[sailwave] KISS

One philosophy that we have had at my club for several years was where possible to stick to the ISAF rules. At one point we believed ourselves to be smarter than ISAF and as such would modify the scoring system, starting systems, etc. to meet our special needs and provide a better solution. In retrospect it probably wasn't better and was simply different.

In looking at some of the issues we are asking Colin to include I am concerned that we are including scoring options that are different, but not necessarily better than that which can be achieved "out of the rule book". Always think Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS), when you discover that the scoring system that you dreamt up one winters evening doesn't score correctly in Sailwave, ask yourseleves
is it better or different! End of soap box....

Colin, thanks for all the hard work and a great scoring program. Hope your sailing season is going well.

Mark Townsend
s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

Thanks Mark!

From now on I will KISS as often as I can!

(I've learned it another way: Keep It Simple, as Simple as possible)

/Martin

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Mark Townsend
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:16 PM
  Subject: RE: [sailwave] KISS

  One philosophy that we have had at my club for several years was where
  possible to stick to the ISAF rules. At one point we believed ourselves to
  be smarter than ISAF and as such would modify the scoring system, starting
  systems, etc. to meet our special needs and provide a better solution. In
  retrospect it probably wasn't better and was simply different.

  In looking at some of the issues we are asking Colin to include I am
  concerned that we are including scoring options that are different, but not
  necessarily better than that which can be achieved "out of the rule book".
  Always think Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS), when you discover that the
  scoring system that you dreamt up one winters evening doesn't score
  correctly in Sailwave, ask yourseleves
  is it better or different! End of soap box....

  Colin, thanks for all the hard work and a great scoring program. Hope your
  sailing season is going well.

  Mark Townsend
  s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

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The trouble is that I quite often need to remind myself of this principle & get some very odd looks

I find Keep It Simple & Short is a good alternative
(but judging by my emails sometimes, fail miserably!!)

Regards
Ralph

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from my wife when she sees draft SIs on my desk with KISS written all over them ;-)))

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Bolgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]
Sent: 08 July 2005 19:37
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] KISS

Thanks Mark!

From now on I will KISS as often as I can!

(I've learned it another way: Keep It Simple, as Simple as possible)

/Martin
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Mark Townsend
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:16 PM
  Subject: RE: [sailwave] KISS

  One philosophy that we have had at my club for several years was where
  possible to stick to the ISAF rules. At one point we believed ourselves to
  be smarter than ISAF and as such would modify the scoring system, starting
  systems, etc. to meet our special needs and provide a better solution. In
  retrospect it probably wasn't better and was simply different.

  In looking at some of the issues we are asking Colin to include I am
  concerned that we are including scoring options that are different, but not
  necessarily better than that which can be achieved "out of the rule book".
  Always think Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS), when you discover that the
  scoring system that you dreamt up one winters evening doesn't score
  correctly in Sailwave, ask yourseleves
  is it better or different! End of soap box....

  Colin, thanks for all the hard work and a great scoring program. Hope your
  sailing season is going well.

  Mark Townsend
  s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

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Unfortunately, sometimes you inherit a system and have to try and work it whether you agree with it or not....

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Ralph Tingle
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:16 PM
  Subject: RE: [sailwave] KISS

  The trouble is that I quite often need to remind myself of this principle & get some very odd looks
  from my wife when she sees draft SIs on my desk with KISS written all over them ;-)))

  I find Keep It Simple & Short is a good alternative
  (but judging by my emails sometimes, fail miserably!!)

  Regards
  Ralph

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Martin Bolgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]
  Sent: 08 July 2005 19:37
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [sailwave] KISS

  Thanks Mark!

  >From now on I will KISS as often as I can!

  (I've learned it another way: Keep It Simple, as Simple as possible)

  /Martin
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Mark Townsend
    To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:16 PM
    Subject: RE: [sailwave] KISS

    One philosophy that we have had at my club for several years was where
    possible to stick to the ISAF rules. At one point we believed ourselves to
    be smarter than ISAF and as such would modify the scoring system, starting
    systems, etc. to meet our special needs and provide a better solution. In
    retrospect it probably wasn't better and was simply different.

    In looking at some of the issues we are asking Colin to include I am
    concerned that we are including scoring options that are different, but not
    necessarily better than that which can be achieved "out of the rule book".
    Always think Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS), when you discover that the
    scoring system that you dreamt up one winters evening doesn't score
    correctly in Sailwave, ask yourseleves
    is it better or different! End of soap box....

    Colin, thanks for all the hard work and a great scoring program. Hope your
    sailing season is going well.

    Mark Townsend
    s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

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Hi Mark,

One philosophy that we have had at my club for several years was where
possible to stick to the ISAF rules. At one point we believed
ourselves to
be smarter than ISAF and as such would modify the scoring system,
starting
systems, etc. to meet our special needs and provide a better solution. In
retrospect it probably wasn't better and was simply different.

In looking at some of the issues we are asking Colin to include I am
concerned that we are including scoring options that are
different, but not
necessarily better than that which can be achieved "out of the
rule book".
Always think Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS), when you discover that the
scoring system that you dreamt up one winters evening doesn't score
correctly in Sailwave, ask yourseleves
is it better or different! End of soap box....

I try very hard to resist adding stuff willy nilly and constantly try to
simplify but its not always possible...

Colin, thanks for all the hard work and a great scoring program.
Hope your
sailing season is going well.

Thanks. No sailing (boatless) apart from borrowing a boat last weekend for
our long distance race, but, I'm hoping to get my hands on an A-Class in
about 6 weeks time...

Colin
www.sailwave.com

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Good luck with the A-Cat one of our members just got back from the World's
in France...

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-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:25 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] KISS

Hi Mark,

One philosophy that we have had at my club for several years was where
possible to stick to the ISAF rules. At one point we believed
ourselves to
be smarter than ISAF and as such would modify the scoring system,
starting
systems, etc. to meet our special needs and provide a better solution. In
retrospect it probably wasn't better and was simply different.

In looking at some of the issues we are asking Colin to include I am
concerned that we are including scoring options that are
different, but not
necessarily better than that which can be achieved "out of the
rule book".
Always think Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS), when you discover that the
scoring system that you dreamt up one winters evening doesn't score
correctly in Sailwave, ask yourseleves
is it better or different! End of soap box....

I try very hard to resist adding stuff willy nilly and constantly try to
simplify but its not always possible...

Colin, thanks for all the hard work and a great scoring program.
Hope your
sailing season is going well.

Thanks. No sailing (boatless) apart from borrowing a boat last weekend for
our long distance race, but, I'm hoping to get my hands on an A-Class in
about 6 weeks time...

Colin
www.sailwave.com

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Hi Mark,

Good luck with the A-Cat one of our members just got back from the World's
in France...

Thanks.

If anybody knows of a decent A2/Flyer/XJ for sail near the UK, I'd be
interested... They are not too popular in the UK at the moment with just a
handful of boats here, but a lots of people are talking about them and I
feel a revolution starting... Relatively expensive though. The UK Nacra
'agent' quoted me L13,800 for a new A2 - that's $24,000 and �20,000. But he
would not deliver it !! A new XJ is far more reasonable at L9200 if you
drive to Rimini to get it... Don't have Flyer price - they did not respond
to my email; amazing; too much business...?

Colin
www.sailwave.com

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If anybody knows of a decent A2/Flyer/XJ for sail near the UK, I'd be
interested... They are not too popular in the UK at the moment
with just a
handful of boats here, but a lots of people are talking about them and I
feel a revolution starting... Relatively expensive though. The UK Nacra
'agent' quoted me L13,800 for a new A2 - that's $24,000 and
�20,000. But he
would not deliver it !! A new XJ is far more reasonable at L9200 if you
drive to Rimini to get it... Don't have Flyer price - they did
not respond
to my email; amazing; too much business...?

L = GBP - UK Sterling character eaten by Yahoo.

Colin
www.sailwave.com

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Not sure what it would cost to ship but the US website is

http://www.morrellimelvin.com/a2index.html

The site has contact information

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-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:29 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] A-Class

Hi Mark,

Good luck with the A-Cat one of our members just got back from the World's
in France...

Thanks.

If anybody knows of a decent A2/Flyer/XJ for sail near the UK, I'd be
interested... They are not too popular in the UK at the moment with just a
handful of boats here, but a lots of people are talking about them and I
feel a revolution starting... Relatively expensive though. The UK Nacra
'agent' quoted me L13,800 for a new A2 - that's $24,000 and €20,000. But he
would not deliver it !! A new XJ is far more reasonable at L9200 if you
drive to Rimini to get it... Don't have Flyer price - they did not respond
to my email; amazing; too much business...?

Colin
www.sailwave.com

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Hi Mark,

Not sure what it would cost to ship but the US website is

http://www.morrellimelvin.com/a2index.html

The site has contact information

Thanks, but tried that; they point you at the Holland agent who them points you at the UK 'agent'... !

Colin
www.sailwave.com

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