[sailwave] Digest Number 604

Colin,
Thanks to all for their suggestions, none were suitable but they made my
grey cells work. My solution appears to work for my requirement and is to
not use the sail number in the <sail number > field of the competitor field
but just use his name. What made me realise this was remembering that the
computer does not care whether it deals with numbers or characters or
symbols.
Anyway it appears to work and I could just enter the last three characters
of the name , the full name appears and the results appear with the helm`s
name in the sail number column and I just change the column name from sail
number to name and visa versa.
I needed this for Travellers and Handicap series where the helm can use
whichever boat for the series and it his name not the boat that counts,
Cheers,
Geoff

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There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. RE: Fw: Result entry
           From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
      2. Re: Digest Number 603
           From: "Keith Lomax" <keithlomax@dsl.pipex.com>
      3. re - Result Entry
           From: "Malcolm Osborne" <malcolmo@telkomsa.net>
      4. RE: re - Result Entry
           From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
      5. RE: re - Result Entry
           From: "Richard Gunn" <richard@gunn.me.uk>
      6. Results
           From: "town1934.freeserve.co.uk" <geoff@town1934.freeserve.co.uk>
      7. RE: Results
           From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
      8. sailno wizard
           From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
      9. RE: sailno wizard
           From: "Mike Croker" <mdcroker@which.net>
     10. RE: sailno wizard
           From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
     11. RE: sailno wizard
           From: "Richard Gunn" <richard@gunn.me.uk>
     12. RE: sailno wizard
           From: "Mike Croker" <mdcroker@which.net>
     13. Re: sailno wizard
           From: James Harrell <jay.harrell@riverside.net>
     14. RE: sailno wizard
           From: Will Gordon <rewillg@optonline.net>
     15. dev plan
           From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
     16. RE: sailno wizard
           From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>

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Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:58:07 -0000
   From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: Fw: Result entry

>Hi Colin,
I had a question about scoring a boat in a series changing rating part

way

through. Do I have to score this by entering the boat as a new competitor
and calculate manually?
Thanks for the great work! We're enjoying using Sailwave here in Deep

Cove,

British Columbia, near Vancouver.
Malcolm Chaddock
Deep Cove Yacht Club Scorer<

No, if you added a new competitor record, it would get scored as a new
competitor. Just double click on the result cell that marks the point at
which the new boats is used and enter a race-spcific rating value. When
viewing the series you can choose to see all race specific ratings to

check

they all look sensible (from the "viewing" drop down).

You could also change the class to something like "Laser/Finn" or

something.

Regards,
Colin
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Message: 2
   Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 19:01:01 -0000
   From: "Keith Lomax" <keithlomax@dsl.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 603

Please cancel current subscription to sailwave as this member is now
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Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:54 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Digest Number 603

>
> There are 4 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Fw: Result entry
> From: "town1934.freeserve.co.uk"
<geoff@town1934.freeserve.co.uk>
> 2. RE: Fw: Result entry
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> 3. FW: Fw: Result entry
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> 4. RE: Fw: Result entry
> From: Malcolm Chaddock <malcolmchaddock@shaw.ca>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:43:38 -0000
> From: "town1934.freeserve.co.uk" <geoff@town1934.freeserve.co.uk>
> Subject: Fw: Result entry
>
> I could not find a response to the following, help please, or did I

miss

it?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: town1934.freeserve.co.uk
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:42 AM
> Subject: Result entry
>
>
> 1. Is it possible to enter results and score by helms name?
>
> 2. I had the answer to this but lost it; how does "qualification

profile

work" the `hover` disappears too quickly for my aged brain!
>
> Version 1.50
> Cheers,
> Geoff
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:07:28 -0000
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> Subject: RE: Fw: Result entry
>
> Hi Geoff,
>
> >1. Is it possible to enter results and score by helms name?
>
> Sailwave will score each 'competitot' you enter for a series. That
> competitor can represent anything you like; usually a specific helm/boat
> combinatiion but just helm would work as well. If you're running

handicap

> races and a helm sails different boats you would need to set a
race-specific
> rating for that race. Sailwave does not reconcile results across more
than
> one competitor record.
>
> > 2. I had the answer to this but lost it; how does "qualification
profile
> work" the `hover` disappears too quickly for my aged brain!<
>
> "Only needed if your SIs specify that competitors
> must sail N races to qualify for a series. A comma
> separated list of number of races needed to
> qualify for the series when 1,2,3,4 etc races
> completed etc; e.g. 0,0,0,1,1,1,1,2,2. The last
> value is used if the number of races sailed is
> greater then the number of entries in the profile.
> Alternatively the qualification profile can be
> defined by an expression. Use s for the number
> of races sailed and r for the number of races in
> the series."
>
> Regards,
> Colin J
> www.sailwave.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:08:07 -0000
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> Subject: FW: Fw: Result entry
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: 25 February 2004 13:07
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] Fw: Result entry
>
>
> Hi Geoff,
>
> >1. Is it possible to enter results and score by helms name?
>
> Sailwave will score each 'competitot' you enter for a series. That
> competitor can represent anything you like; usually a specific helm/boat
> combinatiion but just helm would work as well. If you're running

handicap

> races and a helm sails different boats you would need to set a
race-specific
> rating for that race. Sailwave does not reconcile results across more
than
> one competitor record.
>
> > 2. I had the answer to this but lost it; how does "qualification
profile
> work" the `hover` disappears too quickly for my aged brain!<
>
> "Only needed if your SIs specify that competitors
> must sail N races to qualify for a series. A comma
> separated list of number of races needed to
> qualify for the series when 1,2,3,4 etc races
> completed etc; e.g. 0,0,0,1,1,1,1,2,2. The last
> value is used if the number of races sailed is
> greater then the number of entries in the profile.
> Alternatively the qualification profile can be
> defined by an expression. Use s for the number
> of races sailed and r for the number of races in
> the series."
>
> Regards,
> Colin J
> www.sailwave.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:38:23 -0800
> From: Malcolm Chaddock <malcolmchaddock@shaw.ca>
> Subject: RE: Fw: Result entry
>
>
>
> Hi Colin,
> I had a question about scoring a boat in a series changing rating part
way
> through. Do I have to score this by entering the boat as a new

competitor

> and calculate manually?
> Thanks for the great work! We're enjoying using Sailwave here in Deep
Cove,
> British Columbia, near Vancouver.
> Malcolm Chaddock
> Deep Cove Yacht Club Scorer
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Message: 3
   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 00:11:16 +0200
   From: "Malcolm Osborne" <malcolmo@telkomsa.net>
Subject: re - Result Entry

Isn't what Geoff is getting at is that Sail Number Wizard can't be used

for

entering results by helm's name.

In this case results have to be entered by right clicking on the race cell
for each entrant and selecting edit result. If you do this in finishing
order sequence, the position number increments itself - handy!

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: 25 February 2004 13:07
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Fw: Result entry

Hi Geoff,

>1. Is it possible to enter results and score by helms name?

Sailwave will score each 'competitot' you enter for a series. That
competitor can represent anything you like; usually a specific helm/boat
combinatiion but just helm would work as well. If you're running handicap
races and a helm sails different boats you would need to set a

race-specific

rating for that race. Sailwave does not reconcile results across more

than

one competitor record.

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Message: 4
   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 08:20:44 -0000
   From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: re - Result Entry

Hi Malcom,

Yes, that's more likely - I seemed to fixate on the "and score by" part.
I'll do somrhin in the 'SailNo' wizard so that it becomes a 'this field'
wizard.

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Malcolm Osborne [mailto:malcolmo@telkomsa.net]
Sent: 25 February 2004 22:11
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] re - Result Entry

Isn't what Geoff is getting at is that Sail Number Wizard can't be used

for

entering results by helm's name.

In this case results have to be entered by right clicking on the race cell
for each entrant and selecting edit result. If you do this in finishing
order sequence, the position number increments itself - handy!

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: 25 February 2004 13:07
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Fw: Result entry

Hi Geoff,

>1. Is it possible to enter results and score by helms name?

Sailwave will score each 'competitot' you enter for a series. That
competitor can represent anything you like; usually a specific helm/boat
combinatiion but just helm would work as well. If you're running handicap
races and a helm sails different boats you would need to set a

race-specific

rating for that race. Sailwave does not reconcile results across more

than

one competitor record.

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Message: 5
   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:04:11 -0000
   From: "Richard Gunn" <richard@gunn.me.uk>
Subject: RE: re - Result Entry

That would be very useful.

Regards,

Richard Gunn

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: 26 February 2004 08:21
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] re - Result Entry

Hi Malcom,

Yes, that's more likely - I seemed to fixate on the "and score by" part.
I'll do somrhin in the 'SailNo' wizard so that it becomes a 'this field'
wizard.

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Malcolm Osborne [mailto:malcolmo@telkomsa.net]
Sent: 25 February 2004 22:11
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] re - Result Entry

Isn't what Geoff is getting at is that Sail Number Wizard can't be used

for

entering results by helm's name.

In this case results have to be entered by right clicking on the race cell
for each entrant and selecting edit result. If you do this in finishing
order sequence, the position number increments itself - handy!

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: 25 February 2004 13:07
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Fw: Result entry

Hi Geoff,

>1. Is it possible to enter results and score by helms name?

Sailwave will score each 'competitot' you enter for a series. That
competitor can represent anything you like; usually a specific helm/boat
combinatiion but just helm would work as well. If you're running handicap
races and a helm sails different boats you would need to set a

race-specific

rating for that race. Sailwave does not reconcile results across more

than

one competitor record.

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Message: 6
   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:45:44 -0000
   From: "town1934.freeserve.co.uk" <geoff@town1934.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Results

Colin,
Perhaps my question was not written clearly by me, as far as I can see I

can only enter results by sail number as in F12 although it says otherwise.
I know I can score by helm but how can I enter by helm`s name?

I am dealing with a series in the same class/PN but the helm is sailing

different sail different numbered boats,

Cheers,
Geoff

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Message: 7
   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:51:26 -0000
   From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: Results

Hi Geoff,

Yes. Malcolm has already pointed out my error; my apologies; see my

response

to him. When you say "although it says otherwise" what do you mean; I

need

to tweak something if it's causing confusion.

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

-----Original Message-----
From: town1934.freeserve.co.uk [mailto:geoff@town1934.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: 26 February 2004 09:46
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Results

Colin,
Perhaps my question was not written clearly by me, as far as I can see I

can

only enter results by sail number as in F12 although it says otherwise. I
know I can score by helm but how can I enter by helm`s name?
I am dealing with a series in the same class/PN but the helm is sailing
different sail different numbered boats,
Cheers,
Geoff

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Message: 8
   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:07:33 -0000
   From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: sailno wizard

Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'

wizard.

My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against those
sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

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Message: 9
   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:08:42 -0000
   From: "Mike Croker" <mdcroker@which.net>
Subject: RE: sailno wizard

Colin
In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class), or
S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap

between

sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking.

Hence

one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody)

more

ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
Regards
Mike Croker
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  From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
  Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard

  Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
  explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
  My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
  water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against

those

  sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
  name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

  Regards,
  Colin J
  www.sailwave.com

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Message: 10
   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:17:31 -0000
   From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: sailno wizard

Hi Mike,

OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail number

as

"1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help? It
means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and results
with Sailwave sorting things out later.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

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From: Mike Croker [mailto:mdcroker@which.net]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Colin
In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class), or
S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap

between

sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking.

Hence

one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody)

more

ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
Regards
Mike Croker
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
  Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard

  Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
  explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
  My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
  water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against

those

  sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
  name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

  Regards,
  Colin J
  www.sailwave.com

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Message: 11
   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:29:53 -0000
   From: "Richard Gunn" <richard@gunn.me.uk>
Subject: RE: sailno wizard

I agree with this view, sail numbers are fine for 99% of the time. It is
just that, if you were going to change the wizard, I would make it work on
any field rather than just add helm names (although that would be the most
likely one to use). To be honest, it is fine as is.

Regards,

Richard Gunn

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:18
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Hi Mike,

OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail number

as

"1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help? It
means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and results
with Sailwave sorting things out later.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Croker [mailto:mdcroker@which.net]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Colin
In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class), or
S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap

between

sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking.

Hence

one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody)

more

ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
Regards
Mike Croker
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  From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
  Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard

  Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
  explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
  My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
  water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against

those

  sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
  name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

  Regards,
  Colin J
  www.sailwave.com

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Message: 12
   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:03:25 -0000
   From: "Mike Croker" <mdcroker@which.net>
Subject: RE: sailno wizard

I agree with Richard that it is fine as it is, although Colin's suggestion
would have saved me some grief last season.
Now what about those sailors that swap boats within a given class.......
Leave it as it is!
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Gunn [mailto:richard@gunn.me.uk]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:30
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

I agree with this view, sail numbers are fine for 99% of the time. It is
just that, if you were going to change the wizard, I would make it work on
any field rather than just add helm names (although that would be the most
likely one to use). To be honest, it is fine as is.

Regards,

Richard Gunn

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:18
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Hi Mike,

OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail number

as

"1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help? It
means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and results
with Sailwave sorting things out later.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

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From: Mike Croker [mailto:mdcroker@which.net]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Colin
In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class), or
S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap

between

sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking.

Hence

one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody)

more

ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
Regards
Mike Croker
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  From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
  Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard

  Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
  explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
  My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
  water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against

those

  sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
  name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

  Regards,
  Colin J
  www.sailwave.com

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Message: 13
   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 11:38:34 -0500
   From: James Harrell <jay.harrell@riverside.net>
Subject: Re: sailno wizard

Colin,

Yes, our club records helm and elapsed time on the water. We typically
have few enough boats racing that the RC knows everyone by name.

But this isn't a problem for me in sailwave - I simply put the helm name
and boat type in the sailnumber field (ie. "Duncan CAT22"). Then when
entering results I can type the first few characters of the name and it
pulls up the rest automatically. Works great as-is for me.

Jay
www.osyc.net
Proud Sailwave sponsor www.riverside.net

At 03:07 PM 2/26/2004 +0000, Colin Jenkins wrote:
>Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
>explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'

wizard.

>My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
>water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against those
>sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
>name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

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Message: 14
   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:16:31 -0500
   From: Will Gordon <rewillg@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: sailno wizard

We have a couple of boats that have "used" sails and have different

numbers

on the main and jib. Illegal, I know, but we don't worry about it in club
races. Allowing a number like 1064,10665 would solve the problem for us
since some r/c's record the jib number and others record the number on the
main. But it's not a big deal if it would screw up anything else.

Thanks.

Will Gordon
(cycscorer)
-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:18 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Hi Mike,

OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail number

as

"1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help? It
means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and results
with Sailwave sorting things out later.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Croker [mailto:mdcroker@which.net]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Colin
In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class), or
S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap

between

sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking.

Hence

one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody)

more

ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
Regards
Mike Croker
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
  Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard

  Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
  explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
  My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
  water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against

those

  sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
  name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

  Regards,
  Colin J
  www.sailwave.com

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Message: 15
   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:24:06 -0000
   From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: dev plan

Here is a link to the updated dev plan on Sailwave-Net.

If I've promised something and missed it out please tell me. Please feel
free to suggest more additions for the 'ratings/points systems' release.

http://sailwave.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=5#5

Regards,
Colin J
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PS: I've negotiated with my wife to devote the whole of this weekend to
Sailwave; not a screwdriver in sight. Hopefully I'll complete 1.52 and get
some way into 1.53.

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Message: 16
   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:28:05 -0000
   From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: sailno wizard

It's a small tweak that I'll include in 1.52 this weekend
CJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Will Gordon [mailto:rewillg@optonline.net]
Sent: 26 February 2004 17:17
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

We have a couple of boats that have "used" sails and have different

numbers

on the main and jib. Illegal, I know, but we don't worry about it in club
races. Allowing a number like 1064,10665 would solve the problem for us
since some r/c's record the jib number and others record the number on the
main. But it's not a big deal if it would screw up anything else.

Thanks.

Will Gordon
(cycscorer)
-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:18 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Hi Mike,

OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail number

as

"1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help? It
means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and results
with Sailwave sorting things out later.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Croker [mailto:mdcroker@which.net]
Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard

Colin
In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class), or
S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap

between

sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking.

Hence

one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody)

more

ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
Regards
Mike Croker
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
  Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard

  Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
  explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
  My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
  water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against

those

  sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
  name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?

  Regards,
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  www.sailwave.com

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Geoff,

Thanks to all for their suggestions, none were suitable but they made my

grey cells work. My solution appears to work for my requirement and is to
not use the sail number in the <sail number > field of the competitor field
but just use his name.<

Two or three people did suggest that...

CJ

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