How do you print results?
Eddie,
You print results after publishing to an application. The default
application is your default web browser, i.e. IE, Opera, Firefox,
Safari, Chrome or another web browser, and you then print from the
application in the normal way.
Publishing was a concious choice in the development of Sailwave as
it is easier to publish to an application that understands HTML.
Publishing results as HTML mean the author, Colin, of Sailwave can
concentrate on the functionality of Sailwave without having to deal
with the many different printers that are available.
Kind regards,
Huw
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On 11/12/2010 13:49, eddiemccarron wrote:
How do you print results?
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Do I need to tell sailwave which browser to use my computer does nothing when i try to publish until I press escape
Eddie McCarron
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On 11 Dec 2010, at 16:11, Huw Pearce huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk wrote:
Eddie,
You print results after publishing to an application. The defaultapplication is your default web browser, i.e. IE, Opera, Firefox,
Safari, Chrome or another web browser, and you then print from the
application in the normal way.Publishing was a concious choice in the development of Sailwave asit is easier to publish to an application that understands HTML.
Publishing results as HTML mean the author, Colin, of Sailwave can
concentrate on the functionality of Sailwave without having to deal
with the many different printers that are available.Kind regards, Huw On 11/12/2010 13:49, eddiemccarron wrote:
How do you print results?
avast! Antivirus : Inbound
message clean.
Virus Database (VPS):101211-0, 11/12/2010
Tested on: 11/12/2010 16:06:54
avast! - copyright © 1988-2010 AVAST
Software.
avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
Virus Database (VPS): 101211-0, 11/12/2010
Tested on: 11/12/2010 16:11:58
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Eddie,
No Sailwave uses the operating system set default browser.
If you have a web browser installed the default setting on the
second window of the publishing sequence should be set in the
destination box with the words ‘My default internet web browser’
showing.
Please can you let this forum know the output from Help menu item
Log book? This will help us know your computing environment also
please let us know what default web browser you are using. All this
information will be helpful to us trying to help you.
Kind regards,
Huw
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On 11/12/2010 18:04, Eddie McCarron wrote:
Do I need to tell sailwave which browser to use my
computer does nothing when i try to publish until I
press escape
Eddie McCarron
Sent from my iPhone
On 11 Dec 2010, at 16:11, Huw Pearce <huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk > > wrote:
Eddie,
You print results after publishing to anapplication. The default application is your default
web browser, i.e. IE, Opera, Firefox, Safari, Chrome
or another web browser, and you then print from the
application in the normal way.Publishing was a concious choice in the developmentof Sailwave as it is easier to publish to an
application that understands HTML. Publishing
results as HTML mean the author, Colin, of Sailwave
can concentrate on the functionality of Sailwave
without having to deal with the many different
printers that are available.Kind regards, Huw On 11/12/2010 13:49, eddiemccarron wrote:
How do you print results?
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Inbound message clean.
Virus Database (VPS): 101211-0, 11/12/2010
Tested on: 11/12/2010 16:06:54
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1988-2010 AVAST Software.
avast! Antivirus :
Outbound message clean.
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Tested on: 11/12/2010 16:11:58
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AVAST Software.
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message clean.
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Can you help?
I have been scoring a series which ends next week, 22 races 9 to count. Owing to the inclement weather we have lost 4 races so now want to make the series 18 races 7 to count. I have altered the formula to account for the changes but when I rescore the series it will not drop it from 9 to 7. How do I make the necessary changes?
Many thanks
Bob
What formula did you use? A formula s - 11 should work.
Or use a discard profile (rather long for 18 races)
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield, South Africa
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----- Original Message -----
From:
Bob
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 11:27 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
Can you help?
I have been scoring a series which ends next week, 22 races 9 to count. Owing to the inclement weather we have lost 4 races so now want to make the series 18 races 7 to count. I have altered the formula to account for the changes but when I rescore the series it will not drop it from 9 to 7. How do I make the necessary changes?
Many thanks
Bob
What does your discard profile look like? What does the Notice of Race say?
22 races with 9 to count is 13 discards, and 18 races with 7 to count is 11 discards. Depending upon how you wrote the Notice of Race, you should have a string of numbers with 11 in position 18 and 13 in position 22. Something like…
0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 7, 7, 7, 9, 9, 9, 11, 11, 11, 13, 13
0 discards after 1 race
0 discards after 2 races
1 discards after 3 races
1 discards after 4 races
1 discards after 5 races
3 discards after 6 races
etc.
The scoring guide has a section describing the different ways to setup a discard profile.
http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf
Mark Townsend
s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
(562) 433-4366 - Home
(562) 533-5909 - Cell
···
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: taylor643@btinternet.com
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:27:36 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
Can you help?
I have been scoring a series which ends next week, 22 races 9 to count. Owing to the inclement weather we have lost 4 races so now want to make the series 18 races 7 to count. I have altered the formula to account for the changes but when I rescore the series it will not drop it from 9 to 7. How do I make the necessary changes?
Many thanks
Bob
The original 9 from 22 said:
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13
I have changed this to show 9 from 18: 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
However nothing happens when I ask it to score the system is it because it has already scored the original and will not re-score the changes?
Regards
Bob
···
----- Original Message -----
From:
Mark Townsend
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
What does your discard profile look like? What does the Notice of Race say?
22 races with 9 to count is 13 discards, and 18 races with 7 to count is 11 discards. Depending upon how you wrote the Notice of Race, you should have a string of numbers with 11 in position 18 and 13 in position 22. Something like…
0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 7, 7, 7, 9, 9, 9, 11, 11, 11, 13, 13
0 discards after 1 race
0 discards after 2 races
1 discards after 3 races
1 discards after 4 races
1 discards after 5 races
3 discards after 6 races
etc.The scoring guide has a section describing the different ways to setup a discard profile.
http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf
Mark Townsend
s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
(562) 433-4366 - Home
(562) 533-5909 - Cell
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: taylor643@btinternet.com
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:27:36 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Rescoring a seriesCan you help?
I have been scoring a series which ends next week, 22 races 9 to count. Owing to the inclement weather we have lost 4 races so now want to make the series 18 races 7 to count. I have altered the formula to account for the changes but when I rescore the series it will not drop it from 9 to 7. How do I make the necessary changes?
Many thanks
Bob
The sequence is correct seven zeros then increment up by one.
Incidentally - you shoot yourselves in the foot writing SI’s like that! Its far easier to use a formula for the number of races sailed so rather than saying 9 of 22 you’d say something like 40% of all races sailed will count. Sailwave can deal with that kind of discard rule and then you don’t have to change the discards for races sailed.
HOWEVER, going back to the issue - are you clicking SCORE or RESCORE? They do different things. Rescore will use your old scoring model, you should use SCORE which perhaps confusingly will RE-SCORE the race using the new criteria… 
If thats not working suggest you’ll need to post the file!
C
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:20:55 -0000, “Bob” taylor643@btinternet.com wrote:
The original 9 from 22 said:
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7, 8, 9,10,11,12,13
I have changed this to show 9 from 18: 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
However nothing happens when I ask it to score the system is it because it has already scored the original and will not re-score the changes?
Regards
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Townsend
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
What does your discard profile look like? What does the Notice of Race say?
22 races with 9 to count is 13 discards, and 18 races with 7 to count is 11 discards. Depending upon how you wrote the Notice of Race, you should have a string of numbers with 11 in position 18 and 13 in position 22. Something like…
0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 7, 7, 7, 9, 9, 9, 11, 11, 11, 13, 13
0 discards after 1 race
0 discards after 2 races
1 discards after 3 races
1 discards after 4 races
1 discards after 5 races
3 discards after 6 races
etc.The scoring guide has a section describing the different ways to setup a discard profile.
http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf
Mark Townsend
s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
(562) 433-4366 - Home
(562) 533-5909 - Cell
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: taylor643@btinternet.com
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:27:36 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Rescoring a seriesCan you help?
I have been scoring a series which ends next week, 22 races 9 to count. Owing to the inclement weather we have lost 4 races so now want to make the series 18 races 7 to count. I have altered the formula to account for the changes but when I rescore the series it will not drop it from 9 to 7. How do I make the necessary changes?
Many thanks
Bob
Hello C
Yes I have tried Score series but to no avail.
I have attached the file if you can assist much appreciated. Thanks for the tip on the percentages I will give it as try for our winter series.
Regards
Bob
···
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
The sequence is correct seven zeros then increment up by one.
Incidentally - you shoot yourselves in the foot writing SI’s like that! Its far easier to use a formula for the number of races sailed so rather than saying 9 of 22 you’d say something like 40% of all races sailed will count. Sailwave can deal with that kind of discard rule and then you don’t have to change the discards for races sailed.
HOWEVER, going back to the issue - are you clicking SCORE or RESCORE? They do different things. Rescore will use your old scoring model, you should use SCORE which perhaps confusingly will RE-SCORE the race using the new criteria…
C
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:20:55 -0000, “Bob” taylor643@btinternet.com wrote:
The original 9 from 22 said:
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7, 8, 9,10,11,12,13
I have changed this to show 9 from 18: 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
However nothing happens when I ask it to score the system is it because it has already scored the original and will not re-score the changes?
Regards
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Townsend
Sent:
Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
What does your discard profile look like? What does the Notice of Race say? 22 races with 9 to count is 13 discards, and 18 races with 7 to count is 11 discards. Depending upon how you wrote the Notice of Race, you should have a string of numbers with 11 in position 18 and 13 in position 22. Something like... 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 7, 7, 7, 9, 9, 9, 11, 11, 11, 13, 130 discards after 1 race
0 discards after 2 races
1 discards after 3 races
1 discards after 4 races
1 discards after 5 races
3 discards after 6 races
etc.The scoring guide has a section describing the different ways to setup a discard profile.http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf
Mark Townsends_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
(562) 433-4366 - Home
(562) 533-5909 - Cell
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: taylor643@btinternet.com
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:27:36 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Rescoring a seriesCan you help?
I have been scoring a series which ends next week, 22 races 9 to count. Owing to the inclement weather we have lost 4 races so now want to make the series 18 races 7 to count. I have altered the formula to account for the changes but when I rescore the series it will not drop it from 9 to 7. How do I make the necessary changes?
Many thanks
Bob
For some reason, races 17 to 22 have been scored (with DNC’s), even though they havn’t been sailed yet.
If you delete races 19 to 22, which won’t be sailed and clear results from races 17 and 18, which havn’t been sailed yet,I think your series will score correctly.
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield, South Africa
···
----- Original Message -----
From:
Bob
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Rescoring a series [1 Attachment]
Hello C
Yes I have tried Score series but to no avail.
I have attached the file if you can assist much appreciated. Thanks for the tip on the percentages I will give it as try for our winter series.
Regards
Bob
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
The sequence is correct seven zeros then increment up by one.
Incidentally - you shoot yourselves in the foot writing SI's like that! Its far easier to use a formula for the number of races sailed so rather than saying 9 of 22 you'd say something like 40% of all races sailed will count. Sailwave can deal with that kind of discard rule and then you don't have to change the discards for races sailed.
HOWEVER, going back to the issue - are you clicking SCORE or RESCORE? They do different things. Rescore will use your old scoring model, you should use SCORE which perhaps confusingly will RE-SCORE the race using the new criteria.... ;-) If thats not working suggest you'll need to post the file!
C
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:20:55 -0000, "Bob" <taylor643@btinternet.com> wrote:
The original 9 from 22 said:
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7, 8, 9,10,11,12,13
I have changed this to show 9 from 18: 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
However nothing happens when I ask it to score the system is it because it has already scored the original and will not re-score the changes?
Regards
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Townsend
Sent:
Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
What does your discard profile look like? What does the Notice of Race say? 22 races with 9 to count is 13 discards, and 18 races with 7 to count is 11 discards. Depending upon how you wrote the Notice of Race, you should have a string of numbers with 11 in position 18 and 13 in position 22. Something like... 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 7, 7, 7, 9, 9, 9, 11, 11, 11, 13, 13 0 discards after 1 race0 discards after 2 races
1 discards after 3 races
1 discards after 4 races
1 discards after 5 races
3 discards after 6 races
etc.The scoring guide has a section describing the different ways to setup a discard profile.http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf
Mark Townsends_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
(562) 433-4366 - Home
(562) 533-5909 - Cell
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: taylor643@btinternet.com
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:27:36 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Rescoring a seriesCan you help?
I have been scoring a series which ends next week, 22 races 9 to count. Owing to the inclement weather we have lost 4 races so now want to make the series 18 races 7 to count. I have altered the formula to account for the changes but when I rescore the series it will not drop it from 9 to 7. How do I make the necessary changes?
Many thanks
Bob
Hello Malcolm
Thank you for the advice,it has worked a treat.
Easy when you know how.
Many thanks
Bob
···
----- Original Message -----
From:
Malcolm Osborne
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
For some reason, races 17 to 22 have been scored (with DNC’s), even though they havn’t been sailed yet.
If you delete races 19 to 22, which won’t be sailed and clear results from races 17 and 18, which havn’t been sailed yet,I think your series will score correctly.
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield, South Africa
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Rescoring a series [1 Attachment]
Hello C
Yes I have tried Score series but to no avail.
I have attached the file if you can assist much appreciated. Thanks for the tip on the percentages I will give it as try for our winter series.
Regards
Bob
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
The sequence is correct seven zeros then increment up by one.
Incidentally - you shoot yourselves in the foot writing SI's like that! Its far easier to use a formula for the number of races sailed so rather than saying 9 of 22 you'd say something like 40% of all races sailed will count. Sailwave can deal with that kind of discard rule and then you don't have to change the discards for races sailed.
HOWEVER, going back to the issue - are you clicking SCORE or RESCORE? They do different things. Rescore will use your old scoring model, you should use SCORE which perhaps confusingly will RE-SCORE the race using the new criteria.... ;-) If thats not working suggest you'll need to post the file!
C
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:20:55 -0000, "Bob" <taylor643@btinternet.com> wrote:
The original 9 from 22 said:
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7, 8, 9,10,11,12,13
I have changed this to show 9 from 18: 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
However nothing happens when I ask it to score the system is it because it has already scored the original and will not re-score the changes?
Regards
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From:
Mark Townsend
Sent:
Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
What does your discard profile look like? What does the Notice of Race say? 22 races with 9 to count is 13 discards, and 18 races with 7 to count is 11 discards. Depending upon how you wrote the Notice of Race, you should have a string of numbers with 11 in position 18 and 13 in position 22. Something like... 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 7, 7, 7, 9, 9, 9, 11, 11, 11, 13, 130 discards after 1 race
0 discards after 2 races
1 discards after 3 races
1 discards after 4 races
1 discards after 5 races
3 discards after 6 races
etc.The scoring guide has a section describing the different ways to setup a discard profile.http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf
Mark Townsend
s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
(562) 433-4366 - Home
(562) 533-5909 - Cell
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: taylor643@btinternet.com
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:27:36 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Rescoring a seriesCan you help?
I have been scoring a series which ends next week, 22 races 9 to count. Owing to the inclement weather we have lost 4 races so now want to make the series 18 races 7 to count. I have altered the formula to account for the changes but when I rescore the series it will not drop it from 9 to 7. How do I make the necessary changes?
Many thanks
Bob
Bob,
I switched on the sailwave property bar, it is the reader bar on the left of the screen that shows you the options that are being used to score the series. It shows a discard profile of 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11 and a qualifaction profile of 10. Sailwave is scoring the regatta in accordance with the options you have set. However, I don’t think that the qualification profile you are using is what you intended, as a high percentage of the competitors have not completed the 10 races required and are therefore being scored DNQ.
If you switch of the Qualifaction Profile it appears to score in the maner you are expecting.
- The series has a discard profile of 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11, which appears to be correct.
0 discards when upto 7 races sailed.
1 discards when 8 races sailed.
2 discards when 9 races sailed.
3 discards when 10 races sailed.
4 discards when 11 races sailed.
5 discards when 12 races sailed.
6 discards when 13 races sailed.
7 discards when 14 races sailed.
8 discards when 15 races sailed.
9 discards when 16 races sailed.
10 discards when 17 or more races sailed.
-
The User Interface for the “Qualification Profile” was not checked, so even though you are using a Qualification Profile, it was not being displayed in the scoring system window, but was showing on the property bar.
-
The series has a qualification profile of 10. You didn’t mention that a competitor needs to sail a minimum number of races to qualify for the series, so I belive this is not what you want. With a qualifcation profile of 10 a boat must compete in 10 or more races to qualify for the series. If they sail less than 10 races they are scored DNQ. I don’t think this is what you want.
Some series require that a boat compete in a minimum number of races to qualify for a series. A qualification profile, which is similar to a discard profile can be used to determine if a boat qualifies for the series, and for those that do not show a series score of DNQ.
The notice of race would specify the number of races required to qualify for the series, typically a percentage of the total number of races or an actual number. The discard profile would then be setup in Sailwave to specify these rules. The qualification profile option can be enabled through the “User Interface Option” by checking the check box next to the “Qualification Profile” option.
Mark Townsend
s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
(562) 433-4366 - Home
(562) 533-5909 - Cell
···
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: taylor643@btinternet.com
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:08:59 +0000
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Rescoring a series [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s) from Bob included below]
Hello C
Yes I have tried Score series but to no avail.
I have attached the file if you can assist much appreciated. Thanks for the tip on the percentages I will give it as try for our winter series.
Regards
Bob
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
The sequence is correct seven zeros then increment up by one.
Incidentally - you shoot yourselves in the foot writing SI’s like that! Its far easier to use a formula for the number of races sailed so rather than saying 9 of 22 you’d say something like 40% of all races sailed will count. Sailwave can deal with that kind of discard rule and then you don’t have to change the discards for races sailed.HOWEVER, going back to the issue - are you clicking SCORE or RESCORE? They do different things. Rescore will use your old scoring model, you should use SCORE which perhaps confusingly will RE-SCORE the race using the new criteria…
C
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:20:55 -0000, “Bob” taylor643@btinternet.com wrote:
The original 9 from 22 said:
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7, 8, 9,10,11,12,13
I have changed this to show 9 from 18: 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
However nothing happens when I ask it to score the system is it because it has already scored the original and will not re-score the changes?
Regards
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Townsend
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
What does your discard profile look like? What does the Notice of Race say?
22 races with 9 to count is 13 discards, and 18 races with 7 to count is 11 discards. Depending upon how you wrote the Notice of Race, you should have a string of numbers with 11 in position 18 and 13 in position 22. Something like…
0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 7, 7, 7, 9, 9, 9, 11, 11, 11, 13, 13
0 discards after 1 race
0 discards after 2 races
1 discards after 3 races
1 discards after 4 races
1 discards after 5 races
3 discards after 6 races
etc.The scoring guide has a section describing the different ways to setup a discard profile.
http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf
Mark Townsend
s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
(562) 433-4366 - Home
(562) 533-5909 - Cell
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: taylor643@btinternet.com
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:27:36 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Rescoring a seriesCan you help?
I have been scoring a series which ends next week, 22 races 9 to count. Owing to the inclement weather we have lost 4 races so now want to make the series 18 races 7 to count. I have altered the formula to account for the changes but when I rescore the series it will not drop it from 9 to 7. How do I make the necessary changes?
Many thanks
Bob
Bob, attached is what I believe to be the correct scores based upon your e-mails.
The thing I noticed was that a lot of competitors were being scored DNQ indicating that you had a “Qualification Profile”. In the Laser class and the Solo class only one boat had sailed 10 or more races, so there was only a first place.
You also had results for races 17 through 22, Sailwave will use the Discard Profile for a 22 race series not the sixteen races that your emails indicated have occurred. There should be no results for races 17 through 22.
I made the following changes to the scoring file you sent.
- Changed the “Font Size” to 8. This enables you to see more stuff on the screen.
- Displayed the property bar by pressing the “Hide Property Bar” in the view menu. There is also a button that hides and unhides the property bar. I wanted to see the “Qualifcation Profile” as the majority of the competitors were being scored DNQ.
- The property reader area showed the “Discard Profile”, but not the “Qualification Profile”. This indicated that the “Qualification Profile” was not checked in the “User Interface” window.
- Went to the “User Interface” window and checked “Qualification Profile” so I could see the settings. The “Qualifcation Profile” was now displayed in the “Property Bar” and had a value of 10. A boat must complete 10 races to qualify to be scored in hte series.
- Went to the “Series Scoring” tab in the “Scoring System” window and set the “Qualifcation Profile” to 0, from 10. Every boat that has sailed at least one race will now qualify for the series.
- Hit “Score” to score the series using the new discard profile.
- All competitors are being scored DNC in Races 17 through 22. Sailwave assumes that these races occurred as you have entered scores for them. Sailwave uses the discard profile for a 22 race series, which is set to 11 discards.
- Cleared the results races 17 through 22. The races are still there but have no results.
- Hit “Score” to score the series for the 16 completed races.
It now looks correct. Except…
The scoring codes show that a new code has been added “rtd”. If you check the Appendix A rule A11 of the rule book you will find that there is no such code, it was delete about three rule books ago. If a competitor retires before they finish they are scored Did Not Finish (DNF) and if the retire after finishing they are scored Retired After Finishing (RAF). As the boat have no finish times I assume that they are DNF rather than RAF.
- I changed Mirror Single Handed 47248 Alex Cavangha in Race 9 from a “rtd” to “DNF”.
- I changed Lark 2367 Glen Wilbraham in Race 13 from a “rtd” to “DNF”.
- I changed Lark 2367 Glen Wilbraham in Race 15 from a “rtd” to “DNF”.
- Deleted scoring code “rtd”
You appear to be using rule A9 long series scoring, alhtough you do state as such on your website.
Mark Townsend
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From: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 08:04:48 -0800
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Rescoring a series - Qualification and Discard Profile
Bob,
I switched on the sailwave property bar, it is the reader bar on the left of the screen that shows you the options that are being used to score the series. It shows a discard profile of 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11 and a qualifaction profile of 10. Sailwave is scoring the regatta in accordance with the options you have set. However, I don’t think that the qualification profile you are using is what you intended, as a high percentage of the competitors have not completed the 10 races required and are therefore being scored DNQ.
If you switch of the Qualifaction Profile it appears to score in the maner you are expecting.
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The series has a discard profile of 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11, which appears to be correct.
0 discards when upto 7 races sailed.
1 discards when 8 races sailed.
2 discards when 9 races sailed.
3 discards when 10 races sailed.
4 discards when 11 races sailed.
5 discards when 12 races sailed.
6 discards when 13 races sailed.
7 discards when 14 races sailed.
8 discards when 15 races sailed.
9 discards when 16 races sailed.
10 discards when 17 or more races sailed. -
The User Interface for the “Qualification Profile” was not checked, so even though you are using a Qualification Profile, it was not being displayed in the scoring system window, but was showing on the property bar.
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The series has a qualification profile of 10. You didn’t mention that a competitor needs to sail a minimum number of races to qualify for the series, so I belive this is not what you want. With a qualifcation profile of 10 a boat must compete in 10 or more races to qualify for the series. If they sail less than 10 races they are scored DNQ. I don’t think this is what you want.
Some series require that a boat compete in a minimum number of races to qualify for a series. A qualification profile, which is similar to a discard profile can be used to determine if a boat qualifies for the series, and for those that do not show a series score of DNQ.
The notice of race would specify the number of races required to qualify for the series, typically a percentage of the total number of races or an actual number. The discard profile would then be setup in Sailwave to specify these rules. The qualification profile option can be enabled through the “User Interface Option” by checking the check box next to the “Qualification Profile” option.
Mark Townsend
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To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: taylor643@btinternet.com
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:08:59 +0000
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Rescoring a series [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s) from Bob included below]
Hello C
Yes I have tried Score series but to no avail.
I have attached the file if you can assist much appreciated. Thanks for the tip on the percentages I will give it as try for our winter series.
Regards
Bob
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
The sequence is correct seven zeros then increment up by one.
Incidentally - you shoot yourselves in the foot writing SI’s like that! Its far easier to use a formula for the number of races sailed so rather than saying 9 of 22 you’d say something like 40% of all races sailed will count. Sailwave can deal with that kind of discard rule and then you don’t have to change the discards for races sailed.HOWEVER, going back to the issue - are you clicking SCORE or RESCORE? They do different things. Rescore will use your old scoring model, you should use SCORE which perhaps confusingly will RE-SCORE the race using the new criteria…
C
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:20:55 -0000, “Bob” taylor643@btinternet.com wrote:
The original 9 from 22 said:
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7, 8, 9,10,11,12,13
I have changed this to show 9 from 18: 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
However nothing happens when I ask it to score the system is it because it has already scored the original and will not re-score the changes?
Regards
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Townsend
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Rescoring a series
What does your discard profile look like? What does the Notice of Race say?
22 races with 9 to count is 13 discards, and 18 races with 7 to count is 11 discards. Depending upon how you wrote the Notice of Race, you should have a string of numbers with 11 in position 18 and 13 in position 22. Something like…
0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 7, 7, 7, 9, 9, 9, 11, 11, 11, 13, 13
0 discards after 1 race
0 discards after 2 races
1 discards after 3 races
1 discards after 4 races
1 discards after 5 races
3 discards after 6 races
etc.The scoring guide has a section describing the different ways to setup a discard profile.
http://www.abyc.org/upload/Sailwave_ABYC_User_Guide.pdf
Mark Townsend
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To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: taylor643@btinternet.com
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:27:36 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Rescoring a seriesCan you help?
I have been scoring a series which ends next week, 22 races 9 to count. Owing to the inclement weather we have lost 4 races so now want to make the series 18 races 7 to count. I have altered the formula to account for the changes but when I rescore the series it will not drop it from 9 to 7. How do I make the necessary changes?
Many thanks
Bob