Hi,
I am in the process of publishing results and have noted that the HTML
output only works properly with Internet Explorer. In viewing the
results with either Netscape or Mozilla the results table is left
justified while the header/footer are center justified. This requires
me to manually edit each page in Netscape prior to publishing.
Is there a way to get Sailwave to output proper HTML or are you
limited to the Microsoft version?
Thanks,
Bill Newberry
Hi Bill,
Sailwave generates the HTML so everything is under out control. If you can
identify what the problem is, I'll tweak it this end.
Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com
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Sent: 11 June 2004 14:31
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Subject: [sailwave] Not using Internet ExplorerHi,
I am in the process of publishing results and have noted that the HTML
output only works properly with Internet Explorer. In viewing the
results with either Netscape or Mozilla the results table is left
justified while the header/footer are center justified. This requires
me to manually edit each page in Netscape prior to publishing.Is there a way to get Sailwave to output proper HTML or are you
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I've noticed this myself before but never bothered to look see what
the problem is. Got a bit bored in work and had a look since someone
else mentioned it.
I reckon the css for table.main should be
{margin: 20px auto 20px auto; border-collapse: collapse; text-align:
center;}
instead of
{margin: 20px 0 20px 0; border-collapse: collapse; text-align:
center;}
i.e auto instead of 0 for the left and right margins.
I quickly tried changing a copy of one of my results pages and it
seems to work in Mozilla Firefox 0.8 and IE 6
Hope this helps
Steve Atkinson
Carrickfergus Sailing Club
Hi Bill,
Sailwave generates the HTML so everything is under out control. If
you can
identify what the problem is, I'll tweak it this end.
Regards,
Colin
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> Sent: 11 June 2004 14:31
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Not using Internet Explorer
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am in the process of publishing results and have noted that the
HTML
> output only works properly with Internet Explorer. In viewing the
> results with either Netscape or Mozilla the results table is left
> justified while the header/footer are center justified. This
requires
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> me to manually edit each page in Netscape prior to publishing.
>
> Is there a way to get Sailwave to output proper HTML or are you
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> Thanks,
> Bill Newberry
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Steve,
Thank you for taking the time to sift through the HTML. I can also
verify that the change to settings for "table.main" resolves the
problem when viewing with Netscape.
table.main {margin: 20px auto 20px auto; border-collapse:
collapse; text-align: center;}
Colin,
Would it be possible to include this in a future release?
Thanks!
Bill
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<Steve.Atkinson@w...> wrote:
I've noticed this myself before but never bothered to look see what
the problem is. Got a bit bored in work and had a look since someone
else mentioned it.
I reckon the css for table.main should be
{margin: 20px auto 20px auto; border-collapse: collapse; text-align:
center;}
instead of
{margin: 20px 0 20px 0; border-collapse: collapse; text-align:
center;}
i.e auto instead of 0 for the left and right margins.I quickly tried changing a copy of one of my results pages and it
seems to work in Mozilla Firefox 0.8 and IE 6Hope this helps
Steve Atkinson
Carrickfergus Sailing Club— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Jenkins" <colin@s…> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> Sailwave generates the HTML so everything is under out control. If
you can
> identify what the problem is, I'll tweak it this end.
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
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> > [mailto:william.newberry@f…]
> > Sent: 11 June 2004 14:31
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> > Subject: [sailwave] Not using Internet Explorer
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am in the process of publishing results and have noted that the
HTML
> > output only works properly with Internet Explorer. In viewing the
> > results with either Netscape or Mozilla the results table is left
> > justified while the header/footer are center justified. This
requires
> > me to manually edit each page in Netscape prior to publishing.
> >
> > Is there a way to get Sailwave to output proper HTML or are you
> > limited to the Microsoft version?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bill Newberry
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Hi Bill and Steve,
I've tweaked all the factory styles to conform to your changes. If you
need an immediate fix, you can edit the relevant files in sailwave/styles.
If anybody has their own styles, can you review please...
Thanks for the feedback and the fix.
Will be available in 1.56 due out soon.
Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com
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Sent: 14 June 2004 17:09
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Not using Internet ExplorerSteve,
Thank you for taking the time to sift through the HTML. I can also
verify that the change to settings for "table.main" resolves the
problem when viewing with Netscape.table.main {margin: 20px auto 20px auto; border-collapse:
collapse; text-align: center;}Colin,
Would it be possible to include this in a future release?
Thanks!
Bill— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "steven_atkinson"
<Steve.Atkinson@w…> wrote:
> I've noticed this myself before but never bothered to look see what
> the problem is. Got a bit bored in work and had a look since someone
> else mentioned it.
> I reckon the css for table.main should be
> {margin: 20px auto 20px auto; border-collapse: collapse; text-align:
> center;}
> instead of
> {margin: 20px 0 20px 0; border-collapse: collapse; text-align:
> center;}
> i.e auto instead of 0 for the left and right margins.
>
> I quickly tried changing a copy of one of my results pages and it
> seems to work in Mozilla Firefox 0.8 and IE 6
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Steve Atkinson
> Carrickfergus Sailing Club
>
> — In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Jenkins" <colin@s…> wrote:
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > Sailwave generates the HTML so everything is under out control. If
> you can
> > identify what the problem is, I'll tweak it this end.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Colin
> > www.sailwave.com
> >
> >
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> > > From: william.newberry@f…
> > > [mailto:william.newberry@f…]
> > > Sent: 11 June 2004 14:31
> > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [sailwave] Not using Internet Explorer
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am in the process of publishing results and have noted that the
> HTML
> > > output only works properly with Internet Explorer. In viewing the
> > > results with either Netscape or Mozilla the results table is left
> > > justified while the header/footer are center justified. This
> requires
> > > me to manually edit each page in Netscape prior to publishing.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to get Sailwave to output proper HTML or are you
> > > limited to the Microsoft version?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bill Newberry
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Colin,
A sincere thank you! I have already updated the file in the styles
folder and will use it to publish results for this weekend's regatta.
Regards,
Bill
Hi Bill and Steve,
I've tweaked all the factory styles to conform to your changes. If you
need an immediate fix, you can edit the relevant files in
sailwave/styles.
If anybody has their own styles, can you review please...
Thanks for the feedback and the fix.
Will be available in 1.56 due out soon.
Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com> From: william.newberry@f…
> [mailto:william.newberry@f…]
> Sent: 14 June 2004 17:09
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Re: Not using Internet Explorer
>
>
> Steve,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to sift through the HTML. I can also
> verify that the change to settings for "table.main" resolves the
> problem when viewing with Netscape.
>
> table.main {margin: 20px auto 20px auto; border-collapse:
> collapse; text-align: center;}
>
> Colin,
>
> Would it be possible to include this in a future release?
>
> Thanks!
> Bill
>
>
> — In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "steven_atkinson"
> <Steve.Atkinson@w…> wrote:
> > I've noticed this myself before but never bothered to look see what
> > the problem is. Got a bit bored in work and had a look since someone
> > else mentioned it.
> > I reckon the css for table.main should be
> > {margin: 20px auto 20px auto; border-collapse: collapse; text-align:
> > center;}
> > instead of
> > {margin: 20px 0 20px 0; border-collapse: collapse; text-align:
> > center;}
> > i.e auto instead of 0 for the left and right margins.
> >
> > I quickly tried changing a copy of one of my results pages and it
> > seems to work in Mozilla Firefox 0.8 and IE 6
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> > Steve Atkinson
> > Carrickfergus Sailing Club
> >
> > > Hi Bill,
> > >
> > > Sailwave generates the HTML so everything is under out
control. If
> > you can
> > > identify what the problem is, I'll tweak it this end.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Colin
> > > www.sailwave.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: william.newberry@f…
> > > > [mailto:william.newberry@f…]
> > > > Sent: 11 June 2004 14:31
> > > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [sailwave] Not using Internet Explorer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am in the process of publishing results and have noted
that the
> > HTML
> > > > output only works properly with Internet Explorer. In
viewing the
> > > > results with either Netscape or Mozilla the results table is
left
> > > > justified while the header/footer are center justified. This
> > requires
> > > > me to manually edit each page in Netscape prior to publishing.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to get Sailwave to output proper HTML or are you
> > > > limited to the Microsoft version?
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When entering results, I think things could be sped up slightly by
adding the following features
1. The default box should be the time field instead of position.
2. If a time is entered, or code selected, the time or code field
should automatically be selected
3. If the first entries finishinng time and number of laps is
entered, The rest of the entries should by default have the same
number of laps for that race.
Regards
Terry
Hi Terry,
I'm not sure which version you're referring to, but 1.57 (latest release)
should operate like that if you've defined either backstop 'finishes' stype
in Edit+ScoringSystem Race tab or have defined starts in Edit+Race.
Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com
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From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
Sent: 25 July 2004 10:29
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Entering ResultsWhen entering results, I think things could be sped up slightly by
adding the following features1. The default box should be the time field instead of position.
2. If a time is entered, or code selected, the time or code field
should automatically be selected
3. If the first entries finishinng time and number of laps is
entered, The rest of the entries should by default have the same
number of laps for that race.Regards
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Yep, I have 1.57 (downloaded today), followed your instructions and
appear to have it working now, however I still need to enter the
number of laps.
Regards
Terry
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 12:51 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering ResultsHi Terry,
I'm not sure which version you're referring to, but 1.57
(latest release)
should operate like that if you've defined either backstop
'finishes' stype
in Edit+ScoringSystem Race tab or have defined starts in Edit+Race.Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com> From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
> Sent: 25 July 2004 10:29
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Entering Results
>
>
> When entering results, I think things could be sped up slightly
by
> adding the following features
>
> 1. The default box should be the time field instead of position.
> 2. If a time is entered, or code selected, the time or code field
> should automatically be selected
> 3. If the first entries finishinng time and number of laps is
> entered, The rest of the entries should by default have the same
> number of laps for that race.
>
> Regards
> Terry
>
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> -----Original Message-----
Colin
Please be careful in setting a default of all boats completing the same
number of laps.
In BIG multi-class General Handicap races, the only practical way to get
races in is to use Average Lap Racing.
In a perfect world, Sailwave could require the user to select Ave Lap or
"Same Laps" and THEN meeting Terry's request would be fine.
Otherwise I would prefer the hassle of entering laps each time if it means
avoiding human error issues
Regards
Ralph Tingle
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
Sent: 25 July 2004 20:56
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering Results
Yep, I have 1.57 (downloaded today), followed your instructions and
appear to have it working now, however I still need to enter the
number of laps.
Regards
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 12:51 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering ResultsHi Terry,
I'm not sure which version you're referring to, but 1.57
(latest release)
should operate like that if you've defined either backstop
'finishes' stype
in Edit+ScoringSystem Race tab or have defined starts in Edit+Race.Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
> Sent: 25 July 2004 10:29
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Entering Results
>
>
> When entering results, I think things could be sped up slightly
by
> adding the following features
>
> 1. The default box should be the time field instead of position.
> 2. If a time is entered, or code selected, the time or code field
> should automatically be selected
> 3. If the first entries finishinng time and number of laps is
> entered, The rest of the entries should by default have the same
> number of laps for that race.
>
> Regards
> Terry
>
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Hi Ralph,
The way it should work (it appears to be broken) is that Sailwave will look
in the competitors in the same class of the start first to get a default -
this is fairly useful because under ALR, classes tend to do the same number
of laps. If it doesn't find an entry it drops the 'same class' restriction
a looks for laps set by boats in the same start. There is no backstop
default.
Note that the 'fleet' concept as something special is gradually being
removed and will disappear alltogether soon.
Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Tingle [mailto:rat@attat.com]
Sent: 25 July 2004 22:21
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering ResultsColin
Please be careful in setting a default of all boats completing the same
number of laps.
In BIG multi-class General Handicap races, the only practical way to get
races in is to use Average Lap Racing.
In a perfect world, Sailwave could require the user to select Ave Lap or
"Same Laps" and THEN meeting Terry's request would be fine.
Otherwise I would prefer the hassle of entering laps each time if it means
avoiding human error issuesRegards
Ralph Tingle-----Original Message-----
From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
Sent: 25 July 2004 20:56
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering ResultsYep, I have 1.57 (downloaded today), followed your instructions and
appear to have it working now, however I still need to enter the
number of laps.Regards
Terry> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 12:51 PM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering Results
>
>
> Hi Terry,
>
> I'm not sure which version you're referring to, but 1.57
> (latest release)
> should operate like that if you've defined either backstop
> 'finishes' stype
> in Edit+ScoringSystem Race tab or have defined starts in Edit+Race.
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
> > Sent: 25 July 2004 10:29
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [sailwave] Entering Results
> >
> >
> > When entering results, I think things could be sped up slightly
by
> > adding the following features
> >
> > 1. The default box should be the time field instead of position.
> > 2. If a time is entered, or code selected, the time or code field
> > should automatically be selected
> > 3. If the first entries finishinng time and number of laps is
> > entered, The rest of the entries should by default have the same
> > number of laps for that race.
> >
> > Regards
> > Terry
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I'll check it out - it should look in the same start/class then just start
for a value. CJ.
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From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
Sent: 25 July 2004 20:56
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering ResultsYep, I have 1.57 (downloaded today), followed your instructions and
appear to have it working now, however I still need to enter the
number of laps.Regards
Terry> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 12:51 PM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering Results
>
>
> Hi Terry,
>
> I'm not sure which version you're referring to, but 1.57
> (latest release)
> should operate like that if you've defined either backstop
> 'finishes' stype
> in Edit+ScoringSystem Race tab or have defined starts in Edit+Race.
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
> > Sent: 25 July 2004 10:29
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [sailwave] Entering Results
> >
> >
> > When entering results, I think things could be sped up slightly
by
> > adding the following features
> >
> > 1. The default box should be the time field instead of position.
> > 2. If a time is entered, or code selected, the time or code field
> > should automatically be selected
> > 3. If the first entries finishinng time and number of laps is
> > entered, The rest of the entries should by default have the same
> > number of laps for that race.
> >
> > Regards
> > Terry
> >
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Hi Colin
Thanks for your explanation but 'disturbed' with your
Note that the 'fleet' concept as something special is gradually being
removed and will disappear alltogether soon.
I hope this does not mean what I think it says as being able to score by
fleets and all together is one of the (many) great options which Sailwave
has to offer.
Please tell me that I have misinterpreted your comment (:-0)
Regards
Ralph
-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: 26 July 2004 09:20
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering Results
Hi Ralph,
The way it should work (it appears to be broken) is that Sailwave will look
in the competitors in the same class of the start first to get a default -
this is fairly useful because under ALR, classes tend to do the same number
of laps. If it doesn't find an entry it drops the 'same class' restriction
a looks for laps set by boats in the same start. There is no backstop
default.
Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Tingle [mailto:rat@attat.com]
Sent: 25 July 2004 22:21
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering ResultsColin
Please be careful in setting a default of all boats completing the same
number of laps.
In BIG multi-class General Handicap races, the only practical way to get
races in is to use Average Lap Racing.
In a perfect world, Sailwave could require the user to select Ave Lap or
"Same Laps" and THEN meeting Terry's request would be fine.
Otherwise I would prefer the hassle of entering laps each time if it means
avoiding human error issuesRegards
Ralph Tingle-----Original Message-----
From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
Sent: 25 July 2004 20:56
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering ResultsYep, I have 1.57 (downloaded today), followed your instructions and
appear to have it working now, however I still need to enter the
number of laps.Regards
Terry> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 12:51 PM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering Results
>
>
> Hi Terry,
>
> I'm not sure which version you're referring to, but 1.57
> (latest release)
> should operate like that if you've defined either backstop
> 'finishes' stype
> in Edit+ScoringSystem Race tab or have defined starts in Edit+Race.
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
> > Sent: 25 July 2004 10:29
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [sailwave] Entering Results
> >
> >
> > When entering results, I think things could be sped up slightly
by
> > adding the following features
> >
> > 1. The default box should be the time field instead of position.
> > 2. If a time is entered, or code selected, the time or code field
> > should automatically be selected
> > 3. If the first entries finishinng time and number of laps is
> > entered, The rest of the entries should by default have the same
> > number of laps for that race.
> >
> > Regards
> > Terry
> >
> >
> >
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Hi Ralph,
Thanks for your explanation but 'disturbed' with your
>Note that the 'fleet' concept as something special is gradually being
removed and will disappear alltogether soon.
I hope this does not mean what I think it says as being able to score by
fleets and all together is one of the (many) great options which Sailwave
has to offer.
Please tell me that I have misinterpreted your comment (:-0)
You have misinterpreted me 
What it means is that I want to generalise things so that you can score by
any column, not just fleet. And when doing so, set up different scoring
options that will stick. This includes scoring by the same column in
various ways (e.g. different rating system). As a side effect of the the
Edit+Fleets stuff will become Edit+ScoringProfiles or something - a scoring
profile specifying which column to score by - which may indeed be fleet.
No existing functionality will be removed - it'll just be generalised and
repackaged as being able to define a set of 'score the series like this'
records. V flexible when done.
Note also that things like fleet specific race distances will be moved to
the start records where they belong.
In general this is my goal:-
- a *flat* database - i.e. just a list of competitors with values in
columns.
- the ability to define that "the boats sailed like this" - e.g. starts +
results.
- the ability to score the boats like this, and this, and this...
- the ability to publish the results like this, and this, and this.
In the interim there will some uglies...
Does that make sense?
Regards,
Colin
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Phew!!! My 1st 'birthday' after last year's heart probs comes up soon &
thought I might have to go back in again ;-))))
Instead, Sailwave is moving from strength to strength. Sadly, I do not have
much chance to use Sailwave these days but this does not stop me preaching
the gospel according to St Colin!!
Bit over the top but just my way of saying keep going & ask users to be
patient - where else can you get such a fantastic service - some of us
remember the dark days when we had to use the old grey cells, pencil &
paper!!
Regards
Ralph
-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: 27 July 2004 12:10
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering Results
Hi Ralph,
Thanks for your explanation but 'disturbed' with your
>Note that the 'fleet' concept as something special is gradually being
removed and will disappear alltogether soon.
I hope this does not mean what I think it says as being able to score by
fleets and all together is one of the (many) great options which Sailwave
has to offer.
Please tell me that I have misinterpreted your comment (:-0)
You have misinterpreted me
What it means is that I want to generalise things so that you can score by
any column, not just fleet. And when doing so, set up different scoring
options that will stick. This includes scoring by the same column in
various ways (e.g. different rating system). As a side effect of the the
Edit+Fleets stuff will become Edit+ScoringProfiles or something - a scoring
profile specifying which column to score by - which may indeed be fleet.
No existing functionality will be removed - it'll just be generalised and
repackaged as being able to define a set of 'score the series like this'
records. V flexible when done.
Note also that things like fleet specific race distances will be moved to
the start records where they belong.
In general this is my goal:-
- a *flat* database - i.e. just a list of competitors with values in
columns.
- the ability to define that "the boats sailed like this" - e.g. starts +
results.
- the ability to score the boats like this, and this, and this...
- the ability to publish the results like this, and this, and this.
In the interim there will some uglies...
Does that make sense?
Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com
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Hi Ralph,
Glad you are well and thanks for the kind words; don't worry, I won't quote
you...
It's getting there but it's a *lot* of work. One day it is going to have to
become a pay-for product even though in the early days I was "committed" to
a free service; it was just a naive idea. What'll probably happen is there
will always be a free version that can score a series with, but will not
have the multiple starts and multiple scoring methods enabled etc. i.e. if
you want to score a straight-forward flat series and publish the results,
it'll do it.
Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Tingle [mailto:rat@attat.com]
Sent: 28 July 2004 09:04
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering ResultsPhew!!! My 1st 'birthday' after last year's heart probs comes up soon &
thought I might have to go back in again ;-))))
Instead, Sailwave is moving from strength to strength. Sadly, I
do not have
much chance to use Sailwave these days but this does not stop me preaching
the gospel according to St Colin!!
Bit over the top but just my way of saying keep going & ask users to be
patient - where else can you get such a fantastic service - some of us
remember the dark days when we had to use the old grey cells, pencil &
paper!!Regards
Ralph-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: 27 July 2004 12:10
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Entering ResultsHi Ralph,
> Thanks for your explanation but 'disturbed' with your
> >Note that the 'fleet' concept as something special is gradually being
> removed and will disappear alltogether soon.
> I hope this does not mean what I think it says as being able to score by
> fleets and all together is one of the (many) great options
which Sailwave
> has to offer.
> Please tell me that I have misinterpreted your comment (:-0)You have misinterpreted me
What it means is that I want to generalise things so that you can score by
any column, not just fleet. And when doing so, set up different scoring
options that will stick. This includes scoring by the same column in
various ways (e.g. different rating system). As a side effect of the the
Edit+Fleets stuff will become Edit+ScoringProfiles or something -
a scoring
profile specifying which column to score by - which may indeed be fleet.No existing functionality will be removed - it'll just be generalised and
repackaged as being able to define a set of 'score the series like this'
records. V flexible when done.Note also that things like fleet specific race distances will be moved to
the start records where they belong.In general this is my goal:-
- a *flat* database - i.e. just a list of competitors with values in
columns.
- the ability to define that "the boats sailed like this" - e.g. starts +
results.
- the ability to score the boats like this, and this, and this...
- the ability to publish the results like this, and this, and this.In the interim there will some uglies...
Does that make sense?
Regards,
Colin
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