Hi
I have put in the danish locale file. Afterwords the menu's at the left top are to narrow for the text. What can I do
Niels
Hi Niels,
I tried the Danish Locale and below is a screen shot using Version 2.8.4
Which looks OK to me could you send a screen shot that demonstrates you issue
Jon
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On 11 December 2012 17:03, nielsbaekdal@ymail.com niels@baekdal.com wrote:
Hi
I have put in the danish locale file. Afterwords the menu’s at the left top are to narrow for the text. What can I doNiels
–
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”
Hi Jon
Thank you for a fast responce. What seems as “red” looks on my screan as “rec” and should be “rediger” and “opsæ” should be “opsætning”.
Regards Niels
···
----- Original Message -----
From:
Jon Eskdale
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Problem with menu’s after defining locales
Hi Niels,
I tried the Danish Locale and below is a screen shot using Version 2.8.4
Which looks OK to me could you send a screen shot that demonstrates you issue
Jon
On 11 December 2012 17:03, nielsbaekdal@ymail.com niels@baekdal.com wrote:
Hi
I have put in the danish locale file. Afterwords the menu’s at the left top are to narrow for the text. What can I doNiels
–
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”
Hi again
here is the screendump as a file.
Niels
···
----- Original Message -----
From:
Jon Eskdale
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Problem with menu’s after defining locales
Hi Niels,
I tried the Danish Locale and below is a screen shot using Version 2.8.4
Which looks OK to me could you send a screen shot that demonstrates you issue
Jon
On 11 December 2012 17:03, nielsbaekdal@ymail.com niels@baekdal.com wrote:
Hi
I have put in the danish locale file. Afterwords the menu’s at the left top are to narrow for the text. What can I doNiels
–
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”
I have the same problem with the German locale on my Windows 7 Netbook (Resolution of 1024 to 600). If the cursor is over a menu item, this will be displayed in full. Without locale the english menu texts look ok on the netbook. This is no problem of Sailwave 2.8.4. I observe this behaviour since I use Sailwave on my Win 7 Netbook - now for more than two years.
On my PCs with Windows XP the menu will be displayed without failure using the german locale. I think it depends on the Window version or the different Hardware. Till now I didn't test this on other Windows 7 or any Windows 8 units.
Cheers
Christof
Niels
Christof seems to be correct here it is a Windows 7 thing. I just tried it in XP and it was fine.
So I’m not sure what the answer is. On the menu generator program I have 2 options for the width of the menu item
Default which is what it is now where it adjusts to the size (but for some reason windows 7 seems to use the size of English text not the Locale) or
Fixed Width where I specify the width of each Menu item individually
Anyone any ideas?
Jon
···
On 11 December 2012 22:38, paulesgps paulesgps@yahoo.com wrote:
I have the same problem with the German locale on my Windows 7 Netbook (Resolution of 1024 to 600). If the cursor is over a menu item, this will be displayed in full. Without locale the english menu texts look ok on the netbook. This is no problem of Sailwave 2.8.4. I observe this behaviour since I use Sailwave on my Win 7 Netbook - now for more than two years.
On my PCs with Windows XP the menu will be displayed without failure using the german locale. I think it depends on the Window version or the different Hardware. Till now I didn’t test this on other Windows 7 or any Windows 8 units.
Cheers
Christof
–
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”
Hi Jon,
the behavior is the same on Win 8 (64 bit) as on Win 7, if I use the german locale. Several main menu texts are cut. But I think it is not necessary to change this. I use the mouse and if the coursor is over one of those shortend texts, this text extends to its full length.
Otherwise with fixed lengths of the menu buttons I'm shure there would be a lenguage, where some menu entries will not fit - and will not be extended when passed by the mouse ...
Cheers
Christof
···
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@...> wrote:
Niels
Christof seems to be correct here it is a Windows 7 thing. I just tried it
in XP and it was fine.So I'm not sure what the answer is. On the menu generator program I have 2
options for the width of the menu item
Default which is what it is now where it adjusts to the size (but for some
reason windows 7 seems to use the size of English text not the Locale) or
Fixed Width where I specify the width of each Menu item individuallyAnyone any ideas?
Jon
On 11 December 2012 22:38, paulesgps <paulesgps@...> wrote:
> **
>
>
> I have the same problem with the German locale on my Windows 7 Netbook
> (Resolution of 1024 to 600). If the cursor is over a menu item, this will
> be displayed in full. Without locale the english menu texts look ok on the
> netbook. This is no problem of Sailwave 2.8.4. I observe this behaviour
> since I use Sailwave on my Win 7 Netbook - now for more than two years.
> On my PCs with Windows XP the menu will be displayed without failure using
> the german locale. I think it depends on the Window version or the
> different Hardware. Till now I didn't test this on other Windows 7 or any
> Windows 8 units.
>
> Cheers
>
> Christof
>
>
>--
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype "eskdale"
Thanks Christof.
I was wondering how it would behave on windows 8 and you saved me the trouble of trying it. It is really strange since it works fine on XP. I tried calling the Windows API “DrawMenuBar” which is what Microsoft say you should call if the menu changes. I thought it might force it to have a rethink -It returned success but the menu bar was still the same. I could make all the menus have a fixed width so that they are equally spaced which is a compromise but don’t think it looks so good. Plus for some reason it makes the backgound white so would have to try and paint the background the correct colour as well
Jon
···
On 12 December 2012 18:16, paulesgps paulesgps@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Jon,
the behavior is the same on Win 8 (64 bit) as on Win 7, if I use the german locale. Several main menu texts are cut. But I think it is not necessary to change this. I use the mouse and if the coursor is over one of those shortend texts, this text extends to its full length.
Otherwise with fixed lengths of the menu buttons I’m shure there would be a lenguage, where some menu entries will not fit - and will not be extended when passed by the mouse …
Cheers
Christof
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@…> wrote:
Niels
Christof seems to be correct here it is a Windows 7 thing. I just tried it
in XP and it was fine.
So I’m not sure what the answer is. On the menu generator program I have 2
options for the width of the menu item
Default which is what it is now where it adjusts to the size (but for some
reason windows 7 seems to use the size of English text not the Locale) or
Fixed Width where I specify the width of each Menu item individually
Anyone any ideas?
Jon
On 11 December 2012 22:38, paulesgps <paulesgps@…> wrote:
**
I have the same problem with the German locale on my Windows 7 Netbook
(Resolution of 1024 to 600). If the cursor is over a menu item, this will
be displayed in full. Without locale the english menu texts look ok on the
netbook. This is no problem of Sailwave 2.8.4. I observe this behaviour
since I use Sailwave on my Win 7 Netbook - now for more than two years.
On my PCs with Windows XP the menu will be displayed without failure using
the german locale. I think it depends on the Window version or the
different Hardware. Till now I didn’t test this on other Windows 7 or any
Windows 8 units.
Cheers
Christof
–
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”
–
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”
OK - I've made the menu bar use fixed spacing so this should be OK for Windows 7 and Windows 8 using Different Languages. There is quite a bit of space between menu items and they are all the same width. Background colour is controlled by the windows menu colour as defined in the control panel for menu so you can change this if you want. This is in Version 2.8.5 which I'm just releasing as a full version
Jon
···
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@...> wrote:
Thanks Christof.
I was wondering how it would behave on windows 8 and you saved me the
trouble of trying it. It is really strange since it works fine on XP. I
tried calling the Windows API "DrawMenuBar" which is what Microsoft say you
should call if the menu changes. I thought it might force it to have a
rethink -It returned success but the menu bar was still the same. I could
make all the menus have a fixed width so that they are equally spaced which
is a compromise but don't think it looks so good. Plus for some reason it
makes the backgound white so would have to try and paint the background the
correct colour as wellJon
On 12 December 2012 18:16, paulesgps <paulesgps@...> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Hi Jon,
>
> the behavior is the same on Win 8 (64 bit) as on Win 7, if I use the
> german locale. Several main menu texts are cut. But I think it is not
> necessary to change this. I use the mouse and if the coursor is over one of
> those shortend texts, this text extends to its full length.
> Otherwise with fixed lengths of the menu buttons I'm shure there would be
> a lenguage, where some menu entries will not fit - and will not be extended
> when passed by the mouse ...
>
> Cheers
> Christof
>
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@> wrote:
> >
> > Niels
> >
> > Christof seems to be correct here it is a Windows 7 thing. I just tried
> it
> > in XP and it was fine.
> >
> > So I'm not sure what the answer is. On the menu generator program I have
> 2
> > options for the width of the menu item
> > Default which is what it is now where it adjusts to the size (but for
> some
> > reason windows 7 seems to use the size of English text not the Locale) or
> > Fixed Width where I specify the width of each Menu item individually
> >
> > Anyone any ideas?
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > On 11 December 2012 22:38, paulesgps <paulesgps@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > I have the same problem with the German locale on my Windows 7 Netbook
> > > (Resolution of 1024 to 600). If the cursor is over a menu item, this
> will
> > > be displayed in full. Without locale the english menu texts look ok on
> the
> > > netbook. This is no problem of Sailwave 2.8.4. I observe this behaviour
> > > since I use Sailwave on my Win 7 Netbook - now for more than two years.
> > > On my PCs with Windows XP the menu will be displayed without failure
> using
> > > the german locale. I think it depends on the Window version or the
> > > different Hardware. Till now I didn't test this on other Windows 7 or
> any
> > > Windows 8 units.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Christof
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jon Eskdale
> > 07976 709777
> > Skype "eskdale"
> >
>
>
>--
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype "eskdale"
Hi Jon and Christof
Thank you for your responce. I have tryed Win Xp and it looks perfect. Christof is right it is just a cosmetic problem
Another cosmetic problem after using the danish locales is, that I get the window “select effects” at start up of the sailwave program. I just clik OK, and everything is OK. Is there a simple solution? See the attach’ed file.
Niels
···
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:16 PM, paulesgps paulesgps@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Jon,
the behavior is the same on Win 8 (64 bit) as on Win 7, if I use the german locale. Several main menu texts are cut. But I think it is not necessary to change this. I use the mouse and if the coursor is over one of those shortend texts, this text extends to its full length.
Otherwise with fixed lengths of the menu buttons I’m shure there would be a lenguage, where some menu entries will not fit - and will not be extended when passed by the mouse …Cheers
Christof
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@…> wrote:
Niels
Christof seems to be correct here it is a Windows 7 thing. I just tried it
in XP and it was fine.
So I’m not sure what the answer is. On the menu generator program I have 2
options for the width of the menu item
Default which is what it is now where it adjusts to the size (but for somereason windows 7 seems to use the size of English text not the Locale) or
Fixed Width where I specify the width of each Menu item individuallyAnyone any ideas?
Jon
On 11 December 2012 22:38, paulesgps <paulesgps@…> wrote:
**
I have the same problem with the German locale on my Windows 7 Netbook
(Resolution of 1024 to 600). If the cursor is over a menu item, this will
be displayed in full. Without locale the english menu texts look ok on thenetbook. This is no problem of Sailwave 2.8.4. I observe this behaviour
since I use Sailwave on my Win 7 Netbook - now for more than two years.
On my PCs with Windows XP the menu will be displayed without failure usingthe german locale. I think it depends on the Window version or the
different Hardware. Till now I didn’t test this on other Windows 7 or any
Windows 8 units.Cheers
Christof
–
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”
Hi Niels,
That select effects was a bug which I fixed a while ago - if you use the latest version it should not happen.
Also the latest version now has fixed spacing for the Menu so it should be ok in Windows 7 an Windows 8 with the other Languages as well.
Jon
···
On 13 December 2012 09:23, Niels Bækdal niels@baekdal.com wrote:
Hi Jon and Christof
Thank you for your responce. I have tryed Win Xp and it looks perfect. Christof is right it is just a cosmetic problem
Another cosmetic problem after using the danish locales is, that I get the window “select effects” at start up of the sailwave program. I just clik OK, and everything is OK. Is there a simple solution? See the attach’ed file.
Niels
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:16 PM, paulesgps paulesgps@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Jon,
the behavior is the same on Win 8 (64 bit) as on Win 7, if I use the german locale. Several main menu texts are cut. But I think it is not necessary to change this. I use the mouse and if the coursor is over one of those shortend texts, this text extends to its full length.
Otherwise with fixed lengths of the menu buttons I’m shure there would be a lenguage, where some menu entries will not fit - and will not be extended when passed by the mouse …
Cheers
Christof
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@…> wrote:
Niels
Christof seems to be correct here it is a Windows 7 thing. I just tried it
in XP and it was fine.
So I’m not sure what the answer is. On the menu generator program I have 2
options for the width of the menu item
Default which is what it is now where it adjusts to the size (but for somereason windows 7 seems to use the size of English text not the Locale) or
Fixed Width where I specify the width of each Menu item individuallyAnyone any ideas?
Jon
On 11 December 2012 22:38, paulesgps <paulesgps@…> wrote:
**
I have the same problem with the German locale on my Windows 7 Netbook
(Resolution of 1024 to 600). If the cursor is over a menu item, this will
be displayed in full. Without locale the english menu texts look ok on thenetbook. This is no problem of Sailwave 2.8.4. I observe this behaviour
since I use Sailwave on my Win 7 Netbook - now for more than two years.
On my PCs with Windows XP the menu will be displayed without failure usingthe german locale. I think it depends on the Window version or the
different Hardware. Till now I didn’t test this on other Windows 7 or any
Windows 8 units.Cheers
Christof
–
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777Skype “eskdale”
–
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”
Hi Jon,
I don't like the new menu design. Using my German locale the width is still to small for the words "Veröffentlichen" (Publish) and "Einstellungen" (Settings) and it looks very odd without background colour and without separation of the menu fields. If I change the the windows menu color, this change affects other programs and changes the background colour of the drop-down menus too. I lived very good with the "old" appearence, even if the menu entries were cut in Win 7 and Win 8. I'll stay on 2.8.4!
A few days ago I have sent an updated German locale (for beta 2.8.3 - no change nessesary for the published version 2.8.5) to the mail adress at the bottom of the download page of locales. Did You receive it?
Cheers
Christof
···
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "JON" <jon@...> wrote:
OK - I've made the menu bar use fixed spacing so this should be OK for Windows 7 and Windows 8 using Different Languages. There is quite a bit of space between menu items and they are all the same width. Background colour is controlled by the windows menu colour as defined in the control panel for menu so you can change this if you want. This is in Version 2.8.5 which I'm just releasing as a full version
Jon
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@> wrote:
>
> Thanks Christof.
> I was wondering how it would behave on windows 8 and you saved me the
> trouble of trying it. It is really strange since it works fine on XP. I
> tried calling the Windows API "DrawMenuBar" which is what Microsoft say you
> should call if the menu changes. I thought it might force it to have a
> rethink -It returned success but the menu bar was still the same. I could
> make all the menus have a fixed width so that they are equally spaced which
> is a compromise but don't think it looks so good. Plus for some reason it
> makes the backgound white so would have to try and paint the background the
> correct colour as well
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> On 12 December 2012 18:16, paulesgps <paulesgps@> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi Jon,
> >
> > the behavior is the same on Win 8 (64 bit) as on Win 7, if I use the
> > german locale. Several main menu texts are cut. But I think it is not
> > necessary to change this. I use the mouse and if the coursor is over one of
> > those shortend texts, this text extends to its full length.
> > Otherwise with fixed lengths of the menu buttons I'm shure there would be
> > a lenguage, where some menu entries will not fit - and will not be extended
> > when passed by the mouse ...
> >
> > Cheers
> > Christof
> >
> >
> > --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Niels
> > >
> > > Christof seems to be correct here it is a Windows 7 thing. I just tried
> > it
> > > in XP and it was fine.
> > >
> > > So I'm not sure what the answer is. On the menu generator program I have
> > 2
> > > options for the width of the menu item
> > > Default which is what it is now where it adjusts to the size (but for
> > some
> > > reason windows 7 seems to use the size of English text not the Locale) or
> > > Fixed Width where I specify the width of each Menu item individually
> > >
> > > Anyone any ideas?
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11 December 2012 22:38, paulesgps <paulesgps@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have the same problem with the German locale on my Windows 7 Netbook
> > > > (Resolution of 1024 to 600). If the cursor is over a menu item, this
> > will
> > > > be displayed in full. Without locale the english menu texts look ok on
> > the
> > > > netbook. This is no problem of Sailwave 2.8.4. I observe this behaviour
> > > > since I use Sailwave on my Win 7 Netbook - now for more than two years.
> > > > On my PCs with Windows XP the menu will be displayed without failure
> > using
> > > > the german locale. I think it depends on the Window version or the
> > > > different Hardware. Till now I didn't test this on other Windows 7 or
> > any
> > > > Windows 8 units.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Christof
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jon Eskdale
> > > 07976 709777
> > > Skype "eskdale"
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jon Eskdale
> 07976 709777
> Skype "eskdale"
>
Hi Christof,
OK Don’t know what else I can do with the menus. I could make the spacing a bit wider but that doesn’t help with the colours. With my colours in the control panel for the menu set the colours were the same as previous in both XP and Win 7.
Sorry I hadn’t received your locales but have just found the in the spam box.
Thanks for those i’ll put them up tomorrow
Jon
···
Sent from my iPad
On 13 Dec 2012, at 22:32, “paulesgps” paulesgps@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Jon,
I don’t like the new menu design. Using my German locale the width is still to small for the words “Veröffentlichen” (Publish) and “Einstellungen” (Settings) and it looks very odd without background colour and without separation of the menu fields. If I change the the windows menu color, this change affects other programs and changes the background colour of the drop-down menus too. I lived very good with the “old” appearence, even if the menu entries were cut in Win 7 and Win 8. I’ll stay on 2.8.4!
A few days ago I have sent an updated German locale (for beta 2.8.3 - no change nessesary for the published version 2.8.5) to the mail adress at the bottom of the download page of locales. Did You receive it?Cheers
Christof
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “JON” <jon@…> wrote:
OK - I’ve made the menu bar use fixed spacing so this should be OK for Windows 7 and Windows 8 using Different Languages. There is quite a bit of space between menu items and they are all the same width. Background colour is controlled by the windows menu colour as defined in the control panel for menu so you can change this if you want. This is in Version 2.8.5 which I’m just releasing as a full version
Jon
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@> wrote:
Thanks Christof.
I was wondering how it would behave on windows 8 and you saved me the
trouble of trying it. It is really strange since it works fine on XP. I
tried calling the Windows API “DrawMenuBar” which is what Microsoft say you
should call if the menu changes. I thought it might force it to have a
rethink -It returned success but the menu bar was still the same. I could
make all the menus have a fixed width so that they are equally spaced which
is a compromise but don’t think it looks so good. Plus for some reason it
makes the backgound white so would have to try and paint the background the
correct colour as wellJon
On 12 December 2012 18:16, paulesgps <paulesgps@> wrote:
**
Hi Jon,
the behavior is the same on Win 8 (64 bit) as on Win 7, if I use the
german locale. Several main menu texts are cut. But I think it is not
necessary to change this. I use the mouse and if the coursor is over one of
those shortend texts, this text extends to its full length.
Otherwise with fixed lengths of the menu buttons I’m shure there would be
a lenguage, where some menu entries will not fit - and will not be extended
when passed by the mouse …Cheers
Christof— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@> wrote:
Niels
Christof seems to be correct here it is a Windows 7 thing. I just tried
it
in XP and it was fine.So I’m not sure what the answer is. On the menu generator program I have
2
options for the width of the menu item
Default which is what it is now where it adjusts to the size (but for
some
reason windows 7 seems to use the size of English text not the Locale) or
Fixed Width where I specify the width of each Menu item individuallyAnyone any ideas?
Jon
On 11 December 2012 22:38, paulesgps <paulesgps@> wrote:
**
I have the same problem with the German locale on my Windows 7 Netbook
(Resolution of 1024 to 600). If the cursor is over a menu item, this
willbe displayed in full. Without locale the english menu texts look ok on
thenetbook. This is no problem of Sailwave 2.8.4. I observe this behaviour
since I use Sailwave on my Win 7 Netbook - now for more than two years.
On my PCs with Windows XP the menu will be displayed without failure
usingthe german locale. I think it depends on the Window version or the
different Hardware. Till now I didn’t test this on other Windows 7 or
anyWindows 8 units.
Cheers
Christof
–
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”–
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777
Skype “eskdale”
Hi Jon,
thanks for Your fast response (as always!).
I propose to leave it as it was. Over the last two years I got accustomed to the appearance on my Windows 7 unit. As Niels wrote: it is (was) just a cosmetic problem. You might argue that with the fixed menu fields it is also only an cosmetic problem, but Menu without colour or coloured menu background with drop-down menu backgrounds in the same colour are a serious cosmetic problem for me.
But let's see what other Sailwave users think and wish.
Cheers
Christof
···
Hi Christof,
OK Don't know what else I can do with the menus. I could make the > spacing a bit wider but that doesn't help with the colours. With > my <colours in the control panel for the menu set the colours were > the same as previous in both XP and Win 7.
Sorry I hadn't received your locales but have just found the in the > spam box.
Thanks for those i'll put them up tomorrow
Jon