Can we embedded the rating values into the regatta series file insted
of creating a .csv file and copying it into the ratings directory ???
Thank you,
Sudhakar
Hi Sudhakar,
Yes, if you look at the a .blw that contains ratings (from
installdir/examples for e.g.) you'll see the the required syntax. Is that
what you mean?
Are you creating .blw files directly from RM or CSV files...?
Regards,
Colin
sailwave.com
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Hi Colin,
RM will export the competitors into a CSV. The firstline will have
the sailwave column names as specified in the sailwave document.
I am trying to work on the possibilities of exporting the data
directly into a .blw file. To do this I am trying to understand how
exactly the sailwave application works. Is there a document that I
can refer to configure a sample Regatta with competitors from
multiple classes (PHRF, IRC, Onedesign, etc...) enter start and
finish times then score the classes independently for each race and
then for the entire regatta.
Do we have to specify a scoring system for each class (PHRF, IRC,
Onedesign, etc...)?
Thank you,
Sudhakar
Hi Sudhakar,
Yes, if you look at the a .blw that contains ratings (from
installdir/examples for e.g.) you'll see the the required syntax.
Is that
what you mean?
Are you creating .blw files directly from RM or CSV files...?
Regards,
Colin
sailwave.com> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
> Behalf Of Sud
> Sent: 07 December 2005 17:16
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Ratings Embedded into BLW file.....
>
>
> Can we embedded the rating values into the regatta series file
insted
> of creating a .csv file and copying it into the ratings
directory ???
>
> Thank you,
> Sudhakar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Latest versions of sailwave can be downloaded from the 'files'
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sailwave/
>
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--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Jenkins" <colin@s...> wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
Hi Sudhakar
RM will export the competitors into a CSV. The firstline will have
the sailwave column names as specified in the sailwave document.
I am trying to work on the possibilities of exporting the data
directly into a .blw file.
OK, but you can include the rating as a CSV column as well.
To do this I am trying to understand how
exactly the sailwave application works. Is there a document that I
can refer to configure a sample Regatta with competitors from
multiple classes (PHRF, IRC, Onedesign, etc...) enter start and
finish times then score the classes independently for each race and
then for the entire regatta.
Not really. Some pointers though. Firstly read the Sailwave philosophy
section in the help file (you'll need the latest version from the web for
this) - that gives you the approach. Competitors are not formally 'put
into' divisioins etc; rather each competitors has a wide range of available
fields that you can populate giving them common properties; for example a
group of competitors may all have fleet=PHRF. Then when scoring you can
'score by field' in this case fleet and Sialwave will score each unique
fleet separately. This flat-database approach gives huge flexibility when
scoring. For example after doing the formal results you can for fun score
by club, class age-groups, regiion etc etc to get results that competitors
really like to see and have a bit of banter about at the bar - "our club is
beating yours" etc...
When scoring Sailwave always does the whole series; i..e is scors every
sailed race every time. You do not have to score races individually; just
hit the score button.
It's a little different to other software but when you get used to it, it's
*very* simple and easy to use.
Do we have to specify a scoring system for each class (PHRF, IRC,
Onedesign, etc...)?
Only if you want to score them differently. When you apply a scoring system
and score by fleet (say) the main scoring system will be applied to each
fleet unless you specify scoring rules to be applied on a fleet specific
bases. For example the rating system in the main scoring system that you
apply may be USAPN, but when scoring by fleet you may want the PHRF fleet to
use the PHTFToD rating system, so you create a scoring rule that is applpied
when Fleet=PHRF, inheriting everything except the scoring system. Again
this provides great flexibility in that you can score the series in may
different way and using different rating systems, which again is of interest
to competitors. I am trying to get clubs to not just provide 'the' results
but interesting altermnatives as well.
Sailwave is a haooby and at the present I get very little time to work on
it - I am working on getting more hellp into the system but until then treat
this group of a kind of interactive manual.
Apologies for probable typos, have to go to real work...
Regards,
Colin
sailwave.com
···
Thank you,
Sudhakar--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Jenkins" <colin@s...> wrote:
>
> Hi Sudhakar,
>
> Yes, if you look at the a .blw that contains ratings (from
> installdir/examples for e.g.) you'll see the the required syntax.
Is that
> what you mean?
>
> Are you creating .blw files directly from RM or CSV files...?
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> sailwave.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
> > Behalf Of Sud
> > Sent: 07 December 2005 17:16
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [sailwave] Ratings Embedded into BLW file.....
> >
> >
> > Can we embedded the rating values into the regatta series file
insted
> > of creating a .csv file and copying it into the ratings
directory ???
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Sudhakar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -!- http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/ -!- http://www.sailing.org/
> > -!- http://www.sailwave.com/ -!-
> >
> > Latest versions of sailwave can be downloaded from the 'files'
section at
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sailwave/
> >
> > On-Line Sailwave help...
> > http://sailwave.com/help/HTML/
> >
> > Convert to daily digest of emails send blank email to:
> > sailwave-digest@yahoogroups.com
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hi Colin,
Thank you for your detailed email. After going through your email and
Sailwave philosophy now the things are clear to me. I have configured
one of our races in Sailwave and generated the results. They exactly
match the results we already have. I am really impressed by the
flexibility Sailwave provides for scoring the races.
Thank You
-Sudhakar
Hi Sudhakar
> RM will export the competitors into a CSV. The firstline will have
> the sailwave column names as specified in the sailwave document.
> I am trying to work on the possibilities of exporting the data
> directly into a .blw file.OK, but you can include the rating as a CSV column as well.
> To do this I am trying to understand how
> exactly the sailwave application works. Is there a document that I
> can refer to configure a sample Regatta with competitors from
> multiple classes (PHRF, IRC, Onedesign, etc...) enter start and
> finish times then score the classes independently for each race
and
> then for the entire regatta.
Not really. Some pointers though. Firstly read the Sailwave
philosophy
section in the help file (you'll need the latest version from the
web for
this) - that gives you the approach. Competitors are not
formally 'put
into' divisioins etc; rather each competitors has a wide range of
available
fields that you can populate giving them common properties; for
example a
group of competitors may all have fleet=PHRF. Then when scoring
you can
'score by field' in this case fleet and Sialwave will score each
unique
fleet separately. This flat-database approach gives huge
flexibility when
scoring. For example after doing the formal results you can for
fun score
by club, class age-groups, regiion etc etc to get results that
competitors
really like to see and have a bit of banter about at the bar - "our
club is
beating yours" etc...
When scoring Sailwave always does the whole series; i..e is scors
every
sailed race every time. You do not have to score races
individually; just
hit the score button.
It's a little different to other software but when you get used to
it, it's
*very* simple and easy to use.
> Do we have to specify a scoring system for each class (PHRF, IRC,
> Onedesign, etc...)?Only if you want to score them differently. When you apply a
scoring system
and score by fleet (say) the main scoring system will be applied to
each
fleet unless you specify scoring rules to be applied on a fleet
specific
bases. For example the rating system in the main scoring system
that you
apply may be USAPN, but when scoring by fleet you may want the PHRF
fleet to
use the PHTFToD rating system, so you create a scoring rule that is
applpied
when Fleet=PHRF, inheriting everything except the scoring system.
Again
this provides great flexibility in that you can score the series in
may
different way and using different rating systems, which again is of
interest
to competitors. I am trying to get clubs to not just provide 'the'
results
but interesting altermnatives as well.
Sailwave is a haooby and at the present I get very little time to
work on
it - I am working on getting more hellp into the system but until
then treat
this group of a kind of interactive manual.
Apologies for probable typos, have to go to real work...
Regards,
Colin
sailwave.com> Thank you,
> Sudhakar
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Jenkins" <colin@s...>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sudhakar,
> >
> > Yes, if you look at the a .blw that contains ratings (from
> > installdir/examples for e.g.) you'll see the the required
syntax.
> Is that
> > what you mean?
> >
> > Are you creating .blw files directly from RM or CSV files...?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Colin
> > sailwave.com
> >
> >
> > > From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Sud
> > > Sent: 07 December 2005 17:16
> > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [sailwave] Ratings Embedded into BLW file.....
> > >
> > >
> > > Can we embedded the rating values into the regatta series file
> insted
> > > of creating a .csv file and copying it into the ratings
> directory ???
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Sudhakar
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -!- http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/ -!-
> > > -!- http://www.sailwave.com/ -!-
> > >
> > > Latest versions of sailwave can be downloaded from the 'files'
> section at
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sailwave/
> > >
> > > On-Line Sailwave help...
> > > http://sailwave.com/help/HTML/
> > >
> > > Convert to daily digest of emails send blank email to:
> > > sailwave-digest@yahoogroups.com
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>
> -!- http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/ -!- http://www.sailing.org/
> -!- http://www.sailwave.com/ -!-
>
> Latest versions of sailwave can be downloaded from the 'files'
section at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sailwave/
>
> On-Line Sailwave help...
> http://sailwave.com/help/HTML/
>
> Convert to daily digest of emails send blank email to:
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
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