When publishing my results the styles click down column(ex "red hat" etc) is blank. I have used version 2-5-1 W7 since it was first out and was working perfect till today. Any thoughts?
···
the style list
will not be shown if the corresponding template does not include
a style element in its definition - e.g. the blog one… is it
that…?
On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR wrote:
Cheers,
Colin J
When publishing my results the styles click down
column(ex “red hat” etc) is blank. I have used version
2-5-1 W7 since it was first out and was working perfect
till today. Any thoughts?
No virus
found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5253 - Release Date:
09/06/12
there are no templates that I can find. check out attached file
Regards,
John Tiano
Commodore SLRMBC
772 708 0893
···
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanashed
the style list will not be shown if the corresponding template does not include a style element in its definition - e.g. the blog one… is it that…?
Cheers,
Colin J
http://sailwave.com
On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR wrote:
When publishing my results the styles click down column(ex “red hat” etc) is blank. I have used version 2-5-1 W7 since it was first out and was working perfect till today. Any thoughts?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5253 - Release Date: 09/06/12
Did You change the folder destinations in "Global Options"? If You have no folder entries for templates and styles in the folders tab of global options, your templetes and styles should be in the subfolders Templates and Styles of the directory, where sailwave is installed.
If You entered folders for styles and templates in the folders tab of global options, You have to copy those templates and styles, You want to use, to the corresponding folder ...
On my (Win 7) PC, the SW program and associated files are in C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\
With your data, opened with SW, then in Global options, set templates to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Templates\ and styles to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Styles\
Then I could publish your results with the full range of style options available.
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
···
On 2012/09/08 13:54, John Tiano wrote:
there are no templates that I can find. check out attached file
Regards,
John Tiano
Commodore SLRMBC
772 708 0893
*From:*sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Jenkins
*Sent:* Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 AM
*To:* sailwave@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanashedthe style list will not be shown if the corresponding template does not include a style element in its definition - e.g. the blog one... is it that...?
Cheers,
Colin J
ht tp://sailwave.com <http://sailwave.com>On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR wrote:
When publishing my results the styles click down column(ex "red
hat" etc) is blank. I have used version 2-5-1 W7 since it was
first out and was working perfect till today. Any thoughts?No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5253 - Release Date:
09/06/12
···
what does the log
say (help menu)
On 08/09/2012 12:54, John Tiano wrote:
Cheers,
Colin J
there are
no templates that I can find. check out attached file
Regards,
John
Tiano
Commodore
SLRMBC
772
708 0893
From:
[] Colin Jenkins
Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 AM
Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list
has vanashed
the style list will not
be shown if the corresponding template does
not include a style element in its definition
- e.g. the blog one… is it that…?
Cheers,
Colin J
http://sailwave.com
On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR
wrote:
When publishing my results the styles click
down column(ex “red hat” etc) is blank. I have
used version 2-5-1 W7 since it was first out
and was working perfect till today. Any
thoughts?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5253
- Release Date: 09/06/12
No virus
found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5254 - Release Date:
09/07/12
sailwave@yahoogroups.commailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com** On Behalf Of**
Sent:
**To:**sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
Thanks Malcolm Osborne your suggestions worked
JT
···
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:44 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanished
what does the log say (help menu)
Cheers,
Colin J
http://sailwave.com
On 08/09/2012 12:54, John Tiano wrote:
there are no templates that I can find. check out attached file
Regards,
John Tiano
Commodore SLRMBC
772 708 0893
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanashed
the style list will not be shown if the corresponding template does not include a style element in its definition - e.g. the blog one… is it that…?
Cheers,
Colin J
http://sailwave.com
On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR wrote:
When publishing my results the styles click down column(ex “red hat” etc) is blank. I have used version 2-5-1 W7 since it was first out and was working perfect till today. Any thoughts?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5253 - Release Date: 09/06/12
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5254 - Release Date: 09/07/12
···
malcolm, are you
saying with thoe fields blank it didn’t work…? i.e. not
picking up the default locations automatically…
On 08/09/2012 18:09, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
Cheers,
Colin J
No virus
found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5254 - Release Date:
09/07/12
On my (Win 7) PC, the SW
program and associated files are in C:\Program Files
(x86)\Sailwave\
With your data, opened with SW, then in Global options,
set templates to C:\Program Files
(x86)\Sailwave\Templates\ and styles to C:\Program Files
(x86)\Sailwave\Styles\
Then I could publish your results with the full range of
style options available.
On 2012/09/08 13:54, John Tiano wrote:
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
there
are no templates that I can find. check out
attached file
Regards,
John
Tiano
Commodore
SLRMBC
772
708 0893
From:
[]
Colin Jenkins
Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29
AM
Re: [sailwave] Publish styles
list has vanashed
the style list will
not be shown if the corresponding template
does not include a style element in its
definition - e.g. the blog one… is it
that…?
Cheers,
Colin J
ht
tp://sailwave.com
On 07/09/2012 13:08,
JTIANOSR wrote:
When publishing my results the styles
click down column(ex “red hat” etc) is
blank. I have used version 2-5-1 W7 since
it was first out and was working perfect
till today. Any thoughts?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database:
2437/5253 - Release Date: 09/06/12
sailwave@yahoogroups.commailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.comOn Behalf Of
Sent:
**To:**sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
Colin,
Didn't seem to.
However, on my other desktop PC ( Ubuntu) , those fields are blank and SW works fine. I have a laptop (Win7), with those fields blank, no problem.
The SW fields on this PC are now populated with the C:\xx\Sailwave settings, but probably only since testing John's file.
Strange!
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
···
On 2012/09/11 21:05, Colin Jenkins wrote:
malcolm, are you saying with thoe fields blank it didn't work...? i.e. not picking up the default locations automatically...
Cheers,
Colin J
http://sailwave.com
On 08/09/2012 18:09, Malcolm Osborne wrote:On my (Win 7) PC, the SW program and associated files are in C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\
With your data, opened with SW, then in Global options, set templates to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Templates\ and styles to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Styles\
Then I could publish your results with the full range of style options available.
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
On 2012/09/08 13:54, John Tiano wrote:there are no templates that I can find. check out attached file
Regards,
John Tiano
Commodore SLRMBC
772 708 0893
*From:*sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Jenkins
*Sent:* Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 AM
*To:* sailwave@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanashedthe style list will not be shown if the corresponding template does not include a style element in its definition - e.g. the blog one... is it that...?
Cheers,
Colin J
ht tp://sailwave.com <http://sailwave.com>On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR wrote:
When publishing my results the styles click down column(ex "red
hat" etc) is blank. I have used version 2-5-1 W7 since it was
first out and was working perfect till today. Any thoughts?No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5253 - Release Date:
09/06/12No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5254 - Release Date: 09/07/12
In response to a round robin from the RYA I have attempted to upload my year’s results to the PYS site. There are ,of course, tricks to using all sites of this kind but this one seems more than usually capricious. Does anyone know how to delete all the files on the site so that I can start again. In case you are wondering - pressing the Delete icon and confirming with the Are you sure? symbol doesn’t work ,
Rgds
George Morris
···
----- Original Message -----
From:
Colin Jenkins
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanished
malcolm, are you saying with thoe fields blank it didn’t work…? i.e. not picking up the default locations automatically…
Cheers,
Colin J
http://sailwave.com
On 08/09/2012 18:09, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
On my (Win 7) PC, the SW program and associated files are in C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\ With your data, opened with SW, then in Global options, set templates to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Templates\ and styles to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Styles\ Then I could publish your results with the full range of style options available.
regards, Malcolm Osborne Sedgefield South Africa
On 2012/09/08 13:54, John Tiano wrote:
there are no templates that I can find. check out attached file
Regards,
John Tiano
Commodore SLRMBC
772 708 0893
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 AM
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanashed
the style list will not be shown if the corresponding template does not include a style element in its definition - e.g. the blog one... is it that...?
Cheers,
Colin J
ht tp://sailwave.com
On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR wrote:
When publishing my results the styles click down column(ex "red hat" etc) is blank. I have used version 2-5-1 W7 since it was first out and was working perfect till today. Any thoughts?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5253 - Release Date: 09/06/12
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5254 - Release Date: 09/07/12
George,
The delete button works for me, or at least it did. The site has been updated in the last week or so. I’ll check it works when I get home later. If you’re struggling email me directly and I’ll try to help in any way I can.
Chris Gandy
···
malcolm, are you saying with thoe fields blank it didn’t work…? i.e. not picking up the default locations automatically…
On 08/09/2012 18:09, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
Cheers,
Colin J
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5254 - Release Date: 09/07/12
On my (Win 7) PC, the SW program and associated files are in C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\
With your data, opened with SW, then in Global options, set templates to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Templates\ and styles to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Styles\
Then I could publish your results with the full range of style options available.
On 2012/09/08 13:54, John Tiano wrote:
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
there are no templates that I can find. check out attached file
Regards,
John Tiano
Commodore SLRMBC
772 708 0893
From: [] Colin Jenkins Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 AM Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanashed
the style list will not be shown if the corresponding template does not include a style element in its definition - e.g. the blog one... is it that...?
Cheers,
Colin J
ht tp://sailwave.com
On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR wrote:
When publishing my results the styles click down column(ex "red hat" etc) is blank. I have used version 2-5-1 W7 since it was first out and was working perfect till today. Any thoughts?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5253 - Release Date: 09/06/12
sailwave@yahoogroups.commailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.comOn Behalf Of
Sent:
**To:**sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
The delete button appears not to work, but the display doesn’t update. Log back in and they will be deleted. No way of delete multiple files, have to do one at a time.
I always upload a sailwave file once the series has finish. I upload them throughout the year so I don’t have massive amounts to do in one go.
Regards
Ian
···
malcolm, are you saying with thoe fields blank it didn’t work…? i.e. not picking up the default locations automatically…
On 08/09/2012 18:09, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
Cheers,
Colin J
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5254 - Release Date: 09/07/12
On my (Win 7) PC, the SW program and associated files are in C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\
With your data, opened with SW, then in Global options, set templates to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Templates\ and styles to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Styles\
Then I could publish your results with the full range of style options available.
On 2012/09/08 13:54, John Tiano wrote:
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
there are no templates that I can find. check out attached file
Regards,
John Tiano
Commodore SLRMBC
772 708 0893
From: [] Colin Jenkins Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 AM Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanashed
the style list will not be shown if the corresponding template does not include a style element in its definition - e.g. the blog one... is it that...?
Cheers,
Colin J
ht tp://sailwave.com
On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR wrote:
When publishing my results the styles click down column(ex "red hat" etc) is blank. I have used version 2-5-1 W7 since it was first out and was working perfect till today. Any thoughts?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5253 - Release Date: 09/06/12
sailwave@yahoogroups.commailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.comOn Behalf Of
Sent:
**To:**sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
Thanks v much - we make progress. Now, in Sailwave, I wish to import a race which is currently R6 in the RNLI series into a new series. How do I do this (I tried ‘Import a csv file’ but didn’t understand what I was being told to do)
rgds
George Morris
···
----- Original Message -----
From:
Ian Payne
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] PYS Website
The delete button appears not to work, but the display doesn’t update. Log back in and they will be deleted. No way of delete multiple files, have to do one at a time.
I always upload a sailwave file once the series has finish. I upload them throughout the year so I don’t have massive amounts to do in one go.
Regards
Ian
On 26 Sep 2012, at 21:01, “George Morris” <gmorris@toucansurf.com > wrote:
In response to a round robin from the RYA I have attempted to upload my year's results to the PYS site. There are ,of course, tricks to using all sites of this kind but this one seems more than usually capricious. Does anyone know how to delete all the files on the site so that I can start again. In case you are wondering - pressing the Delete icon and confirming with the Are you sure? symbol doesn't work ,
Rgds
George Morris
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Jenkins
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanished
malcolm, are you saying with thoe fields blank it didn't work...? i.e. not picking up the default locations automatically...
Cheers,
Colin J
http://sailwave.com
On 08/09/2012 18:09, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
On my (Win 7) PC, the SW program and associated files are in C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\ With your data, opened with SW, then in Global options, set templates to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Templates\ and styles to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Styles\ Then I could publish your results with the full range of style options available.
regards, Malcolm Osborne Sedgefield South Africa
On 2012/09/08 13:54, John Tiano wrote:
there are no templates that I can find. check out attached file
Regards,
John Tiano
Commodore SLRMBC
772 708 0893
From:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] ** On Behalf Of** Colin Jenkins
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanashed
the style list will not be shown if the corresponding template does not include a style element in its definition - e.g. the blog one... is it that...?
Cheers,
Colin J
ht tp://sailwave.com
On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR wrote:
When publishing my results the styles click down column(ex "red hat" etc) is blank. I have used version 2-5-1 W7 since it was first out and was working perfect till today. Any thoughts?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5253 - Release Date: 09/06/12
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5254 - Release Date: 09/07/12
George,
There are two ways if using sailwave to upload to PYS. You can either push a race or series from sailwave to PYS. You can also import a series direct into PYS.
To use the first method, open your series in sailwave. Then go to plugins along the top menu bar. Then use send to RYA. You need your affiliated club number or the number given to you by the RYA when you registered to use the PYS. In event ID give the series name, and then in races to send put 6 as that’s the race number you wish to import. Can use * to upload an entire series.
Alternatively log in to your PYS site and go to upload tab at the top. Use the sailwave file option and direct to the sailwave file on your computer. Can’t remember off the top of my head if its possible to single out the race you want but the PYS site SHOULD tell you if the other races are already loaded.
Hope that helps, let me know if you need any more help.
Chris
···
malcolm, are you saying with thoe fields blank it didn’t work…? i.e. not picking up the default locations automatically…
On 08/09/2012 18:09, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
Cheers,
Colin J
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5254 - Release Date: 09/07/12
On my (Win 7) PC, the SW program and associated files are in C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\
With your data, opened with SW, then in Global options, set templates to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Templates\ and styles to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Styles\
Then I could publish your results with the full range of style options available.
On 2012/09/08 13:54, John Tiano wrote:
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
there are no templates that I can find. check out attached file
Regards,
John Tiano
Commodore SLRMBC
772 708 0893
From:
[] Colin Jenkins Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 AM Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanashed
the style list will not be shown if the corresponding template does not include a style element in its definition - e.g. the blog one... is it that...?
Cheers,
Colin J
ht tp://sailwave.com
On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR wrote:
When publishing my results the styles click down column(ex "red hat" etc) is blank. I have used version 2-5-1 W7 since it was first out and was working perfect till today. Any thoughts?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5253 - Release Date: 09/06/12
sailwave@yahoogroups.commailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com** On Behalf Of**
Sent:
**To:**sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
Chris,
I'm thinking that George was asking something different?
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
···
On 2012/09/27 10:10, Chris Gandy wrote:
George,
There are two ways if using sailwave to upload to PYS. You can either push a race or series from sailwave to PYS. You can also import a series direct into PYS.
To use the first method, open your series in sailwave. Then go to plugins along the top menu bar. Then use send to RYA. You need your affiliated club number or the number given to you by the RYA when you registered to use the PYS. In event ID give the series name, and then in races to send put 6 as that's the race number you wish to import. Can use * to upload an entire series.
Alternatively log in to your PYS site and go to upload tab at the top. Use the sailwave file option and direct to the sailwave file on your computer. Can't remember off the top of my head if its possible to single out the race you want but the PYS site SHOULD tell you if the other races are already loaded.
Hope that helps, let me know if you need any more help.
Chris
On 27 Sep 2012, at 09:01, George Morris <gmorris@toucansurf.com > <mailto:gmorris@toucansurf.com>> wrote:
Thanks v much - we make progress. Now, in Sailwave, I wish to import a race which is currently R6 in the RNLI series into a new series. How do I do this (I tried 'Import a csv file' but didn't understand what I was being told to do)
rgds
George Morris----- Original Message -----
*From:* Ian Payne <mailto:Ian.Payne@btinternet.com>
*To:* sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:15 PM
*Subject:* Re: [sailwave] PYS WebsiteThe delete button appears not to work, but the display doesn't
update. Log back in and they will be deleted. No way of delete
multiple files, have to do one at a time.
I always upload a sailwave file once the series has finish. I
upload them throughout the year so I don't have massive amounts
to do in one go.Regards
IanOn 26 Sep 2012, at 21:01, "George Morris" <gmorris@toucansurf.com >> <mailto:gmorris@toucansurf.com>> wrote:
In response to a round robin from the RYA I have attempted to
upload my year's results to the PYS site. There are ,of course,
tricks to using all sites of this kind but this one seems more
than usually capricious. Does anyone know how to delete all the
files on the site so that I can start again. In case you are
wondering - pressing the Delete icon and confirming with the Are
you sure? symbol doesn't work ,
Rgds
George Morris----- Original Message -----
*From:* Colin Jenkins <mailto:colin@sailwave.com>
*To:* sailwave@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:05 PM
*Subject:* Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanishedmalcolm, are you saying with thoe fields blank it didn't
work...? i.e. not picking up the default locations
automatically...Cheers,
Colin J
http://sailwave.com
On 08/09/2012 18:09, Malcolm Osborne wrote:On my (Win 7) PC, the SW program and associated files are
in C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\With your data, opened with SW, then in Global options, set
templates to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Templates\ and
styles to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Styles\Then I could publish your results with the full range of
style options available.
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
On 2012/09/08 13:54, John Tiano wrote:there are no templates that I can find. check out attached
fileRegards,
John Tiano
Commodore SLRMBC
772 708 0893
*From:*sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Jenkins
*Sent:* Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 AM
*To:* sailwave@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanashedthe style list will not be shown if the corresponding
template does not include a style element in its
definition - e.g. the blog one... is it that...?Cheers,
Colin J
ht tp://sailwave.com <http://sailwave.com>On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR wrote:
When publishing my results the styles click down
column(ex "red hat" etc) is blank. I have used version
2-5-1 W7 since it was first out and was working
perfect till today. Any thoughts?No virus found in this message.
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I am indeed! I have got the upload thing hacked but I decided to construct a filtered series eliminating all the days when everybody capsized or sailed the wrong course or the wind died. It is called RFYC Combined-Filtered. I have a blank series set up. How do I import races RNLI2, Sunday Points1 and Jubilee Regatta 1 to 4 into that series?
Ta
George
···
----- Original Message -----
From:
Malcolm Osborne
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] PYS Website
Chris,
I’m thinking that George was asking something different?
regards, Malcolm Osborne Sedgefield South Africa
On 2012/09/27 10:10, Chris Gandy wrote:
George,
There are two ways if using sailwave to upload to PYS. You can either push a race or series from sailwave to PYS. You can also import a series direct into PYS.
To use the first method, open your series in sailwave. Then go to plugins along the top menu bar. Then use send to RYA. You need your affiliated club number or the number given to you by the RYA when you registered to use the PYS. In event ID give the series name, and then in races to send put 6 as that's the race number you wish to import. Can use * to upload an entire series.
Alternatively log in to your PYS site and go to upload tab at the top. Use the sailwave file option and direct to the sailwave file on your computer. Can't remember off the top of my head if its possible to single out the race you want but the PYS site SHOULD tell you if the other races are already loaded.
Hope that helps, let me know if you need any more help.
Chris
On 27 Sep 2012, at 09:01, George Morris gmorris@toucansurf.com wrote:
Thanks v much - we make progress. Now, in Sailwave, I wish to import a race which is currently R6 in the RNLI series into a new series. How do I do this (I tried 'Import a csv file' but didn't understand what I was being told to do)
rgds
George Morris
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Payne
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] PYS Website
The delete button appears not to work, but the display doesn't update. Log back in and they will be deleted. No way of delete multiple files, have to do one at a time.
I always upload a sailwave file once the series has finish. I upload them throughout the year so I don't have massive amounts to do in one go.
Regards
Ian
On 26 Sep 2012, at 21:01, “George Morris” gmorris@toucansurf.com wrote:
In response to a round robin from the RYA I have attempted to upload my year's results to the PYS site. There are ,of course, tricks to using all sites of this kind but this one seems more than usually capricious. Does anyone know how to delete all the files on the site so that I can start again. In case you are wondering - pressing the Delete icon and confirming with the Are you sure? symbol doesn't work ,
Rgds
George Morris
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Jenkins
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanished
malcolm, are you saying with thoe fields blank it didn't work...? i.e. not picking up the default locations automatically...
Cheers,
Colin J
http://sailwave.com
On 08/09/2012 18:09, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
On my (Win 7) PC, the SW program and associated files are in C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\ With your data, opened with SW, then in Global options, set templates to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Templates\ and styles to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Styles\ Then I could publish your results with the full range of style options available.
regards, Malcolm Osborne Sedgefield South Africa
On 2012/09/08 13:54, John Tiano wrote:
there are no templates that I can find. check out attached file
Regards,
John Tiano
Commodore SLRMBC
772 708 0893
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] ** On Behalf Of** Colin Jenkins
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanashed
the style list will not be shown if the corresponding template does not include a style element in its definition - e.g. the blog one... is it that...?
Cheers,
Colin J
ht tp://sailwave.com
On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR wrote:
When publishing my results the styles click down column(ex "red hat" etc) is blank. I have used version 2-5-1 W7 since it was first out and was working perfect till today. Any thoughts?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5253 - Release Date: 09/06/12
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5254 - Release Date: 09/07/12
Ah sorry misread the email… Apologies.
Chris
···
Chris,
I’m thinking that George was asking something different?
On 2012/09/27 10:10, Chris Gandy wrote:
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
George,
There are two ways if using sailwave to upload to PYS. You can either push a race or series from sailwave to PYS. You can also import a series direct into PYS.
To use the first method, open your series in sailwave. Then go to plugins along the top menu bar. Then use send to RYA. You need your affiliated club number or the number given to you by the RYA when you registered to use the PYS. In event ID give the series name, and then in races to send put 6 as that's the race number you wish to import. Can use * to upload an entire series.
Alternatively log in to your PYS site and go to upload tab at the top. Use the sailwave file option and direct to the sailwave file on your computer. Can't remember off the top of my head if its possible to single out the race you want but the PYS site SHOULD tell you if the other races are already loaded.
Hope that helps, let me know if you need any more help.
Chris
On 27 Sep 2012, at 09:01, George Morris gmorris@toucansurf.com wrote:
Thanks v much - we make progress. Now, in Sailwave, I wish to import a race which is currently R6 in the RNLI series into a new series. How do I do this (I tried 'Import a csv file' but didn't understand what I was being told to do)
rgds
George Morris
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Payne
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] PYS Website
The delete button appears not to work, but the display doesn't update. Log back in and they will be deleted. No way of delete multiple files, have to do one at a time.
I always upload a sailwave file once the series has finish. I upload them throughout the year so I don't have massive amounts to do in one go.
Regards
Ian
On 26 Sep 2012, at 21:01, “George Morris” gmorris@toucansurf.com wrote:
In response to a round robin from the RYA I have attempted to upload my year's results to the PYS site. There are ,of course, tricks to using all sites of this kind but this one seems more than usually capricious. Does anyone know how to delete all the files on the site so that I can start again. In case you are wondering - pressing the Delete icon and confirming with the Are you sure? symbol doesn't work ,
Rgds
George Morris
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Jenkins
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanished
malcolm, are you saying with thoe fields blank it didn't work...? i.e. not picking up the default locations automatically...
On 08/09/2012 18:09, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
Cheers,
Colin J
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5254 - Release Date: 09/07/12
On my (Win 7) PC, the SW program and associated files are in C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\
With your data, opened with SW, then in Global options, set templates to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Templates\ and styles to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Styles\
Then I could publish your results with the full range of style options available.
On 2012/09/08 13:54, John Tiano wrote:
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
there are no templates that I can find. check out attached file
Regards,
John Tiano
Commodore SLRMBC
772 708 0893
From: [] Colin Jenkins Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 AM Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanashed
the style list will not be shown if the corresponding template does not include a style element in its definition - e.g. the blog one... is it that...?
Cheers,
Colin J
ht tp://sailwave.com
On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR wrote:
When publishing my results the styles click down column(ex "red hat" etc) is blank. I have used version 2-5-1 W7 since it was first out and was working perfect till today. Any thoughts?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5253 - Release Date: 09/06/12
sailwave@yahoogroups.commailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com** On Behalf Of**
Sent:
**To:**sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
···
Hi George,
I got your support request on the website.
The FAQ you commented on is about importing from a CSV file.
To import/merge races from one Sailwave series to another use
this menu:-
File+MergeInAnotherSailwaveSeries
On 27/09/2012 10:22, George Morris wrote:
Cheers,
Colin J
I am indeed! I have got the upload thing
hacked but I decided to construct a filtered series
eliminating all the days when everybody capsized or
sailed the wrong course or the wind died. It is called
RFYC Combined-Filtered. I have a blank series set up.
How do I import races RNLI2, Sunday Points1 and Jubilee
Regatta 1 to 4 into that series?
Ta
George
----- Original Message
From:
Malcolm Osborne
Sent: Thursday,
September 27, 2012 9:42 AM
Subject: Re:
[sailwave] PYS Website
No virus
found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5293 - Release Date:
09/26/12
Chris,
I'm thinking that George was asking something
different?
On 2012/09/27 10:10, Chris Gandy wrote:
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
George,
There are two ways if using sailwave to upload
to PYS. You can either push a race or series from
sailwave to PYS. You can also import a series
direct into PYS.
To use the first method, open your series in
sailwave. Then go to plugins along the top menu
bar. Then use send to RYA. You need your
affiliated club number or the number given to you
by the RYA when you registered to use the PYS. In
event ID give the series name, and then in races
to send put 6 as that’s the race number you wish
to import. Can use * to upload an entire series.
Alternatively log in to your PYS site and go to
upload tab at the top. Use the sailwave file
option and direct to the sailwave file on your
computer. Can’t remember off the top of my head if
its possible to single out the race you want but
the PYS site SHOULD tell you if the other races
are already loaded.
Hope that helps, let me know if you need any
more help.
Chris
On 27 Sep 2012, at 09:01, George Morris <gmorris@toucansurf.com >
wrote:
Thanks v much - we make
progress. Now, in Sailwave, I wish to
import a race which is currently R6 in the
RNLI series into a new series. How do I do
this (I tried ‘Import a csv file’ but
didn’t understand what I was being told to
do)
rgds
George Morris
-----
Original Message -----
From: Ian Payne
Sent:
Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject:
Re: [sailwave] PYS Website
The delete button appears not to
work, but the display doesn’t update.
Log back in and they will be deleted. No
way of delete multiple files, have to do
one at a time.
I always upload a sailwave file once
the series has finish. I upload them
throughout the year so I don’t have
massive amounts to do in one go.Regards
Ian
On 26 Sep 2012, at 21:01, "George
Morris" <gmorris@toucansurf.com >
wrote:
In
response to a round robin from
the RYA I have attempted to
upload my year’s results to the
PYS site. There are ,of course,
tricks to using all sites of
this kind but this one seems
more than usually capricious.
Does anyone know how to delete
all the files on the site so
that I can start again. In case
you are wondering - pressing the
Delete icon and confirming with
the Are you sure? symbol doesn’t
work ,
Rgds
George
Morris
-----
Original Message -----
From:
Colin Jenkins
Sent:
Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:05
PM
Subject:
Re: [sailwave] Publish styles
list has vanished
malcolm, are
you saying with thoe fields
blank it didn’t work…?
i.e. not picking up the
default locations
automatically…
On 08/09/2012 18:09, Malcolm
Osborne wrote:
Cheers,
Colin J
No virus found
in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus
Database: 2437/5254 -
Release Date: 09/07/12
On
my (Win 7) PC, the SW
program and associated
files are in C:\Program
Files (x86)\Sailwave\
With your data, opened
with SW, then in Global
options, set templates to
C:\Program Files
(x86)\Sailwave\Templates
and styles to C:\Program
Files
(x86)\Sailwave\Styles\
Then I could publish your
results with the full
range of style options
available.
On 2012/09/08 13:54, John
Tiano wrote:
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
there are
no templates that
I can find. check
out attached file
Regards,
John Tiano
Commodore
SLRMBC
772 708
0893
From:
[]
Colin
Jenkins
Friday,
September 07,
2012 8:29 AM
Re: [sailwave]
Publish styles
list has
vanashed
the
style list
will not be
shown if the
corresponding
template does
not include a
style element
in its
definition -
e.g. the blog
one… is it
that…?
Cheers,
Colin J
ht tp://sailwave.com
On
07/09/2012
13:08,
JTIANOSR
wrote:
When
publishing my
results the
styles click
down column(ex
“red hat” etc)
is blank. I
have used
version 2-5-1
W7 since it
was first out
and was
working
perfect till
today. Any
thoughts?
No virus
found in this
message.
Checked by AVG
- www.avg.com
Version:
2012.0.2197 /
Virus
Database:
2437/5253 -
Release Date:
09/06/12
sailwave@yahoogroups.commailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com** On Behalf
Of**
Sent:
**To:**sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
That’s the bunny!
George
···
----- Original Message -----
From:
Colin Jenkins
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] PYS Website
Hi George,
I got your support request on the website.
The FAQ you commented on is about importing from a CSV file.
To import/merge races from one Sailwave series to another use this menu:-
File+MergeInAnotherSailwaveSeries
Cheers,
Colin J
http://sailwave.com
On 27/09/2012 10:22, George Morris wrote:
I am indeed! I have got the upload thing hacked but I decided to construct a filtered series eliminating all the days when everybody capsized or sailed the wrong course or the wind died. It is called RFYC Combined-Filtered. I have a blank series set up. How do I import races RNLI2, Sunday Points1 and Jubilee Regatta 1 to 4 into that series?
Ta
George
----- Original Message -----
From: Malcolm Osborne
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] PYS Website
Chris,
I'm thinking that George was asking something different?
regards, Malcolm Osborne Sedgefield South Africa
On 2012/09/27 10:10, Chris Gandy wrote:
George,
There are two ways if using sailwave to upload to PYS. You can either push a race or series from sailwave to PYS. You can also import a series direct into PYS.
To use the first method, open your series in sailwave. Then go to plugins along the top menu bar. Then use send to RYA. You need your affiliated club number or the number given to you by the RYA when you registered to use the PYS. In event ID give the series name, and then in races to send put 6 as that's the race number you wish to import. Can use * to upload an entire series.
Alternatively log in to your PYS site and go to upload tab at the top. Use the sailwave file option and direct to the sailwave file on your computer. Can't remember off the top of my head if its possible to single out the race you want but the PYS site SHOULD tell you if the other races are already loaded.
Hope that helps, let me know if you need any more help.
Chris
On 27 Sep 2012, at 09:01, George Morris gmorris@toucansurf.com wrote:
Thanks v much - we make progress. Now, in Sailwave, I wish to import a race which is currently R6 in the RNLI series into a new series. How do I do this (I tried 'Import a csv file' but didn't understand what I was being told to do)
rgds
George Morris
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Payne
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] PYS Website
The delete button appears not to work, but the display doesn't update. Log back in and they will be deleted. No way of delete multiple files, have to do one at a time.
I always upload a sailwave file once the series has finish. I upload them throughout the year so I don't have massive amounts to do in one go.
Regards
Ian
On 26 Sep 2012, at 21:01, “George Morris” gmorris@toucansurf.com wrote:
In response to a round robin from the RYA I have attempted to upload my year's results to the PYS site. There are ,of course, tricks to using all sites of this kind but this one seems more than usually capricious. Does anyone know how to delete all the files on the site so that I can start again. In case you are wondering - pressing the Delete icon and confirming with the Are you sure? symbol doesn't work ,
Rgds
George Morris
----- Original Message -----
From:
Colin Jenkins
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanished
malcolm, are you saying with thoe fields blank it didn't work...? i.e. not picking up the default locations automatically...
Cheers,
Colin J
http://sailwave.com
On 08/09/2012 18:09, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
On my (Win 7) PC, the SW program and associated files are in C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\ With your data, opened with SW, then in Global options, set templates to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Templates\ and styles to C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave\Styles\ Then I could publish your results with the full range of style options available.
regards, Malcolm Osborne Sedgefield South Africa
On 2012/09/08 13:54, John Tiano wrote:
there are no templates that I can find. check out attached file
Regards,
John Tiano
Commodore SLRMBC
772 708 0893
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] ** On Behalf Of** Colin Jenkins
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
Re: [sailwave] Publish styles list has vanashed
the style list will not be shown if the corresponding template does not include a style element in its definition - e.g. the blog one... is it that...?
Cheers,
Colin J
ht tp://sailwave.com
On 07/09/2012 13:08, JTIANOSR wrote:
When publishing my results the styles click down column(ex "red hat" etc) is blank. I have used version 2-5-1 W7 since it was first out and was working perfect till today. Any thoughts?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5253 - Release Date: 09/06/12
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5254 - Release Date: 09/07/12
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5293 - Release Date: 09/26/12
···
with pretty
pictures too
On 27/09/2012 15:09, George Morris wrote:
Cheers,
Colin J
That’s the bunny!
George
----- Original Message
From:
Colin Jenkins
Sent: Thursday,
September 27, 2012 11:26 AM
Subject: Re:
[sailwave] PYS Website
No virus
found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5293 - Release Date:
09/26/12
Hi
George,
I got your support request on the website.
The FAQ you commented on is about importing from a
CSV file.
To import/merge races from one Sailwave series to
another use this menu:-
File+MergeInAnotherSailwaveSeries
On 27/09/2012 10:22, George Morris wrote:
Cheers,
Colin J
I am indeed! I have got the
upload thing hacked but I decided to construct a
filtered series eliminating all the days when
everybody capsized or sailed the wrong course or
the wind died. It is called RFYC
Combined-Filtered. I have a blank series set up.
How do I import races RNLI2, Sunday Points1 and
Jubilee Regatta 1 to 4 into that series?
Ta
George
----- Original
Message -----
From:
Malcolm
Osborne
Sent:
Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:42 AM
Subject: Re:
[sailwave] PYS Website
No virus found in
this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5293 -
Release Date: 09/26/12
Chris,
I'm thinking that George was asking something
different?
On 2012/09/27 10:10, Chris Gandy wrote:
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
George,
There are two ways if using sailwave to
upload to PYS. You can either push a race
or series from sailwave to PYS. You can
also import a series direct into PYS.
To use the first method, open your
series in sailwave. Then go to plugins
along the top menu bar. Then use send to
RYA. You need your affiliated club number
or the number given to you by the RYA when
you registered to use the PYS. In event ID
give the series name, and then in races to
send put 6 as that’s the race number you
wish to import. Can use * to upload an
entire series.
Alternatively log in to your PYS site
and go to upload tab at the top. Use the
sailwave file option and direct to the
sailwave file on your computer. Can’t
remember off the top of my head if its
possible to single out the race you want
but the PYS site SHOULD tell you if the
other races are already loaded.
Hope that helps, let me know if you
need any more help.
Chris
On 27 Sep 2012, at 09:01, George Morris
<gmorris@toucansurf.com >
wrote:
Thanks v much - we
make progress. Now, in Sailwave, I
wish to import a race which is
currently R6 in the RNLI series
into a new series. How do I do
this (I tried ‘Import a csv file’
but didn’t understand what I was
being told to do)
rgds
George Morris
-----
Original Message -----
From:
Ian Payne
Sent:
Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:15
PM
Subject:
Re: [sailwave] PYS Website
The delete button appears not
to work, but the display doesn’t
update. Log back in and they
will be deleted. No way of
delete multiple files, have to
do one at a time.
I always upload a sailwave
file once the series has finish.
I upload them throughout the
year so I don’t have massive
amounts to do in one go.Regards
Ian
On 26 Sep 2012, at 21:01,
“George Morris” <gmorris@toucansurf.com >
wrote:
In response to
a round robin from the
RYA I have attempted to
upload my year’s results
to the PYS site. There
are ,of course, tricks
to using all sites of
this kind but this one
seems more than usually
capricious. Does anyone
know how to delete all
the files on the site so
that I can start again.
In case you are
wondering - pressing the
Delete icon and
confirming with the Are
you sure? symbol doesn’t
work ,
Rgds
George Morris
----- Original
Message -----
From: Colin
Jenkins
Sent:
Tuesday, September 11,
2012 8:05 PM
Subject:
Re: [sailwave] Publish
styles list has vanished
malcolm,
are you saying with
thoe fields blank it
didn’t work…?
i.e. not picking up
the default
locations
automatically…
On 08/09/2012 18:09,
Malcolm Osborne wrote:
Cheers,
Colin J
No
virus found in this
message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197
/ Virus Database:
2437/5254 - Release
Date: 09/07/12
On
my (Win 7) PC, the
SW program and
associated files
are in C:\Program
Files
(x86)\Sailwave\
With your data,
opened with SW,
then in Global
options, set
templates to
C:\Program Files
(x86)\Sailwave\Templates
and styles to
C:\Program Files
(x86)\Sailwave\Styles\
Then I could
publish your
results with the
full range of
style options
available.
On 2012/09/08
13:54, John Tiano
wrote:
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa
there
are no
templates that
I can find.
check out
attached file
Regards,
John
Tiano
Commodore
SLRMBC
772 708
0893
From:
[]
Colin
Jenkins
Friday,
September 07,
2012 8:29 AM
Re: [sailwave]
Publish styles
list has
vanashed
the
style list
will not be
shown if the
corresponding
template does
not include a
style element
in its
definition -
e.g. the blog
one… is it
that…?
Cheers,
Colin J
ht tp://sailwave.com
On
07/09/2012
13:08,
JTIANOSR
wrote:
When
publishing my
results the
styles click
down column(ex
“red hat” etc)
is blank. I
have used
version 2-5-1
W7 since it
was first out
and was
working
perfect till
today. Any
thoughts?
No virus
found in this
message.
Checked by AVG
- www.avg.com
Version:
2012.0.2197 /
Virus
Database:
2437/5253 -
Release Date:
09/06/12
sailwave@yahoogroups.commailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com** On Behalf
Of**
Sent:
**To:**sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: