Colin,
Are you going to the Dinghy Exhibition, I am sure some of us would like to
meet you face to face as we only see your words, you might even get a free
drink!
Perhaps next year we could have a discussion group there?
I am there on the Flying 15 stand most of the time,
Cheers,
Geoff
···
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To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 5:35 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Digest Number 605
There are 11 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. RE: Getting wind index TOT c= to work
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
2. RE: PBH rating
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
3. Excluded boats
From: Zeff_Wheelock@harvardpilgrim.org
4. PBH
From: "Gil" <gvick@informnet.com>
5. Re: Digest Number 604
From: "Geno DellaMattia" <genodm@yahoo.com>
6. Re: re - Result Entry
From: Peter Bennett <peterbb@interchange.ubc.ca>
7. RE: Digest Number 604
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
8. Re: Digest Number 604
From: "town1934.freeserve.co.uk" <geoff@town1934.freeserve.co.uk>
9. RE: Digest Number 604
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
10. Locales
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
11. locales again
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 18:19:26 -0000
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: Getting wind index TOT c= to workHi Bette,
>Good morning,
I've got c= e*A/B+r in the TOT custom scoring page, plus I put in 3 sets
of
A values separated by comma's and 3 sets of B values separated by commas,
and 3 sets of wind speeds (commas again). But my "Test" shows that I have
a
calculation error so it uses zero.
\Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? <One thing to check is that the formulas you entered don't have the "c="
part
in them. Other than that I don't know. Can you send me the series so
that
I can have a look at it.
Regards,
Colin J
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 18:26:17 -0000
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: PBH ratingHi Greg,
>Thanks for your response. I tried your formula (c=e+r*60) but I am
still getting an error message. It says "Corrected time is being
evaluated
as 0" . See Attachment.<
Make sure the c= part is not part of the formula. Other then that send me
the series and I'll have a look at it for you.>I have been reading all the other emails on the site. For a lot of
reasons,
I prefer the rating needed to win system that others are using to
calculate
a PBH. I notice that many clubs use the average of this rating over three
races to calculate their PBH in a spread sheet. Are there any plans to
incorporate the spread sheet function into sailwave ie. automatically
calculate the average rating needed to win over the previous three(or any
number) races and insert in into the "override with" rating box? This
would
provide an excellent PBH rating and scoring system in one. I will be
trying
to convince our club to change to this system next season. In this case I
would not need to worry about the custom formula.
The current sailwave program was terrific with our last regatta. It was
worth having just for that. I am still anticipating becoming a sponsor
because as the handicapper and scorer, I can see the value in this
program.
I will let you know how I get on.
Thanks again.<There is a PH release planned but it's some way down the line at it
stands.
I'll think about the BCH method and see if I can do somehting sooner. See
www.sailwave.com for dev plan.Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <gmrlbrown@shoal.net.au>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:58 PM
Subject: [sailwave] PBH rating> Hi Greg
>
> > We use a simple whole minute system where we
> > add (or subtract) the PBH to/from the
> > elapsed time to get a result.
>
> The board ate your attachment so I can't see you formula but if I
understand
> you correctly, the formula would be something like:-
>
> e + r*60
>
> Where the rating values are in minutes and signed. Thu multiplication
by
60
> is needed because at the point the rating system is evaluated, all times
are
> in seconds. On your other point, I'm not sure I understand it as in my
head
> (which is iften wonky) one records finish times or positions but not
both.
> Can you explain further.
>
> Regards,
> Colin Jenkins
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: greg brown [mailto:gmrlbrown@shoal.net.au]
> Sent: 06 January 2004 12:19
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: disaster
>
>
> Hello Collin,
> I am sorry to hear about the problems you are having
> with the development computer for sail wave. First off, please let me
> introduce myself and the club. I am involved with a small trailer
sailer
> club on the South Coast of NSW in Australia. (About 200 ks south of
> Sydney). We race on St Georges Basin adjacent Jervis Bay. Most of our
> members have retired from the workforce. (average age is about 65, our
> oldest is 80). We only have about 20 boats on our books with normal
fleet
> sizes from 8 to 14. We don't have a club house or rescue boat and rely
on
> the genorosity on some of the members to assist with these needs with a
> private boat and water front property for social gatherings after the
races.
> Given that most of our members are aged, our races are cancelled when
wind
> strengths exceed 25 kts. We usually loose half of our races before
> christmas when we experience frequent 25 kt north easters.
> I have recently been given the task of handicaper and scorer. This can
be
a
> painful experience trying to do it all the old fashion way especially
for
a
> regatta. I was trying to set up an Excel spreadsheet to assist when I
was
> told about your program. I have had a quick look at your program and I
am
> very impressed with what you have done so far. I still have a little
bit
to
> learn on getting the most out of the program. eg. I am currently
trying
to
> work out how to include PBH results by using the custom formula. We use
a
> simple whole minute system where we add (or subtract) the PBH to/from
the
> elapsed time to get a result. Unfortunately I cant get the program to
> recognise the formula. I have attached a screen print of the formula I
have
> atempted to use. Essentially I was hoping to be able to use this
program
to
> record all starting and finishing times, and positions. When I publish
the
> results, I would like to include the times. I cant do this if I select
a
> position.
> Can the program cater for this type of PBH?
> I know a handicapping capability is not currently included but is there
any
> intention to include this capability in the future?
> I think you have done an excellent job on this program so far and it
seems
> to work exceptionally well for CBH racing but unfortunately most of our
> races are based on a PBH. I am going to trial the program with our
regatta
> next weekend. When I fully understand the workings of the program and
the
> benefits to the club, I will discuss with the committee, the possibility
of
> a donation to assist with further development .
> I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for the opportunity
to
> trial your program and will pass it on to other clubs on our area. Many
of
> the other visiting club members will see it in action as I am hoping to
have
> a lap top set up in the officials tent.
> If you know of any handicapping programs that will work in well with
your
> program, please let me know. Hope to hear from you soon.
>
> Regards
> Greg
>
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> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:54 AM
> Subject: [sailwave] Re: disaster
>
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> > it's worse than that. the backbups seem to be corrupted. as it
> > stands sailwave doesn't exist in a development form; i may have to
> > start again... happy xmas. cj.
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:30:36 -0500
From: Zeff_Wheelock@harvardpilgrim.org
Subject: Excluded boatsQuestion: We have a sailing series which a boat is being sailed by the
staff of the sailing club I
belong to. Their boat does not count towards the series scores. Any
competitor who is DNC , DNF ,
DNS gets the number of boats sailing or registered except the staff boat +
the appropriate points
(DNC: Registered + 2 , DNS: Sailing + 2 DNF: Sailing + 1) The staff boat
is not counted as a
registered or a sailing boat. I have been using a made up code which I
manually enter the points.
I cannot adjust the points awarded for each code since another fleet is
scored along with the first
fleet and that would mess up their scoring (If I had DNC be Registered + 1
to discount the staff
boat, it would mess up the second fleet scoring). Is there a way to allow
for the scoring of a boat
in a race without having the boat be one of the competitors or registered?
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 22:55:09 -0000
From: "Gil" <gvick@informnet.com>
Subject: PBHCan anyone point me to links for the PBH system?
Just curious how it works and how much work it is to manage and how
to write it into the SI....Gil
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________Message: 5
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:56:25 -0800
From: "Geno DellaMattia" <genodm@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 604>
> Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
> explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
> My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
> water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against
those
> sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
> name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?A lot of boats in our club races don't have sail numbers so we input the
boat name in the sail number field to get the sail number wizard to work.
It would be nice to still have the sail numbers listed on those boats that
have them though.Also, I notice that a tie in a race has both boats scoring the points for
the position they scored - eg. Two boats tie for second place they each
get
2 points. Unless I've missed a rule change somewhere, should't each boat
get 2.5 points as per Appendix A 7 ("the points for the place for which
the
boats have tied and for the place(s) immediately below shall be added
together and divided equally")?________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________Message: 6
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:56:29 -0800
From: Peter Bennett <peterbb@interchange.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: re - Result EntryHello Malcolm,
Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 2:11:16 PM, you wrote:
> Isn't what Geoff is getting at is that Sail Number Wizard can't be used
for
> entering results by helm's name.
> In this case results have to be entered by right clicking on the race
cell
> for each entrant and selecting edit result. If you do this in finishing
> order sequence, the position number increments itself - handy!If you are scoring by the skipper's name, presumably the sail number
is not used - so just enter the skipper's name (or suitable
abbreviation) in the Sail Number column. You can then use the Sail
Number Wizzard as usual, but with names instead of numbers.--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI Vancouver, B.C., Canada
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________Message: 7
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:41:55 -0000
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: Digest Number 604Hi Geno,
>Also, I notice that a tie in a race has both boats scoring the points for
the position they scored - eg. Two boats tie for second place they each
get
2 points. Unless I've missed a rule change somewhere, should't each boat
get 2.5 points as per Appendix A 7 ("the points for the place for which
the
boats have tied and for the place(s) immediately below shall be added
together and divided equally")?<You can choose between the two methods in Edit+ScoringSystem and then the
RaceScoring tab.Regards,
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:15:09 -0000
From: "town1934.freeserve.co.uk" <geoff@town1934.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 604Colin,
Thanks to all for their suggestions, none were suitable but they made my
grey cells work. My solution appears to work for my requirement and is to
not use the sail number in the <sail number > field of the competitor
field
but just use his name. What made me realise this was remembering that the
computer does not care whether it deals with numbers or characters or
symbols.
Anyway it appears to work and I could just enter the last three characters
of the name , the full name appears and the results appear with the helm`s
name in the sail number column and I just change the column name from sail
number to name and visa versa.
I needed this for Travellers and Handicap series where the helm can use
whichever boat for the series and it his name not the boat that counts,
Cheers,
Geoff----- Original Message -----
From: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 5:30 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Digest Number 604>
> There are 16 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. RE: Fw: Result entry
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> 2. Re: Digest Number 603
> From: "Keith Lomax" <keithlomax@dsl.pipex.com>
> 3. re - Result Entry
> From: "Malcolm Osborne" <malcolmo@telkomsa.net>
> 4. RE: re - Result Entry
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> 5. RE: re - Result Entry
> From: "Richard Gunn" <richard@gunn.me.uk>
> 6. Results
> From: "town1934.freeserve.co.uk"
<geoff@town1934.freeserve.co.uk>
> 7. RE: Results
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> 8. sailno wizard
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> 9. RE: sailno wizard
> From: "Mike Croker" <mdcroker@which.net>
> 10. RE: sailno wizard
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> 11. RE: sailno wizard
> From: "Richard Gunn" <richard@gunn.me.uk>
> 12. RE: sailno wizard
> From: "Mike Croker" <mdcroker@which.net>
> 13. Re: sailno wizard
> From: James Harrell <jay.harrell@riverside.net>
> 14. RE: sailno wizard
> From: Will Gordon <rewillg@optonline.net>
> 15. dev plan
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> 16. RE: sailno wizard
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:58:07 -0000
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> Subject: RE: Fw: Result entry
>
>
> >Hi Colin,
> I had a question about scoring a boat in a series changing rating part
way
> through. Do I have to score this by entering the boat as a new
competitor
> and calculate manually?
> Thanks for the great work! We're enjoying using Sailwave here in Deep
Cove,
> British Columbia, near Vancouver.
> Malcolm Chaddock
> Deep Cove Yacht Club Scorer<
>
> No, if you added a new competitor record, it would get scored as a new
> competitor. Just double click on the result cell that marks the point
at
> which the new boats is used and enter a race-spcific rating value. When
> viewing the series you can choose to see all race specific ratings to
check
> they all look sensible (from the "viewing" drop down).
>
> You could also change the class to something like "Laser/Finn" or
something.
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 19:01:01 -0000
> From: "Keith Lomax" <keithlomax@dsl.pipex.com>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 603
>
> Please cancel current subscription to sailwave as this member is now
> deceased.
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:54 PM
> Subject: [sailwave] Digest Number 603
>
>
> >
> > There are 4 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> > 1. Fw: Result entry
> > From: "town1934.freeserve.co.uk"
> <geoff@town1934.freeserve.co.uk>
> > 2. RE: Fw: Result entry
> > From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> > 3. FW: Fw: Result entry
> > From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> > 4. RE: Fw: Result entry
> > From: Malcolm Chaddock <malcolmchaddock@shaw.ca>
> >
> >
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:43:38 -0000
> > From: "town1934.freeserve.co.uk" <geoff@town1934.freeserve.co.uk>
> > Subject: Fw: Result entry
> >
> > I could not find a response to the following, help please, or did I
miss
> it?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: town1934.freeserve.co.uk
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:42 AM
> > Subject: Result entry
> >
> >
> > 1. Is it possible to enter results and score by helms name?
> >
> > 2. I had the answer to this but lost it; how does "qualification
profile
> work" the `hover` disappears too quickly for my aged brain!
> >
> > Version 1.50
> > Cheers,
> > Geoff
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:07:28 -0000
> > From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> > Subject: RE: Fw: Result entry
> >
> > Hi Geoff,
> >
> > >1. Is it possible to enter results and score by helms name?
> >
> > Sailwave will score each 'competitot' you enter for a series. That
> > competitor can represent anything you like; usually a specific
helm/boat
> > combinatiion but just helm would work as well. If you're running
handicap
> > races and a helm sails different boats you would need to set a
> race-specific
> > rating for that race. Sailwave does not reconcile results across more
> than
> > one competitor record.
> >
> > > 2. I had the answer to this but lost it; how does "qualification
> profile
> > work" the `hover` disappears too quickly for my aged brain!<
> >
> > "Only needed if your SIs specify that competitors
> > must sail N races to qualify for a series. A comma
> > separated list of number of races needed to
> > qualify for the series when 1,2,3,4 etc races
> > completed etc; e.g. 0,0,0,1,1,1,1,2,2. The last
> > value is used if the number of races sailed is
> > greater then the number of entries in the profile.
> > Alternatively the qualification profile can be
> > defined by an expression. Use s for the number
> > of races sailed and r for the number of races in
> > the series."
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> > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:08:07 -0000
> > From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> > Subject: FW: Fw: Result entry
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> > Sent: 25 February 2004 13:07
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [sailwave] Fw: Result entry
> >
> >
> > Hi Geoff,
> >
> > >1. Is it possible to enter results and score by helms name?
> >
> > Sailwave will score each 'competitot' you enter for a series. That
> > competitor can represent anything you like; usually a specific
helm/boat
> > combinatiion but just helm would work as well. If you're running
handicap
> > races and a helm sails different boats you would need to set a
> race-specific
> > rating for that race. Sailwave does not reconcile results across more
> than
> > one competitor record.
> >
> > > 2. I had the answer to this but lost it; how does "qualification
> profile
> > work" the `hover` disappears too quickly for my aged brain!<
> >
> > "Only needed if your SIs specify that competitors
> > must sail N races to qualify for a series. A comma
> > separated list of number of races needed to
> > qualify for the series when 1,2,3,4 etc races
> > completed etc; e.g. 0,0,0,1,1,1,1,2,2. The last
> > value is used if the number of races sailed is
> > greater then the number of entries in the profile.
> > Alternatively the qualification profile can be
> > defined by an expression. Use s for the number
> > of races sailed and r for the number of races in
> > the series."
> >
> > Regards,
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:38:23 -0800
> > From: Malcolm Chaddock <malcolmchaddock@shaw.ca>
> > Subject: RE: Fw: Result entry
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Colin,
> > I had a question about scoring a boat in a series changing rating
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> way
> > through. Do I have to score this by entering the boat as a new
competitor
> > and calculate manually?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 00:11:16 +0200
> From: "Malcolm Osborne" <malcolmo@telkomsa.net>
> Subject: re - Result Entry
>
> Isn't what Geoff is getting at is that Sail Number Wizard can't be used
for
> entering results by helm's name.
>
> In this case results have to be entered by right clicking on the race
cell
> for each entrant and selecting edit result. If you do this in finishing
> order sequence, the position number increments itself - handy!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: 25 February 2004 13:07
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] Fw: Result entry
>
>
> Hi Geoff,
>
> >1. Is it possible to enter results and score by helms name?
>
> Sailwave will score each 'competitot' you enter for a series. That
> competitor can represent anything you like; usually a specific helm/boat
> combinatiion but just helm would work as well. If you're running
handicap
> races and a helm sails different boats you would need to set a
race-specific
> rating for that race. Sailwave does not reconcile results across more
than
> one competitor record.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 08:20:44 -0000
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> Subject: RE: re - Result Entry
>
> Hi Malcom,
>
> Yes, that's more likely - I seemed to fixate on the "and score by" part.
> I'll do somrhin in the 'SailNo' wizard so that it becomes a 'this field'
> wizard.
>
> Regards,
> Colin J
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Malcolm Osborne [mailto:malcolmo@telkomsa.net]
> Sent: 25 February 2004 22:11
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] re - Result Entry
>
>
> Isn't what Geoff is getting at is that Sail Number Wizard can't be used
for
> entering results by helm's name.
>
> In this case results have to be entered by right clicking on the race
cell
> for each entrant and selecting edit result. If you do this in finishing
> order sequence, the position number increments itself - handy!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: 25 February 2004 13:07
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] Fw: Result entry
>
>
> Hi Geoff,
>
> >1. Is it possible to enter results and score by helms name?
>
> Sailwave will score each 'competitot' you enter for a series. That
> competitor can represent anything you like; usually a specific helm/boat
> combinatiion but just helm would work as well. If you're running
handicap
> races and a helm sails different boats you would need to set a
race-specific
> rating for that race. Sailwave does not reconcile results across more
than
> one competitor record.
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:04:11 -0000
> From: "Richard Gunn" <richard@gunn.me.uk>
> Subject: RE: re - Result Entry
>
> That would be very useful.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Gunn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 08:21
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] re - Result Entry
>
>
> Hi Malcom,
>
> Yes, that's more likely - I seemed to fixate on the "and score by" part.
> I'll do somrhin in the 'SailNo' wizard so that it becomes a 'this field'
> wizard.
>
> Regards,
> Colin J
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Malcolm Osborne [mailto:malcolmo@telkomsa.net]
> Sent: 25 February 2004 22:11
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] re - Result Entry
>
>
> Isn't what Geoff is getting at is that Sail Number Wizard can't be used
for
> entering results by helm's name.
>
> In this case results have to be entered by right clicking on the race
cell
> for each entrant and selecting edit result. If you do this in finishing
> order sequence, the position number increments itself - handy!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: 25 February 2004 13:07
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] Fw: Result entry
>
>
> Hi Geoff,
>
> >1. Is it possible to enter results and score by helms name?
>
> Sailwave will score each 'competitot' you enter for a series. That
> competitor can represent anything you like; usually a specific helm/boat
> combinatiion but just helm would work as well. If you're running
handicap
> races and a helm sails different boats you would need to set a
race-specific
> rating for that race. Sailwave does not reconcile results across more
than
> one competitor record.
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:45:44 -0000
> From: "town1934.freeserve.co.uk" <geoff@town1934.freeserve.co.uk>
> Subject: Results
>
> Colin,
> Perhaps my question was not written clearly by me, as far as I can see I
can only enter results by sail number as in F12 although it says
otherwise.
I know I can score by helm but how can I enter by helm`s name?
> I am dealing with a series in the same class/PN but the helm is sailing
different sail different numbered boats,
> Cheers,
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>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:51:26 -0000
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> Subject: RE: Results
>
> Hi Geoff,
>
> Yes. Malcolm has already pointed out my error; my apologies; see my
response
> to him. When you say "although it says otherwise" what do you mean; I
need
> to tweak something if it's causing confusion.
>
> Regards,
> Colin J
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: town1934.freeserve.co.uk [mailto:geoff@town1934.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 09:46
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Results
>
>
> Colin,
> Perhaps my question was not written clearly by me, as far as I can see I
can
> only enter results by sail number as in F12 although it says otherwise.
I
> know I can score by helm but how can I enter by helm`s name?
> I am dealing with a series in the same class/PN but the helm is sailing
> different sail different numbered boats,
> Cheers,
> Geoff
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:07:33 -0000
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> Subject: sailno wizard
>
> Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
> explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
> My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
> water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against
those
> sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as helm
> name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?
>
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> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:08:42 -0000
> From: "Mike Croker" <mdcroker@which.net>
> Subject: RE: sailno wizard
>
> Colin
> In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
> long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class),
or
> S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap
between
> sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking.
Hence
> one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
> Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody)
more
> ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
> Regards
> Mike Croker
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
> explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
> wizard.
> My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on
the
> water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against
those
> sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as
helm
> name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?
>
> Regards,
> Colin J
> www.sailwave.com
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> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:17:31 -0000
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> Subject: RE: sailno wizard
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
> numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail
number
as
> "1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
> correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help?
It
> means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and
results
> with Sailwave sorting things out later.
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Croker [mailto:mdcroker@which.net]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> Colin
> In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
> long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class),
or
> S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap
between
> sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking.
Hence
> one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
> Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody)
more
> ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
> Regards
> Mike Croker
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
> explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
> wizard.
> My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on
the
> water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against
those
> sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as
helm
> name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?
>
> Regards,
> Colin J
> www.sailwave.com
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:29:53 -0000
> From: "Richard Gunn" <richard@gunn.me.uk>
> Subject: RE: sailno wizard
>
> I agree with this view, sail numbers are fine for 99% of the time. It is
> just that, if you were going to change the wizard, I would make it work
on
> any field rather than just add helm names (although that would be the
most
> likely one to use). To be honest, it is fine as is.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Gunn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 16:18
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
> numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail
number
as
> "1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
> correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help?
It
> means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and
results
> with Sailwave sorting things out later.
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Croker [mailto:mdcroker@which.net]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> Colin
> In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
> long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class),
or
> S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap
between
> sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking.
Hence
> one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
> Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody)
more
> ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
> Regards
> Mike Croker
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
> explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
> wizard.
> My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on
the
> water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against
those
> sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as
helm
> name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?
>
> Regards,
> Colin J
> www.sailwave.com
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> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:03:25 -0000
> From: "Mike Croker" <mdcroker@which.net>
> Subject: RE: sailno wizard
>
> I agree with Richard that it is fine as it is, although Colin's
suggestion
> would have saved me some grief last season.
> Now what about those sailors that swap boats within a given class.......
> Leave it as it is!
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Gunn [mailto:richard@gunn.me.uk]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 16:30
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> I agree with this view, sail numbers are fine for 99% of the time. It is
> just that, if you were going to change the wizard, I would make it work
on
> any field rather than just add helm names (although that would be the
most
> likely one to use). To be honest, it is fine as is.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Gunn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 16:18
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
> numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail
number
as
> "1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
> correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help?
It
> means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and
results
> with Sailwave sorting things out later.
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Croker [mailto:mdcroker@which.net]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> Colin
> In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
> long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class),
or
> S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap
between
> sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking.
Hence
> one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
> Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody)
more
> ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
> Regards
> Mike Croker
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
> explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
> wizard.
> My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on
the
> water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against
those
> sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as
helm
> name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?
>
> Regards,
> Colin J
> www.sailwave.com
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> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 11:38:34 -0500
> From: James Harrell <jay.harrell@riverside.net>
> Subject: Re: sailno wizard
>
> Colin,
>
> Yes, our club records helm and elapsed time on the water. We typically
> have few enough boats racing that the RC knows everyone by name.
>
> But this isn't a problem for me in sailwave - I simply put the helm name
> and boat type in the sailnumber field (ie. "Duncan CAT22"). Then when
> entering results I can type the first few characters of the name and it
> pulls up the rest automatically. Works great as-is for me.
>
> Jay
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>
> At 03:07 PM 2/26/2004 +0000, Colin Jenkins wrote:
> >Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
> >explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
wizard.
> >My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on the
> >water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against
those
> >sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as
helm
> >name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?
>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:16:31 -0500
> From: Will Gordon <rewillg@optonline.net>
> Subject: RE: sailno wizard
>
> We have a couple of boats that have "used" sails and have different
numbers
> on the main and jib. Illegal, I know, but we don't worry about it in
club
> races. Allowing a number like 1064,10665 would solve the problem for us
> since some r/c's record the jib number and others record the number on
the
> main. But it's not a big deal if it would screw up anything else.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Will Gordon
> (cycscorer)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:18 AM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
> numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail
number
as
> "1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
> correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help?
It
> means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and
results
> with Sailwave sorting things out later.
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Croker [mailto:mdcroker@which.net]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> Colin
> In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
> long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class),
or
> S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap
between
> sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking.
Hence
> one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
> Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody)
more
> ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
> Regards
> Mike Croker
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
> explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
> wizard.
> My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on
the
> water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against
those
> sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as
helm
> name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?
>
> Regards,
> Colin J
> www.sailwave.com
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:24:06 -0000
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> Subject: dev plan
>
> Here is a link to the updated dev plan on Sailwave-Net.
>
> If I've promised something and missed it out please tell me. Please
feel
> free to suggest more additions for the 'ratings/points systems' release.
>
> http://sailwave.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=5#5
>
> Regards,
> Colin J
> www.sailwave.com
>
> PS: I've negotiated with my wife to devote the whole of this weekend to
> Sailwave; not a screwdriver in sight. Hopefully I'll complete 1.52 and
get
> some way into 1.53.
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> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:28:05 -0000
> From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
> Subject: RE: sailno wizard
>
> It's a small tweak that I'll include in 1.52 this weekend
> CJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Gordon [mailto:rewillg@optonline.net]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 17:17
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> We have a couple of boats that have "used" sails and have different
numbers
> on the main and jib. Illegal, I know, but we don't worry about it in
club
> races. Allowing a number like 1064,10665 would solve the problem for us
> since some r/c's record the jib number and others record the number on
the
> main. But it's not a big deal if it would screw up anything else.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Will Gordon
> (cycscorer)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:18 AM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> OK thanks. What about if the SailNo wizard responded to multiple sail
> numbers in the sail number field i.e. if the user entered the sail
number
as
> "1064,10665" in the competitor record, the sailno wizard would find the
> correct competitor when either of these was entered. Would that help?
It
> means that the race officer can still just record sail numbers and
results
> with Sailwave sorting things out later.
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Croker [mailto:mdcroker@which.net]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 16:09
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> Colin
> In an ideal world (and usually at 'regattas') sail #'s rule. However in
> long club series, the same helm may buy a new boat (of the same class),
or
> S/H sail, with different #'s, and if you are really lucky they swap
between
> sails e.g. new one for light winds, older one for when it's honking.
Hence
> one reason why results entry by helm might save some grief.
> Personally I'd leave it as it is, as it gives me (as results dogsbody)
more
> ammo to get the silly sailors to organise themselves properly......
> Regards
> Mike Croker
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 15:08
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] sailno wizard
>
>
> Continuing the discussion about the sail number wizard. Can somebody
> explain to me why it would be useful to turn this into a 'any field'
> wizard.
> My assumption was that results are recorded against sail numbers on
the
> water and then the sailno wizard can be used for fast entry against
those
> sail numbers. Are we saying that results are sometimes recorded as
helm
> name and position/elapsed etc when written down by the race officer?
>
> Regards,
> Colin J
> www.sailwave.com
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:19:00 -0000
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: RE: Digest Number 604Geoff,
>Thanks to all for their suggestions, none were suitable but they made my
grey cells work. My solution appears to work for my requirement and is to
not use the sail number in the <sail number > field of the competitor
field
but just use his name.<
Two or three people did suggest that...
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:55:45 -0000
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: LocalesHi,
If anybody out there is using a Sailwave locale I would really appreciate
it
if you could donate it for others to use. All donated locales are
attributed to the translator.Regards,
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:28:47 -0000
From: "Colin Jenkins" <colin@sailwave.com>
Subject: locales againSorry, I should of added that I'm especially interested in working with
somebody in getting a locale working that uses something like a Chinese
character set. As I understand it there are problems with the as it
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