Once a year I score a regatta and before hand I ask a similar
question. "How the heck do I get decent quality print from Sailwave?"
I set up the printer to landscape orientation. Set up Word to
Landscape and alter the margins to suit. I'm a Wordperfect user but
while it will remember settings it wont import Sailwave output nicely.
I can't use Frontpage for it is stupid about pagebreaks and can print
half lines of text on different pages. Forced to use Word. If I start
Word normally it will come up in landscape orientation. But when
importing Sailwave output it always starts in portrait. It drives me
nuts. I admit I know nothing about HTML editing. So what do all you
Sailwave users do to get decent looking output that sailors can see
from the back of the crowd? Clearly I'm missunderstanding some aspect
of the arcane ritual. Any help please? Thanks, Donald
Hi Donald,
Nice to hear from you again.
We always print the results from the browser; presumably that doesn't work
for you - can you explain (again?) a little bit about why...
Regards,
Colin
···
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From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@stmarys.ca]
Sent: 22 June 2004 03:28
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Printing ProblemsOnce a year I score a regatta and before hand I ask a similar
question. "How the heck do I get decent quality print from Sailwave?"
I set up the printer to landscape orientation. Set up Word to
Landscape and alter the margins to suit. I'm a Wordperfect user but
while it will remember settings it wont import Sailwave output nicely.
I can't use Frontpage for it is stupid about pagebreaks and can print
half lines of text on different pages. Forced to use Word. If I start
Word normally it will come up in landscape orientation. But when
importing Sailwave output it always starts in portrait. It drives me
nuts. I admit I know nothing about HTML editing. So what do all you
Sailwave users do to get decent looking output that sailors can see
from the back of the crowd? Clearly I'm missunderstanding some aspect
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Donald:
I send the results to Frontpage. Set up the paper to the size and
orientation, then look in Print Preview and see where you need a page
break, highlight the cells you want to delete and delete them. Print
the first page, undelete the cells and delete the cells above them
and print the second page. Works well for me.
Yours
John Crawley
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "longcove2002" <Donald.Wyllie@s...>
wrote:
Once a year I score a regatta and before hand I ask a similar
question. "How the heck do I get decent quality print from
Sailwave?"
I set up the printer to landscape orientation. Set up Word to
Landscape and alter the margins to suit. I'm a Wordperfect user but
while it will remember settings it wont import Sailwave output
nicely.
I can't use Frontpage for it is stupid about pagebreaks and can
half lines of text on different pages. Forced to use Word. If I
start
Word normally it will come up in landscape orientation. But when
importing Sailwave output it always starts in portrait. It drives me
nuts. I admit I know nothing about HTML editing. So what do all you
Sailwave users do to get decent looking output that sailors can see
from the back of the crowd? Clearly I'm missunderstanding some
aspect
···
of the arcane ritual. Any help please? Thanks, Donald
I recently had to print a series with too many races to fit on a landscape page. Internet Explorer couldn't handle it and dropped the excess.
I solved the problem by exporting the results to Excel and printing from that application.
Malcolm Osborne
Benoni, South Africa
···
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From: longcove2002
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:28 AM
Subject: [sailwave] Printing Problems
Once a year I score a regatta and before hand I ask a similar
question. "How the heck do I get decent quality print from Sailwave?"
I set up the printer to landscape orientation. Set up Word to
Landscape and alter the margins to suit. I'm a Wordperfect user but
while it will remember settings it wont import Sailwave output nicely.
I can't use Frontpage for it is stupid about pagebreaks and can print
half lines of text on different pages. Forced to use Word. If I start
Word normally it will come up in landscape orientation. But when
importing Sailwave output it always starts in portrait. It drives me
nuts. I admit I know nothing about HTML editing. So what do all you
Sailwave users do to get decent looking output that sailors can see
from the back of the crowd? Clearly I'm missunderstanding some aspect
of the arcane ritual. Any help please? Thanks, Donald
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Hi Colin: One chap already replied explaining what he does to print
from Frontpage. It seemed to be immensely tedious deleting rows and so
on. So,I really have two questions. One is that output from Sailwave
seems to override the Word settings. I set up Word & the printer to
Landscape and Word remembers this for ordinary documents. But output
from Sailwave always comes up in Portrait orientation. Is it Sailwave?
Secondly, the reason I use Word is that allows me to see page breaks.
If I use a web editor printed output can have the top half of a row of
characters on one page and the bottom half on another. OK, I could
slice the pages up with a knife and join them together. The chap who
kindly replied said that he temporarily deletes rows, prints,
undeletes those rows and deletes what he printed etc. - more or less.
This is unbelieveably crude and time consuming. I have about 8 fleets
which run to three or four pages of printout for each fleet. I would
be up half the night getting results published. Maybe it is something
we have to expect when we use Microsoft products! Or, more likely, it
is me not understanding how web editors work. But I can find no
mechanism which will make what I see on the screen print on paper when
using a web editor.
This has been my rant for several years now. But I still have no idea
how other users deal with this problem.
A final problem. I have just set up Sailwave on a computer to go to
the Club. For practice I put last year's results on a floppy and
transferred them to a new folder on the new computer. Now, when I try
to publish, Sailwave says that it can't find the floppy even though
the data is in a folder on the c: drive. I have to hit continue. Is
there something embedded doing this? Should I have just transferred
the .blw files rather than all the files generated by Sailwave in that
Regatta folder?
Bye, Disturbed in Bedford
Hi Donald,
Nice to hear from you again.
We always print the results from the browser; presumably that
doesn't work
···
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for you - can you explain (again?) a little bit about why...
Regards,
Colin> -----Original Message-----
> From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@s…]
> Sent: 22 June 2004 03:28
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Printing Problems
>
>
> Once a year I score a regatta and before hand I ask a similar
> question. "How the heck do I get decent quality print from Sailwave?"
> I set up the printer to landscape orientation. Set up Word to
> Landscape and alter the margins to suit. I'm a Wordperfect user but
> while it will remember settings it wont import Sailwave output nicely.
> I can't use Frontpage for it is stupid about pagebreaks and can print
> half lines of text on different pages. Forced to use Word. If I start
> Word normally it will come up in landscape orientation. But when
> importing Sailwave output it always starts in portrait. It drives me
> nuts. I admit I know nothing about HTML editing. So what do all you
> Sailwave users do to get decent looking output that sailors can see
> from the back of the crowd? Clearly I'm missunderstanding some aspect
> of the arcane ritual. Any help please? Thanks, Donald
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Hi Donald et al,
The original idea was to generate HTML and then get a web browser to print
it. As I understand it, the problem with this is twofold:-
1. Some browsers split the table rows in half at the bottom of a page,
making that row spread across two pages vertically and hence is unreadable.
I've never seen a browser do this - it always splits the row at a sensible
place so the text itself is never split.
2. When using a large font (or a long series) the number of columns can
overflow a landscape sheet of paper horizontally - and browsers do not
handle this.
Is that correct?
Or is 1. more do to with the fact that the header rows are only available on
the first page?
Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com
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From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@smu.ca]
Sent: 23 June 2004 13:08
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Printing ProblemsHi Colin: One chap already replied explaining what he does to print
from Frontpage. It seemed to be immensely tedious deleting rows and so
on. So,I really have two questions. One is that output from Sailwave
seems to override the Word settings. I set up Word & the printer to
Landscape and Word remembers this for ordinary documents. But output
from Sailwave always comes up in Portrait orientation. Is it Sailwave?
Secondly, the reason I use Word is that allows me to see page breaks.
If I use a web editor printed output can have the top half of a row of
characters on one page and the bottom half on another. OK, I could
slice the pages up with a knife and join them together. The chap who
kindly replied said that he temporarily deletes rows, prints,
undeletes those rows and deletes what he printed etc. - more or less.
This is unbelieveably crude and time consuming. I have about 8 fleets
which run to three or four pages of printout for each fleet. I would
be up half the night getting results published. Maybe it is something
we have to expect when we use Microsoft products! Or, more likely, it
is me not understanding how web editors work. But I can find no
mechanism which will make what I see on the screen print on paper when
using a web editor.
This has been my rant for several years now. But I still have no idea
how other users deal with this problem.
A final problem. I have just set up Sailwave on a computer to go to
the Club. For practice I put last year's results on a floppy and
transferred them to a new folder on the new computer. Now, when I try
to publish, Sailwave says that it can't find the floppy even though
the data is in a folder on the c: drive. I have to hit continue. Is
there something embedded doing this? Should I have just transferred
the .blw files rather than all the files generated by Sailwave in that
Regatta folder?
Bye, Disturbed in Bedford— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Jenkins" <colin@s…> wrote:
> Hi Donald,
>
> Nice to hear from you again.
>
> We always print the results from the browser; presumably that
doesn't work
> for you - can you explain (again?) a little bit about why…
>
> Regards,
> Colin
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@s…]
> > Sent: 22 June 2004 03:28
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [sailwave] Printing Problems
> >
> >
> > Once a year I score a regatta and before hand I ask a similar
> > question. "How the heck do I get decent quality print from Sailwave?"
> > I set up the printer to landscape orientation. Set up Word to
> > Landscape and alter the margins to suit. I'm a Wordperfect user but
> > while it will remember settings it wont import Sailwave output nicely.
> > I can't use Frontpage for it is stupid about pagebreaks and can print
> > half lines of text on different pages. Forced to use Word. If I start
> > Word normally it will come up in landscape orientation. But when
> > importing Sailwave output it always starts in portrait. It drives me
> > nuts. I admit I know nothing about HTML editing. So what do all you
> > Sailwave users do to get decent looking output that sailors can see
> > from the back of the crowd? Clearly I'm missunderstanding some aspect
> > of the arcane ritual. Any help please? Thanks, Donald
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Hi Colin: Problem 1. Which browsers don't? I use a font adjusted to
make sure that all columns fit in the available width. Mr. Harvey
points out another problem in that Sailwave prints headers and footers
without any control over them. You remember a long time ago you and I
had a lot of correspondence about formatting output and the problems
of column headers and big fleets - you lose track of columns as you
view the last page of printout which could be several feet below the
top of the table! Sure I can insert column headers and format on the
fly but I don't have time for all of that. Six or so races X 6 or 7
fleets, committee boats wont radio in results after each race, so I
end up with a huge data entry problem. Because it is a youth regatta
we cant send competitors to the bar to wait as is usual! I don't need
to waste time playing with formatting during the event I want to set
it up beforehand. I want to click on Publish and lo and behold I get
formatted output with x number of competitors per paper page with a
column header preferably on each page. Do users not pin up results for
people on the deck of their Clubhouses for sailors to see? If they do
how do they do it professionally and quickly?
Do I sound a tad grumpy? Well, yes because I blew out a mainsail on
Sunday and I've just ordered a new one for the old is beyond
redemption. So I got my first ever DFL in a race. You bet I'm grumpy.
Bye, Donald
Hi Donald et al,
The original idea was to generate HTML and then get a web browser to
it. As I understand it, the problem with this is twofold:-
1. Some browsers split the table rows in half at the bottom of a page,
making that row spread across two pages vertically and hence is
unreadable.
I've never seen a browser do this - it always splits the row at a
sensible
place so the text itself is never split.
2. When using a large font (or a long series) the number of columns can
overflow a landscape sheet of paper horizontally - and browsers do not
handle this.Is that correct?
Or is 1. more do to with the fact that the header rows are only
available on
the first page?
Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com> From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@s…]
> Sent: 23 June 2004 13:08
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems
>
>
> Hi Colin: One chap already replied explaining what he does to print
> from Frontpage. It seemed to be immensely tedious deleting rows and so
> on. So,I really have two questions. One is that output from Sailwave
> seems to override the Word settings. I set up Word & the printer to
> Landscape and Word remembers this for ordinary documents. But output
> from Sailwave always comes up in Portrait orientation. Is it Sailwave?
> Secondly, the reason I use Word is that allows me to see page breaks.
> If I use a web editor printed output can have the top half of a row of
> characters on one page and the bottom half on another. OK, I could
> slice the pages up with a knife and join them together. The chap who
> kindly replied said that he temporarily deletes rows, prints,
> undeletes those rows and deletes what he printed etc. - more or less.
> This is unbelieveably crude and time consuming. I have about 8 fleets
> which run to three or four pages of printout for each fleet. I would
> be up half the night getting results published. Maybe it is something
> we have to expect when we use Microsoft products! Or, more likely, it
> is me not understanding how web editors work. But I can find no
> mechanism which will make what I see on the screen print on paper when
> using a web editor.
> This has been my rant for several years now. But I still have no idea
> how other users deal with this problem.
> A final problem. I have just set up Sailwave on a computer to go to
> the Club. For practice I put last year's results on a floppy and
> transferred them to a new folder on the new computer. Now, when I try
> to publish, Sailwave says that it can't find the floppy even though
> the data is in a folder on the c: drive. I have to hit continue. Is
> there something embedded doing this? Should I have just transferred
> the .blw files rather than all the files generated by Sailwave in that
> Regatta folder?
> Bye, Disturbed in Bedford
>
> > Hi Donald,
> >
> > Nice to hear from you again.
> >
> > We always print the results from the browser; presumably that
> doesn't work
> > for you - can you explain (again?) a little bit about why…
> >
> > Regards,
> > Colin
> >
> >
> > > From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@s…]
> > > Sent: 22 June 2004 03:28
> > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [sailwave] Printing Problems
> > >
> > >
> > > Once a year I score a regatta and before hand I ask a similar
> > > question. "How the heck do I get decent quality print from
Sailwave?"
> > > I set up the printer to landscape orientation. Set up Word to
> > > Landscape and alter the margins to suit. I'm a Wordperfect
user but
> > > while it will remember settings it wont import Sailwave output
nicely.
> > > I can't use Frontpage for it is stupid about pagebreaks and
can print
> > > half lines of text on different pages. Forced to use Word. If
I start
> > > Word normally it will come up in landscape orientation. But when
> > > importing Sailwave output it always starts in portrait. It
drives me
> > > nuts. I admit I know nothing about HTML editing. So what do
all you
> > > Sailwave users do to get decent looking output that sailors
can see
> > > from the back of the crowd? Clearly I'm missunderstanding some
aspect
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