Colin,
I agree with everyone else on the links and
on the agreement.
We will provide a link on our site and forward
the url when it is completed.
Scott Malcolm
Commodore
Catamaran Racing Association of Northern New England (USA)
C.R.A.N.N.E (Hobie Fleet 209/ Prindle Fleet 80 /Nacra Fleet 80
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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Sailwave Licence Agreement
From: "sailwave2" <sailwave2@yahoo.co.uk>
2. Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
From: jim.coffey@dfpni.gov.uk
3. Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
From: Andreas Kaiser <listen@vocote.de>
4. RE: Sailwave Licence Agreement
From: "Robinson, Kit" <Kit.Robinson@pilkington.com>
5. Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
From: "Richard Kingsnorth" <sailing@compass-marquees.co.uk>
6. Links
From: "Shanklin Sailing Club"
<shanklinsailingclub@btinternet.com>
7. Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
From: "Mark Jardine" <mark@yachtsandyachting.com>
8. Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
From: "sailwave2" <sailwave2@yahoo.co.uk>
9. Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
From: wmriggng@aol.com
10. RE: Sailwave Licence Agreement
From: "Rebecca Blanco" <rblanco@prtc.net>
11. Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
From: fredwelker@aol.com
12. Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
From: "David Ferguson" <dave@fergusonsnw.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:31:29 -0000
From: "sailwave2" <sailwave2@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Sailwave Licence Agreement
I'm thinking of introducing the concept of a licence agreement in
v1.42. All the agreement will say is something to the effect of -
if you press the Agree button you are agreeing to leave the link to
sailwave (and any other links I so choose to include) in the footer
of any published results and agree to include a link to Sailwave on
your web site - if you have one. Also that any templates you create
youself include a link to the same in the results footer.
While I am dedicated in principle to Sailwave remaining a free
resource, It would be nice to get some 'pocket money' back or be able
to barter merchanside in exchange for advertising on the site or
maybe find a main sponsor for the software itself... The idea of the
links in the footer is so that I can demonstrate usage because they
show up in Google searches for example. I currently "request" the
deal in para 1 above on the web site and in the FAQ, but it's
silently denied in a lot of cases...
Any comments from the SUG either way welcome. Seems a small price to
pay for a free Sailwave...?
CJ
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:36:49 +0000
From: jim.coffey@dfpni.gov.uk
Subject: Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
Colin
We at Ballyholme Yacht Club are happy to leave any links you wish to place
in the footer alone. If you can get some pocket money I all for that.
Rgds
Jim Coffey
Ballyholme YAcht Club
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:49:55 +0100
From: Andreas Kaiser <listen@vocote.de>
Subject: Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
Hi Colin,
there is no problem for me to leave all the links on all Sailwave
outputs.
On our sailing club website I've already included the linked sailwave
logo.
--
Regards
Andreas Kaiser mailto:akaiser@vocote.de
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:50:01 -0000
From: "Robinson, Kit" <Kit.Robinson@pilkington.com>
Subject: RE: Sailwave Licence Agreement
Colin
We have no problems at all with recognising Intellectual Property Rights,
and providing links on our website.
Well done on a super product
Regards,
Kit Robinson
V.C. West Lancashire Yacht Club
-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave2 [mailto:sailwave2@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 20 March 2002 09:31
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Sailwave Licence Agreement
I'm thinking of introducing the concept of a licence agreement in
v1.42. All the agreement will say is something to the effect of -
if you press the Agree button you are agreeing to leave the link to
sailwave (and any other links I so choose to include) in the footer
of any published results and agree to include a link to Sailwave on
your web site - if you have one. Also that any templates you create
youself include a link to the same in the results footer.
While I am dedicated in principle to Sailwave remaining a free
resource, It would be nice to get some 'pocket money' back or be able
to barter merchanside in exchange for advertising on the site or
maybe find a main sponsor for the software itself... The idea of the
links in the footer is so that I can demonstrate usage because they
show up in Google searches for example. I currently "request" the
deal in para 1 above on the web site and in the FAQ, but it's
silently denied in a lot of cases...
Any comments from the SUG either way welcome. Seems a small price to
pay for a free Sailwave...?
CJ
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:54:42 -0000
From: "Richard Kingsnorth" <sailing@compass-marquees.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
Colin
I expect that I speak for the entire user group when I say that we are
deeply indebted to you for developing such an excellent program and, more,
for putting up with our winges and ridiculous requests.
Sailwave as a free rescource is invaluable not least in that it removes one
financial argument away from Main Committee! But, if you can make any
income indirectly from the program, of course you must!
Richard Kingsnorth
Bewl Valley Sailing Club
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From: "sailwave2" <sailwave2@yahoo.co.uk>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:31 AM
Subject: [sailwave] Sailwave Licence Agreement
I'm thinking of introducing the concept of a licence agreement in
v1.42. All the agreement will say is something to the effect of -
if you press the Agree button you are agreeing to leave the link to
sailwave (and any other links I so choose to include) in the footer
of any published results and agree to include a link to Sailwave on
your web site - if you have one. Also that any templates you create
youself include a link to the same in the results footer.While I am dedicated in principle to Sailwave remaining a free
resource, It would be nice to get some 'pocket money' back or be able
to barter merchanside in exchange for advertising on the site or
maybe find a main sponsor for the software itself... The idea of the
links in the footer is so that I can demonstrate usage because they
show up in Google searches for example. I currently "request" the
deal in para 1 above on the web site and in the FAQ, but it's
silently denied in a lot of cases...Any comments from the SUG either way welcome. Seems a small price to
pay for a free Sailwave...?CJ
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sailwave
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:17:01 -0000
From: "Shanklin Sailing Club" <shanklinsailingclub@btinternet.com>
Subject: Links
Hi there at Shanklin Sailing Club we already have links to Sailwave and have
had since starting using sailwave before the beginning of last season.
So no probs on that score.
Chris
www.shanklin-sailing-club.co.uk
www.dart15.co.uk
e-mail shanklinsailingclub@btinternet.com
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:36:41 -0000
From: "Mark Jardine" <mark@yachtsandyachting.com>
Subject: Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
I think it is an excellent idea. As you know it is fully linked in from
YachtsandYachting.com and any reports I receive with Sailwave results have a
link to the Sailwave website.
BTW, if anyone wants to send in their regatta results to
YachtsandYachting.com use the plug-in. I will also link to your club or
class website.
Best Regards
Mark
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From: "sailwave2" <sailwave2@yahoo.co.uk>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:31 AM
Subject: [sailwave] Sailwave Licence Agreement
I'm thinking of introducing the concept of a licence agreement in
v1.42. All the agreement will say is something to the effect of -
if you press the Agree button you are agreeing to leave the link to
sailwave (and any other links I so choose to include) in the footer
of any published results and agree to include a link to Sailwave on
your web site - if you have one. Also that any templates you create
youself include a link to the same in the results footer.While I am dedicated in principle to Sailwave remaining a free
resource, It would be nice to get some 'pocket money' back or be able
to barter merchanside in exchange for advertising on the site or
maybe find a main sponsor for the software itself... The idea of the
links in the footer is so that I can demonstrate usage because they
show up in Google searches for example. I currently "request" the
deal in para 1 above on the web site and in the FAQ, but it's
silently denied in a lot of cases...Any comments from the SUG either way welcome. Seems a small price to
pay for a free Sailwave...?CJ
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sailwave
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:41:59 -0000
From: "sailwave2" <sailwave2@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
Hi Richard,
I expect that I speak for the entire user group when I say that we
are
deeply indebted to you for developing such an excellent program
and, more,
for putting up with our winges and ridiculous requests.
Sailwave as a free rescource is invaluable not least in that it
removes one
financial argument away from Main Committee! But, if you can make
any
income indirectly from the program, of course you must!
I am in turn indebted to the SUG members for the feedback and ideas;
Sailwave is driven more and more by the SUG these days.
To All,
Thanks for the responses.
I've just realised that my previous message may be giving out the
wrong signals - it wasn't SUG/Mailing-List members I was thinking
about, rather those that download - don't join either the mailing
list or the SUG - use it - publish results and *deliberately* lop off
the sailwave references (I *do* understand that they are often lost
by accident). This is the use I was attempting to target with the
agreement and wondered if the SUG thought it a resonable way forward
or if anybody thought would significantly hinder the use of
Sailwave.
Can I dig this hole any deeper...
Regards,
Colin
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:27:41 EST
From: wmriggng@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
Colin,
I speak for everyone at Cataeba Yacht Club when I say that this program is a
great tool. We haven't moved any links and would be willing to place any
banners you may have on numerous pages within our site.
Great Job! Great Support!
Bill Wiggins
Scoring
Catawba Yacht Club
www.catawbayc.org
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:07:55 -0400
From: "Rebecca Blanco" <rblanco@prtc.net>
Subject: RE: Sailwave Licence Agreement
Dear Colin:
I agree with Richard. Although I love free stuff I know you spend
many hours of your valuble time with Sailwave and all of us. The product
being
one super rating program, making all of our jobs alot easier. You
deffenetely should
make money out of it. Alot of worse scoring programs do. My club(Club
Nautico de
Puerto Rico) will be more than willing to compensate you.
The licence agreement is not a bad idea. Sailwave is your intelectual
property.
I know the people from my website still hasn't added your link. I talk to
them on monday ordering it as urgent. I'll be nagging them till they get it
done.
The scores I handed out at the regatta did have your link at the last page.
Saludos,
R.
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Kingsnorth [mailto:sailing@compass-marquees.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 5:55 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Sailwave Licence Agreement
Colin
I expect that I speak for the entire user group when I say that we are
deeply indebted to you for developing such an excellent program and, more,
for putting up with our winges and ridiculous requests.
Sailwave as a free rescource is invaluable not least in that it removes one
financial argument away from Main Committee! But, if you can make any
income indirectly from the program, of course you must!
Richard Kingsnorth
Bewl Valley Sailing Club
----- Original Message -----
From: "sailwave2" <sailwave2@yahoo.co.uk>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:31 AM
Subject: [sailwave] Sailwave Licence Agreement
I'm thinking of introducing the concept of a licence agreement in
v1.42. All the agreement will say is something to the effect of -
if you press the Agree button you are agreeing to leave the link to
sailwave (and any other links I so choose to include) in the footer
of any published results and agree to include a link to Sailwave on
your web site - if you have one. Also that any templates you create
youself include a link to the same in the results footer.While I am dedicated in principle to Sailwave remaining a free
resource, It would be nice to get some 'pocket money' back or be able
to barter merchanside in exchange for advertising on the site or
maybe find a main sponsor for the software itself... The idea of the
links in the footer is so that I can demonstrate usage because they
show up in Google searches for example. I currently "request" the
deal in para 1 above on the web site and in the FAQ, but it's
silently denied in a lot of cases...Any comments from the SUG either way welcome. Seems a small price to
pay for a free Sailwave...?CJ
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:57:05 EST
From: fredwelker@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
GO FOR IT! We all try to do it anyway, why shouldn't you get paid for it!
Keep up the great work!
Fred E. Welker
Lauderdale Yacht Club, Fort Lauderdale, Florida
web: LYC.org
email: fredwelker@aol.com
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:35:56 -0800
From: "David Ferguson" <dave@fergusonsnw.com>
Subject: Re: Sailwave Licence Agreement
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