[sailwave] Cox-Sprague

You can always use more discards in a bigger series to overcome (most)
of this problem. Set the number of races to count as half the number of
races in a series + 1 (easily set in the discard profile). As long as a
competitor does at least this number of races then they can be
competitive.

Regards

Colin Davis
Staunton Harold SC

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Harrell [mailto:jamesharrell@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:18 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Cox-Sprague

At 01:30 PM 9/1/2004 +0100, Colin Jenkins wrote:

Why use high point scoring systems at all

In the club series at our club, the number of boats will vary from 3 to
14
and that presents two problems for the standard low-point system. First
is
that a DNC is a huge usually insurmountable penalty. Second is that it
is
tremendously easier to place high on a low turnout day than on a high
turnout day, but the points earned are the same.

We typically have six to eight race days in a series and score the
series
as a collection of days instead of individual races, and we are using
the
low-point system with one discard. The result is a strict
stratification
of results by number of days attended. At the trophy level, this works
okay as it requires attendance and good sailing in order to win. But
for
people who miss more than one day, their result (within their strata)
will
depend almost entirely on whether they raced on high-turnout or
low-turnout
days and not much on how well they sail.

I've experimented with various other ways of scoring our series, but
haven't found something that made it worth the effort to explain to the
group and I'm not sure anyone cares other than me.

Jay Harrell
www.osyc.net

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If you wish to find the best sailor then a low point scoring system with
multiple discards will provide this even in a long series. However the
reason most clubs use a high point series is to encourage participation and
reward not only the best sailor but also the sailor who participates
regularly. Each of the high point systems trying to provide a balance
between performance and participation.

Another system that was popular in the UK for awhile was the Twiname high
point system.

    1 point for starting
    1 point for every boat that you beat that was ahead of you or 10 points
less behind you in the series.

The major problem with the system was that it tended to favor sailors who
did well at the end of the series. In fact if you didn't place well in the
last few races you were unlikely to win. But it did guarantee that everyone
showed up for the last race of the series!

Mark

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-------Original Message-------

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Date: 09/01/04 08:07:45
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Cox-Sprague

You can always use more discards in a bigger series to overcome (most)
of this problem. Set the number of races to count as half the number of
races in a series + 1 (easily set in the discard profile). As long as a
competitor does at least this number of races then they can be
competitive.

Regards

Colin Davis
Staunton Harold SC

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Harrell [mailto:jamesharrell@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:18 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Cox-Sprague

At 01:30 PM 9/1/2004 +0100, Colin Jenkins wrote:

Why use high point scoring systems at all

In the club series at our club, the number of boats will vary from 3 to
14
and that presents two problems for the standard low-point system. First
is
that a DNC is a huge usually insurmountable penalty. Second is that it
is
tremendously easier to place high on a low turnout day than on a high
turnout day, but the points earned are the same.

We typically have six to eight race days in a series and score the
series
as a collection of days instead of individual races, and we are using
the
low-point system with one discard. The result is a strict
stratification
of results by number of days attended. At the trophy level, this works
okay as it requires attendance and good sailing in order to win. But
for
people who miss more than one day, their result (within their strata)
will
depend almost entirely on whether they raced on high-turnout or
low-turnout
days and not much on how well they sail.

I've experimented with various other ways of scoring our series, but
haven't found something that made it worth the effort to explain to the
group and I'm not sure anyone cares other than me.

Jay Harrell
www.osyc.net

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