[sailwave] How to score for overall Regatta winner across different fleets

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Hi Huw,

Thanks for the suggestion. I think you’re suggesting that I try to score each race as a large handicap fleet, right?

I don’t think that will work, because the fleets may be sailing different courses, so I don’t think there is any reasonable way to compare competitors directly. I was thinking more along the lines of analyzing the finishing order from the individual fleets.

As I said, the Cox-Sprague tables can do this, but I don’t think sailwave implements them??

Doug

—In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, <huw.pearce@…> wrote :

Hi Doug,

  I think you can do what you are looking for using the 'aliases'

functionality in Sailwave. You can have one or more aliases for a
competitor.

  My initial idea on setting this up is to enter/import all

competitors, these will be used for overall regatta with a Fleet
field value of say ‘Overall’. Then create an alias for each
competitor then tag in the Fleet field with an appropriate name,
for example ‘Fleet 1’, ‘Fleet 2’, ‘Fleet 3’ & ‘Fleet 4’ for
the One Design classes where ‘Fleet #’ replaced by the class name.
Whereas for the handicap fleet use ‘Handicap’

  The above pre-supposes that ALL boats will be recorded on the

finish line with a finish time and that each fleet has the
appropriate start data entered in the race window for each race.
It also pre-supposes that when entering finish data that ALL boats
have their finish time entered, even though this effectively will
not be used when scoring the One Design fleets but it will be used
for the overall regatta fleet calculations.

  Then the scoring system needs to be configured with the

appropriate scoring system for each fleet on the fleets tab, the
default scoring system configured for the I suggest the overall
fleet.

I hope you find this information useful.

Kind regards,

Huw

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On 06/06/2018 20:30, Doug McKnight douglasmcknight@… [sailwave] wrote:

Hello,

            I'm going to be scoring a regatta soon in which we

shall be racing several different fleets. There will be
about 4 one-design fleets, and one handicap fleet and
the number of boats in each fleet is likely to differ.

            The plan is to do low-point scoring for the regatta

within each fleet, but I have also been asked to come up
with an overall regatta winner. How should I do this,
taking into account that placings in a larger fleet
should be weighed more heavily.

            In the past, I've used Cox-Sprague tables for this

kind of thing, but is seems that there ought to be a
nice way to re-score within sailwave. Should I score for
low-point to get the fleet results, and then rescore
using CHIPS and then select the sailor who not only won
their fleet, but got the highest point score?

Suggestions gratefu lly received,

Doug


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Hi Doug,

  Fair point that I had not picked up regarding different fleets

sailing different courses :frowning:

  Yes you are correct that Sailwave does not support Cox-Sprague

tables. There are, as you seem to have found, 3 high point scoring
options built-in [Austria, Rinderle B & CHIPS] and capability
to do something custom.

  It might be possible to use the functionality in Sailwave to

bi-directionally work with Excel to generate a custom spreadsheet
that does the Cox-Sprague calculations. After a quick Internet
search I found this link [
] which is a 2018 version of an Excel spreadsheet that does
Cox-Sprague calculations.

  All the best in scoring your regatta and determining and overall

winner.

Kind regards,

Huw

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On 08/06/2018 23:42,
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douglasmcknight@yahoo.com

Hi Huw,

          Thanks for the suggestion. I think you're suggesting

that I try to score each race as a large handicap fleet,
right?

          I don't think that will work, because the fleets may be

sailing different courses, so I don’t think there is any
reasonable way to compare competitors directly. I was
thinking more along the lines of analyzing the finishing
order from the individual fleets.

          As I said, the Cox-Sprague tables can do this, but I

don’t think sailwave implements them??

Doug

        ---In , wrote

:

sailwave@yahoogroups.com<huw.pearce@…>

Hi Doug,

            I think you can do what you are looking for using the

‘aliases’ functionality in Sailwave. You can have one or
more aliases for a competitor.

            My initial idea on setting this up is to enter/import

all competitors, these will be used for overall regatta
with a Fleet field value of say ‘Overall’. Then create
an alias for each competitor then tag in the Fleet field
with an appropriate name, for example ‘Fleet 1’, ‘Fleet
2’, ‘Fleet 3’ & ‘Fleet 4’ for the One Design
classes where ‘Fleet #’ replaced by the class name.
Whereas for the handicap fleet use ‘Handicap’

            The above pre-supposes that ALL boats will be recorded

on the finish line with a finish time and that each
fleet has the appropriate start data entered in the race
window for each race. It also pre-supposes that when
entering finish data that ALL boats have their finish
time entered, even though this effectively will not be
used when scoring the One Design fleets but it will be
used for the overall regatta fleet calculations.

            Then the scoring system needs to be configured with the

appropriate scoring system for each fleet on the fleets
tab, the default scoring system configured for the I
suggest the overall fleet.

I hope you find this information useful.

Kind regards,

Huw

            On

06/06/2018 20:30, Doug McKnight douglasmcknight@…
[sailwave] wrote:

Hello,

                      I'm going to be scoring a regatta soon in

which we shall be racing several different
fleets. There will be about 4 one-design
fleets, and one handicap fleet and the number
of boats in each fleet is likely to differ.

                      The plan is to do low-point scoring for the

regatta within each fleet, but I have also
been asked to come up with an overall regatta
winner. How should I do this, taking into
account that placings in a larger fleet should
be weighed more heavily.

                      In the past, I've used Cox-Sprague tables

for this kind of thing, but is seems that
there ought to be a nice way to re-score
within sailwave. Should I score for low-point
to get the fleet results, and then rescore
using CHIPS and then select the sailor who not
only won their fleet, but got the highest
point score?

Suggestions gratefu lly received,

Doug


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