wrote:

Hi Jon,

Here is an example blw file which gives different race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I have also included screen shots of the race ratings so you can see what I’m seeing…

I have also noticed that when I select “custom external” mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not found in the template directory.

I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from the web site last week.

Glad to have your insights–many thanks for your patience.

Kind regards,

Ian Grant.

On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi - Ian there should be no difference - if there is then there is something wrong. With the external mode you can see all the calculations.

If you could send me a blw that has different results then I will investigate and tell you why. May be if you could tell which is the first race that is different then it would give you a clue.

May be it is it the use of some scoring code?

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 17 March 2015 at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I also have found NHC Internal Mode gives slightly different race ratings and corrected times than NHC External/custom mode. Curious why --and which mode is correct?

Ian Grant


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Hi Patrick,

You need to look in the Global Options to see where the file you are using is stored

Inline images 1

The default was you can see here is C:\Users\Public\Documents\Sailwave\Templates\

So you should have a file SWNHC3.xls stored in this directory

I could only see Snip1 (no Snip2 or 3) attached to your post but there should be no problem editing a file in this directory

If you still have a problem let me know where your template files are configured to be stored.

Regards

Jon

···

On 23 March 2015 at 15:13, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@phblaney.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon,

I am having difficulty in adding the additional cells on to the excel worksheet SWNHC3.xls

Firstly, the file was not in its default location, and I’m not sure why (I don’t recall setting any other default location – but maybe I did inadvertently?)

See Snip 1 for details

Then when I make the changes as you suggest I can’t save the file except in a different location and with a different name? I don’t appear to have administrator privileges.

See Snip 2 and 3 for details.

I may be just sufficiently unaware of the way to change these things that this, normal, step is beyond my excel abilities??

Grateful for any further help?

Thanks

Patrick

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 20 March 2015 11:15

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick

Not a big problem

First some background info

Sailwave is using a template SWNHC3.xls to specify the rules for the calculation This template by default is in Public Documents - Sailwave - Templates folder (C:\Users\Public\Documents\Sailwave\Templates) although you can change the folder in Sailwave - Setup - Global Options - Folders

First make a backup copy of this file then open it in Excel

Now lets assume you want to add another 10 lines

Click on the 9 of row 9 and while holding the button down move the mouse to 18 so that you have highlighted 10 rows as below

Now right click and select Copy

Now right click on the 19 and select Insert Copied Cells - see below

You have now inserted 10 more rows we just need to tell Sailwave that this template now has 10 more rows available. To do this click on the Config worksheet and change the SheetSize value from 40 to 50

Switch back to the Main sheet and select cell A4 (This is just a blank cell where the selection will appear when it runs) now save the modified sheet (must be SWNHC3.xls) and you are ready to go

The size of the sheet you use would depend upon you fleet size. It will work fine up to 200 boats but as you increase the size the spreadsheet gets larger and hence slower. Although the rows you copied look empty at first glance the cells do contain formulae.

Any problems please come back to me

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 20 March 2015 at 08:24, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon and Sailwave experts

I have encountered a problem with NHC in external mode.

My list of competitors has finally crossed the line from 40 to 41, and I am getting an error message telling me to use a larger template?

I have no idea how to do this, I assume this is with the excel spreadsheet that comes with Sailwave helper, but that spreadsheet is blank.

I attach a screen grab of same??

What should I do?

Patrick

On 18 March 2015 at 14:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Ian,

Just in case you didn’t see my earlier post - The problem you have is that you are using PY ratings - These are currently only supported in external mode

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 18 March 2015 at 04:20, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for sharing your insights.

For new entrants to a series who do not have an NHC rating from previous races, I have used PY as the default initial rating.

Given your observation I’ll use external mode.‎

Thanks,

Ian

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: Malcolm Osborne malcolmo@telkomsa.net [sailwave]

Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2015 03:09

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Reply To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

I had a similar query recently - Jon provided the answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn’t quite correct for NHC and the internal mode doesn’t cater for this. The external mode gives the correct figures (coverts correctly back to Portsmouth)

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] wrote:

Hi Jon,

Here is an example blw file which gives different race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I have also included screen shots of the race ratings so you can see what I’m seeing…

I have also noticed that when I select “custom external” mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not found in the template directory.

I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from the web site last week.

Glad to have your insights–many thanks for your patience.

Kind regards,

Ian Grant.

On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi - Ian there should be no difference - if there is then there is something wrong. With the external mode you can see all the calculations.

If you could send me a blw that has different results then I will investigate and tell you why. May be if you could tell which is the first race that is different then it would give you a clue.

May be it is it the use of some scoring code?

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 17 March 2015 at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I also have found NHC Internal Mode gives slightly different race ratings and corrected times than NHC External/custom mode. Curious why --and which mode is correct?

Ian Grant


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07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

Oops I forgot the other attachments, now included

···

From: Patrick Blaney
Sent: 23 March 2015 15:14
To: ‘sailwave@yahoogroups.com’
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Jon,

I am having difficulty in adding the additional cells on to the excel worksheet SWNHC3.xls

Firstly, the file was not in its default location, and I’m not sure why (I don’t recall setting any other default location – but maybe I did inadvertently?)

See Snip 1 for details

Then when I make the changes as you suggest I can’t save the file except in a different location and with a different name? I don’t appear to have administrator privileges.

See Snip 2 and 3 for details.

I may be just sufficiently unaware of the way to change these things that this, normal, step is beyond my excel abilities??

Grateful for any further help?

Thanks

Patrick

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 20 March 2015 11:15
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick

Not a big problem

First some background info

Sailwave is using a template SWNHC3.xls to specify the rules for the calculation This template by default is in Public Documents - Sailwave - Templates folder (C:\Users\Public\Documents\Sailwave\Templates) although you can change the folder in Sailwave - Setup - Global Options - Folders

First make a backup copy of this file then open it in Excel

Now lets assume you want to add another 10 lines

Click on the 9 of row 9 and while holding the button down move the mouse to 18 so that you have highlighted 10 rows as below

Inline images 1

Now right click and select Copy

Now right click on the 19 and select Insert Copied Cells - see below

Inline images 4

You have now inserted 10 more rows we just need to tell Sailwave that this template now has 10 more rows available. To do this click on the Config worksheet and change the SheetSize value from 40 to 50

Inline images 3

Switch back to the Main sheet and select cell A4 (This is just a blank cell where the selection will appear when it runs) now save the modified sheet (must be SWNHC3.xls) and you are ready to go

The size of the sheet you use would depend upon you fleet size. It will work fine up to 200 boats but as you increase the size the spreadsheet gets larger and hence slower. Although the rows you copied look empty at first glance the cells do contain formulae.

Any problems please come back to me

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 20 March 2015 at 08:24, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon and Sailwave experts

I have encountered a problem with NHC in external mode.

My list of competitors has finally crossed the line from 40 to 41, and I am getting an error message telling me to use a larger template?

I have no idea how to do this, I assume this is with the excel spreadsheet that comes with Sailwave helper, but that spreadsheet is blank.

I attach a screen grab of same??

What should I do?

Patrick

On 18 March 2015 at 14:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Ian,

Just in case you didn’t see my earlier post - The problem you have is that you are using PY ratings - These are currently only supported in external mode

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 18 March 2015 at 04:20, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for sharing your insights.

For new entrants to a series who do not have an NHC rating from previous races, I have used PY as the default initial rating.

Given your observation I’ll use external mode.‎

Thanks,

Ian

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: Malcolm Osborne malcolmo@telkomsa.net [sailwave]

Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2015 03:09

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Reply To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

I had a similar query recently - Jon provided the answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn’t quite correct for NHC and the internal mode doesn’t cater for this. The external mode gives the correct figures (coverts correctly back to Portsmouth)

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] wrote:

Hi Jon,

Here is an example blw file which gives different race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I have also included screen shots of the race ratings so you can see what I’m seeing…

I have also noticed that when I select “custom external” mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not found in the template directory.

I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from the web site last week.

Glad to have your insights–many thanks for your patience.

Kind regards,

Ian Grant.

On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi - Ian there should be no difference - if there is then there is something wrong. With the external mode you can see all the calculations.

If you could send me a blw that has different results then I will investigate and tell you why. May be if you could tell which is the first race that is different then it would give you a clue.

May be it is it the use of some scoring code?

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 17 March 2015 at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I also have found NHC Internal Mode gives slightly different race ratings and corrected times than NHC External/custom mode. Curious why --and which mode is correct?

Ian Grant


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Hi Patrick,

You need to move it to the location shown in my previous post, and make sure that your global options are pointing to that location also.

With the new versions of windows (Since XP) you can’t edit files in the Program files folders and sub-directories without admin permissions or if you can it generates a phantom version of the file.

Any problems let me know.

Jon

···

On 23 March 2015 at 15:48, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@phblaney.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Oops I forgot the other attachments, now included

From: Patrick Blaney
Sent: 23 March 2015 15:14
To: ‘sailwave@yahoogroups.com’
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Jon,

I am having difficulty in adding the additional cells on to the excel worksheet SWNHC3.xls

Firstly, the file was not in its default location, and I’m not sure why (I don’t recall setting any other default location – but maybe I did inadvertently?)

See Snip 1 for details

Then when I make the changes as you suggest I can’t save the file except in a different location and with a different name? I don’t appear to have administrator privileges.

See Snip 2 and 3 for details.

I may be just sufficiently unaware of the way to change these things that this, normal, step is beyond my excel abilities??

Grateful for any further help?

Thanks

Patrick

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 20 March 2015 11:15
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick

Not a big problem

First some background info

Sailwave is using a template SWNHC3.xls to specify the rules for the calculation This template by default is in Public Documents - Sailwave - Templates folder (C:\Users\Public\Documents\Sailwave\Templates) although you can change the folder in Sailwave - Setup - Global Options - Folders

First make a backup copy of this file then open it in Excel

Now lets assume you want to add another 10 lines

Click on the 9 of row 9 and while holding the button down move the mouse to 18 so that you have highlighted 10 rows as below

Now right click and select Copy

Now right click on the 19 and select Insert Copied Cells - see below

You have now inserted 10 more rows we just need to tell Sailwave that this template now has 10 more rows available. To do this click on the Config worksheet and change the SheetSize value from 40 to 50

Switch back to the Main sheet and select cell A4 (This is just a blank cell where the selection will appear when it runs) now save the modified sheet (must be SWNHC3.xls) and you are ready to go

The size of the sheet you use would depend upon you fleet size. It will work fine up to 200 boats but as you increase the size the spreadsheet gets larger and hence slower. Although the rows you copied look empty at first glance the cells do contain formulae.

Any problems please come back to me

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 20 March 2015 at 08:24, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon and Sailwave experts

I have encountered a problem with NHC in external mode.

My list of competitors has finally crossed the line from 40 to 41, and I am getting an error message telling me to use a larger template?

I have no idea how to do this, I assume this is with the excel spreadsheet that comes with Sailwave helper, but that spreadsheet is blank.

I attach a screen grab of same??

What should I do?

Patrick

On 18 March 2015 at 14:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Ian,

Just in case you didn’t see my earlier post - The problem you have is that you are using PY ratings - These are currently only supported in external mode

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 18 March 2015 at 04:20, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for sharing your insights.

For new entrants to a series who do not have an NHC rating from previous races, I have used PY as the default initial rating.

Given your observation I’ll use external mode.‎

Thanks,

Ian

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: Malcolm Osborne malcolmo@telkomsa.net [sailwave]

Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2015 03:09

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Reply To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

I had a similar query recently - Jon provided the answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn’t quite correct for NHC and the internal mode doesn’t cater for this. The external mode gives the correct figures (coverts correctly back to Portsmouth)

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] wrote:

Hi Jon,

Here is an example blw file which gives different race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I have also included screen shots of the race ratings so you can see what I’m seeing…

I have also noticed that when I select “custom external” mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not found in the template directory.

I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from the web site last week.

Glad to have your insights–many thanks for your patience.

Kind regards,

Ian Grant.

On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi - Ian there should be no difference - if there is then there is something wrong. With the external mode you can see all the calculations.

If you could send me a blw that has different results then I will investigate and tell you why. May be if you could tell which is the first race that is different then it would give you a clue.

May be it is it the use of some scoring code?

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 17 March 2015 at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I also have found NHC Internal Mode gives slightly different race ratings and corrected times than NHC External/custom mode. Curious why --and which mode is correct?

Ian Grant


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Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

Jon,

I know that I am being stupid but I still can’t make it work.

Snip 4 and 5 show what happens and the file extensions involved.

Patrick

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 23 March 2015 15:59
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick,

You need to move it to the location shown in my previous post, and make sure that your global options are pointing to that location also.

With the new versions of windows (Since XP) you can’t edit files in the Program files folders and sub-directories without admin permissions or if you can it generates a phantom version of the file.

Any problems let me know.

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 23 March 2015 at 15:48, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@phblaney.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Oops I forgot the other attachments, now included

From: Patrick Blaney
Sent: 23 March 2015 15:14
To: ‘sailwave@yahoogroups.com’
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Jon,

I am having difficulty in adding the additional cells on to the excel worksheet SWNHC3.xls

Firstly, the file was not in its default location, and I’m not sure why (I don’t recall setting any other default location – but maybe I did inadvertently?)

See Snip 1 for details

Then when I make the changes as you suggest I can’t save the file except in a different location and with a different name? I don’t appear to have administrator privileges.

See Snip 2 and 3 for details.

I may be just sufficiently unaware of the way to change these things that this, normal, step is beyond my excel abilities??

Grateful for any further help?

Thanks

Patrick

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 20 March 2015 11:15
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick

Not a big problem

First some background info

Sailwave is using a template SWNHC3.xls to specify the rules for the calculation This template by default is in Public Documents - Sailwave - Templates folder (C:\Users\Public\Documents\Sailwave\Templates) although you can change the folder in Sailwave - Setup - Global Options - Folders

First make a backup copy of this file then open it in Excel

Now lets assume you want to add another 10 lines

Click on the 9 of row 9 and while holding the button down move the mouse to 18 so that you have highlighted 10 rows as below

Inline images 1

Now right click and select Copy

Now right click on the 19 and select Insert Copied Cells - see below

Inline images 4

You have now inserted 10 more rows we just need to tell Sailwave that this template now has 10 more rows available. To do this click on the Config worksheet and change the SheetSize value from 40 to 50

Inline images 3

Switch back to the Main sheet and select cell A4 (This is just a blank cell where the selection will appear when it runs) now save the modified sheet (must be SWNHC3.xls) and you are ready to go

The size of the sheet you use would depend upon you fleet size. It will work fine up to 200 boats but as you increase the size the spreadsheet gets larger and hence slower. Although the rows you copied look empty at first glance the cells do contain formulae.

Any problems please come back to me

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 20 March 2015 at 08:24, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon and Sailwave experts

I have encountered a problem with NHC in external mode.

My list of competitors has finally crossed the line from 40 to 41, and I am getting an error message telling me to use a larger template?

I have no idea how to do this, I assume this is with the excel spreadsheet that comes with Sailwave helper, but that spreadsheet is blank.

I attach a screen grab of same??

What should I do?

Patrick

On 18 March 2015 at 14:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Ian,

Just in case you didn’t see my earlier post - The problem you have is that you are using PY ratings - These are currently only supported in external mode

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 18 March 2015 at 04:20, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for sharing your insights.

For new entrants to a series who do not have an NHC rating from previous races, I have used PY as the default initial rating.

Given your observation I’ll use external mode.‎

Thanks,

Ian

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: Malcolm Osborne malcolmo@telkomsa.net [sailwave]

Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2015 03:09

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Reply To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

I had a similar query recently - Jon provided the answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn’t quite correct for NHC and the internal mode doesn’t cater for this. The external mode gives the correct figures (coverts correctly back to Portsmouth)

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] wrote:

Hi Jon,

Here is an example blw file which gives different race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I have also included screen shots of the race ratings so you can see what I’m seeing…

I have also noticed that when I select “custom external” mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not found in the template directory.

I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from the web site last week.

Glad to have your insights–many thanks for your patience.

Kind regards,

Ian Grant.

On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi - Ian there should be no difference - if there is then there is something wrong. With the external mode you can see all the calculations.

If you could send me a blw that has different results then I will investigate and tell you why. May be if you could tell which is the first race that is different then it would give you a clue.

May be it is it the use of some scoring code?

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 17 March 2015 at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I also have found NHC Internal Mode gives slightly different race ratings and corrected times than NHC External/custom mode. Curious why --and which mode is correct?

Ian Grant


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Hi Patrick,

OK that looks good - so now you can edit it - Correct?

or have you already edited it ? What is not working?

Jon

···

On 23 March 2015 at 16:42, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@phblaney.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon,

I know that I am being stupid but I still can’t make it work.

Snip 4 and 5 show what happens and the file extensions involved.

Patrick

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 23 March 2015 15:59
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick,

You need to move it to the location shown in my previous post, and make sure that your global options are pointing to that location also.

With the new versions of windows (Since XP) you can’t edit files in the Program files folders and sub-directories without admin permissions or if you can it generates a phantom version of the file.

Any problems let me know.

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 23 March 2015 at 15:48, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@phblaney.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Oops I forgot the other attachments, now included

From: Patrick Blaney
Sent: 23 March 2015 15:14
To: ‘sailwave@yahoogroups.com’
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Jon,

I am having difficulty in adding the additional cells on to the excel worksheet SWNHC3.xls

Firstly, the file was not in its default location, and I’m not sure why (I don’t recall setting any other default location – but maybe I did inadvertently?)

See Snip 1 for details

Then when I make the changes as you suggest I can’t save the file except in a different location and with a different name? I don’t appear to have administrator privileges.

See Snip 2 and 3 for details.

I may be just sufficiently unaware of the way to change these things that this, normal, step is beyond my excel abilities??

Grateful for any further help?

Thanks

Patrick

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 20 March 2015 11:15
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick

Not a big problem

First some background info

Sailwave is using a template SWNHC3.xls to specify the rules for the calculation This template by default is in Public Documents - Sailwave - Templates folder (C:\Users\Public\Documents\Sailwave\Templates) although you can change the folder in Sailwave - Setup - Global Options - Folders

First make a backup copy of this file then open it in Excel

Now lets assume you want to add another 10 lines

Click on the 9 of row 9 and while holding the button down move the mouse to 18 so that you have highlighted 10 rows as below

Now right click and select Copy

Now right click on the 19 and select Insert Copied Cells - see below

You have now inserted 10 more rows we just need to tell Sailwave that this template now has 10 more rows available. To do this click on the Config worksheet and change the SheetSize value from 40 to 50

Switch back to the Main sheet and select cell A4 (This is just a blank cell where the selection will appear when it runs) now save the modified sheet (must be SWNHC3.xls) and you are ready to go

The size of the sheet you use would depend upon you fleet size. It will work fine up to 200 boats but as you increase the size the spreadsheet gets larger and hence slower. Although the rows you copied look empty at first glance the cells do contain formulae.

Any problems please come back to me

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 20 March 2015 at 08:24, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon and Sailwave experts

I have encountered a problem with NHC in external mode.

My list of competitors has finally crossed the line from 40 to 41, and I am getting an error message telling me to use a larger template?

I have no idea how to do this, I assume this is with the excel spreadsheet that comes with Sailwave helper, but that spreadsheet is blank.

I attach a screen grab of same??

What should I do?

Patrick

On 18 March 2015 at 14:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Ian,

Just in case you didn’t see my earlier post - The problem you have is that you are using PY ratings - These are currently only supported in external mode

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 18 March 2015 at 04:20, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for sharing your insights.

For new entrants to a series who do not have an NHC rating from previous races, I have used PY as the default initial rating.

Given your observation I’ll use external mode.‎

Thanks,

Ian

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: Malcolm Osborne malcolmo@telkomsa.net [sailwave]

Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2015 03:09

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Reply To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

I had a similar query recently - Jon provided the answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn’t quite correct for NHC and the internal mode doesn’t cater for this. The external mode gives the correct figures (coverts correctly back to Portsmouth)

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] wrote:

Hi Jon,

Here is an example blw file which gives different race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I have also included screen shots of the race ratings so you can see what I’m seeing…

I have also noticed that when I select “custom external” mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not found in the template directory.

I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from the web site last week.

Glad to have your insights–many thanks for your patience.

Kind regards,

Ian Grant.

On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi - Ian there should be no difference - if there is then there is something wrong. With the external mode you can see all the calculations.

If you could send me a blw that has different results then I will investigate and tell you why. May be if you could tell which is the first race that is different then it would give you a clue.

May be it is it the use of some scoring code?

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 17 March 2015 at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I also have found NHC Internal Mode gives slightly different race ratings and corrected times than NHC External/custom mode. Curious why --and which mode is correct?

Ian Grant


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Jon, I have edited it, but the excel spreadsheet that comes up when I run the series gives the attached error report.

Patrick

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 23 March 2015 16:53
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick,

OK that looks good - so now you can edit it - Correct?

or have you already edited it ? What is not working?

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 23 March 2015 at 16:42, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@phblaney.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon,

I know that I am being stupid but I still can’t make it work.

Snip 4 and 5 show what happens and the file extensions involved.

Patrick

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 23 March 2015 15:59
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick,

You need to move it to the location shown in my previous post, and make sure that your global options are pointing to that location also.

With the new versions of windows (Since XP) you can’t edit files in the Program files folders and sub-directories without admin permissions or if you can it generates a phantom version of the file.

Any problems let me know.

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 23 March 2015 at 15:48, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@phblaney.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Oops I forgot the other attachments, now included

From: Patrick Blaney
Sent: 23 March 2015 15:14
To: ‘sailwave@yahoogroups.com’
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Jon,

I am having difficulty in adding the additional cells on to the excel worksheet SWNHC3.xls

Firstly, the file was not in its default location, and I’m not sure why (I don’t recall setting any other default location – but maybe I did inadvertently?)

See Snip 1 for details

Then when I make the changes as you suggest I can’t save the file except in a different location and with a different name? I don’t appear to have administrator privileges.

See Snip 2 and 3 for details.

I may be just sufficiently unaware of the way to change these things that this, normal, step is beyond my excel abilities??

Grateful for any further help?

Thanks

Patrick

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 20 March 2015 11:15
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick

Not a big problem

First some background info

Sailwave is using a template SWNHC3.xls to specify the rules for the calculation This template by default is in Public Documents - Sailwave - Templates folder (C:\Users\Public\Documents\Sailwave\Templates) although you can change the folder in Sailwave - Setup - Global Options - Folders

First make a backup copy of this file then open it in Excel

Now lets assume you want to add another 10 lines

Click on the 9 of row 9 and while holding the button down move the mouse to 18 so that you have highlighted 10 rows as below

Inline images 1

Now right click and select Copy

Now right click on the 19 and select Insert Copied Cells - see below

Inline images 4

You have now inserted 10 more rows we just need to tell Sailwave that this template now has 10 more rows available. To do this click on the Config worksheet and change the SheetSize value from 40 to 50

Inline images 3

Switch back to the Main sheet and select cell A4 (This is just a blank cell where the selection will appear when it runs) now save the modified sheet (must be SWNHC3.xls) and you are ready to go

The size of the sheet you use would depend upon you fleet size. It will work fine up to 200 boats but as you increase the size the spreadsheet gets larger and hence slower. Although the rows you copied look empty at first glance the cells do contain formulae.

Any problems please come back to me

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 20 March 2015 at 08:24, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon and Sailwave experts

I have encountered a problem with NHC in external mode.

My list of competitors has finally crossed the line from 40 to 41, and I am getting an error message telling me to use a larger template?

I have no idea how to do this, I assume this is with the excel spreadsheet that comes with Sailwave helper, but that spreadsheet is blank.

I attach a screen grab of same??

What should I do?

Patrick

On 18 March 2015 at 14:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Ian,

Just in case you didn’t see my earlier post - The problem you have is that you are using PY ratings - These are currently only supported in external mode

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 18 March 2015 at 04:20, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for sharing your insights.

For new entrants to a series who do not have an NHC rating from previous races, I have used PY as the default initial rating.

Given your observation I’ll use external mode.‎

Thanks,

Ian

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: Malcolm Osborne malcolmo@telkomsa.net [sailwave]

Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2015 03:09

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Reply To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

I had a similar query recently - Jon provided the answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn’t quite correct for NHC and the internal mode doesn’t cater for this. The external mode gives the correct figures (coverts correctly back to Portsmouth)

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] wrote:

Hi Jon,

Here is an example blw file which gives different race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I have also included screen shots of the race ratings so you can see what I’m seeing…

I have also noticed that when I select “custom external” mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not found in the template directory.

I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from the web site last week.

Glad to have your insights–many thanks for your patience.

Kind regards,

Ian Grant.

On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi - Ian there should be no difference - if there is then there is something wrong. With the external mode you can see all the calculations.

If you could send me a blw that has different results then I will investigate and tell you why. May be if you could tell which is the first race that is different then it would give you a clue.

May be it is it the use of some scoring code?

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 17 March 2015 at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I also have found NHC Internal Mode gives slightly different race ratings and corrected times than NHC External/custom mode. Curious why --and which mode is correct?

Ian Grant


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OK from the attachment the sheet size is set to 40

So either you didn’t edit the config sheet and set that to 50 (see earlier instructions) or it is not reading the correct template file in which case your configuration is wrong somewhere. Have you restarted Sailwave since you changed the locations? That may fix it.

If you need to diagnose where it is reading the template file from you can run Debugview (available free of charge from Microsoft https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb896647.aspx ) Run this before you score and it will contain within its printout where it got the template from but you should be able to get it working without this.

Jon

···

On 23 March 2015 at 17:01, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@phblaney.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon, I have edited it, but the excel spreadsheet that comes up when I run the series gives the attached error report.

Patrick

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 23 March 2015 16:53
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick,

OK that looks good - so now you can edit it - Correct?

or have you already edited it ? What is not working?

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 23 March 2015 at 16:42, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@phblaney.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon,

I know that I am being stupid but I still can’t make it work.

Snip 4 and 5 show what happens and the file extensions involved.

Patrick

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 23 March 2015 15:59
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick,

You need to move it to the location shown in my previous post, and make sure that your global options are pointing to that location also.

With the new versions of windows (Since XP) you can’t edit files in the Program files folders and sub-directories without admin permissions or if you can it generates a phantom version of the file.

Any problems let me know.

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 23 March 2015 at 15:48, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@phblaney.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Oops I forgot the other attachments, now included

From: Patrick Blaney
Sent: 23 March 2015 15:14
To: ‘sailwave@yahoogroups.com’
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Jon,

I am having difficulty in adding the additional cells on to the excel worksheet SWNHC3.xls

Firstly, the file was not in its default location, and I’m not sure why (I don’t recall setting any other default location – but maybe I did inadvertently?)

See Snip 1 for details

Then when I make the changes as you suggest I can’t save the file except in a different location and with a different name? I don’t appear to have administrator privileges.

See Snip 2 and 3 for details.

I may be just sufficiently unaware of the way to change these things that this, normal, step is beyond my excel abilities??

Grateful for any further help?

Thanks

Patrick

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 20 March 2015 11:15

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick

Not a big problem

First some background info

Sailwave is using a template SWNHC3.xls to specify the rules for the calculation This template by default is in Public Documents - Sailwave - Templates folder (C:\Users\Public\Documents\Sailwave\Templates) although you can change the folder in Sailwave - Setup - Global Options - Folders

First make a backup copy of this file then open it in Excel

Now lets assume you want to add another 10 lines

Click on the 9 of row 9 and while holding the button down move the mouse to 18 so that you have highlighted 10 rows as below

Now right click and select Copy

Now right click on the 19 and select Insert Copied Cells - see below

You have now inserted 10 more rows we just need to tell Sailwave that this template now has 10 more rows available. To do this click on the Config worksheet and change the SheetSize value from 40 to 50

Switch back to the Main sheet and select cell A4 (This is just a blank cell where the selection will appear when it runs) now save the modified sheet (must be SWNHC3.xls) and you are ready to go

The size of the sheet you use would depend upon you fleet size. It will work fine up to 200 boats but as you increase the size the spreadsheet gets larger and hence slower. Although the rows you copied look empty at first glance the cells do contain formulae.

Any problems please come back to me

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 20 March 2015 at 08:24, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Jon and Sailwave experts

I have encountered a problem with NHC in external mode.

My list of competitors has finally crossed the line from 40 to 41, and I am getting an error message telling me to use a larger template?

I have no idea how to do this, I assume this is with the excel spreadsheet that comes with Sailwave helper, but that spreadsheet is blank.

I attach a screen grab of same??

What should I do?

Patrick

On 18 March 2015 at 14:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Ian,

Just in case you didn’t see my earlier post - The problem you have is that you are using PY ratings - These are currently only supported in external mode

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 18 March 2015 at 04:20, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for sharing your insights.

For new entrants to a series who do not have an NHC rating from previous races, I have used PY as the default initial rating.

Given your observation I’ll use external mode.‎

Thanks,

Ian

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: Malcolm Osborne malcolmo@telkomsa.net [sailwave]

Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2015 03:09

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Reply To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

I had a similar query recently - Jon provided the answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn’t quite correct for NHC and the internal mode doesn’t cater for this. The external mode gives the correct figures (coverts correctly back to Portsmouth)

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] wrote:

Hi Jon,

Here is an example blw file which gives different race ratings in NHC external and internal modes. I have also included screen shots of the race ratings so you can see what I’m seeing…

I have also noticed that when I select “custom external” mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is not found in the template directory.

I am using the latest version of SW downloaded from the web site last week.

Glad to have your insights–many thanks for your patience.

Kind regards,

Ian Grant.

On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hi - Ian there should be no difference - if there is then there is something wrong. With the external mode you can see all the calculations.

If you could send me a blw that has different results then I will investigate and tell you why. May be if you could tell which is the first race that is different then it would give you a clue.

May be it is it the use of some scoring code?

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 17 March 2015 at 16:13, ian.grant12@gmail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I also have found NHC Internal Mode gives slightly different race ratings and corrected times than NHC External/custom mode. Curious why --and which mode is correct?

Ian Grant


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Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

In the Global Options window, if you click on the right hand box (View folder content), do you see (and can open) your modified excel file ?

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

···

On 2015/03/23 18:42, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@phblaney.com [sailwave] wrote:

Jon,

I know that I am being stupid but I still can’t make it work.

Snip 4 and 5 show what happens and the file extensions involved.

Patrick

*From:*sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
*Sent:* 23 March 2015 15:59
*To:* sailwave@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: FW: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

Hi Patrick,

You need to move it to the location shown in my previous post, and make sure that your global options are pointing to that location also.

With the new versions of windows (Since XP) you can't edit files in the Program files folders and sub-directories without admin permissions or if you can it generates a phantom version of the file.

Any problems let me know.

Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype "eskdale"

On 23 March 2015 at 15:48, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@phblaney.com > <mailto:patrick.blaney@phblaney.com> [sailwave] > <sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

    Oops I forgot the other attachments, now included

    *From:*Patrick Blaney
    *Sent:* 23 March 2015 15:14
    *To:* 'sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>'
    *Subject:* RE: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

    Jon,

    I am having difficulty in adding the additional cells on to the
    excel worksheet SWNHC3.xls

    Firstly, the file was not in its default location, and I’m not
    sure why (I don’t recall setting any other default location – but
    maybe I did inadvertently?)

    See Snip 1 for details

    Then when I make the changes as you suggest I can’t save the file
    except in a different location and with a different name? I don’t
    appear to have administrator privileges.

    See Snip 2 and 3 for details.

    I may be just sufficiently unaware of the way to change these
    things that this, normal, step is beyond my excel abilities??

    Grateful for any further help?

    Thanks

    Patrick

    *From:*sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
    [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
    *Sent:* 20 March 2015 11:15
    *To:* sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

    Hi Patrick

    Not a big problem

    First some background info

    Sailwave is using a template SWNHC3.xls to specify the rules for
    the calculation This template by default is in Public Documents -
    Sailwave - Templates folder
    (C:\Users\Public\Documents\Sailwave\Templates) although you can
    change the folder in Sailwave - Setup - Global Options - Folders

    First make a backup copy of this file then open it in Excel

    Now lets assume you want to add another 10 lines

    Click on the 9 of row 9 and while holding the button down move the
    mouse to 18 so that you have highlighted 10 rows as below

    Inline images 1

    Now right click and select Copy

    Now right click on the 19 and select Insert Copied Cells - see below

    Inline images 4

    You have now inserted 10 more rows we just need to tell Sailwave
    that this template now has 10 more rows available. To do this
    click on the Config worksheet and change the SheetSize value from
    40 to 50

    Inline images 3

    Switch back to the Main sheet and select cell A4 (This is just a
    blank cell where the selection will appear when it runs) now save
    the modified sheet (must be SWNHC3.xls) and you are ready to go

    The size of the sheet you use would depend upon you fleet size. It will work fine up to 200 boats but as you increase the size the
    spreadsheet gets larger and hence slower. Although the rows you
    copied look empty at first glance the cells do contain formulae.

    Any problems please come back to me

    Jon

    Jon Eskdale

    07976 709777 <tel:07976%20709777>

    Skype "eskdale"

    On 20 March 2015 at 08:24, Patrick Blaney patrick.blaney@gmail.com > <mailto:patrick.blaney@gmail.com> [sailwave] > <sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

        Jon and Sailwave experts

        I have encountered a problem with NHC in external mode.

        My list of competitors has finally crossed the line from 40 to
        41, and I am getting an error message telling me to use a
        larger template?

        I have no idea how to do this, I assume this is with the excel
        spreadsheet that comes with Sailwave helper, but that
        spreadsheet is blank.

        I attach a screen grab of same??

        What should I do?

        Patrick

        On 18 March 2015 at 14:21, Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com > <mailto:jon@sailwave.com> [sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

            Hi Ian,

            Just in case you didn't see my earlier post - The problem
            you have is that you are using PY ratings - These are
            currently only supported in external mode

            Jon

            Jon Eskdale

            07976 709777 <tel:07976%20709777>

            Skype "eskdale"

            On 18 March 2015 at 04:20, ian.grant12@gmail.com > <mailto:ian.grant12@gmail.com> [sailwave] > <sailwave@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

                Hi Malcolm,

                Thanks for sharing your insights.

                 For new entrants to a series who do not have an NHC
                rating from previous races, I have used PY as the
                default initial rating.

                Given your observation I'll use external mode.‎

                Thanks,

                Ian

                Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

                *From: *Malcolm Osborne malcolmo@telkomsa.net
                <mailto:malcolmo@telkomsa.net> [sailwave]

                *Sent: *Wednesday, 18 March 2015 03:09

                *To: *sailwave@yahoogroups.com
                <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>

                *Reply To: *sailwave@yahoogroups.com
                <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>

                *Subject: *Re: [sailwave] Re: NHC question

                I had a similar query recently - Jon provided the
                answer - using Portsmouth ratings isn't quite correct
                for NHC and the internal mode doesn't cater for this.
                The external mode gives the correct figures (coverts
                correctly back to Portsmouth)

                regards,

                Malcolm Osborne

                Sedgefield South Africa

                On 2015/03/17 19:03, Ian Grant ian.grant12@gmail.com > <mailto:ian.grant12@gmail.com> [sailwave] wrote:

                    Hi Jon,

                    Here is an example blw file which gives different
                    race ratings in NHC external and internal
                    modes. I have also included screen shots of the
                    race ratings so you can see what I'm seeing..

                    I have also noticed that when I select "custom
                    external" mode a message appears saying SWNHC4 is
                    not found in the template directory.

                    I am using the latest version of SW downloaded
                    from the web site last week.

                    Glad to have your insights--many thanks for your
                    patience.

                    Kind regards,

                    Ian Grant.

                    On 17 March 2015 at 20:21, Jon Eskdale > jon@sailwave.com <mailto:jon@sailwave.com> > [sailwave] <sailwave@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

                        Hi - Ian there should be no difference - if
                        there is then there is something wrong. With
                        the external mode you can see all the
                        calculations.

                        If you could send me a blw that has different
                        results then I will investigate and tell you
                        why. May be if you could tell which is the
                        first race that is different then it would
                        give you a clue.

                        May be it is it the use of some scoring code?

                        Jon

                        Jon Eskdale

                        07976 709777 <tel:07976%20709777>

                        Skype "eskdale"

                        On 17 March 2015 at 16:13, > ian.grant12@gmail.com > <mailto:ian.grant12@gmail.com> [sailwave] > <sailwave@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

                            I also have found NHC Internal Mode gives
                            slightly different race ratings and
                            corrected times than NHC External/custom
                            mode. Curious why --and which mode is
                            correct?

                            Ian Grant

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