[sailwave] Re: Printing Problems

Sounds to me like there should be an optiion to export to excel or
even csv format. I would normally save in html and then open the html
document from excel.

Regards
Terry

Sent: 23/06/04 03:57:20 PM
To: "sailwave@yahoogroups.com" <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems

Hi Colin: Problem 1. Which browsers don't? I use a font adjusted to
make sure that all columns fit in the available width. Mr. Harvey
points out another problem in that Sailwave prints headers and

footers

without any control over them. You remember a long time ago you and

I

had a lot of correspondence about formatting output and the problems
of column headers and big fleets - you lose track of columns as you
view the last page of printout which could be several feet below the
top of the table! Sure I can insert column headers and format on the
fly but I don't have time for all of that. Six or so races X 6 or 7
fleets, committee boats wont radio in results after each race, so I
end up with a huge data entry problem. Because it is a youth regatta
we cant send competitors to the bar to wait as is usual! I don't

need

to waste time playing with formatting during the event I want to set
it up beforehand. I want to click on Publish and lo and behold I get
formatted output with x number of competitors per paper page with a
column header preferably on each page. Do users not pin up results

for

people on the deck of their Clubhouses for sailors to see? If they

do

how do they do it professionally and quickly?
Do I sound a tad grumpy? Well, yes because I blew out a mainsail on
Sunday and I've just ordered a new one for the old is beyond
redemption. So I got my first ever DFL in a race. You bet I'm

grumpy.

Bye, Donald

Hi Donald et al,

The original idea was to generate HTML and then get a web browser

to

print

it. As I understand it, the problem with this is twofold:-

1. Some browsers split the table rows in half at the bottom of a

page,

making that row spread across two pages vertically and hence is

unreadable.

I've never seen a browser do this - it always splits the row at a

sensible

place so the text itself is never split.

2. When using a large font (or a long series) the number of

columns can

overflow a landscape sheet of paper horizontally - and browsers do

not

handle this.

Is that correct?

Or is 1. more do to with the fact that the header rows are only

available on

the first page?

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

> From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@s…]
> Sent: 23 June 2004 13:08
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Re: Printing Problems
>
>
> Hi Colin: One chap already replied explaining what he does to

print

> from Frontpage. It seemed to be immensely tedious deleting rows

and so

> on. So,I really have two questions. One is that output from

Sailwave

> seems to override the Word settings. I set up Word & the printer

to

> Landscape and Word remembers this for ordinary documents. But

output

> from Sailwave always comes up in Portrait orientation. Is it

Sailwave?

> Secondly, the reason I use Word is that allows me to see page

breaks.

> If I use a web editor printed output can have the top half of a

row of

> characters on one page and the bottom half on another. OK, I

could

> slice the pages up with a knife and join them together. The chap

who

> kindly replied said that he temporarily deletes rows, prints,
> undeletes those rows and deletes what he printed etc. - more or

less.

> This is unbelieveably crude and time consuming. I have about 8

fleets

> which run to three or four pages of printout for each fleet. I

would

> be up half the night getting results published. Maybe it is

something

> we have to expect when we use Microsoft products! Or, more

likely, it

> is me not understanding how web editors work. But I can find no
> mechanism which will make what I see on the screen print on

paper when

> using a web editor.
> This has been my rant for several years now. But I still have no

idea

> how other users deal with this problem.
> A final problem. I have just set up Sailwave on a computer to go

to

> the Club. For practice I put last year's results on a floppy and
> transferred them to a new folder on the new computer. Now, when

I try

> to publish, Sailwave says that it can't find the floppy even

though

> the data is in a folder on the c: drive. I have to hit continue.

Is

> there something embedded doing this? Should I have just

transferred

> the .blw files rather than all the files generated by Sailwave

in that

> Regatta folder?
> Bye, Disturbed in Bedford
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Jenkins" <colin@s...>

wrote:

> > Hi Donald,
> >
> > Nice to hear from you again.
> >
> > We always print the results from the browser; presumably that
> doesn't work
> > for you - can you explain (again?) a little bit about why…
> >
> > Regards,
> > Colin
> >
> >
> > > From: longcove2002 [mailto:Donald.Wyllie@s…]
> > > Sent: 22 June 2004 03:28
> > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [sailwave] Printing Problems
> > >
> > >
> > > Once a year I score a regatta and before hand I ask a

similar

> > > question. "How the heck do I get decent quality print from

Sailwave?"

> > > I set up the printer to landscape orientation. Set up Word

to

> > > Landscape and alter the margins to suit. I'm a Wordperfect

user but

> > > while it will remember settings it wont import Sailwave

output

nicely.

> > > I can't use Frontpage for it is stupid about pagebreaks and

can print

> > > half lines of text on different pages. Forced to use Word.

If

I start

> > > Word normally it will come up in landscape orientation. But

when

> > > importing Sailwave output it always starts in portrait. It

drives me

> > > nuts. I admit I know nothing about HTML editing. So what do

all you

> > > Sailwave users do to get decent looking output that sailors

can see

> > > from the back of the crowd? Clearly I'm missunderstanding

some

aspect

> > > of the arcane ritual. Any help please? Thanks, Donald
> > >
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