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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Townsend [mailto:s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com]
Sent: 27 April 2006 17:11
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Olympic format Add.Q
The text is from the minutes of ISAF Conference in Singapore dated 11
November 2005. The section I copied was submission 025, which was approved,
it delt with the new format for the 2008 Olympic games.
http://www.sailing.org/default.asp?PID=16604
Mark Townsend
s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Olympic format Add.Q
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:25:04 +0100
Hi Mark
Where did you get this text from??
Martin, You may need to be careful about using 'this format' for your
Nationals
As far as I am aware, there are a number of documents going round about the
medals format etc.
With some official ie Appendix LE which includes Addendum C & Appendix Q.
The rest we need to be careful about (subject to what Mark's reply is from
above)
Mike Butterfield has a CD which has recently issued to IROs & contains
advice to ROs re the new
system
Mike is also trying to find out what is official & what is experimental
Regards
Ralph
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Townsend [mailto:s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com]
Sent: 26 April 2006 22:19
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Olympic format Add.Q
The Olympic Champions will be decided after a final 10-boat race, judged on
the water and carrying a weighted double points score.
1. Regatta Format
An 11 race series (a 16 race series for the 49er).
A Medal Race will be scheduled on the day designated for each class�s medal
ceremony, even if the full schedule has not been completed by that day.
The top 10 placed boats advance to the Medal Race. All boats advancing will
be required to compete in the Medal Race.
On the water umpiring will be used in the Medal Race.
This format will apply to all test events and the 2008 Olympic Regatta (for
all classes).
2. Scoring System
There will be one discard for the series score but the Medal Race shall not
be discarded.
Competitors will carry their series scores (ie total of race scores after
discard) through to the Medal Race.
Race scores for the Medal Race will be doubled (ie 2 points for first, 4
points for second, and so on) and added to the series score.
Any series tie after the Medal Race will be broken in favour of the boat
finishing higher in the Medal Race.
If the Medal Race is not completed, medals will be awarded based on the
series score for all the prior races (in the normal way).
Mark Townsend
s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: Martin B�lgen <martin@seilforening.no>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Olympic format Add.Q
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:43:39 +0200
Hi, Mike...
Please enlight me again: What is the point of doubling the points?
It will not make any difference, or ??
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike & Trish Butterfield
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Olympic format Add.Q
No double points for the DNC is 32 points.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Martin B�lgen
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Olympic format Add.Q
Hi, Mike!
What is the minimum fleet size for this to be effective?
If totally you have 15 boats, then a DNC will be 16 points. Last place
in the Gold Fleet will be 20 points...
So you need minimum 20 boats....
This will not be a "olympic case". I was just thinking about small
classes here... The format will not fit...
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike & Trish Butterfield
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Olympic format Add.Q
I cannon see the problem with the double points.
As all the none trophy boats get DNC it does not affect say the Gold
Fleet
standings.
Do not forget it is the same for all boats.
Ist gets 2 second 4 points.
Thos overwhelms the earlier score to make the last race more
important.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin B�lgen" <martin@seilforening.no>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Olympic format Add.Q
Thanks, Mike.
We're goint to use this format for the Norwegian Nationals this
year....
But I've been wondering: If you use the Low point system, and the
final
(last race with 10 boats) counts double points..... It doesent sound
good to
me at all, unless you have big classes... If it was HALF the
points..
regards,
Martin B�lgen
97517102/37251906
Grimstad seilforening
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Mike & Trish Butterfield" <pmbutterfield@email.msn.com>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:56:03 +0100
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>
>Go to the ISAF web mage, officials, then managment and
organisation.<BR>
><BR>
>The full details of the Olympic Format are not published.<BR>
><BR>
>The seriese to date carries points over.<BR>
>The last race (Trophy race) counts double points, and in not
>discardable.<BR>
>10 boats in final race.<BR>
>Addendum Q<BR>
>Score whole of last fleet in one file<BR>
>In last race OCS, RTD etc based on the number of boats in the final
round
><BR>
>(Gold Fleet) Not the 10.<BR>
>Boats for the final round (less the 10 in the Medal Race) are
scored
as
>DNC. <BR>
>This they always come behind the medal boats.<BR>
><BR>
>i think this coveres it.<BR>
><BR>
>Mike Butterfield<BR>
>----- Original Message ----- <BR>
>From: "Martin B�lgen" <martin@seilforening.no><BR>
>To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com><BR>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:30 AM<BR>
>Subject: [sailwave] Olympic format Add.Q<BR>
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>Hi!<BR>
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>Where can I find description of the new Olympic format with
Addendum
Q
>?<BR>
><BR>
>Martin B�lgen<BR>
>97517102/37251906<BR>
>Grimstad seilforening<BR>
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