Race that wasn't a race?

OK Here's the situation:

The Sailing Instructions specify that for any fleet to have a race there
must be more than 1 boat at the start. If there is only one boat at the
start line the fleet should skip its start and join the handicap start
(last start).

So - I have a handicap start which actually only had one boat in it.
The RO has timed it and there is also a fleet which starts at the same
time as the handicap fleet so there are other boats to compare corrected
times to for interest... but for series purposes the race result has to
be counted as void.

I can set a new code with a code NAR (Not a race) and make it score like
DNC. It even seems the time is stored and so can be retrieved at a
later date. But can I show the time in the results table? That'd be
more useful than showing NAR or DNC...

Calum

Calum Polwart wrote:

OK Here's the situation:

The Sailing Instructions specify that for any fleet to have a race there
must be more than 1 boat at the start. If there is only one boat at the
start line the fleet should skip its start and join the handicap start
(last start).

So - I have a handicap start which actually only had one boat in it.
The RO has timed it and there is also a fleet which starts at the same
time as the handicap fleet so there are other boats to compare corrected
times to for interest... but for series purposes the race result has to
be counted as void.

I can set a new code with a code NAR (Not a race) and make it score like
DNC. It even seems the time is stored and so can be retrieved at a
later date. But can I show the time in the results table? That'd be
more useful than showing NAR or DNC...

Calum

Further to that I'd need the discards to consider this race as never run?

Why 'void'? Your SI's seem to allow a race with one boat (the handicap start - based on what you have written).

Mike
Lancing SC

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The Sailing Instructions specify that for any fleet to have a race there
must be more than 1 boat at the start. If there is only one boat at the
start line the fleet should skip its start and join the handicap start
(last start).

So - I have a handicap start which actually only had one boat in it.
The RO has timed it and there is also a fleet which starts at the same
time as the handicap fleet so there are other boats to compare corrected
times to for interest... but for series purposes the race result has to
be counted as void.

michaeldcroker wrote:

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>,
Calum Polwart <yahoo@...> wrote:

The Sailing Instructions specify that for any fleet to have a race there
must be more than 1 boat at the start. If there is only one boat at the
start line the fleet should skip its start and join the handicap start
(last start).

So - I have a handicap start which actually only had one boat in it.
The RO has timed it and there is also a fleet which starts at the same
time as the handicap fleet so there are other boats to compare corrected
times to for interest... but for series purposes the race result has to
be counted as void.

Why 'void'? Your SI's seem to allow a race with one boat (the handicap
start - based on what you have written).

Mike
Lancing SC

Sorry badly paraphrased and mostly irrelevant!

The club's view is that a race is only a race if there is someone to
beat so a single boat can not be a race. For most fleets that would
mean joining the handicap fleet and sailing with them instead so that
you still have a race. However the same principle is applied to the
handicap fleet - if it there is only a single boat starts the handicap
race its not classed as a race as they can't beat anyone (are they first
or last?). We could argue till the cows come home if its the right
approach or not... but its the approach they use

The actual phrase in the 2009 SIs is:

"A race in any fleet will have a minimum of two boats."

Fleets are defined elsewhere in the SIs and 'handicap' is a fleet.

But there doesn't seem to be any way to mark a race not run after you've
entered a result for it. (other than deleting the result)

The club's view is that a race is only a race if there is someone to
beat so a single boat can not be a race.

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We could argue till the cows come home if its the right
approach or not... but its the approach they use

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But there doesn't seem to be any way to mark a race not run after you've
entered a result for it. (other than deleting the result)

That's what I'd do in your shoes (delete the result, remove the start and re-score: job done). I'd also suggest that your SIs are revised :wink:

Mike
Lancing SC

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