[sailwave] 1.74 Scoring Systems

Martin_Bolgen · 1 July 2005 17:25

Hi!
Think Ralph is into something here.

First thing I toght of was "Greate, then I can make defalt files save them and make them RO, and later use them as a starting point for that kind of scoring." Lets say I make a .blw file called Optimist-Flights.blw, and make it RO.....

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Hi Colin 
 
"I think the inheritance is OTT as it stands " 
After 2 secs of panicking as to why all the options were greyed out, I liked it!! 
 

From the very early days, SW has always been easy to use if you just go through each menu/option & 

ask yourself if it needs changing. The scoring system inherit method is really great because if you 
start with a good My App A, you are unlikely to transfer bad practices/ideas to other regattas. 
 
 
Regards 
Ralph 
 
 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com] 
Sent: 01 July 2005 13:14 
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.74 Scoring Systems 
 
 
Hi Ralph, 
 
Yes, the scoring systems are local to each series. There will be a 
library/load/save facility for them (and everything else) but it's not there 
yet. NB the scope rules are:- 
 
1. Everything defined in Setup+GlobalOptions is common to all series. 
2. Everything else is series-specific, (hence the grouping in the setup 
menu). 
 
I think the inheritance is OTT as it stands, scoring systems that are value 
specific should inherit but the main list should probably be independent for 
clarity. I also think the value specific scoring systems should be 
available as a list 'inside' the host system, again for clarity about what's 
happening. It's a bit too much of a free-4-all at present. I know I get 
confused which would tend to imply the UI is not very good at the moment. 
 
Regards, 
Colin 
www.sailwave.com 
 
 

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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On 
Behalf Of Ralph Tingle 
Sent: 01 July 2005 13:03 
To: Sailwave 
Subject: [sailwave] 1.74 Scoring Systems 
 
 
 
Just testing 1.74 
 
Really like the scoring system (inherit) options to be able to 
create a bespoke scoring system from 
a 'sound' base. 
Was a bit thrown when my bespoke system did not show in the 
series data on the left until I learnt 
that it changes after the first time you score the series. 
 
Creating a new series however does not list my bespoke scoring 
system as an alternative to My App A. 
 
I can live with copying the file from the last time I used the 
bespoke system but it would be nice 
if I did not need to delete all the previous regatta data. 
 
 
Regards 
Ralph 
 
 
 
 
 
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RalphT · 1 July 2005 17:43

.....and if you take the idea even further .......

The .blw file could also include other information such as starts, flight colours + all the other
things I cannot think of now.
This file could then be made available on the web site for users to down load!
The idea is limitless as it can cover all types of races & solves the problems of new users (& those
of us who have a bad memory!!) who have difficulty with basics such as how to set up a General
Handicap with multiple starts but & all finishers given a clock time .......

Good idea Martin

Regards
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-----Original Message-----
From: Martin B�lgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]
Sent: 01 July 2005 18:25
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.74 Scoring Systems

Hi!
Think Ralph is into something here.

First thing I toght of was "Greate, then I can make defalt files save them and make them RO, and
later use them as a starting point for that kind of scoring." Lets say I make a .blw file called
Optimist-Flights.blw, and make it RO.....

regards!
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:35:39 +0100

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Hi Colin 
 
"I think the inheritance is OTT as it stands " 
After 2 secs of panicking as to why all the options were greyed out, I liked it!! 
 

From the very early days, SW has always been easy to use if you just go through each menu/option

&

ask yourself if it needs changing. The scoring system inherit method is really great because if

you

start with a good My App A, you are unlikely to transfer bad practices/ideas to other regattas. 
 
 
Regards 
Ralph 
 
 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com] 
Sent: 01 July 2005 13:14 
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [sailwave] 1.74 Scoring Systems 
 
 
Hi Ralph, 
 
Yes, the scoring systems are local to each series.� There will be a 
library/load/save facility for them (and everything else) but it's not there 
yet.� NB the scope rules are:- 
 
1.� Everything defined in Setup+GlobalOptions is common to all series. 
2.� Everything else is series-specific, (hence the grouping in the setup 
menu). 
 
I think the inheritance is OTT as it stands, scoring systems that are value 
specific should inherit but the main list should probably be independent for 
clarity.� I also think the value specific scoring systems should be 
available as a list 'inside' the host system, again for clarity about what's 
happening.� It's a bit too much of a free-4-all at present.� I know I get 
confused which would tend to imply the UI is not very good at the moment. 
 
Regards, 
Colin 
www.sailwave.com 
 
 

-----Original Message----- 
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On 
Behalf Of Ralph Tingle 
Sent: 01 July 2005 13:03 
To: Sailwave 
Subject: [sailwave] 1.74 Scoring Systems 
 
 
 
Just testing 1.74 
 
Really like the scoring system (inherit) options to be able to 
create a bespoke scoring system from 
a 'sound' base. 
Was a bit thrown when my bespoke system did not show in the 
series data on the left until I learnt 
that it changes after the first time you score the series. 
 
Creating a new series however does not list my bespoke scoring 
system as an alternative to My App A. 
 
I can live with copying the file from the last time I used the 
bespoke system but it would be nice 
if I did not need to delete all the previous regatta data. 
 
 
Regards 
Ralph 
 
 
 
 
 
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