[sailwave] Re: NHC

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I’ve just taken a look at the series I have run through NHC, and I get the same results if I use 1.0.9.0 as I do using 1.0.18.0. Both seem to handle discards ok, as I have 2 discards being applied, and the ratings are not affected by the discards.

Glad to hear the up to date software seems to have cured it for you.

Paul

Hi Hugh,

I downloaded and install the 3 files and that seems to have fixed the blw file that I posted so I guess these latest Helper and supporting xls files have the necessary fix.

If I install the latest BETA version of Sailwave on another PC will it automatically also install the latest SWHelper.exe and xls files or will this need to be done manually for now?

I’ll do some more dummy test results on what I have now and see if it throws up any other issues. I guess that this is the idea of a BETA version.

Regards,

John

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John johnlstokes2002@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Huw Pearce <huw.pearce@…> wrote:

Hi John,

Yes the version of SWHelper you have been using is the original version
of the NHC functionality, the latest version is 1.0.18.0. Please obtain
the 3 files listed below and see if you have the same problem.

  • Place the SWHelper.exe in the same folder as the sailwave.exe
  • place the two .XLS files in the templates folder under the Sailwave
    folder

SWHelper is the utility that extracts data from the Sailwave .BLW file
and performs either internally (faster) the NHC calculations or passes
the data into Excel so the calculations are visible.

Simplistically, SWHelper is the utility that provides all the NHC
functionality.

Hope this helps and that the newer versions overcome the problems you
have experienced. If not let us know.

Just starting to get results in so may be slower to respond for a while.
Kind regards,
Huw
On 01/04/2013 11:59, John wrote:

Hi Huw,

My SWHelper is version 1.0.9.0, obviously quite old.

What does SWHelper do?

Please excuse my ignorance

Regards,

John.

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com,
Huw Pearce <huw.pearce@> wrote:

Hi John,

Thanks for the information. One other thing - do you have the latest
version of SWHelper file which can be got at
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/220425/SWHelper.EXE and should be the latest
version available! You will need the following files as well to go with
latest SWHelper:

To see which version of SWHelper you have, hover over the application
icon on windows explorer or right click and select properties. FYI -
The
latest version of SWHelper 1.0.18.

Jon is hoping to have alook at your upload file later today before the
results start coming ashore from the race teams here in Largs (2013 RYA
Youth Championships).

Kind regards,
Huw
<https://dl.dropbox.com/u/220425/SWHelper.EXE>
On 01/04/2013 11:01, John wrote:

Yes I downloaded the BETA version from the Sailwave Web Site
yesterday

it is version 2.9.4. I played around by delaying the 1st discard to
race 5 and this corrected the problem I then put the discard back to
cut in at race 3 and the original fault of incorrect NHC handicap
number did not reappear.

This morning I started from scratch to recreate the problem from a
new

series and I now have a different problem in which the lead boat in
race 3 has had its handicap reduced to 0 from the value 1. Quite mad.
The problems I am seeing appear to be related to the order I enter
values. I will see how I can upload the blw file for further
examination.

Regards,

John

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com
mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com,

Huw Pearce <huw.pearce@> wrote:

Hi John,

I would not expect a discard cutting in to have an effect as this
information is not passed through, to the best of my knowledge,
to the

calculation routine. If you care to make your .BLW file
available I am

sure Jon will and Art will take a look and report back.

It would be useful to know if the version you are using is the one
available on the Sailwave web site or a later revision that has
only so

far been made available via this SUG. The later revisions have
not been

made available on the web site as Jon is trying to sort out another
issue, not related to NHC functionality, before uploading a newer
revision.

Jon is in Largs this week helping with scoring at the 2013 RYA Youth
Nationals, so may not be quite as responsive as usual this week.

Kind regards,
Huw
On 31/03/2013 22:10, John wrote:

I just loaded the new BETA version to test the NHC scoring
system. I

set up as a club NHC (not Regatta mode) for 3 boats in a 5 race
series. I set all initial Handicap’s to 1 and for each race I
entered

the same start time and an end time 1 minute later for each
boat in

all races,i.e. consistant results for every race. I could see
that

the

NHC handicap was gradually increasing for the winning boat,
staying

the same for the boat coming second and reducing for the boat
coming

in 3rd. This all changed though when the first discard kicked
in on

race 3. Suddenly the lead boat handicap returned back to 1 thus
restoring his dominance. What is that all about? When I read the
details of the NHC on the RYA site, I don’t see anything about
changing the handicap if discards are applied, or maybe I am
mistaken!!