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Hi: I have been rabbeting to Colin about making Sailwave a little
friendlier for people who publish to paper. During regattas it is very
useful to get the results up quickly for competitors, and the more
automated the process the better. Colin suggested that I conduct a
poll of the user group.
My fear is that I'm only a small part of a small minority. If only two
or three users publish to paper then I will accept Sailwave as is and
work around the problems. Maybe I need to find out how others publish
neat results on paper, perhaps I'm missing something?
  So, the questions are really to measure the percentage of users who
may want some improvements. Currently using paper requires a lot of
formatting, and cutting and pasting in Word to make results fit neatly
on A4 or 8.5 x 11. If you don't split tables of results the rows run
over page breaks in strange ways. This formatting is time consuming
and stressful to do in a yacht club full of happy sailors!
  The small changes I would like are pretty simple. Merely the ability
to specify the number of result rows (competitors) 'outputted' from
Sailwave in a block, together with the ability to put column titles on
top of each block. If you don't label the columns periodically the
reader loses track of what each column is reporting.
  Best of all would be to have Sailwave do all the formatting without
the need to use Word - anything but Microsoft - but this may give
Colin too much work.
  Perhaps I should have included a choice marked "Leave it alone it's OK!"
  The poll ends automatically on April 11.
  I hope this clears up any confusions about the purpose of the poll.
  I didn't quite understand how the poll formatting worked.
Bye, Donald

2

Surely publishing in Excel is a lot easier than Word, then you can cut & paste or hide at will?

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Subject: [sailwave] Questions about my poll

` Hi: I have been rabbeting to Colin about making Sailwave a little
friendlier for people who publish to paper. During regattas it is very
useful to get the results up quickly for competitors, and the more
automated the process the better. Colin suggested that I conduct a
poll of the user group.
My fear is that I’m only a small part of a small minority. If only two
or three users publish to paper then I will accept Sailwave as is and
work around the problems. Maybe I need to find out how others publish
neat results on paper, perhaps I’m missing something?
So, the questions are really to measure the percentage of users who
may want some improvements. Currently using paper requires a lot of
formatting, and cutting and pasting in Word to make results fit neatly
on A4 or 8.5 x 11. If you don’t split tables of results the rows run
over page breaks in strange ways. This formatting is time consuming
and stressful to do in a yacht club full of happy sailors!
The small changes I would like are pretty simple. Merely the ability
to specify the number of result rows (competitors) ‘outputted’ from
Sailwave in a block, together with the ability to put column titles on
top of each block. If you don’t label the columns periodically the
reader loses track of what each column is reporting.
Best of all would be to have Sailwave do all the formatting without
the need to use Word - anything but Microsoft - but this may give
Colin too much work.
Perhaps I should have included a choice marked “Leave it alone it’s OK!”
The poll ends automatically on April 11.
I hope this clears up any confusions about the purpose of the poll.
I didn’t quite understand how the poll formatting worked.
Bye, Donald

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I have found publishing to paper relatively simple. I save the results as an HTML file on my hard drive. Then I open it and print it. Maybe that’s not as easy as hitting the print button after you’ve done the scoring, but it’s not a problem for me. Ann

4

Hi Ann, if you just want the paper results (part way through an event
say) you can opt to publish to your "browser" and then just print
from there; this saves the file save step. CJ.

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--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ann Newton" <afnewt@e...> wrote:

I have found publishing to paper relatively simple. I save the

results as an HTML file on my hard drive. Then I open it and print
it. Maybe that's not as easy as hitting the print button after you've
done the scoring, but it's not a problem for me. Ann

5

Hi: How do you get your browser to format the pages so that rows
aren't split at page breaks. What does it look like when you have 2
feet of printout. This is my problem. Donald

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Sailwave" <colin@s...> wrote:

Hi Ann, if you just want the paper results (part way through an event
say) you can opt to publish to your "browser" and then just print
from there; this saves the file save step. CJ.

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ann Newton" <afnewt@e...> wrote:
> I have found publishing to paper relatively simple. I save the
results as an HTML file on my hard drive. Then I open it and print
it. Maybe that's not as easy as hitting the print button after you've
done the scoring, but it's not a problem for me. Ann

6

Hi,

Surely publishing in Excel is a lot easier than Word, then you can cut &
paste or hide at will?

please do not use other software products for publishing! We don't have
MS-Office on our club (we use OpenOffice) so we couldn't publish something
in the future.

I think Colin uses Delphi for programming. Is there no report component for
generating printer output?

Regards
Andreas Kaiser

7

Hi Kieth: I'm sure it is if you are an Excel user! More seriously, you
still have to break up the blocks of results and cut and paste. As
I've said it is stressful to do as the output can go into orbit. How
long does it take you to do it for 8 big fleets and not have page
breaks through the middle of a row. Donald

Surely publishing in Excel is a lot easier than Word, then you can

cut & paste or hide at will?

  From: longcove2002
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:45 PM
  Subject: [sailwave] Questions about my poll

  Hi: I have been rabbeting to Colin about making Sailwave a little
  friendlier for people who publish to paper. During regattas it is very
  useful to get the results up quickly for competitors, and the more
  automated the process the better. Colin suggested that I conduct a
  poll of the user group.
  My fear is that I'm only a small part of a small minority. If only two
  or three users publish to paper then I will accept Sailwave as is and
  work around the problems. Maybe I need to find out how others publish
  neat results on paper, perhaps I'm missing something?
    So, the questions are really to measure the percentage of users who
  may want some improvements. Currently using paper requires a lot of
  formatting, and cutting and pasting in Word to make results fit neatly
  on A4 or 8.5 x 11. If you don't split tables of results the rows run
  over page breaks in strange ways. This formatting is time consuming
  and stressful to do in a yacht club full of happy sailors!
    The small changes I would like are pretty simple. Merely the ability
  to specify the number of result rows (competitors) 'outputted' from
  Sailwave in a block, together with the ability to put column titles on
  top of each block. If you don't label the columns periodically the
  reader loses track of what each column is reporting.
    Best of all would be to have Sailwave do all the formatting without
  the need to use Word - anything but Microsoft - but this may give
  Colin too much work.
    Perhaps I should have included a choice marked "Leave it alone

it's OK!"

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  ----- Original Message -----
    The poll ends automatically on April 11.
    I hope this clears up any confusions about the purpose of the poll.
    I didn't quite understand how the poll formatting worked.
  Bye, Donald

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Andreas/Donald et al

please do not use other software products for publishing! We don't have

MS-Office on our club (we use OpenOffice) so we couldn't publish something
in the future.<

I agree. In fact I've removed the excel and word publishing destinations -
they were not 'real' in that all that happened is that Sailwave wrote the
html file and then opened it with word or excel - I think their existence is
causing a lot of confusion - I would prefer to work with people to get the
HTML out of Sailwave such that the do not have to do any other work - this
was the original intention. I always worry when I see excel generated
Sailwave results on web sites - especially when they don't actually look any
better then the HTML that Sailwave produces!

I'll add some page controls as requested by Donald; most modern browsers
understand the media control stuff these days.

I still think that generating HTML (or XML) and *then* using 'something' to
view/print it is a usable and useful model. I could write code to print
directly to a printer but it would *never* satisfy everybody's
requirements - whereas the HTML route can get much closer; especially with
style sheets.

We also need a friendly user interface to generate a Sailwave style sheet
file - then folk can generate a style without having html/css knowledge.

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

Regards,
Colin

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Colin,

I am sorry you have removed the publish to Excel option as I used this to
further analyse the results produced by SailWave. In particular
- to allow me to do personal handicapping based on the mechanisms outlined
in RYA YR2
- to allow me to do calculations based on RYA YR2 for the annual return
- to allow me to add up numbers of boats sailing in the various classes
being raced
- to calculate who has raced the most number of times
- to count how many boats raced in each race by and the number of DNF, DNS,
OOD codes

If you can produce a format, say XML, that can be used by various different
packages - web browser, word processor & spreadsheet for example then fine -
then great, but to remove functionality that has been provided is a
retrograde step in my view.

I thought your using HTML to provide a formatted output was an excellent
move on your part because it removed the need for you to deal with printing
in SailWave passing it off to another application whose coders have more
time to deal with the issues, whilst you concentrate on the core
requirements of SailWave, i.e. producing race results.

With regard to those users who use OpenOffice - I strongly believe that
their word processing and spreadsheet components are very compatible with
Microsoft Office. This was one of the key design goals of the OpenOffice
group and Sun with commercial version called StarOffice.

Enough of my two cents worth.

Time for others to comment.

Kind regards,
Huw Pearce

···

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:45 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Questions about my poll

Andreas/Donald et al

please do not use other software products for publishing! We don't have

MS-Office on our club (we use OpenOffice) so we couldn't publish something
in the future.<

I agree. In fact I've removed the excel and word publishing destinations -
they were not 'real' in that all that happened is that Sailwave wrote the
html file and then opened it with word or excel - I think their existence is
causing a lot of confusion - I would prefer to work with people to get the
HTML out of Sailwave such that the do not have to do any other work - this
was the original intention. I always worry when I see excel generated
Sailwave results on web sites - especially when they don't actually look any
better then the HTML that Sailwave produces!

I'll add some page controls as requested by Donald; most modern browsers
understand the media control stuff these days.

I still think that generating HTML (or XML) and *then* using 'something' to
view/print it is a usable and useful model. I could write code to print
directly to a printer but it would *never* satisfy everybody's
requirements - whereas the HTML route can get much closer; especially with
style sheets.

We also need a friendly user interface to generate a Sailwave style sheet
file - then folk can generate a style without having html/css knowledge.

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

Regards,
Colin

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Hi all,

I publish results to paper, as well as the web.
We found that printing from IE5 was OK, if you highlight the required text
and then print the selected text.
Also adjust printer margins to max, set to landscape. You can use templates
to use smaller fonts to squeeze more on.
Switch off unnecessary columns before printing.
We have a 20 race series, which just goes on a A4 sheet.
This is a slight pain, and I'm sure that some minor additional formatting
(page breaks came to mind) could improve it.
I have never found a need to use Word, when printing to paper.

I have had requests for a personal handicap system in our club, but having
experimented with it a couple of years ago, I would perfer if sailwave could
do it all for me, as it is too much like hard work each week. So for me this
is a more pressing issue.

Please keep up the good work, Colin. Sailwave is a first class product.

Ian
CYC Results Officer
www.cycresults.btinternet.co.uk

11

The way we manage printing results for large regattas is to print a single fleet at a time. So if we have 8 large classes, we print the results for each class separately. This is a little tedious as you have to run the publish dialog for each race for each class separately. If the results for a class go over a single page we tape them together.

An improvement, which might be fairly easy to implement, is to have an option when publishing results for all classes that enables the results to be written to separate files or browsers. File 1 contains the summary for class 1, file 2 contains the detail for class 1 race 1, etc…

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-------Original Message-------

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Date: Friday, March 28, 2003 04:46:06

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [sailwave] Questions about my poll

`Hi: I have been rabbeting to Colin about making Sailwave a little
friendlier for people who publish to paper. During regattas it is very
useful to get the results up quickly for competitors, and the more
automated the process the better. Colin suggested that I conduct a
poll of the user group.
My fear is that I’m only a small part of a small minority. If only two
or three users publish to paper then I will accept Sailwave as is and
work around the problems. Maybe I need to find out how others publish
neat results on paper, perhaps I’m missing something?
So, the questions are really to measure the percentage of users who
may want some improvements. Currently using paper requires a lot of
formatting, and cutting and pasting in Word to make results fit neatly
on A4 or 8.5 x 11. If you don’t split tables of results the rows run
over page breaks in strange ways. This formatting is time consuming
and stressful to do in a yacht club full of happy sailors!
The small changes I would like are pretty simple. Merely the ability
to specify the number of result rows (competitors) ‘outputted’ from
Sailwave in a block, together with the ability to put column titles on
top of each block. If you don’t label the columns periodically the
reader loses track of what each column is reporting.
Best of all would be to have Sailwave do all the formatting without
the need to use Word - anything but Microsoft - but this may give
Colin too much work.
Perhaps I should have included a choice marked “Leave it alone it’s OK!”
The poll ends automatically on April 11.
I hope this clears up any confusions about the purpose of the poll.
I didn’t quite understand how the poll formatting worked.
Bye, Donald

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Thanks Colin: Last time I looked at the poll there did seem to be a demand
for improved printing. I think you are on the right track if you provide
an interface to generate different style sheets. All the ‘pre built’ ones
you currently provide are variations on a theme without allowing fundamental
changes in format. I’m baffled that people would be happy printing HTML it
must look like, er, how do we say this, unprofessional. Perhaps other scorers
are all Joe Cool but I really perspire till the results are printed, what
with protests, alcohol, wrong sail numbers - so the less stress the better.
Keep going, did you win the last race of the season or were you too hung
over? Bye, Donald

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In reality I don't interface to Excel - I just create the HTML file and use
Excel to open it. So removing the option just removes a convenience... CJ

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-----Original Message-----
From: Huw Pearce [mailto:huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk]
Sent: 28 March 2003 17:14
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Questions about my poll

Colin,

I am sorry you have removed the publish to Excel option as I used this to
further analyse the results produced by SailWave. In particular
- to allow me to do personal handicapping based on the mechanisms outlined
in RYA YR2
- to allow me to do calculations based on RYA YR2 for the annual return
- to allow me to add up numbers of boats sailing in the various classes
being raced
- to calculate who has raced the most number of times
- to count how many boats raced in each race by and the number of DNF, DNS,
OOD codes

If you can produce a format, say XML, that can be used by various different
packages - web browser, word processor & spreadsheet for example then fine -
then great, but to remove functionality that has been provided is a
retrograde step in my view.

I thought your using HTML to provide a formatted output was an excellent
move on your part because it removed the need for you to deal with printing
in SailWave passing it off to another application whose coders have more
time to deal with the issues, whilst you concentrate on the core
requirements of SailWave, i.e. producing race results.

With regard to those users who use OpenOffice - I strongly believe that
their word processing and spreadsheet components are very compatible with
Microsoft Office. This was one of the key design goals of the OpenOffice
group and Sun with commercial version called StarOffice.

Enough of my two cents worth.

Time for others to comment.

Kind regards,
Huw Pearce

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:45 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Questions about my poll

Andreas/Donald et al

please do not use other software products for publishing! We don't have

MS-Office on our club (we use OpenOffice) so we couldn't publish something
in the future.<

I agree. In fact I've removed the excel and word publishing destinations -
they were not 'real' in that all that happened is that Sailwave wrote the
html file and then opened it with word or excel - I think their existence is
causing a lot of confusion - I would prefer to work with people to get the
HTML out of Sailwave such that the do not have to do any other work - this
was the original intention. I always worry when I see excel generated
Sailwave results on web sites - especially when they don't actually look any
better then the HTML that Sailwave produces!

I'll add some page controls as requested by Donald; most modern browsers
understand the media control stuff these days.

I still think that generating HTML (or XML) and *then* using 'something' to
view/print it is a usable and useful model. I could write code to print
directly to a printer but it would *never* satisfy everybody's
requirements - whereas the HTML route can get much closer; especially with
style sheets.

We also need a friendly user interface to generate a Sailwave style sheet
file - then folk can generate a style without having html/css knowledge.

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

Regards,
Colin

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Hello Colin,

Friday, March 28, 2003, 7:45:04 AM, you wrote:

I still think that generating HTML (or XML) and *then* using 'something' to
view/print it is a usable and useful model. I could write code to print
directly to a printer but it would *never* satisfy everybody's
requirements - whereas the HTML route can get much closer; especially with
style sheets.

I don't know what print formatting controls there are in HTML and XML,
but I think the user needs the ability to make two choices for hard
copy output:

1. Start new page for each class
2. Don't insert page break within class

The second option would allow more than one class per page, but would
ensure that no class is split over two pages (it would have to be
ignored for Really Big classes (that would occupy more than one page
anyway), of course.

If the user doesn't select either option, the results would be printed
letting the page breaks fall where they may.

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Devastated that you are removing the Excel publishing destination facility. This is the only way I can format results to fit the results template on our website and conform to our established order protocol. Unless new versions of Sailwave are idiot proof, click easy and contain a Help file for club members who simply volunteer to handle race results and are not IT buffs, then we will have to stick to the current 1.45 version 'till Kingdom come.

···

----- Original Message -----

From:
Colin Jenkins

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:45 PM

Subject: RE: [sailwave] Questions about my poll

`Andreas/Donald et al

please do not use other software products for publishing! We don’t have
MS-Office on our club (we use OpenOffice) so we couldn’t publish something
in the future.<

I agree. In fact I’ve removed the excel and word publishing destinations -
they were not ‘real’ in that all that happened is that Sailwave wrote the
html file and then opened it with word or excel - I think their existence is
causing a lot of confusion - I would prefer to work with people to get the
HTML out of Sailwave such that the do not have to do any other work - this
was the original intention. I always worry when I see excel generated
Sailwave results on web sites - especially when they don’t actually look any
better then the HTML that Sailwave produces!

I’ll add some page controls as requested by Donald; most modern browsers
understand the media control stuff these days.

I still think that generating HTML (or XML) and then using ‘something’ to
view/print it is a usable and useful model. I could write code to print
directly to a printer but it would never satisfy everybody’s
requirements - whereas the HTML route can get much closer; especially with
style sheets.

We also need a friendly user interface to generate a Sailwave style sheet
file - then folk can generate a style without having html/css knowledge.

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

Regards,
Colin

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Keith, Hew et al,

Devastated that you are removing the Excel publishing destination facility. This is the only way I can format results to fit the results template on our website and conform to our established order protocol. Unless new versions of Sailwave are idiot proof, click easy and contain a Help file for club members who simply volunteer to handle race results and are not IT buffs, then we will have to stick to the current 1.45 version 'till Kingdom come. <

It’s back in a different form that is not specific to any particular application (never liked that). The radio button says ‘To a web page and then open in the application specified below’ and the tooltip explains that it writes a file in your windows temp folder and then opens it in the app you specify (i.e. exactly as it works now but generalised to any app). The app name is sticky so you only need to specify it once. The other way to do it is to make Excel your default .htm editor in the Windows Shell and then use the existing ‘to your default web page editor’ option.

However, the whole point of this was to work with users to try and get Sailwave to produce what they need rather then have them fiddle in excel. Can you send me an example of your final results web page so that I can see what you require.

Regards,

Colin

www.sailwave.com

From:
Colin Jenkins

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:45 PM

Subject: RE: [sailwave] Questions about my poll

`Andreas/Donald et al

please do not use other software products for publishing! We don’t have
MS-Office on our club (we use OpenOffice) so we couldn’t publish something
in the future.<

I agree. In fact I’ve removed the excel and word publishing destinations -
they were not ‘real’ in that all that happened is that Sailwave wrote the
html file and then opened it with word or excel - I think their existence is
causing a lot of confusion - I would prefer to work with people to get the
HTML out of Sailwave such that the do not have to do any other work - this
was the original intention. I always worry when I see excel generated
Sailwave results on web sites - especially when they don’t actually look any
better then the HTML that Sailwave produces!

I’ll add some page controls as requested by Donald; most modern browsers
understand the media control stuff these days.

I still think that generating HTML (or XML) and then using ‘something’ to
view/print it is a usable and useful model. I could write code to print
directly to a printer but it would never satisfy everybody’s
requirements - whereas the HTML route can get much closer; especially with
style sheets.

We also need a friendly user interface to generate a Sailwave style sheet
file - then folk can generate a style without having html/css knowledge.

Regards,
Colin J
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Regards,
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Peter,

I don't know what print formatting controls there are in HTML and XML,
but I think the user needs the ability to make two choices for hard
copy output:

1. Start new page for each class
2. Don't insert page break within class

The second option would allow more than one class per page, but would
ensure that no class is split over two pages (it would have to be
ignored for Really Big classes (that would occupy more than one page
anyway), of course.

If the user doesn't select either option, the results would be printed
letting the page breaks fall where they may.
<

I agree; that's exactly what I'm proposing - keep HTML but tweak the HTML
that Sailwave produces such that it's printer page friendly. I will use CSS
for this purpose. See this link: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/page.html.

Regards,
Colin J
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did you win the last race of the season or were you too hung over? Bye, Donald<

http://www.mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/results/2002/ch200211001.htm

:slight_smile: 1 point between the first 3 positions. I tied with another boat for 1st place on elapsed time in race 10 - interesting situation - I actually went over the line a very slightly in front of him and if it wasn’t a handicap race, I’d have beaten him, however because it was a handicap race - and the rules say you have to score to the nearest second - we both got the same time…

CJ

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Hi Mark,

I propose three options:-

  1. Option to start a new page per (Sailwave) fleet if the series has been scored by fleet.

  2. Print N lines per table when printing series summary, competitor list, race tables etc.

  3. Option to start a new page per race when publishing race detail tables.

Agree that a file per fleet would be a useful addition.

I’m working on a direct FTP interface at present (so that results are sent straight to the web sute when publishing); will come back to publishing layout soon; clearly it’s an area that needs significant work.

CJ

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Townsend [mailto:s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com]
Sent: 28 March 2003 17:57
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Questions about my poll

  The way we manage printing results for large regattas is to print a single fleet at a time. So if we have 8 large classes, we print the results for each class separately. This is a little tedious as you have to run the publish dialog for each race for each class separately. If the results for a class go over a single page we tape them together.

  An improvement, which might be fairly easy to implement, is to have an option when publishing results for all classes that enables the results to be written to separate files or browsers. File 1 contains the summary for class 1, file 2 contains the detail for class 1 race 1, etc....

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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Date: Friday, March 28, 2003 04:46:06

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [sailwave] Questions about my poll

` Hi: I have been rabbeting to Colin about making Sailwave a little
friendlier for people who publish to paper. During regattas it is very
useful to get the results up quickly for competitors, and the more
automated the process the better. Colin suggested that I conduct a
poll of the user group.
My fear is that I’m only a small part of a small minority. If only two
or three users publish to paper then I will accept Sailwave as is and
work around the problems. Maybe I need to find out how others publish
neat results on paper, perhaps I’m missing something?
So, the questions are really to measure the percentage of users who
may want some improvements. Currently using paper requires a lot of
formatting, and cutting and pasting in Word to make results fit neatly
on A4 or 8.5 x 11. If you don’t split tables of results the rows run
over page breaks in strange ways. This formatting is time consuming
and stressful to do in a yacht club full of happy sailors!
The small changes I would like are pretty simple. Merely the ability
to specify the number of result rows (competitors) ‘outputted’ from
Sailwave in a block, together with the ability to put column titles on
top of each block. If you don’t label the columns periodically the
reader loses track of what each column is reporting.
Best of all would be to have Sailwave do all the formatting without
the need to use Word - anything but Microsoft - but this may give
Colin too much work.
Perhaps I should have included a choice marked “Leave it alone it’s OK!”
The poll ends automatically on April 11.
I hope this clears up any confusions about the purpose of the poll.
I didn’t quite understand how the poll formatting worked.
Bye, Donald

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I have had requests for a personal handicap system in our club, but having

experimented with it a couple of years ago, I would perfer if sailwave could
do it all for me, as it is too much like hard work each week. So for me this
is a more pressing issue.<

I will be addressing personal handicaps but cannot give you any dates.

Please keep up the good work, Colin. Sailwave is a first class product.<

Thanks; appreciated...

Regards,
Colin J
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