At our club we are interested in using personal handicaps alongside the Py handicaps currently used. The idea is to produce a normal set of results and a personal handicap set of results.
At a previous club, many years ago,we did this for the Wednesday night series with some success. From what I recall it worked something like this. The average corrected time was calculated for a race, the personal handicap for each sailor was calculated by adjusting the PY by a formula comparing their corrected time to the average. Therefore personal handicaps were adjusted after each race. Not explained brilliantly but hope you get the gist.
My question is does sailwave have a facility for personal handicaps or can it be setup to do this?
Thanks - Chris
Hi Chris,
The answer is basically yes although depending upon the complexity of the calculation you want to use to specify for deriving the new rating you may need to have Excel installed as well as Sailwave although the process of loading the data into and out of Excel is completely automated so very easy to use once you set it up.
Sailwave allows every competitor to have a different rating for each race.
On the Tools menu there is a tool which can modify the rating based on a simple expression.
Sailwave also supports the RYA National Handicap for Cruisers (NHC) system. Now this is where it gets interesting. Sailwave has the support for NHC built in but also supports a debug external mode where it can use Excel to do the calculations based on a template. Now you can change this template to do anything you wish. Which is what a few users have already done. Jonathan Edwards on the forum here has recently created a template which will do personal handicap calculations based on the PYS system.
Sailwave can also create results for both fixed handicap and personal handicap from the same set of results so no need to enter the results twice. This uses the Alias system. If you do a search of the forum you will find some video’s which may help you
Hope this helps
Jon
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On 2 September 2013 18:09, chris_mark_98@yahoo.com wrote:
At our club we are interested in using personal handicaps alongside the Py handicaps currently used. The idea is to produce a normal set of results and a personal handicap set of results.
At a previous club, many years ago,we did this for the Wednesday night series with some success. From what I recall it worked something like this. The average corrected time was calculated for a race, the personal handicap for each sailor was calculated by adjusting the PY by a formula comparing their corrected time to the average. Therefore personal handicaps were adjusted after each race. Not explained brilliantly but hope you get the gist.
My question is does sailwave have a facility for personal handicaps or can it be setup to do this?
Thanks - Chris
One minor comment - you would probably be better off using the MEDIAN
corrected time rather than the AVERAGE. The AVERAGE can be effected too
much by one or two boats that are far ahead or far behind the others.
The MEDIAN is the middle of an odd number of boats or the average of the
middle two boats of an even number of boats. Excel has a MEDIAN function
which does this automatically.
This is what my club does (we adjust by 15% of the difference so ratings
don't move too quickly).
Art
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On 9/2/2013 10:09 AM, chris_mark_98@yahoo.com wrote:
At our club we are interested in using personal handicaps alongside the Py
handicaps currently used. The idea is to produce a normal set of results and a
personal handicap set of results.
At a previous club, many years ago,we did this for the Wednesday night series
with some success. From what I recall it worked something like this. The average
corrected time was calculated for a race, the personal handicap for each sailor
was calculated by adjusting the PY by a formula comparing their corrected time
to the average. Therefore personal handicaps were adjusted after each race. Not
explained brilliantly but hope you get the gist.
My question is does sailwave have a facility for personal handicaps or can it be
setup to do this?
Thanks - Chris