[sailwave] Re: Printing Problems

I believe 2) is a problem and the header rows not appearing on subsequent sheets is a problem.

The other thing that i find awkward is printing out a series and individual races (on seperate sheets to avoid a single
race overflowing page boundaries), since
if you combine it as one (as you would publishing to a web site) the individual races dont start on a new page (without
some editing) so you end up publishing the series result and the printing it. Then publishing each race individually
and printing it. This is slow, tedious and means you have to keep altering the publish options which is error prone.

This is usefull for handicap events where people like to see the corrected times as well as their positions in each race.

John

···

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: 23 June 2004 14:48
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems

Hi Donald et al,

The original idea was to generate HTML and then get a web browser to print
it. As I understand it, the problem with this is twofold:-

1. Some browsers split the table rows in half at the bottom of a page,
making that row spread across two pages vertically and hence is unreadable.
I've never seen a browser do this - it always splits the row at a sensible
place so the text itself is never split.

2. When using a large font (or a long series) the number of columns can
overflow a landscape sheet of paper horizontally - and browsers do not
handle this.

Is that correct?

Or is 1. more do to with the fact that the header rows are only available on
the first page?

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

-----Original Message-----
From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@smu.ca]
Sent: 23 June 2004 13:08
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems

Hi Colin: One chap already replied explaining what he does to print
from Frontpage. It seemed to be immensely tedious deleting rows and so
on. So,I really have two questions. One is that output from Sailwave
seems to override the Word settings. I set up Word & the printer to
Landscape and Word remembers this for ordinary documents. But output
from Sailwave always comes up in Portrait orientation. Is it Sailwave?
Secondly, the reason I use Word is that allows me to see page breaks.
If I use a web editor printed output can have the top half of a row of
characters on one page and the bottom half on another. OK, I could
slice the pages up with a knife and join them together. The chap who
kindly replied said that he temporarily deletes rows, prints,
undeletes those rows and deletes what he printed etc. - more or less.
This is unbelieveably crude and time consuming. I have about 8 fleets
which run to three or four pages of printout for each fleet. I would
be up half the night getting results published. Maybe it is something
we have to expect when we use Microsoft products! Or, more likely, it
is me not understanding how web editors work. But I can find no
mechanism which will make what I see on the screen print on paper when
using a web editor.
This has been my rant for several years now. But I still have no idea
how other users deal with this problem.
A final problem. I have just set up Sailwave on a computer to go to
the Club. For practice I put last year's results on a floppy and
transferred them to a new folder on the new computer. Now, when I try
to publish, Sailwave says that it can't find the floppy even though
the data is in a folder on the c: drive. I have to hit continue. Is
there something embedded doing this? Should I have just transferred
the .blw files rather than all the files generated by Sailwave in that
Regatta folder?
Bye, Disturbed in Bedford

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Jenkins" <colin@s…> wrote:
> Hi Donald,
>
> Nice to hear from you again.
>
> We always print the results from the browser; presumably that
doesn't work
> for you - can you explain (again?) a little bit about why…
>
> Regards,
> Colin
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@s…]
> > Sent: 22 June 2004 03:28
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [sailwave] Printing Problems
> >
> >
> > Once a year I score a regatta and before hand I ask a similar
> > question. "How the heck do I get decent quality print from Sailwave?"
> > I set up the printer to landscape orientation. Set up Word to
> > Landscape and alter the margins to suit. I'm a Wordperfect user but
> > while it will remember settings it wont import Sailwave output nicely.
> > I can't use Frontpage for it is stupid about pagebreaks and can print
> > half lines of text on different pages. Forced to use Word. If I start
> > Word normally it will come up in landscape orientation. But when
> > importing Sailwave output it always starts in portrait. It drives me
> > nuts. I admit I know nothing about HTML editing. So what do all you
> > Sailwave users do to get decent looking output that sailors can see
> > from the back of the crowd? Clearly I'm missunderstanding some aspect
> > of the arcane ritual. Any help please? Thanks, Donald
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Hi John,

OK I understand. There are a few areas of Sailwave that need a major
overhaul and publishing is one of them; I'll see what I can do to hack it in
the short term.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

···

-----Original Message-----
From: Harvey, John [mailto:jpharvey@ptc.com]
Sent: 23 June 2004 14:57
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems

I believe 2) is a problem and the header rows not appearing on
subsequent sheets is a problem.

The other thing that i find awkward is printing out a series and
individual races (on seperate sheets to avoid a single
race overflowing page boundaries), since
if you combine it as one (as you would publishing to a web site)
the individual races dont start on a new page (without
some editing) so you end up publishing the series result and the
printing it. Then publishing each race individually
and printing it. This is slow, tedious and means you have to keep
altering the publish options which is error prone.

This is usefull for handicap events where people like to see the
corrected times as well as their positions in each race.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]
Sent: 23 June 2004 14:48
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems

Hi Donald et al,

The original idea was to generate HTML and then get a web browser to print
it. As I understand it, the problem with this is twofold:-

1. Some browsers split the table rows in half at the bottom of a page,
making that row spread across two pages vertically and hence is
unreadable.
I've never seen a browser do this - it always splits the row at a sensible
place so the text itself is never split.

2. When using a large font (or a long series) the number of columns can
overflow a landscape sheet of paper horizontally - and browsers do not
handle this.

Is that correct?

Or is 1. more do to with the fact that the header rows are only
available on
the first page?

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@smu.ca]
> Sent: 23 June 2004 13:08
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems
>
>
> Hi Colin: One chap already replied explaining what he does to print
> from Frontpage. It seemed to be immensely tedious deleting rows and so
> on. So,I really have two questions. One is that output from Sailwave
> seems to override the Word settings. I set up Word & the printer to
> Landscape and Word remembers this for ordinary documents. But output
> from Sailwave always comes up in Portrait orientation. Is it Sailwave?
> Secondly, the reason I use Word is that allows me to see page breaks.
> If I use a web editor printed output can have the top half of a row of
> characters on one page and the bottom half on another. OK, I could
> slice the pages up with a knife and join them together. The chap who
> kindly replied said that he temporarily deletes rows, prints,
> undeletes those rows and deletes what he printed etc. - more or less.
> This is unbelieveably crude and time consuming. I have about 8 fleets
> which run to three or four pages of printout for each fleet. I would
> be up half the night getting results published. Maybe it is something
> we have to expect when we use Microsoft products! Or, more likely, it
> is me not understanding how web editors work. But I can find no
> mechanism which will make what I see on the screen print on paper when
> using a web editor.
> This has been my rant for several years now. But I still have no idea
> how other users deal with this problem.
> A final problem. I have just set up Sailwave on a computer to go to
> the Club. For practice I put last year's results on a floppy and
> transferred them to a new folder on the new computer. Now, when I try
> to publish, Sailwave says that it can't find the floppy even though
> the data is in a folder on the c: drive. I have to hit continue. Is
> there something embedded doing this? Should I have just transferred
> the .blw files rather than all the files generated by Sailwave in that
> Regatta folder?
> Bye, Disturbed in Bedford
>
> — In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Jenkins" <colin@s…> wrote:
> > Hi Donald,
> >
> > Nice to hear from you again.
> >
> > We always print the results from the browser; presumably that
> doesn't work
> > for you - can you explain (again?) a little bit about why…
> >
> > Regards,
> > Colin
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@s…]
> > > Sent: 22 June 2004 03:28
> > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [sailwave] Printing Problems
> > >
> > >
> > > Once a year I score a regatta and before hand I ask a similar
> > > question. "How the heck do I get decent quality print from
Sailwave?"
> > > I set up the printer to landscape orientation. Set up Word to
> > > Landscape and alter the margins to suit. I'm a Wordperfect user but
> > > while it will remember settings it wont import Sailwave
output nicely.
> > > I can't use Frontpage for it is stupid about pagebreaks and
can print
> > > half lines of text on different pages. Forced to use Word.
If I start
> > > Word normally it will come up in landscape orientation. But when
> > > importing Sailwave output it always starts in portrait. It drives me
> > > nuts. I admit I know nothing about HTML editing. So what do all you
> > > Sailwave users do to get decent looking output that sailors can see
> > > from the back of the crowd? Clearly I'm missunderstanding
some aspect
> > > of the arcane ritual. Any help please? Thanks, Donald
> > >
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How about the "page-break-before: always" property in the CSS for p.race ?
http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/properties/print/pbbefore.htm
Seems to suggest :
"This property specifies the page-breaking behavior that should occur
before an element box and on what side of the page the content that
follows should resume on."

That seems to work on IE and Mozilla Firefox. (Well it works on the
print preview on each of them. Didn't actually try physically printing
the pages)

Or maybe "page-break-inside: avoid" on a <div> element around each
race to stop it splitting that race. Although that doesn't seem to
work. May have got the syntax wrong somewhere.

Steve

Hi John,

OK I understand. There are a few areas of Sailwave that need a major
overhaul and publishing is one of them; I'll see what I can do to

hack it in

the short term.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

> From: Harvey, John [mailto:jpharvey@p…]
> Sent: 23 June 2004 14:57
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems
>
>
> I believe 2) is a problem and the header rows not appearing on
> subsequent sheets is a problem.
>
> The other thing that i find awkward is printing out a series and
> individual races (on seperate sheets to avoid a single
> race overflowing page boundaries), since
> if you combine it as one (as you would publishing to a web site)
> the individual races dont start on a new page (without
> some editing) so you end up publishing the series result and the
> printing it. Then publishing each race individually
> and printing it. This is slow, tedious and means you have to keep
> altering the publish options which is error prone.
>
> This is usefull for handicap events where people like to see the
> corrected times as well as their positions in each race.
>
> John
>
> From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@s…]
> Sent: 23 June 2004 14:48
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems
>
>
> Hi Donald et al,
>
> The original idea was to generate HTML and then get a web browser

to print

> it. As I understand it, the problem with this is twofold:-
>
> 1. Some browsers split the table rows in half at the bottom of a

page,

> making that row spread across two pages vertically and hence is
> unreadable.
> I've never seen a browser do this - it always splits the row at a

sensible

> place so the text itself is never split.
>
> 2. When using a large font (or a long series) the number of

columns can

> overflow a landscape sheet of paper horizontally - and browsers do not
> handle this.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Or is 1. more do to with the fact that the header rows are only
> available on
> the first page?
>
> Regards,
> Colin J
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> > From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@s…]
> > Sent: 23 June 2004 13:08
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems
> >
> >
> > Hi Colin: One chap already replied explaining what he does to print
> > from Frontpage. It seemed to be immensely tedious deleting rows

and so

> > on. So,I really have two questions. One is that output from Sailwave
> > seems to override the Word settings. I set up Word & the printer to
> > Landscape and Word remembers this for ordinary documents. But output
> > from Sailwave always comes up in Portrait orientation. Is it

Sailwave?

> > Secondly, the reason I use Word is that allows me to see page

breaks.

> > If I use a web editor printed output can have the top half of a

row of

> > characters on one page and the bottom half on another. OK, I could
> > slice the pages up with a knife and join them together. The chap who
> > kindly replied said that he temporarily deletes rows, prints,
> > undeletes those rows and deletes what he printed etc. - more or

less.

> > This is unbelieveably crude and time consuming. I have about 8

fleets

> > which run to three or four pages of printout for each fleet. I would
> > be up half the night getting results published. Maybe it is

something

> > we have to expect when we use Microsoft products! Or, more

likely, it

> > is me not understanding how web editors work. But I can find no
> > mechanism which will make what I see on the screen print on

paper when

> > using a web editor.
> > This has been my rant for several years now. But I still have no

idea

> > how other users deal with this problem.
> > A final problem. I have just set up Sailwave on a computer to go to
> > the Club. For practice I put last year's results on a floppy and
> > transferred them to a new folder on the new computer. Now, when

I try

> > to publish, Sailwave says that it can't find the floppy even though
> > the data is in a folder on the c: drive. I have to hit continue. Is
> > there something embedded doing this? Should I have just transferred
> > the .blw files rather than all the files generated by Sailwave

in that

> > Regatta folder?
> > Bye, Disturbed in Bedford
> >
> > > Hi Donald,
> > >
> > > Nice to hear from you again.
> > >
> > > We always print the results from the browser; presumably that
> > doesn't work
> > > for you - can you explain (again?) a little bit about why…
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Colin
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@s…]
> > > > Sent: 22 June 2004 03:28
> > > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [sailwave] Printing Problems
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Once a year I score a regatta and before hand I ask a similar
> > > > question. "How the heck do I get decent quality print from
> Sailwave?"
> > > > I set up the printer to landscape orientation. Set up Word to
> > > > Landscape and alter the margins to suit. I'm a Wordperfect

user but

> > > > while it will remember settings it wont import Sailwave
> output nicely.
> > > > I can't use Frontpage for it is stupid about pagebreaks and
> can print
> > > > half lines of text on different pages. Forced to use Word.
> If I start
> > > > Word normally it will come up in landscape orientation. But when
> > > > importing Sailwave output it always starts in portrait. It

drives me

> > > > nuts. I admit I know nothing about HTML editing. So what do

all you

> > > > Sailwave users do to get decent looking output that sailors

can see

> > > > from the back of the crowd? Clearly I'm missunderstanding
> some aspect
> > > > of the arcane ritual. Any help please? Thanks, Donald
> > > >
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Hi Steve,

Yes, I've been playing with those myself; get varying results too! What you
can't seem to do is break long table and get the browser to display the
headers again... But the whole CSS2 media thing is hard to read - or at
least I find it so...

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

···

-----Original Message-----
From: steven_atkinson [mailto:Steve.Atkinson@windswept.org.uk]
Sent: 23 June 2004 16:07
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems

How about the "page-break-before: always" property in the CSS for p.race ?
http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/properties/print/pbbefore.htm
Seems to suggest :
"This property specifies the page-breaking behavior that should occur
before an element box and on what side of the page the content that
follows should resume on."

That seems to work on IE and Mozilla Firefox. (Well it works on the
print preview on each of them. Didn't actually try physically printing
the pages)

Or maybe "page-break-inside: avoid" on a <div> element around each
race to stop it splitting that race. Although that doesn't seem to
work. May have got the syntax wrong somewhere.

Steve

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Jenkins" <colin@s…> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> OK I understand. There are a few areas of Sailwave that need a major
> overhaul and publishing is one of them; I'll see what I can do to
hack it in
> the short term.
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harvey, John [mailto:jpharvey@p…]
> > Sent: 23 June 2004 14:57
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems
> >
> >
> > I believe 2) is a problem and the header rows not appearing on
> > subsequent sheets is a problem.
> >
> > The other thing that i find awkward is printing out a series and
> > individual races (on seperate sheets to avoid a single
> > race overflowing page boundaries), since
> > if you combine it as one (as you would publishing to a web site)
> > the individual races dont start on a new page (without
> > some editing) so you end up publishing the series result and the
> > printing it. Then publishing each race individually
> > and printing it. This is slow, tedious and means you have to keep
> > altering the publish options which is error prone.
> >
> > This is usefull for handicap events where people like to see the
> > corrected times as well as their positions in each race.
> >
> > John
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@s…]
> > Sent: 23 June 2004 14:48
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems
> >
> >
> > Hi Donald et al,
> >
> > The original idea was to generate HTML and then get a web browser
to print
> > it. As I understand it, the problem with this is twofold:-
> >
> > 1. Some browsers split the table rows in half at the bottom of a
page,
> > making that row spread across two pages vertically and hence is
> > unreadable.
> > I've never seen a browser do this - it always splits the row at a
sensible
> > place so the text itself is never split.
> >
> > 2. When using a large font (or a long series) the number of
columns can
> > overflow a landscape sheet of paper horizontally - and browsers do not
> > handle this.
> >
> > Is that correct?
> >
> > Or is 1. more do to with the fact that the header rows are only
> > available on
> > the first page?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Colin J
> > www.sailwave.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@s…]
> > > Sent: 23 June 2004 13:08
> > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Colin: One chap already replied explaining what he does to print
> > > from Frontpage. It seemed to be immensely tedious deleting rows
and so
> > > on. So,I really have two questions. One is that output from Sailwave
> > > seems to override the Word settings. I set up Word & the printer to
> > > Landscape and Word remembers this for ordinary documents. But output
> > > from Sailwave always comes up in Portrait orientation. Is it
Sailwave?
> > > Secondly, the reason I use Word is that allows me to see page
breaks.
> > > If I use a web editor printed output can have the top half of a
row of
> > > characters on one page and the bottom half on another. OK, I could
> > > slice the pages up with a knife and join them together. The chap who
> > > kindly replied said that he temporarily deletes rows, prints,
> > > undeletes those rows and deletes what he printed etc. - more or
less.
> > > This is unbelieveably crude and time consuming. I have about 8
fleets
> > > which run to three or four pages of printout for each fleet. I would
> > > be up half the night getting results published. Maybe it is
something
> > > we have to expect when we use Microsoft products! Or, more
likely, it
> > > is me not understanding how web editors work. But I can find no
> > > mechanism which will make what I see on the screen print on
paper when
> > > using a web editor.
> > > This has been my rant for several years now. But I still have no
idea
> > > how other users deal with this problem.
> > > A final problem. I have just set up Sailwave on a computer to go to
> > > the Club. For practice I put last year's results on a floppy and
> > > transferred them to a new folder on the new computer. Now, when
I try
> > > to publish, Sailwave says that it can't find the floppy even though
> > > the data is in a folder on the c: drive. I have to hit continue. Is
> > > there something embedded doing this? Should I have just transferred
> > > the .blw files rather than all the files generated by Sailwave
in that
> > > Regatta folder?
> > > Bye, Disturbed in Bedford
> > >
> > > — In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Jenkins" <colin@s…> wrote:
> > > > Hi Donald,
> > > >
> > > > Nice to hear from you again.
> > > >
> > > > We always print the results from the browser; presumably that
> > > doesn't work
> > > > for you - can you explain (again?) a little bit about why…
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Colin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@s…]
> > > > > Sent: 22 June 2004 03:28
> > > > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [sailwave] Printing Problems
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Once a year I score a regatta and before hand I ask a similar
> > > > > question. "How the heck do I get decent quality print from
> > Sailwave?"
> > > > > I set up the printer to landscape orientation. Set up Word to
> > > > > Landscape and alter the margins to suit. I'm a Wordperfect
user but
> > > > > while it will remember settings it wont import Sailwave
> > output nicely.
> > > > > I can't use Frontpage for it is stupid about pagebreaks and
> > can print
> > > > > half lines of text on different pages. Forced to use Word.
> > If I start
> > > > > Word normally it will come up in landscape orientation. But when
> > > > > importing Sailwave output it always starts in portrait. It
drives me
> > > > > nuts. I admit I know nothing about HTML editing. So what do
all you
> > > > > Sailwave users do to get decent looking output that sailors
can see
> > > > > from the back of the crowd? Clearly I'm missunderstanding
> > some aspect
> > > > > of the arcane ritual. Any help please? Thanks, Donald
> > > > >
> > > > >
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