-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Mark Schneider
Sent: 19 July 2005 15:48
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] RE: Rating needed to win column blank and PHRF
Just a note. The Chesapeake Bay region (CBYRA) uses their
locally produced
program Java score.
Currently java score does not compute either BCR or BCE. Since
almost all
of the Bay is racing PHRF or one design... my repeated requests
to have java
score compute these stats for the few Portsmouth races that the clubs
score for us (beach cats) have not bubbled up on the priortiy list.
It makes sense to report out seconds per mile behind or total
time behind in
a time on distance race but the numbers are meaningless for a
time on time
race.
With the push for IRC on the east coast as a replacement for PHRF for the
top big boats I hope they will now have a reason to update their
code....
Upgrading their software solution is probably is too much to hope for.
Nevertheless... I would like to configure sailwave to generate a
table like
java score. The sailors here are used to seeing time allowance,
time behind
and/or time behind as seconds per mile behind.
EG. Solomons Island Race July 2005.
Division: PHRF A0 (7 boats) (top) Distance 55 miles
Pos Sail Boat Skipper Rating Finish Time Time Allowance
Corrected Time Time Behind Penalty Pts
1 USA 2 STRAY DOG ENGH, CHARLES 9 1/06:34:31 0/00:08:15
0/11:36:16 0/00:00:00 1.0
2 50282 ALTAIR JOHNSON, TOM 3 1/06:51:20 0/00:02:45
0/11:58:35 0/00:22:19 2.0
Where Time allowance is the distance times rating and Time
Behind is actual
sailing time you would have needed to save to win (I think)
Any thoughts on how to do this.
(I haven't played much with sailwave and PHRF ratings.
Thanks
Mark
>From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
>Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
>To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [sailwave] RE: Rating needed to win column blank
>Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:55:51 +0100
>
>Hi Wayne,
>
>It's probably worth mentioning that an equivalent interpretation
of BCR is
>the rating that you sailed to, assuming the winner sailed to
their rating.
>
>For exmaple in the example race 3 below, assuming I sailed to my rating
>(dubious), Chris had an effective rating of 121.5, or put another way, if
>his rating had been 121.5 in that race he would have tied for
first place.
>
>He needed to sail 53 seconds faster to tie for first place. As
Huw stated,
>BCE is useful because it's a direct indication of how much faster you
>needed
>to sail *over the water* - the differences in handicap are taken into
>account in the calculation.
>
>http://results.sailwave.com/r3.htm
>
>Totally random example of course.
>
>Colin
>www.sailwave.com
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Huw Pearce
> > Sent: 19 July 2005 11:36
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [sailwave] RE: Rating needed to win column blank
> >
> >
> > Hi Wayne,
> >
> >
> > BCE - Back Calculated Elapsed time to win, i.e. the amount of on
> > the course
> > time that would have had to be shaved off to come equal first
> > BCR - Back Calculated Rating that would be need to come equal
first, the
> > difference between this value and the rating used to calculate the
>results
> > is an indication of how the crew are sailing
> > RDG - is a scoring code for Redress Given, i.e. a protest
committee has
> > considered a protest or request for redress and decided that
> > boats or boats
> > have had their finishing position affected by the incident being
> > considered.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Kind regards,
> > Huw
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
> > Wayne Nolan
> > Sent: 19 July 2005 10:53
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [sailwave] RE: Rating needed to win column blank
> >
> >
> > Hi Colin
> > What does BCE, BCR and RDG stand for??
> > Cheers Wayne
> >
> > Colin Jenkins wrote:
> >
> > >Hi Kerry,
> > >
> > >I have fixed the problem (with the calculation of BCE and BCR in the
> > context
> > >of RDG (etc) without an associated elapsed time) and will
posting a new
> > >version of Sailwave to the user group in a few dats; thanks for the
> > >feedback, it was very useful.
> > >
> > >Colin
> > >www.sailwave.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >>From: Kerry Stares [mailto:kerry_stares@uk.ibm.com]
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Colin,
> > >> I am probably doing something wrong as I havent
> > used Sailwave
> > >>for very long. Anyway heres the series file.
> > >> Thanks
> > >> Kerry
> > >>
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