2009 numbers posted here today
http://www.rya.org.uk/KnowledgeBase/technical/Pages/pys.aspx
Regards
Ralph
Does anyone know what the correct PY numbers are for the FEVA S and FEVA XL?
The RYA PY number in 2008 was:
FEVA 1189 (Recorded)
FEVA XL 1200 (Trial) (this entry has been dropped from the 2009 list)
RS Have :
FEVA XL 1189
FEVA S 1240 (I have seen 1260 for this boat)
What numbers should I use?
and if anyone does know of a quick way to extract an average BCR for each competitor from a whole series then I would still like to know.
Mark Warren Milton Keynes SC.
Does anyone know what the correct PY numbers are for the FEVA S and FEVA XL?
Presumably there isn't a 'correct' one as it's not in the 2009 list - so make one up 
and if anyone does know of a quick way to extract an average BCR for each competitor from a whole series then I would still like to know.
Open series, 'F6' and select BCR, then 'File, 'Export series summary to windows clipboard', making sure that the race columns + some form of ID are exported, then paste into Excel (or OpenOffice) - sorted 
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--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "mark936545" <mswarren@...> wrote:
Last year’s RYA list showed
Feva 1189
Feva XL 1200
Never come across a Feva S
The reason that a class is removed from the list will be because there were insufficient clubs sending in a return for that class
If you need to find a number for an old class, try contacting Bas Edmonds at the RYA
He has the database of all annual returns & quite often can give advice on what other clubs have used
Regards
Ralph
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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Croker
Sent: 07 March 2009 22:28
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: RYA PY Numbers 2009
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “mark936545” <mswarren@…> wrote:
Does anyone know what the correct PY numbers are for the FEVA S and FEVA XL?
Presumably there isn’t a ‘correct’ one as it’s not in the 2009 list - so make one up
and if anyone does know of a quick way to extract an average BCR for each competitor from a whole series then I would still like to know.
Open series, ‘F6’ and select BCR, then 'File, ‘Export series summary to windows clipboard’, making sure that the race columns + some form of ID are exported, then paste into Excel (or OpenOffice) - sorted
Does anyone have a PY number for the Laser Vago? I am curently using 1000 in the RPCYC Gul Winter Series in Plymouth and the 2 youngsters sailing it are holding their own against 2 RS400s, a Tasar, 2 Laser 5000s, International Canoe, a Phantom and a B14 and are 4th in the series. Other websites seem to indicate a variety of PY numbers from 1000 to 1060.
Have a look at the attached PY list which I have just updated for 2009
PYs are arrived at from various sources as shown in the status column
RYA numbers are marked P, S, R & T
Other numbers are from various sources & need to be used with caution
I have got 4 PYs for various configurations of the Vago, recommended by the class, ranging from 1000 to 1100
Guess the Plymouth youngsters are a bit hot
Happy for others to use the attached, perhaps you could let me know if you have more up to date info
Regards
Ralph
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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of drecklykernow
Sent: 08 March 2009 16:53
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: RYA PY Numbers 2009
Does anyone have a PY number for the Laser Vago? I am curently using 1000 in the RPCYC Gul Winter Series in Plymouth and the 2 youngsters sailing it are holding their own against 2 RS400s, a Tasar, 2 Laser 5000s, International Canoe, a Phantom and a B14 and are 4th in the series. Other websites seem to indicate a variety of PY numbers from 1000 to 1060.
Mike,
Thanks or the answers.
I must admit that I had hoped there would be a way to extract the average BCR for a series for each competitor.
Currently I use the full 'Publish' selecting publish all races and then cut/paste from the html. This puts the BCR in a single column when pasted into excel so that when sorted By Helm and Boat they are reasonably easy to handle to get the average.
Your method puts all the BCRs in a single row for each competitor. I will have a play and see which is easier.
With regard to the FEVA PY, of course we do have our club numbers, but it does get difficult when the RYA and RS seem to have the PYs the opposite way round and I am asked to justify my selection (currently the RYA 2008 numbers)
Thanks again, Mark.
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--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Croker" <mdcroker@...> wrote:
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "mark936545" <mswarren@> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what the correct PY numbers are for the FEVA S and FEVA XL?Presumably there isn't a 'correct' one as it's not in the 2009 list - so make one up
> and if anyone does know of a quick way to extract an average BCR for each competitor from a whole series then I would still like to know.
>
Open series, 'F6' and select BCR, then 'File, 'Export series summary to windows clipboard', making sure that the race columns + some form of ID are exported, then paste into Excel (or OpenOffice) - sorted
Normally if Handicap is not in RYA published numbers, I will
tend to use the most recent RYA published number.
In this case there is no recent published number that you are
aware of, so Google becomes quite handy “Feva S” in Searchbox
I found this
http://www.abclubhk.com/download/172.pdf
Which suggest 1260 for the Feva S.
You may use that as a Trial number or decide to lower it
slightly to ensure the non proven handicap does not walk away with all your
cups in his first season (As you might be accused of favouring him with a
handicap)
Regards
T
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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 08 March 2009 10:31
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: RYA PY Numbers 2009
Last year’s RYA list showed
Feva 1189
Feva XL 1200
Never come across a Feva S
The reason that a class is removed from the list will be because
there were insufficient clubs sending in a return for that class
If you need to find a number for an old class, try contacting
Bas Edmonds at the RYA
He has the database of all annual returns & quite often
can give advice on what other clubs have used
Regards
Ralph
From:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Croker
Sent: 07 March 2009 22:28
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: RYA PY Numbers 2009
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com,
“mark936545” <mswarren@…> wrote:
Does anyone know what the correct PY numbers are for the FEVA S and FEVA
XL?
Presumably there isn’t a ‘correct’ one as it’s not in the 2009 list - so make
one up
and if anyone does know of a quick way to extract an average BCR for each
competitor from a whole series then I would still like to know.
Open series, ‘F6’ and select BCR, then 'File, ‘Export series summary to windows
clipboard’, making sure that the race columns + some form of ID are exported,
then paste into Excel (or OpenOffice) - sorted
Based on the shiney RS leaflet that I acquired at the Dinghy Show (also info at http://www.rssailing.com/fleetsnew.asp?fleet=RS%20Feva&selection=Details%20and%20Spec - although they say 'Feva' which = 'Feva S' according to leaflet):
Feva S has a smaller mainsail than an XL, and an optional genniker. Hence XL should be faster - unless it spends all its time inverted
Personally I would initially use 1189 for the 'bells and whistles' boat (XL), then make some educated guesses for the two 'S' configurations.
HTH?
Mike
Lancing SC
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--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph Tingle" <rat@...> wrote:
Last year's RYA list showed
Feva 1189
Feva XL 1200
Never come across a Feva S
We use 1189 for XL and 1200 for S.
I think the RYA got them around the wrong way in last years PY book.
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To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: mdcroker@which.net
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:05:13 +0000
Subject: [sailwave] Re: RYA PY Numbers 2009
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Ralph Tingle” <rat@…> wrote:
Last year’s RYA list showed
Feva 1189
Feva XL 1200
Never come across a Feva S
Based on the shiney RS leaflet that I acquired at the Dinghy Show (also info at [http://www.rssailing.com/fleetsnew.asp?fleet=RS%20Feva&selection=Details%20and%20Spec](http://www.rssailing.com/fleetsnew.asp?fleet=RS Feva&selection=Details and Spec) - although they say ‘Feva’ which = ‘Feva S’ according to leaflet):
Feva S has a smaller mainsail than an XL, and an optional genniker. Hence XL should be faster - unless it spends all its time inverted
Personally I would initially use 1189 for the ‘bells and whistles’ boat (XL), then make some educated guesses for the two ‘S’ configurations.
HTH?
Mike
Lancing SC
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