Colin,
Thanks for replies.
You have a lot of "to do`s" can you list them so perhaps we, your faithful
disciples, could suggest priorities?
Regards
Geoff Town
Scorekeeper
Broxbourne Sailing Club.
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1. v1.50 uploaded + word/excel
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2. pre-releases
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3. RE: Units for elapsed time?
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
4. RE: Re: Anomaly on eWin beta 1.47
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
5. RE: Re: Having a pool of ROs using Sailwave - integrity of series
data
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
6. RE: new to program, need help
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
7. RE: Comments from Sailwave Testing 1.47b7
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
8. RE: IMS Scoring
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
9. RE: CSV input
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
10. RE: Qualification
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
11. RE: Help
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
12. RE:
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
13. RE: Sailwave results display
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
14. RE: FW: Sailwave query 1.47 Beta 8: OOD
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
15. RE: Background images
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
16. 1.51 pre release
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:37:43 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: v1.50 uploaded + word/excelHi,
v1.50 has been uploaded. The only change is the addition of a Team 15
team-ranking table plug-in.PS: by far the biggest complaint I get (well, apart from no help file) is
the fact that I removed the dedicated publish-to-word/excel capability.
The reason I removed these is because not everybody uses word/excel, and
so
it was generalised to a publish-to-this-program capability; same
functionality but a little more difficult to use. However given the
quantity of feedback, I'll put the original hard-wired features back by
they
appear on a different tab called publish to a specific program of
something;
may well be user-extensible and/or may well not appear if word/excel are
not
installed. I'll do this for 1.51.
Please note however that Sailwave knows *nothing* about Excel/Word - it
just
creates a HTML file and opens it with Word/Excel; a better solution is to
work on the style sheets to get Sailwave to product exactly what is needed
to edit. If you are finding you have to edit in Excel/Word (or by hand
etc), please send an email to the group pointing at an example on the web
so
we can try and minimise this; I suspect much of it can be done by editing
the templates/style sheets.NB: I am gradually getting through my Inbox after a busy period of real
work, but some 140 emails are still outstanding; apologies for the delay
(as
usual) if you are waiting for a reply.
Regards,
Colin J
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:00:25 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: pre-releasesthe Sailwave on-line version history now contains a link to the latest
snapshot of the build in progress; install at your own risk; useful to get
bug fixes early etc; i.e. before they hit the download page.CJ
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:59:06 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: Units for elapsed time?> I note that Sailwave accepts ':' and '.' as delimiters for elapsed
> time, and that an elapsed time of, for example, "01.30.89" can be
> entered.
>
> What units are being used here - decimal minutes, or seconds? Is
> there any difference in the way that Sailwave interprets the figure,
> depending on the delimiter entered?Whatever delimiter is being used the units are always hours minutes and
seconds. The RRS do not allow fractions of seconds in fact.Regards,
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:59:16 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: Re: Anomaly on eWin beta 1.47Michael,
> Ah, right I understand it now.
>
> how easy is it to modify a results template so I can explain that
> on the results sheet, I
> can foresee a few competitors getting as confused as i wasIf you know HTML it's easy. Copy results.htm from sailwave\templates to
sailwave\my templates and then add some text to the template in the
appropriate place.Regards,
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:59:19 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: Re: Having a pool of ROs using Sailwave - integrity of series
data
Michael,
> ideally there should be an admin who sets the series up and can
> password protect the
> series details and each race. The OOD can then only enter info
> the races they are
> involved in.
>It's on the todo list.
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:02:05 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: new to program, need help> Hello Colin and all, greetings from Torndao Alley Sailng Club in
> Memphis, TN, USA.
>
> First the questions:
> 1) Is there a way to only score the races competed and not 1+all for
> DNS?Edit+ScoringSystem -> Codes -> DNS amd set the method to points for number
of races + N.> 2) To auto-calculate and include in results the participation %?
Good idea; added to todo list.
> 3) To adjust that percentage for RC duty?
>Sorry, not quite sure what you mean.
> Why these would help:
> We are a trailering club racing under Portsmouth with wind
> handicapping for two series per year (7-8 meetings over three
> months each series).
>
> We use the alternate low-point scoring system (USSailing AA
> prescription). In this version, the competitor is scored on an
> average of the races sailed (no score or penalty for DNS).
>
> We require 60% participation in all races sailed to qualify for
> series honors. We account for members rotating through RC duty by
> deducting the number of races served from the total number of races
> competed so that service does not affect participation percentage.
>
> I've had the program for a month now and have tried to set it up to
> our requirements and test it against past results. I've found some
> of the utilities needed, and I've searched past posts, but am stuck
> with regard to the questions above.
>
> Thanks for any help.You can use the qualification profile to force that requirement.
Regards,
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:02:08 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: Comments from Sailwave Testing 1.47b7Hi Mike,
> Here a few of the points that have been brought up. Note that these
> come across as negative but, on the whole, we've found it both easy
> and quick to use.
>
> Scoring system - discussed previously as we use High PointHigh point available now - but not Cox S.
> In published results, we don't have an option to drop certain
> columns in the series summary. For example, the default rating
> displayed is a bit confusing on a Performance Handicap series where
> every race has a different handicap. The fleet column isn't really
> needed in our case either.
>You should be able to hide the fleet column in the main view which is also
dropped when publishing...> A couple of columns can't be renamed: Ewin and Rwin. We actually
> call Rwin "BCH" which is Back Calculated Handicap.
>OK, I'll jhave to think about that.
> For race specific ratings, after entering one, it immediately goes
> back to the default view of Recorded Results. When you have 20
> boats, this gets a bit irritating. I understand why it has been
> done that way but it would be useful to make this feature optional
> somehow.OK (todo list)
> We actually set up our fleets and classes in a relatively strange
> way. This is a big boat thing where a fleet is a division and a
> class is a design. You igrnore the class and score based on fleets
> which are handicap rules (eg IRC fleet/AMS fleet). Given this, we
> would find a multiple sort very useful. So sorting by fleet and
> then by sail number or yacht would be good.OK (todo list)
> An observation only - when importing, if you have a DNC in the
> finish time, it treats it like 24:00:00. There is an import
> field "Code" that DNCs have to go into. This is slightly different
> from the sail number wizard so got caught out first time but
> understand now.It should handle that I guess; I'll fix it.
Regards,
Colin
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:02:35 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: IMS ScoringHi,
> I just got a copy of this program, as a novice user, I can not seem
> to find how to score races using IMS...is this possible? how do i do
> it?IMS is not integrated yet. You can do 'simple' IMS using the custom
rating
system. I have a lot of info from Mike Gill WRT IMS and will implement
ASAP...Regards,
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:03:00 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: CSV inputNot at present - I'm gradually working away on the concept of 'starts' -
bit
like 'fleets' but define how the boats sailed, wheres fleets will define
how
the boats are scored. Presently 'fleets' covers both and fails.
CJ
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> Subject: [sailwave] CSV input
>
>
> Colin
> When importing the competitor finish times in a CSV file, I would
> like to be
> able to preset the Race No, and preset the Start Time of each
> fleet in that
> race. This way the CSV file would only need to contain Sail No, and
Finish
> Time, or at least plus the preset info just once in a header.
> This would make it even quicker to input the results of a large
> multi fleet
> event.
> Any ideas?
> John
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:02:53 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: QualificationHi Geoff,
> Could you please slow down the pop-up for `qualification` in
> `scoring system`as it does not appear for a long enough time for
> me to read it, or could you repeat it in the newsgroup?The popup delay etc is controlled by windows but I've never been able to
find the setting - perhaps somebody else knows.here is the text.
discards profile:-
"A comma separated list of discards when 1,2,3,4
etc races have been sailed; e.g. 0,0,0,1,1,2,2.
The last value is used if the number of races
sailed is greater then the number of entries in the
profile. Alternatively the discard profile can be
defined by an expression. Use s for the number
of races sailed and r for the number of races in
the series; e.g. s/2+1. The result of the
expression is truncated to the nearest whole
number and represents the number of discards."Qualification profile:-
"Only needed if your SIs specify that competitors
must sail N races to qualify for a series. A comma
separated list of number of races needed to
qualify for the series when 1,2,3,4 etc races
have been sailed; e.g. 1,2,3,3,4,4,5,5. The last
value is used if the number of races sailed is
greater then the number of entries in the profile.
Alternatively the qualification profile can be
defined by an expression. Use s for the number
of races sailed and r for the number of races in
the series."Regards,
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:03:04 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: Helpand then go to the rating files section
Regards,
Colin J
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> From: st4u_uk [mailto:st4u_uk@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: 17 August 2003 19:19
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Help
>
>
> I have just discovered sailwave, and i think it looks good, so i
> downlaoded it, and was playing with it, how do you get the program
> to load the ratings for the UK PY so u can select the boat and its
> rating, i am a member of Upper Tamar Lakes sailing club, and i would
> be interested in using this for the racing results,
>
> please could you help me start up and get the stuff loaded, thankyou!
>
> Tim
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:13:27 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE:Hi Norm,
>
> I must be missing something somewhere, but why is it nothing happens
> when I select "rating needed to win"/"elapsed change to win"? Regards
> Norm
>If these options are checked you see columns for them in the race detail
tables when publishing; seems to work OK.Regards,
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:20:58 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: Sailwave results displayHi Pierre,
> Entering elapsed time 04:05:40 and laps 10, the result cell is
> displayed as
> 04:05:40/1 and not 04:O5:40/10.Thanks, fixed. Only happens on-screen - will be OK in the published
results.Regards,
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:28:06 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: FW: Sailwave query 1.47 Beta 8: OODHi James,
> We hold various series over the year that have qualification criteria
> based both on a minimum number of races sailed AND the need to do at
> least one OOD duty (which scores average points for races sailed by that
> competitor). Any idea how I set up the OOD scoring and qualification
> criteria to do this?
>As it stands I can't see a way to do it. You can do them both
separately -
set up OOD for average points and set up a Q requirement - but there is no
way to force a competitor to have to have an OOD in their results. It
would
be easy (generalised to a list of codes that must be present) to do if it
was a common enough requirement.Regards,
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 23:03:21 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: Background imagesHi Geoff,
>
> Since downloading 1.47 beta 8 I have lost the background images,
> where file should they be in?You can specify a background image from Tools+GlobalOptions - I just
removed
the default one 'cos it was irritating folk...
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 23:05:47 +0100
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: 1.51 pre releaseThere is a pre-release installation file for 1.51 at
www.sailwave.com/binary/sw151.exe that contains a new plug-in for getting
team results. Feedback welcome. I need to add more generic fields (Like
Team) so that it's not limited to nat/club/class and fleet.Regards,
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