sailno wizard

Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field' wizard.
My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against those
sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

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Colin
In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class), or
S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap between
sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking. Hence
one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody) more
ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
Regards
Mike Croker

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  From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
  Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard

  Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
  explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
  My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
  water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against those
  sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
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Hi Mike,

OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail number as
"1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help? It
means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and results
with Sailwave sorting things out later.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

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Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Colin
In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class), or
S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap between
sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking. Hence
one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody) more
ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
Regards
Mike Croker
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  Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard

  Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
  explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
  My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
  water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against those
  sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
  name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

  Regards,
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I agree with this view, sail numbers are fine for 99% of the time. It is
just that, if you were going to change the wizard, I would make it work on
any field rather than just add helm names (although that would be the most
likely one to use). To be honest, it is fine as is.

Regards,

Richard Gunn

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-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:18
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Hi Mike,

OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail number as
"1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help? It
means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and results
with Sailwave sorting things out later.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Croker [mailto:mdcroker@which.net]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Colin
In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class), or
S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap between
sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking. Hence
one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody) more
ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
Regards
Mike Croker
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
  Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard

  Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
  explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
  My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
  water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against those
  sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
  name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

  Regards,
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  www.sailwave.com

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Colin,

Yes, our club records helm and elapsed time on the water. We typically have few enough boats racing that the RC knows everyone by name.

But this isn't a problem for me in sailwave - I simply put the helm name and boat type in the sailnumber field (ie. "Duncan CAT22"). Then when entering results I can type the first few characters of the name and it pulls up the rest automatically. Works great as-is for me.

Jay
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At 03:07 PM 2/26/2004 +0000, Colin Jenkins wrote:

Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field' wizard.
My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against those
sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

I agree with Richard that it is fine as it is, although Colin's suggestion
would have saved me some grief last season.
Now what about those sailors that swap boats within a given class.......
Leave it as it is!
Mike

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-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Gunn [mailto:richard@gunn.me.uk]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:30
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

I agree with this view, sail numbers are fine for 99% of the time. It is
just that, if you were going to change the wizard, I would make it work on
any field rather than just add helm names (although that would be the most
likely one to use). To be honest, it is fine as is.

Regards,

Richard Gunn

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:18
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Hi Mike,

OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail number as
"1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help? It
means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and results
with Sailwave sorting things out later.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Croker [mailto:mdcroker@which.net]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Colin
In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class), or
S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap between
sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking. Hence
one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody) more
ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
Regards
Mike Croker
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  From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
  Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard

  Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
  explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
  My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
  water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against those
  sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
  name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

  Regards,
  Colin J
  www.sailwave.com

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We have a couple of boats that have "used" sails and have different numbers
on the main and jib. Illegal, I know, but we don't worry about it in club
races. Allowing a number like 1064,10665 would solve the problem for us
since some r/c's record the jib number and others record the number on the
main. But it's not a big deal if it would screw up anything else.

Thanks.

Will Gordon
(cycscorer)

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-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:18 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Hi Mike,

OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail number as
"1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help? It
means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and results
with Sailwave sorting things out later.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Croker [mailto:mdcroker@which.net]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Colin
In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class), or
S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap between
sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking. Hence
one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody) more
ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
Regards
Mike Croker
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
  Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard

  Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
  explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
  My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
  water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against those
  sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
  name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

  Regards,
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  www.sailwave.com

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It's a small tweak that I'll include in 1.52 this weekend
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Sent: 26 February 2004 17:17
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

We have a couple of boats that have "used" sails and have different numbers
on the main and jib. Illegal, I know, but we don't worry about it in club
races. Allowing a number like 1064,10665 would solve the problem for us
since some r/c's record the jib number and others record the number on the
main. But it's not a big deal if it would screw up anything else.

Thanks.

Will Gordon
(cycscorer)
-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:18 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Hi Mike,

OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail number as
"1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help? It
means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and results
with Sailwave sorting things out later.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Croker [mailto:mdcroker@which.net]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Colin
In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class), or
S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap between
sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking. Hence
one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody) more
ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
Regards
Mike Croker
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
  Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard

  Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
  explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
  My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
  water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against those
  sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
  name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

  Regards,
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  www.sailwave.com

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